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The day's doings at Dolphins camp

I've had several readers and twitter followers ask me about the Dolphins lack of tackling acumen in the preseason opener and, as they saw the Bengals run an Oklahoma drill on the premier episode of Hard Knocks, they asked me why the Dolphins aren't doing that.

It's a fair question because the Dolphins know they struggled tackling the ballcarrier in the preseason opener.

"I thought the tackling was poor, very bad," defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle said Wednesday. "But it's not atypical of a lot of preseason games that I've been involved in for many, many years. I seem to recall many games where we've come right back and talked aobut how poor the tackling was."

The tackling was so bad against Dallas, the Dolphins yielded 170 rushing yards and five yards per carry. According to Coyle, 93 of those rushing yards came after a first opportunity to make a tackle failed.

"If we had made the tackle after the initial contact, we would have had a heck of a game," Coyle said. "But we didn't so I'm not making excuses."

Coyle believes the tackling issue are understandable early in the preseason.

"We've only had one true tackling experience and that was in the scrimmage the week before," he said. "So all of a sudden the speed of the game increases, the angles change a little bit and the backs are running harder than they do in practice when you're tagging them off. So we've got to be better and worked hard this week both days in practice, I don't know if you guys noticed, at doing a number of tackling drills. So during the course of the preseason I think you'll see the tackling improve. I do believe that's something we need to improve and hopefully we'll be much better at it this week."

As to the Oklahoma drill that the Bengals and other teams use, Coyle is familiar with it because he came from Cincy before joining the Dolphins.

"The Oklahoma drill is a one-shot deal," he said. "I was somewhere where it was a one-shot deal. We did it the first day of camp and everybody got one shot at it and we didn't do it again until the next training camp. There's not many teams that are going to feature that kind of contact at training camp.

"Now if it continues to be a problem, we're going to have to address it if it continues to be a problem but I don't believe it'll be a problem for us."

On to today's practice:

The Dolphins got great news in that WR Mike Wallace returned to full work for the first time since straining a groin nearly two weeks ago.

Wallace's presence was felt as Ryan Tannehill connected with the speedy receiver on a 40-yard bomb over the top of the defense and against Nolan Carroll's one-on-one coverage. The play was a TD.

One thing: I'm not sure I'd blame Carroll exclusively on the play. He had zero safety help over the top. Not a good look for the deep secondary.

Today was a much, much, much better day for Tannehill following his four-INT day on Tuesday. He only threw one interception -- to Dimitri Patterson -- and had three TD passes. So good recovery by the starting QB.

TE Michael Egnew had a very good practice. He caught three TD passes from various QBs and didn't have a drop. All his TDs were from inside the 10-yard line, suggesting a little toughness in a tight area.

Carroll, who was beaten for the deep TD, recovered with an interception of QB Pat Devlin. It was Devlin's first full practice since being knocked out of Sunday preseason opener. It wasn't necessarily a good day for him because he threw two interceptions -- to Carroll and Chris Clemons.

Practice was punctuated by a minor skirmish between the starting OL and second-team DL. Richie Incongnito and Mike Pouncey obviously had a disagreement with defensive tackle Tracy Roberts and although punches were thrown, no one seemed to be the worse for wear after the 30-second scrum.

Other highlights, lowlights, observations:

***Brian Hartline dropped two passes.

***Jared Odrick and Olivier Vernon, held out against Dallas, practiced and seemed to have no issues. They should play vs. Jacksonville on Friday.

***Lamar Miller, who left practice with an ankle injury of some sort, was back today with his right ankle heavily taped. He started working and stopped midway through and was limping noticeably. Then he returned to practice for a couple of periods and left again near the end.

When it came time for the final team drill period, Daniel Thomas took the work in Miller's place.

***Rookie Dallas Thomas, who played at left tackle in the preseason opener, is over at right tackle now. And he's still struggling. Cameron Wake abused him on one pass rush situation that made it seem as if no one was blocking Wake. Coach Joe Philbin said Thomas's problem versus the Cowboys is that the opposing DE continually got better hand position on him and thus had better leverage against Thomas. That usually translates to a lineman getting knocked back on his posterior as Thomas was.

***Jorvorskie Lane, fighting for a roster spot, did not practice today with an unreported leg injury. It doesn't seem serious but he's looked in a tight competition for a roster spot so he really cannot afford to miss much time  ... John Jerry continues to rehab his knee on the side. He's in the third week of what is expected to be a four-week issue. One thing I'll say, he looks big.  

[Update: TE Kyle Miller, who caught a TD pass vs. Dallas Sunday night, was not at practice today because he has an ankle injury. It is not considered serious but he isn't playing at Jacksonville.]

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MIT,
I'm not negative on the team.
Our front 7 on D is great.
Our passing game will be fine IF we are in games and can run a balanced attack.
Our running game will be fine whether Miller/Thomas/Gilligan/Gray.

But CB and LT frighten me because if CB breaks down than we have to pass every play and that means we need more from the LT not less.

The passing, the running, and the blocking all stink. The entire offence stinks.

On a totally unrelated note....

I LOVED the FINS uniforms....great color....not boring @ all....

Wallace will look like a light blue blur when he is catching TD passes from whomever the QB is....

I noticed that too Mark. Not sure if it's shtick or he really just likes defending athletes.

I have the perfect plan for training Tannehill to make his arm, stronger, faster, and more accurate. And no it does not solely include throwing footballs. Now to another subject, how is it that these players get hurt so much in practice? What? Do they not workout and stay fairly in shape during the off season? Do they not stretch and warm-up first? Are they weak dicks? Not enough protein in their diets? Next subject, is there a plan to find another Left Tackle via trade in case Martin keeps getting beat?

ETF, Patterson is running with teh first teamers. he is the starting CB. Didn't catch what mando siad but that was misinformed if he did say that. With jamar Taylore being set back through injury, Patterson is a lock to START!

Taylor was actually rated a first rounder and personally i went on record as saying he was my favourite CB before the draft - yes even more than Milliner. He fell because of some liver condition that is controlled through medication. Davis was rated just about where he went. And you are right about him, level of college competition is his major problem and he needs a little time. but the physical talent is there and he is one of those guys who lives for the pick and hates playing it safe. i like that in a CB. he will be a starter down the road or at worst a top nickel back in this league. i also had him rated top 5 for CBs in this draft.

All arrows point to Grimes being 100% repaired. Of course injuries can always happen to anyone at any time though so let's see how that plays out ...

Kris I wish I could say the same. My only problem is the powder blue. Looks too much like the Panthers old colors and I wish it were darker. But in the end if they win who cares.

Craig M....

not sure how you didn't get AWSOME when talking about Miller...

He and Tanne messed up an exchange....that is what pre-season is for....I would much rather see CORRECTABLE mistakes like that (repetition under GAME CONDITIONS)....

then to have my my #@ 8raft pick throw the ball behind recievers CONSISTENTLY.....

those passes should be 2nd nature...and look like long hand-offs....none of them were more than 7 yards from the LOS...which was also dissapointing....

ETF, I know you aren't negative on the team. I think you are actually prettty fair and voice your concerns in a rational and logical manner.

I laugh with your athletic and Armando conspiracy theories. I find them entertaining.

Phins78....

I thout the UNIs were one of the few bright spots of the game....and I don't justy mean because of the color....

I am not denying Tannehill lacks accuracy so far in his career, I'm hoping he can get better.

But people are crazy about it now to the point that any ball not thrown into the receivers hands makes people go ape s*&t.

The other night in the game, I don't remember what play it was, but Tanny threw a little behind the receiver. Everyone is counting that as a bad throw when in reality it was a GREAT throw. Had he not underthrown the receiver the safety was waiting on the route. The cb was a step to the side and behind but the safety was coming over the top. Every other receiver was covered. Had they completed the pass it would have only gone for 7 or so yards but it would have been better than just throwing it away.

Had he placed the ball in the receivers hands it probably would have been picked off. Sometimes there's a reason for a throws location, it's not always that the qb messed up.

I'm not saying Tanny doesn't have accuracy issues. I'm saying because of that he gets crushed by people even when he's making the right throw.

Hoping they will grow on me Kris

Have to get to a job site gents, have a great day.

I disagree with Coyle. U play like you practice. No tackling in practice, no tackling in the game. That "play like you practice" was coined many, many yrs ago and is still valuable today. The Dolphins practice like a flag football team, and meanwhile ?????
I didnt notice Dallas having tackling problems,,,,

Yet, Tannehill's completion % is not that bad. Think that critque is a little overblown. He needs to be more consistent though but that is not exactly unusual for someone in the early part of his career

Phins78....

I am not asking EVERY pass Tanne throw be Brady or Rodgers like....heck...i'm not even asking him to throw it on the money like RG3....

but....

I just want the see the OCCASIONAL bad pass...ass opposed to the RARE money pass....to this point...I don't think Tanne gets any "benifit of the doubt" when it comes to ball placement....and we have seen a QB with LASER-like arm strength...and Cluster bomb like accuracy....

his name will not be mentioned....

Pray for new ownership.

Mark....

Tanne was ranked 23rd in completion %...

c'mon man....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct

2nd in yards per attempt....

So not only are we not getting chunch yardage....he is missing the dinks and dunks....

22nd....same link....

If Tanny keeps stinkin it up he'll get booed off the field just like Henne did. Philbin better have a very short leash on him.

Mark...and Phins 78...

I'm not saying dump Tanne...after all...he was drafted @#8....

I'm saying there IS cause for concern....and he should EARN that starter job thru performance....not coast on draft postion...

Tannehill was 29th in QBR. YIKES!

Koa Misi is sooooooo non exsistent what a waste of a draft pick.. SMh

We are watching his counter parts tear up the league....

I don't think it's to much to ask for some consitency from a 1st RD QB taken @ # 8....

his contemporaries are racking up play-off games....

Nobody is saying lets wait 3 season's to evaluate

Luck
3
Wilson

Its only when you stink up the joit do we say let's wait 3 full NFL seasons....

I hear Henne debate all over again.....

I guess I am talking to myself....

L.Miller has the Potential to be the Best RB in Miami Dolphin History.

Dashi calm down with your love of Lamar Miller dude, lets just hope he can stay healthy for a year.. To me he's like a Reggie Bush clone except he doesnt try to juke ppl, as far as breaking tackles can he??

Here....

i'll be positive....

Tanne was top 15 in the league...he ONLY threw 13 INTs....

we can hang our hat on that right....not a turn-over machine....

Dahi...

I don't disagree with that statement....

kid look phenomenal....

Tannehill's accuracy,

I don't know the exact number but didn't the Dolphins have somewhere's in the top 3 in drops last season?

Tannehill definitely makes errant throws but look who he was throwing to last season. If he doesn't put the ball on the money where only the receiver can make the catch on many throws then its a bad pass because he has a lot smaller window to throw into. The speed added on offense with Mike Wallace and Dustin Keller should make a difference because they get seperation, particularly Keller who can beat LBs one on one where Fasano couldn't consistently. Adding a quality 3rd WR in Gibson also should open more passing windows. Im not saying I expect a huge leap but anything less then 60 percent would show all you Tannehill haters, doubters and pessimist that it's him and not just his lack of weapons around him.

I fully believe Tannehill has a very good season. I don't know exactly how many TDs vs INTs but fully expect over 60 percent completion rate and him doing his part. Will he struggle at times? Absolutely, but again he will still have a good season if the Oline gives him a chance.

Kris, he was 58.3% 60% is considered good. Not that far off considering all the circumstances, is it not?

My biggest conceern with him is exeecution in the red zone. We need more TDs. That 58% for a rookie and his level of inexperience doesn't concern me in the least and I expect it to increase this year by a fair bit.

BY the way, Luck was at 54% which I think is extremely bizarre

yeah Mark....

but Luck's low percentage is OFFSET by his YARDAGE total.....

Luck...7th in YARDS....

Tanne 20th....

Luck passed for more than 1,080 yards more than Tanne....

those extra THOUSAND yards = 4 more wins...and a playoff birth...

Kris, i would be careful in comparing Tannehill to his contemporaries. RG3, kaep, Wilson all depend on the read option. I'm weary of this offense. Somewhere there is a D co ordinator who has probably already solved it like someone solved the wildcat. Then what?

Andrew Luck - sure he's shown more than Tannehill but did compare to Luck favourably in some areas like QBR and comp %. I understand the concern but coming to any conclusions right now is futile and meaningless. The story has yet to be written.

holy crap SIT MILLER THE REST OF PRESEASON TO MAKE SURE HIS ANKLE IS OK!!!!!

Miller full time means 11-5.

Thomas means 5-11.

It's that simple.

Kris, yes for sure the yardage total between Luck and Tannehill was massive but like any other subjective arguments, a few things have to be considered.

1. Luck was considered the best and most polished Qb prospect since Elway. yes, even more than Peyton Manning.

2. Luck had a dynamic arsenal of weapons including Wayne (who caught like 50,000 poasses last year) and impressive rookies Hilton, Fleener, and Allen. Tannehill had hartline, Bess, and Fasano.

All things being equal I still would expect Luck to have more yards than Tannehill but I suspect that variance would be significantly reduced.

Mark...

I agree....the story is YET to be written....i'm just saying....many times the IT factor show up quit early (and often) to quote another blogger....

Tanne is SMART...and he doesn't make the same mistake twice (ala Henne)...so there is reason to be optomistic...

but I am cautiously optimistic....

Brian, there is no way they win 5 with D Thomas. Just isnt possible.

Luck makes the players around him better.

Tannehill makes the players around him worse.

Mark....

All i'm saying is this....

like the post @ 10:57.....

I don't want to hear this guy is better because of X Y and Z....

and our gut is worse because he doesn't have X Y and Z...

just make it happen....

Kris, cautiously optimisticis fair and I feel the same. I don't ever expect him to be an MVP candidate but I don't think he needs to be either. Like you, I like that he's smart and keeps the mistakes down and at the same time, i see the room for improvement both organically and through improvements to the supporting cast.

Tannehill will be alright.

Wait until the Season to Evaluate.

You will be pleasantly surprised with how the Offense will be more wide open this season.

Again, McNutt ran the Slant Wrong. The Break was Bad and the Safety and CB read him perfectly. If that was Hartline the Ball would've been Perfect.

Now it is the Preseason. Maybe in the Regular Season T-Hill Will Tuck it and Run. Get a first down with his legs. He should be able to gain at least 500yds and 5 TDs Rushing this Season.

He is Built Better to Run than any of the QBs in his Draft. 6'4" 230 4.5-4.6 Speed. Not A lot of People in the Secondary built like that. T-Hill could probably play TE or WR in the NFL. He can even catch. Not like Tebow.

To me Tannehill should be judged by his TD-INT Total.

And if his Completion Pct is Over 60 by the end of the Season.

Matt Moore isn't the answer though.

If R.Tannehill sucks bring in Devlin by Week 8. And Next Season draft 1 High, 1st or 2nd Rd. (S.Morris) and have an Open Competition Next Season. You can even bring J.Manziel as a 6th Rder.

But for now we have to ride with T-Hill until he show that he isn't it. And to me he has it.

Luck went to a 1-5 team (like it or not)....

and 3 went to a 4-12 team....neither tam was predicted to do much....

but with ONE SHINEY NEW "IT" Factor....they were playing in January....

I don't know why we can't hold Tanne to the same standard....

I don't know if that post at 10:57 is all that true. hartline and bess both had their best years with tannehill as a rookie. just so happens their ceilings aren't incredibly high.

I also think a QB is single greatest factor to the success of an offense and even to a team. However the supporting cast does definitely help. I don't think Luck could've done the same work with our cast for example. Might've lost one more game at least.

I don't know why we can't hold Tanne to the same standard....
Posted by: Kris | August 08, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Because the homers are bloated with kool aid. The same guys that loved Chad Henne.

lol

Kris, we can't because they aren't the same player .. Luck is just flat out better, has the higher ceiling.

And donb't remind me of Indy finishing last - that was a total hoax. Their owner is one slimy fukkkker

One thing I can tell you, we are going to be much better in the Red Zone this Year. Even Egnew will contribute(he pretty big).

I will turn In my Dashi Card if L.Miller Sucks.

L.Miller is not like Reggie Bush.

R.Bush can only dream about being half the RB L.Miller is.

L.Miller is Faster than Bush.

L.Miller is a Better Runner than Bush.

L.Miller is like if A.Foster had 4.3 Speed.

L.Miller doesn't Fumble.

Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
How long has this Dolphins franchise wasted time "developing" a quarterback because "he has potential," but doesn't produce enough
.

Mark....

Here is to Tanne getting better....I hope he does...its in the best interest of all interested parties.....

but if he (Tanne) is so-so.....I hope Philbin isn't scared to go to the bullpen....

Another thing I can tell you, Coconutt hands will be cut and none of the other backup receivers we have has earned that 4th spot. We'll see.

Omar Kelly is a moron. Tannehill is the first QB the Dolphins have drafted in the 1st round in 30 years and the first guy with any potential. May be able to make a small case for Henne but that would be weak. 2nd round QBs are never a great bet. So the answer is one year with Tannehill.

Fukkkin coconut ...

then to have my my #@ 8raft pick throw the ball behind recievers CONSISTENTLY.....

those passes should be 2nd nature...and look like long hand-offs....none of them were more than 7 yards from the LOS...which was also dissapointing....

Posted by: Kris | August 08, 2013 at 09:56 AM

If you look at the replay of the missed throw to McNutt that was shown the following day on NFL network, it was clear that it was a miscommunication. McNutt misread the D and was running into two defenders. Tannehill expected McNutt to button hook on the route.
Had McNutt done so, Tannehill would've thrown him open.

See, goal line work depends strictly on the QB.

Agree Kris and if Tannehill doesn't make any marked improvement then the team won't waste any time next year. Ross didn't spend $200M on salaries to fiddle around.

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