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Dion Jordan's debut vs. Cleveland

The question about Dion Jordan much of this preseason was not how he'd be used against the Cleveland Browns in the rookie's NFL debut but, indeed, whether he'd be used at all based on his uncertain injury status.

That question has been answered. Jordan, nursing a tender shoulder much of the preseason, is playing in the Dolphins regular-season opener.

So now we want to know how much. And here are some answers based on interviews with players and coaches.

Expect Jordan on some special teams and on the field with the defense on some passing downs.

None of this is a surprise but what seems uncommon is the Dolphins may use Jordan in something similar to the New York Giants NASCAR pass-rush grouping of years past. Although Jordan is the backup to Olivier Vernon and plays the same position as both Vernon and Cameron Wake, it is possible the Dolphins want to use the pass-rush skills of all three players.

Together.

In the same pass-rush package.

So the Dolphins could include Jordan, Wake and Vernon -- three defensive ends considered Miami's best pass-rushers -- on the field and rushing the passer at the same time.

I'm told there might even be moments when the Dolphins have four defensive end types chasing Cleveland quarterback Brandon Weeden because linebacker and former defensive end Koa Misi might get in on the act as well.

How exactly the Dolphins would deploy this group of rushers has yet to be seen in 2013 -- not in practices open to the media or fans, not in training camp, not in preseason games -- so I cannot account for how much or little this might be used nor can I account for how the Dolphins would line up. (And even if I had seen it, I wouldn't report it anyway).

If the Dolphins go forward with this plan, it is good news at least on its face. There's been much speculation and hand wringing among fans whether the Miami coaching staff could find a way to maximize its talent at defensive end.

This is also good news because this grouping suggests a better pass rush.

But there are other ramifications because it likely means one of the down linemen will not be playing in a familiar four-point stance. It suggests someone will have to rush from a two-point stance (standing up).

The idea also may mean the Dolphins sacrifice pass rush up the middle for more pressure from the edge. 

Defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle hinted earlier in camp that if Jordan was physically ready to play, there would be a package to include him in the game plan. He doubled down on that this week.

"We haven’t made any final decisions yet," Coyle said on Monday. "Today he got a good number of reps in practice, so we are excited about that. At the end of the week, we’ll really feel better able to judge exactly where he’s at, but he’s going to have a significant role in the game plan this week, I can guarantee you that."

Jordan's role on defense is expected to be limited almost exclusively to passing situations while his gifts on special teams seem suited for kickoff coverage and perhaps punt return and field goal block situations.

Jordan is quick enough and fast enough to run down on kickoffs. He's long and athletic enough to possibly block a field goal. He's strong enough to block on punt returns. Just saying.

Jordan worked on the kickoffs team early in camp and coach Joe Philbin has defended the idea of having valuable players -- including the first-round draft pick -- on special teams.

"We'll have starters on special teams," Philbin said Wednesday.

"It’s a critical play in football, the coverage, we’re going to use whoever we feel is going to be the best to help us pin the opponent down," Philbin said Monday. "Whoever that may be."

When he was asked about Jordan specifically on special teams this week, Philbin was coy about it but couldn't bring himself to dismiss the idea because, well, the guy's on teams and this coach doesn't lie.

 “We think we have a chance to be a very, very good special teams unit," Philbin said. "We want to utilize our personnel in the best way possible. If he is on one of those teams, then we’ve come to the conclusion that is going to help that particular phase of special teams." 

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Did anyone see when the Ravens were coming out of the tunnel last night there was a ref. patting the linemen down......what was that about? Anyone know?

Al, I believe the ref accused the lineman of stealing his gum and wouldn't take his word regarding his denial.

Allegedly, Spo is related to Parcells is some way. That is how he got the Job. Reason, Parcell decided to quit before firing Spo.

Posted by: Dashi | September 06, 2013 at 01:44 PM

His Bro-in-Law. By the way if Parcells sister looks anything like him I give Sparano a life long pass because the man is a saint!

Cleveland Brown 2 Miami Dolphins 0

Browns win on a safety sack. This will be the most pathetic game of the entire 2013 NFL season.

This will be the first time in Fin history our defense shuts out the opponent and we still lose the game.

Just saying....................................

Al,

I noticed that too and was wondering what it was about.

Mark, I didnt say I was betting the Bills to make the playoffs. But I do think they'll be a good bet in a lot of their games to cover underdog spreads.

Sparano's wife is actually an attractive woman...

this will be a low scoring snoozefest in cleveland

Dashi,

The key to the Canes Vs. Gators will be our front-7 Vs. their OL/Run game, period! They will look to pound us with the RB's opening it up a little for Driskel. There not the NASCAR Gators anymore, the U can run with them and out run them at the skill Positions. If we keep the turn overs down we should win this game.

Mark if that was the gators then I could buy that reasoning.......lol

Peyton Manning 7tds lastnight. City of Miami will throw ticker tape parade if Tannehil has 7tds by game 8.

Just Saying........................................

Truth, Dashi

Story this morning on local radio was about the great hands on Fr. WR Coley. Had Uncle Luke as guest on 560 and he said he watched Coley plenty (Luke's become a sort of Godfather to Miami inner City Football) and don't expect him to drop 2 sure TD's in same game again.

Uhm that isn't waht u said before Seneca Falls Mike, you said you would bet them to make the playoffs.

Sure hope the Tanne-lovers have UPGRADED their Tanne-cuses after watching Manning lastnight.

Just saying....................................

Crappy Day...

Agreed to take the wife and daughter to a 1 year old's birthday party that starte @ 10:30 AM a Chic-fil-a...

Long story short...

we went to the wrng resturant...and I locked the keys in my car...just getting back to work now...

took 4 Proffesional locksmiths...and 1 GOOD SAMARITAN off duty fireman/EMT to get into my car...

While I feel secure that my particular car ability to NOT be stolen....it was very frustrating waiting for 2 hours 2.5 hours for your car to be broken into...

Carlos was the GOOD SAMARITAN....

SHOUT OUT to him...and all those that asked if they could assist....

OK everyone, YG is putting ona clown show so we can all notice him. Someone please acknowledge the little clown and rebut him ...

ah, yeah, forget it, I agree. Carry on clown.

Sparano's wife is actually an attractive woman...

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | September 06, 2013 at 02:11 PM

I've never seen her just going on a hunch given She's the Tuna's sister.

Dolphins D pitches shutout against Browns, still lose 2-0 on Tanne-cuses sack safety.

Just saying.................................

Uhm that isn't waht u said before Seneca Falls Mike, you said you would bet them to make the playoffs.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | September 06, 2013 at 02:19 PM

Uhhh....Nope, go read it again. And if you still dont understand try a reading comprehension class.

Crappy Day...
Agreed to take the wife and daughter to a 1 year old's birthday party that starte @ 10:30 AM a Chic-fil-a...

Long story short...
we went to the wrng resturant...and I locked the keys in my car...just getting back to work now...
took 4 Proffesional locksmiths...and 1 GOOD SAMARITAN off duty fireman/EMT to get into my car...

While I feel secure that my particular car ability to NOT be stolen....it was very frustrating waiting for 2 hours 2.5 hours for your car to be broken into...
Carlos was the GOOD SAMARITAN....
SHOUT OUT to him...and all those that asked if they could assist....

Posted by: Kris | September 06, 2013 at 02:19 PM


First of all, if they read this blog, no one would have offered top assist you.

Secondly, seems powers above sending message of what a crappy guy you are.

3rdly, it all happened to the right a-hole. ROTFLMAO...

Just saying.....................................

Fin4life...

Thanks for sapring my feelings...and the way you and Mark describe it...I may NEVER want to read the book...the movie was A+ in my theartrical ignorance...

As far as Ed Reed goes...

the only rumblings I heard about him was that he had Brett Farve disease...you know...a DIVA...

he pretty much threatened to retire EVERY YEAR he was on the team...and I believe he held out a few times.. so perhaps that ticked of Harbaugh...especially if he did it whenHarbaugh was just hired...a pizzing contest perhaps...that Harbaugh never forgave him for...

All rumors and speculation on my part...the Ravens are pretty good at keeping their dirty laundry in house...

I went to a Ravens practice a few years back...and to be honest...

While Ray Lewis was FIRST in all team drills....

It was ED REED who had the sense of showmanship....and really kept trying to engage the crowd....

after all...watching practice is pretty boring...

They should've fired Ireland instead of Sparano.

Krissy Kry,

The entire world has a crappy day each time you awaken in the mornings. Change or die jerk. LOL...

YG how about until you wait until AFTER the game to bash the team? If they do as bad as you want them to you will have plenty to talk about.

Mark,

White looked a little better running the read-option. Take into account it was against 3rd string scrubs, but he completed some passes. None over 20 yds, but hey, he never got knocked out of the game.

The reporters here (who actually watched practices) said White was a good athlete, could run the ball well, but couldn't throw worth a lick. But you're right, he would have fared better under the read-option because it gives the QB some extra time to read the defense and usually get a step on them.

The other thing I've noticed Kyle Shanahan can do (and this isn't his father because he did the same when he was OC at Houston) is get his receivers open. The guy comes up with great formations so that a guy WILL be open almost every play. QB just has to find him. Perfect for a guy like Pat White. Not sure Miami's OC's were as innovative as that to help the QB.

Honestly, that's the biggest thing that can help Tannehill. Sherman needs to get receivers open for him. If Wallace lines up in the same place every play (vs. Hayden), then I'm blaming Sherman more than the offense if we don't score.

LISTEN WELL PEOPLE - SCHEMES WILL FOOTBALL GAMES. See Peyton last night.

Mark my backup is Jason Campbell, I mean seriously! No 3rd starter RB either, a bunch of backups after Rice and Sproles. Doh!

fin4life, Lets hope not, because the lollipops he dropped was pathetic, at least he's a great route runner unlike Dorsett sometimes I wonder where that kid head is.

Dont be surprised if C.J.Spiller leads the Bills to a playoff spot

OK, u didn't say you would bet ont his to happen but if you aren't betting on it or recommending it then who cares? It's like saying, don't be surprised if the Dow Jones goes to 16,500 by year end. I'm not buying any stock .. but don't be surprised. If there isn't any validation or enforecement behind it then who cares???

And by the way, I would be extremely surprised.

WHY GEE...

keep them coming until you feel better about yourself...

i'm reading...

you have my attention...

ok baby bear....

Nemo,

These jerks in here don't deserve a good team to root for. As much as I love the Fins, it wouldn't bother me at all if they went 0-16, just to know the jerk idiots here are sad.

I saw the Fins win 2 straight sb's, with the '72 sb win still being immortal til today. Those Fins gave me something to last a lifetime.

Never thought I would ever see the day it wouldn't bother me to see the fins lose. Lo and behold, jerks here have changed everything. Everyone here are fans of the same team, but circle jerkers here have their own agenda, and haven't a clue we're all supposed to be fans of the same team.

That's as close as it comes to unforgivable. Socalled fans like this do not deserve a great team to root for. Just saying..........................

Nemo,

Being native Miamian, right now, it's all about:

LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I hope none of these idiot jerks are Heat fans..................

Al in Ft. Meyers,

Just read an article stating the pat down of random players as they leave the locker room happens at all games...

The refs are checking their uniforms for any foreign substance that may make it difficult to tackle a player...silicon or grease, for instance.

This according to Mike Pereira.

Al,

I noticed that too and was wondering what it was about.

Posted by: The Signal | September 06, 2013 at 02:09 PM

Refs do this to Lineman before every game seems for a long time Line players used adhesives (slippery substances) on their Jerseys to make it harder to hold ect..

I know this only because back in the Fins JJ ERA we had a Monday Night game Vs. the Lions at home were we had an OL forced back into the locker room during a game after a Lions DL complained about some substance on his Jersey.

Funny side note on resent HOF inductee Larry Allen.

I saw an interview with Nate Newton were he described some things Lineman did to gain advantages and he said Larry Allen would chew and swallow chewing tobacco before games which caused him to have some horrific wet gas during games which he'd wipe on his hands approaching the line before plays in full view (smearing on opponents face masks) or cut loose when in his stance which Newton described as the grosses thing by far he ever saw another player do.

Dang Dimitri is Questionable this week. He is good, but man he stays injured

Darkoak, you want Big Ben? Willing to do this in the name of Sportsmanship. Your team doesn't seem fair...

YG talking smack at the Dolphins while none of us care because we are mean to him. Hahaha, wow ....

Canadiens talking football? Laughable. Canadiens talking Miami football? Absurd!! LMAO!!!

YG, u saw them win the 72 super bowl ... wasn't it the same day as your 40th birtday?


Refs do this to Lineman before every game seems for a long time Line players used adhesives (slippery substances) on their Jerseys to make it harder to hold ect..


Posted by: fin4life | September 06, 2013 at 02:41 PM

Thanks F4L,

Just read an article about it right before you posted.

Haha, absurd that there are two "Canadiens" on the Miami Dolphins... LMAO, LMFAO!!! YOLO! SMH!!!

BFF, use more ghey acronyms meant for 13 year old girls YG. Come on man, you're a senior citizen for crying out loud. Isn't it time to mozy on down to the Golden Corral for their early bird special??

It was ED REED who had the sense of showmanship....and really kept trying to engage the crowd....

after all...watching practice is pretty boring...

Posted by: Kris | September 06, 2013 at 02:26 PM

Thanks, Ed is beloved in Canes Country for being one of the best while at the U with ZERO DRAMA!

My scroll button seems to be working "super fast" now all of a sudden. I wonder what I missed? Probably nothing as usual.

Just saying............................... LOL...

Thanks F4L,

Just read an article about it right before you posted.

Posted by: The Signal | September 06, 2013 at 02:46 PM

Your welcome allowed me to tell that L.Allen story which if you hear Newton tell it is freakin hilarious.

At least 90% chance, you idiot jerks will be seeing the same ole sorry ass Dolphins this season. Get your crying hankies ready.

Just saying............................ LOL...

The U will win another National Title before the Dolphins win another sb. Bet on it.

Just saying......................... LOL...

The Marlins may win another World Series title before the Dolphins ever even make the playoffs. Please do not totally dismiss this.

Just saying............................ LOL...

2013 Fins 6-10, one losing regime ends, and another begins. You loser fans know the drill,

Just saying................................... LOL...

You don't think "loser fans" like you have made this franchise become cursed?

Ask yourselves, why else would your gm draft a wr to be your savior qb? The football gods are past their limits with you.

Just saying............................. LOL...

To the decent fans:

Please find a new team top root for. You deserve it. The idiot jerks have cursed this one. Word to the wise.

Just Saying.......................................

Not a curse? Then why are the Jets/Bills more Nationally relevant than you?

Doesn't matter whether theyre good or bad, they are still more Nationally relevant than the Dolphins.

Just Saying...............................

YG is putting on lipstick and writing a list.

PS:

Will be back later to torment those who have tormented this team with a dreadful curse. Until then, happy losing idiot jerks. LOL...

Hahaha, Billy Madison. What tune is playing in the background while Steve Buschemi puts on the lipstick?

YAY! Can't wait...

Telephone Line by ELO ...

Tht's YG's new theme music.

Oh yeah, one last thing:

Browns 2 Dolphins o

Get your burnt pop corn ready. Just Saying........... LOL...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMo_HcRBnUY

YG at home ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMo_HcRBnUY

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