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Latest on the injury front (with analysis)

The Dolphins are back at practice, preparing for New Orleans and with that practice it is becoming more evident what is going on with the team's injuries.

First the good news: Defensive end Cameron Wake (knee) is doing some light work so he is at least limited in practice today. Reports of him being out two-to-three weeks or longer are greatly exaggerated. He hopes to play Monday night against New Orleans.

That does not mean he will play against the Saints. But he is not today certain of missing the game. Wake is wearing a brace on his sprained knee.

If Wake can go, he'll still be somewhat limited. Expect a lot of snaps for Derrick Shelby and Dion Jordan. Obviously if Wake cannot go, both those youngsters will get even more snaps.

Now the other news: Paul Soliai, who missed last week's game with a knee injury, is also in the Nick Saban Memorial Bubble but he is not practicing at all today. He has been fitted with a brace. And despite that he is limping noticeably.

While he wants to play against the Saints, I seriously doubt he'll be able to do that. Seriously doubt it.

Cornerback Dimitri Patterson, who has missed the past two games with a groin injury, is also not practicing. His status for Monday night is also in serious question to the point I would doubt it.

The Dolphins are getting practice repetitions for rookies Jamar Taylor and Will Davis. Davis played last week while Taylor was inactive.

Finally, Koa Misi, who played less than two dozen snaps against Atlanta, is practicing today. He took part in all the portions of practice open to the media. He could be limited the rest of the way but it is looking good for him to be on the field Monday night.

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No fear, the real Dolphins TEAM is here. We may bend, but, we won't break.

Look for Dion Jordan to have a #3 overall pick day Monday night. The entire nation will see the worthiness of Ireland to trade up to #3 for him.

We still have the best CB that will be on the field Monday (Grimes) and some pretty good safeties. Not sure it's worth Wake/Soliai re-injuring themselves by coming back too early. If we're going to make a run in the Playoffs, we're going to need our weapons later in the Season (especially when we have most our division games). Plus, I'd rather have more players ready for Baltimore, which is an Conference matchup (non-Conference is basically meaningless other than the record).

However, it would be nice to win on Monday Night Football in front of the entire World!

rdubs, how did Dimitri Patterson aggravate his groin injury?

One guy goes down and another has to step up that is what championship teams are made of, so if they want to be a championship team that is what they must overcome.

Although I doubt we'll be able to convince him otherwise Wake probably shouldn't play on Monday. Brees will get the ball out quickly, we need Misi and Patterson more importantly than Wake and Soliai.

Jordon would probably be better used in coverage as well. I'd expect to see Trusnick at some point. Nonetheless, Wake should rest but probably won't. Soliai is always necessary but not too big of a loss this game (good timing).

"how did Dimitri Patterson aggravate his groin injury?"

Based on previous threads, I believe the answer is "Lobstertube."

... Would really like to see him back on the field; he was so good vs. Cleveland ....

A win over the Saints and we're back to national prominence talk. Even the most biased of networks can't look past slaying Luck/Ryan/Brees in succession.

Even if they're saying they don't believe we're for real. They still have to talk about us. Oh and yeah, they will be forced to talk Tannehill moving up in his draft class. Arguably, he's the best of the bunch so far in year 2.

The Saints beat one good team (we beat the same team) and barely beat at bad team (we beat the Colts) and destroyed a really bad team (we beat a good Cleveland team by 13). So our 3 victories are way more impressive then the Saints and yet they are favored by 7, how do you figure that?? Miami will beat the Saints.

Lobstertube? Ok that's a new one for me?

Im telling all of you now, Saints are ripe for the picking. Even with our injuries.

Saints by 7? Just shows Vegas isn't quite convinced yet. That will be this TEAM's job Monday night.

We'll force feed them a very harsh convincing.

Make no mistake, this is toughest game on the schedule. The team and venue are really tough.

I am actually excited to see Shelby, Jordan, Davis, and Taylor get some real playing time. It should be interesting to see what those guys have.

We should change the all of the names on the back of our jerseys to TEAM. That's exactly what we are right now.

Yup Sam I agree. First time in a long time. Thanks coach.

Fins up!

You no afraid we nose-dive?

Lobstertube is my #1 go to site

The best QB on the field will be Ryan Tannehill.

I wanna c more or shelby and jordan anyway. Plus im very highon the kid taylor.n davis as well.nolan carrol n jimmy wilson scare me. Julio jones destoryed them.but brent grimes held his own

Armando,

How did Jelani Jenkins grade out against Atlanta?

Trusnik and Jenkins spelled Misi. And Jenkins was covering Gonzales......ALOT!

From what I could tell, Jenkins had good coverage, comparitively speaking.

PS: Why did Coyle have Misi covering Gonzales early on anyways?

It was embarassing.

Daniel Thomas's TD run was ALL him.

Martin and Cog's both lost their blocks and Clutz didn't help much. Pouncey got blown up so bad, his guy(I think it was Peria Jerry on that play) knocked him back in front of Thomas'lane. Sims is the only guy that held his block on the outside guy.

FWIW - Thomas was a Bad Ass on that one!

Mark,


Isnt it obvious? one lobstertube video too many! It can happen, all the training the do in the NFL cant prepare you for that kind of excercise!

Lots of New Homers here.

Got to stretch beforehand, I guess

Truth,


Xhamster aint bad. Actually better than lobstertube, but lobstertube has a cooler name and makes jokes the jokes sound funnier!

Mark,


Must be nice, to have enough to stretch :(

Mark,


if you ever get bored. I a auick bio of Fuji girl would be nice. Its weird, I dont usually dig white girls, but something about her makes me wanna go to Canada and come home disappointed!

Must be nice, to have enough to stretch :(

Posted by: Rdubs | September 25, 2013 at 03:26 PM
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Rdubs,

New Guinean tribesmen afflicted in this manner hang heavy objects from it.

It WORKS!

Ah......I mean, I've HEARD it works quite well.

People talk, ya know.

rdubs, not much to say ... she's a local girl that I useed to run with. met her at a club (aspiring entertainer) ... had some good times for a couple of years and like most things plays itself out.

I still thank god for the memories and video I have of my time with her ...

Still see and talk to her any time I need to but don't see her as often as I once did. I guess she's still there in case of emergency ... she's not the most stable mentally but ... then again who cares??

Krillian, it's suicide to have a db cover Graham. The size matchup is to great. We probably have a lb on him and I look to see Dion Jordan cover him some in the redzone.
Jordan is the best size speed matchup we have for Graham on our roster. Don't care about Graham having a big day. Just don't allow scoring tds to become part of it.

I mean, if they can stretch the lobe of their ears to reach their shoulders, you probably can also stretch your dikkk to reach your knee.

A point about the last blog and Offensive output.

In these 1st 3 games we've seen alot of double T.E. formation in the redzone which has worked very nicely. In week-1 helping the putrid run game with a much needed goaline score then Vs. Indy with the crack back block by Sims on the DE (only one with angle to cut Miller Off) which sprung a nice 10 Yd. run for a score. It has quietly become a staple of our redzone O this Season with little to NO mention and has the potential to be a very effective part of our O.

It still needs some work (Sims and Egnew need to prove they can make the proper reads consistently)but in Sims defense on the Sack were he whiffed, Osi was playing well off the line and just the week before Vs. the Rams in a similar formation picked off a pass in the flat he took back 50-plus Yds for a pick-6 which was on every highlight reel. He delayed his rush and caught young Mr. Sims napping (probably saw it on film and thought he was in zone pass D)but NO worries Dion will learn from it!

On our last drive everybody is talking about how effectively Tannehill led his troops but isn't mentioning the fact we were in double T.E. for the most part of that drive with the LB's and S.Safety watching the underneath route after the Egnew reception which in turn opened up some intermediate deep middle routes for our WR's backing them off their zone coverage's into more man on an obvious passing drive were one very important things took place.

"Tannehill enjoyed his best pass protection of the day while throwing every down"

The amount of variation we can give out of the double T.E. formation given our personnel is the next step in the evolution of this Offense and I expect to see a healthier dose of it in New Orleans. We've been bringing it on slowly since week-1 and feel good about unleashing the skill set of our 2 T.E.'s with an empty backfield and 3 Wide. I would also look to line up Wallace inside every now and then out of the formation as well.

I told people months ago that odrick should stay at de, with wake at the other end and soliai and Starks at dt. Only bring in Vernon, Jordan and Shelby on third down and pass situations. Our run d if great with this line but when you start Vernon we can't stop anyone. That is facing quiz and Bradshaw not great backs at all

Wish I could share everyone's optimism, but I see the Saints whooping us by at least 2 TDs. The Saints offense makes the three previous offenses we've faced look silly, plus they now have a solid defense. All the missed tackles and poor QB protection will catch up to us.

I hope I'm wrong. If we could win, it would be an awesome season-defining, identity-providing victory and you could pencil them in for the playoffs.

yeah oscar, homers comi'n out of the wood work like termites choking on a splinter.
lol

New Orleans will be tough at home, and I don't expect the Dolphins to win. A win would be great, but a loss to them is ok. I would not rush back players who are recovering from injuries.

The following to games are Baltimore and Buffalo at homes - both games the Dolphins should win. That would set up a showdown at New England to determine first place in the AFC east.

The second half of the schedule is much easier - at TB, SD, Car, at NYJ, at Pitt (no longer the team it used to be), NE, at Buff, and NJY. This team should finish at least 12-4 if it keeps improving. Go Fins!

no loss is ok wtf?
lol

PS: Why did Coyle have Misi covering Gonzales early on anyways?

It was embarassing.

Posted by: odinseye | September 25, 2013 at 03:18 PM

In the 4/3 scheme the SOLB is usually always the Mike and the reason I felt DJ was primed to take this spot after seeing video of him dropping back in College covering slot receivers. Phillip Wheeler played MLB in the 3/4 but we signed him to play WOLB in the 4/3 because of the speed he showed in Indy. It also is important to note that we've been getting beat by the T.E. in crossing routes were they've released come across the formation and made their receptions were all 3 have been badly burned sliding/passing the T.E. in coverage underneath. It seems at this point a communication issue between the 3 to me.

I see the Dolphins laying the smackdown on the Taints candy a##es!

I think the Dolphins are gonna take a football,turn it sideways and shove it up the Saints taints

I told people months ago that odrick should stay at de, with wake at the other end and soliai and Starks at dt. Only bring in Vernon, Jordan and Shelby on third down and pass situations. Our run d if great with this line but when you start Vernon we can't stop anyone. That is facing quiz and Bradshaw not great backs at all

Posted by: Jay | September 25, 2013 at 03:40 PM

Odrick has flashed at DT in the last couple of weeks but the edge play has been LOUSY and if your going to be fair the DE's as a whole have been blown off the ball all Season this Yr.

The Saints are tough to beat at home, but, I think this Dolphins team can do it. There is a lot of talent on this team that people have yet to realize. They will have to be on their "A" game for sure, but don't think they can't play with the Saints. Defensively the Saints have the same personnel they had last year when they were the worst in the league on defense. I expect the miami coaching staff (one of the best in the NFL) to figure out Ryan's schemes and create mismatches. It should be a good game.

Lance,

We had a some posts like this when we faced the Colts. Then again when we faced the Falcon's. Actually, we had some when we faced the Browns too, but I figured those were Trolls.

The point being, any given Sunday.

We faced a pretty good Saints Team a couple of years ago(with a lot less talent than we have now)and put one on them. For the 1st half anyway.

Until proven otherwisw, I'm putting on my "Homer Shades", filling up the Kool Aid Jugs and representing with my No. 91 Jersey!

Whoop-WHOOP!!!!

Fin4,

I hope Sims learns from his pretend block on Osi-LOL!

I watched it over and over again and I can only come up with one THEORY! Apparently Sims didn't realize where he was in relation to the pocket. I think he thought Tannehill wasn't that deep and Osi was over shooting.

A COSTLY rookie mistake. I would have loved to sit in on the film study with Sherman on that one.

Until proven otherwisw, I'm putting on my "Homer Shades", filling up the Kool Aid Jugs and representing with my No. 91 Jersey!

Whoop-WHOOP!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | September 25, 2013 at 03:59 PM

You and me both Brudda! But this game does pose the biggest challenge scheme wise so far. The Saints (as you know) go 4 and 5 wide alot. So this week we'll get our fair share of the young guys for sure (remember Graham is split out in those formations as well)

As a fan since '69 and up here in Patsyville, how psyched can I be to have tix @ Foxboro, er, Gillette, when we play the Pat's this year??? And bringing my 11 yo son, who is a fledgling Phins fan--OK he's been on board for a few years, to see us beat Brady, will be WICKED PISSAH!!!! Living in the heart of Patsyville makes favoring the Aqua and Orange the same as rooting for the Yanks vs the SUCKS. We hold our own!!! We have a great chance to stay up in the Division by the time we face off up here. Now, my biggest concern is not if Wake returns or Soliai or Misi can play this week...it's --Do I get him a Jordan jersey (his favorite player) or a Tanne jersey (the man of the preset anf future). A tough one but either way he likes Aqua and wins.

A COSTLY rookie mistake. I would have loved to sit in on the film study with Sherman on that one.

Posted by: odinseye | September 25, 2013 at 04:03 PM

Osi was lined up off the line enough that initially I can understand if Sims believed he was in pass D. Didn't you catch the highlights of Osi in a very similar play dropping in pass D Vs. the Rams were he had the big pick-6?? I think the Falcons (and Osi especially) suckered Sims GOOD on that one!

Odrick has flashed at DT in the last couple of weeks but the edge play has been LOUSY and if your going to be fair the DE's as a whole have been blown off the ball all Season this Yr.

Posted by: fin4life | September 25, 2013 at 03:57 PM
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First let me say that I think you're right.

But, in their defense, like Tim Ryan kept pointing out, a lot of times, Coyle was getting too cute and stunting or slanting the D-Line down and giving them the off tackle runs all day.

I think Coyle made these calls expecting pass, but still, he had too do a better job.

Having said all that, I have been disapointed with how they've attempted to set the edge. Especially Shelby, I thought he was already big enough and strong enough to handle it. Hope he gets better at it quickly.

Wake manages to set the edge and he's the smallest out of the whole crew. Granted, he doesn't have to often, but he does. The others need to pay attention!

Thy should rest Wake he is too good to rush back and this is a game we probably would lose anyway it is a long season, Not trying to be negative I love my Dolphins.

I just don't think they will go undefeated and this is a a game they would probably drop, you never know i will be rooting very hard for my team. Same with big Paul , we have got off to a good start, and the tough part of the schedule will be over soon.

injuries killing our defense

Misi was covering Gonzales because he could. Philbin said the coverage was "damn good". You had a great Qb throwing to a great WR.

Misi was also the one who slowed his down with that head slam into the turf.

If you want us to win Monday, you should hope that Misi is playing.

odin,

I didn't have the opportunity to see the Sack Sims gave up alot on replay given I was out of Town on business till yesterday and only caught the game on eufirstrow.com watching it on my laptop. But in the regular replays which the Fox crew played to death anyway it surely looked like Uminyora was playing well off the line and rushed off a delay. Given I watched the Falcons Vs. Rams highlights I noticed that the Falcons are (like us) dropping the DE's into zone coverage's and simply fooled the kid on that one.

If you want us to win Monday, you should hope that Misi is playing.

Posted by: Everybody Knows | September 25, 2013 at 04:20 PM
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I was down on Misi at one point. But he has regained my Fandom Worship!

I still don't want to see him covering TE's like Gonzales one on one.

Having said that, watch some of his plays against the run lately. It's completely freaking TEXTBOOK awesome-LOL!

It doesn't matter if it's a big tackle or guard, he has the technique DOWN! He takes them on one on one, stands them up and **BOUNCES** off them and into the ball carrier!

I don't have ANYTHING against Misi, but covering anybody one on one isn't his strong suit.

odinseye | September 25, 2013 at 04:13 PM

Caught Tim Ryan pointing that out a bunch early another thought on him by the way was a big A-Plus on managing to stay objective. The Dolphins an AFC team plays on Fox's NFC show and they have a Falcons All-Timer from their lone S.B. team and best ERA as the Color commentator. As the game was starting I was like DAMN! Zero replay or objectivity in this one but Ole-99 was a real Pro about it.

If you want us to win Monday, you should hope that Misi is playing.

Posted by: Everybody Knows | September 25, 2013 at 04:20 PM

Misi who was a complete and utter liability as a pass defender in Nolan's 3/4 scheme has made BIG improvements so far for Coyle. The man is playing lights out!

I noticed that the Falcons are (like us) dropping the DE's into zone coverage's and simply fooled the kid on that one.

Posted by: fin4life | September 25, 2013 at 04:24 PM
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I hope so. That sounds better than my Theory. Also, until you mentioned it, I (did see Osi's pick 6)but forgot it and didn't take it into consideration on Sim's play.

I hope you're right though, because this would at least indicate the Kid is studying film of his opponents and **TRYING** to put it to use on the field-LOL!

Either way, a good learning lesson for a Kid that I think has a big future here. It didn't cost a game, so live and learn. NEXT-LOL!

I still would have LOVED to hear what Sherman had to say. I mean, I know it's Osi and he's put it too the best of them. But you know Sim's was getting razzled hard in the film room.

Head slamming Graham into the turf is key!

Interesting to hear Hartline say on ESPN this AM that he wouldn't be surprised to see Wake play on Monday. keeping reality of status in the vapor to keep all off guard,or just a pipe dream??? We know if he feels ready to play in any way he will push for it. if he can go, should he? Noone wants to see him really injured for prolonged time. EVERY game is important--no throw-aways! If one were a betting person, the current 6-7 may be a great trap game for NO to squander. Take the points NOW before they drop...

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