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Mike Wallace: Tannehill ahead of where I thought

On Wednesday Dolphins receiver Mike Wallace said this about quarterback Ryan Tannehill:

"I think he's a really good player. I think he's ahead of where I thought he would be. He's a smart player. Whatever it is, the hype and stuff we've been getting the past week or two, he's like, 'I don't care about it.'  He's the same guy. He goes to work and prepares the same way. I think that's going to make him a very good player. He doesn't get caught up in the hype. He continues back to work and worries about what he did wrong. He's not worried about the good throws he made, he's worried about the ones he missed. As long as our quarterback is working like that, we'll be fine."

Let that all marinate for a moment ...

And now let us consider what it all means. You have to remember Wallace came to the Dolphins from the Pittsburgh Steelers and he did so mostly because Miami paid him $60 million with $27 million guaranteed. But in making the move, Wallace understood he was trading in an accomplished, outstanding Super Bowl caliber quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger for a youngster that had thrown more interceptions than touchdowns as a rookie.

Wallace hoped Tannehill would be good. But obviously, now he is seeing Tannehill is better than even he thought he'd be at this stage in Year 2.

Secondly, the Dolphins are starting to get attention now.

(I have always paid attention, but now the national media is coming around because the team's 3-0 record merits it. ESPN was in town on Wednesday. And Tannehill will be the focus of much of that attention.)

Will that freak Tannehill?

He flew under the radar last year compared to Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III because, well, he didn't play as well as those oung guys. But now he's apparently joining their performance ranks.

So what Wallace is saying is important: The attention isn't affecting Tannehill so far.

He doesn't think he's arrived. That's good because he hasn't. But he believes there is still much work to do and much to improve and he's busy working on that rather than basking in any adulation.

That's very good.

Discuss ..

 

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Tannehill has made some huge improvements already. Still has some learning and maturing to do. Poor pocket awareness, holds the ball too much, calls the same snap count for all run plays (go-go) and same for all pass plays (go). But seeing how much he has already improved, I don't believe these issues will last much longer. Even with these issues he is already listed as a top 10 QB this year. Not bad at all.

I guess when Sherman said Tannehill will be the most improved 2nd year QB he wasnt joking. Im glad Wallace isnt throwing Tannehill under the bus even if he currently not getting as much touches as he should.

Tannehill I feel is going to be one of the good one's!!! He needs to get rid of the ball quicker (he knows this), and our OC needs to help with his play calling. Also he needs to vary his snap count, heck even I know when he's going to snap the rock!! Truth is though, our OL is going to be the key to this season, one way or the other.

Peace.

BTW Armando do you get commission from the affilite bannerns on the blog post or is it the Herald?

One of the things I wanted Tannehill to improve on during offseason was snap count. Didn't happen and I wonder why.

How's that 'accomplished, outsanding Super Bowl calibre QB' looking this year? Not so great. No OL. No Wallace. No running game. Big Ben's not going to last the season at this rate.

Same with Brady. He's missing Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, Branch and others. Looks very ordinary actually. Yeah they're 3-0 but they're doing it with smoke and mirrors. It catches up with them this week, against a better Atlanta team.

Point being, yes Tannehill has matured this year and he's better but his wepaons are also a lot better than last year, with Fasano and Bess, along with Hartline, his only real options. Sure he has Bush but there was only so much he could do.

Thank you Armando for translating Wallace's remarks for us backwood hillbillies. All writer's think for some reason that readers cannot understand, comprehend or decipher the all too complicated english language, therefore writers such as Armando feel very good about themselves when they perform the all important public service of explaining to us ignorant folk what was REALLY said!

When he says "...let that all marinate" he's really saying, let me translate for you because I am the Great Armando, and let me tell you what you should think about it.

Next time, instead of treating us like fools, just accurately report what was said and then state your position (yay or nay) and let us ignorant readers read, think and decipher for ourselves without spin. Is that too much to ask?

Carroll brought a lot of the Whipping Boy stuff upon himself.

Having said that, he's working hard and improved. Under Coyle, the progress has been slow, but steady. Not to mention Coyle hasn't been trying to hide him in the system. On the contrary, evidenced by the his assignment against Atlanta.

So Carroll has improved. The biggest improvement has been getting his head around in time to make a play. In all actuality, this was his biggest problem all along.

Carroll will be a GOOD back up 4th corner IMO. Good enough to play in a pinch(like now).

But, the proof is in the pudding. This next game will define Carroll's position for the rest of the year. If he comes up big or even just holds his own against Brees, he'll have taken the next step and Kudos to Carroll. If not, well........Back up/4th corner.....etc, etc.

Now, having said that, Taylor and Davis are what we need, This is a long season and we need to be playing great ball later in the season. We spent a 2nd and 3rd on these two. If they're going to contribute at all this year, we need to bring them along and let them start getting some playing time.

And please, lets stop with the Davis and Smith talk. Phin78 said it best abour Davis being a cancer. And Armando nailed it on Smith. How many times did he drop EASY INT's? It's irrelevent what he's doing now, while he was here....He Stunk!~ Glad they're both GONE and that's all I got on that.

PS: It would be nice and make their departures a lot easier if Will Davis and Taylor could just get on the field FOR ONCE(Dripping Sarcasm).

Is Tanny any better than Henne? The jury is still out on that one.

Is Tanny any better than Henne? The jury is still out on that one.

Posted by: Steve in Ottawa | September 26, 2013 at 04:07 PM
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Steve, allow me to quote Craig M:

Yawn..........

Armando is the best Dolphin writer on the planet and we are lucky to have him. He has tremendous insight and timely articles as well as very good connections inside the team. Keep up the great work, Armando.

Little sensitive @4:02pm, no?

What's wrong honey, nobody give you a hug today?


Little sensitive @4:02pm, no?

What's wrong honey, nobody give you a hug today?

Posted by: Craig M | September 26, 2013 at 04:14 PM

YAWN!!!!!!

Craig M for MORON and Steve in Ottawa need to stick to hockey.....and ice fishing.

love TH, always been on board....time to re-sign Grimes--gotta run

I'll discuss Tannehill.

I thought it was stupid to use the 8th overall pick on such an inexperienced Quarterback.

I wanted him to start day 1. This was so Philbin could see how terrible he was. Thus it would only set us back a year or two as opposed to 4 or 5.

I was positive he would fold and Matt Moore would take over until Devlin(or SOMEBODY/ANYBODY but Tannehill)was ready.

So far, Tannehill has proven me wrong EVERY STEP of the way. He's actually just about won me over. This year, he has shown that he can over come adversity(the O-Line and pass blocking in general)and that he can pick up a team and carry it on his back.

Yeah, Tannehill has done all of these things, including winning me over as a Fan! He's forced me too eat crow and it's NEVER tasted better.

PS: He's making Sherman's prediction look pretty good. You have to admit, Sherman sounded almost senile when he made it.

Pass The Hot Sauce!!!!

Truth....I'm sorry to have to mention this but...first, there isn't a word in the dictionary that's spelled affilite or one bannerns. I know your taking a shot at Armando but you've lost me!! And anyone who knows even a passing amount of English could tell that! Misspelling isn't a crime but one has to be close enough for another to understand.

"Tannehill Stepping Up" coming up on NFL Live

..The Truth..I disagree. I'm not saying that Nolan Carroll is an All State first teamer. Hardly. I trust him much more then either of those 2 rookies in this game. 2 rookies who are still waiting for their nuts to drop(in the league)..Are going to come in and make a difference this week?? Carroll was victim to a better player last week. He is far from perfect, far from ideal. But in the situation we are in..A much better option then either of the rookies.

Posted by: DarrylDunphy | September 26, 2013 at 02:50 PM

Tend to agree but remember we will be in alot of nickle and dime packages this week. The numbers game tells you we will need an additional DB outside of Jimmy Wilson this week. I believe we backed off our pursuit of signing someone off the street because the Coaches feel they have a better solution in house and if not Taylor or Davis then who? Maybe an additional Safety in the game could mean we see McCray (don't discount the possibility) but fully expect to see 6 DB sets on D when the Saints look to spread us out and if our pass rush can hit home maybe some 7 DB sets flooding the lanes on Brees.

Posted by: fin4life | September 26, 2013 at 04:08 PM

Mando, I would like to see you shove your laptop up The Editor's butt. Please tweet the photo.

Why is D Thomas still on my team?

Long time fan cant even leave a real user name. What evs, go Fins. Looking foreward to our Monday night match up. Think its gonna be alot like the Atlanta game minus the Falcons running game. Our pass blocking will be better and our line is starting to mesh. This is our team. What you have seen is the Dolphin personality. Quit waiting for us to fall back into what weve been for ten years. This is us. Thank you Philbin and staff. Hard nosed technique football. The bond is working.

hell of a two minute QB. we need to speed up the O to get those box stackers out of there!

Totally agree with you fin4 on the 6 to 7 DBs. But the front 5 has to stop the run to even get us into that situation.

Canadien Bacon,

You're not fooling anybody bud.....we're well aware you're 'Steve from Ottawa' (nice play on 'Mark from Toronto' by the way) and a whole HOST of other names we know you're using. Cute though.....just like you (smooch).

Agree on Thomas. If he doesn't pick it up then we're looking at a 2nd or 3rd round RB pick next year! I suspect the reason that he's still with us is that he knows the system and they think there just isn't anything better that's available.

So Carroll has improved. The biggest improvement has been getting his head around in time to make a play. In all actuality, this was his biggest problem all along.

Posted by: odinseye | September 26, 2013 at 04:05 PM

We've discussed it over the last couple of Seasons, Carroll has the ability to start at CB in the NFL. The speed/size to more than servieable. It's been his tech. that's the real issue. I've NEVER been more frustrated with a player than I have been with him since a Dolphin because you saw it since they started putting him in the dime packages back to his 2nd Season. He always seems in perfect position with WR's catching passes on him in tight space were if Nolan just turned around he'd have had himself quite a few picks over his career. Last Yr. I was about done with him but late saw some plays were he positioned better and in this Pre-Season saw him looking like a different player. Unlike Jason Allen who had BAD lateral movement and insufficient speed to recover from his constant biting on double moves and go routes Carroll has the athleticism and seems to be working the kinks under Coyle.

Mando taking the Jets to wins in and the Fins to lose. Sorry Mando, you'll be wrong again after Monday Night.

NeMo,

I don't think he's wrong this time. I think the 'Phins will lose this time. It's OK. We can't win every week. I wanted these guys healthy for the rest of the season and for the young guys to start getting some action.

Not syre about the Titans/Jets game. Tough one to call.

Interesting to note that as of right now we are a 6 1/2 point underdog to the Saints. But looking forward to next week's game against the Ravens we're a 3 point fav. Superdome and injuries have been adjusted for but when we get home we probably play a team that, right now, we stack up better against.

Fin4,

I saw a hilarious play against Cleveland. I believe it was just before Carroll's Int. He was running stride for stride with the Receiver and you could see him almost FORCE himself to get his head around. It looked almost ROBOTIC. But he "Did It(yeah-Whoop-WHOOP!)"

It was hilarious to me because I've been harping on this for years. And there it WAS! He DID IT!

I felt like a Proud Papa watching his Son playing Pee Wee's-LOL.

It seems Coyle is working his magic on Carroll. As much as I was riding him for the bad, I should give him Props when required. I was impressed with how well he handled Ryan and Jones.

Props to Carroll!

Craig, didn't you think we would lose to the Colts and Falcons as well? Gotta have faith man. I will agree with you that this will be a tough game and if there is a game to lose its against an NFC team on the road.

This might be our hardest game all year between this and @ the Pats. Still I think we have a decent shot. Our offense and defense are both very good when it comes to points. We shall see in a few days.

Nemo,

Don't pay any attention to Craig M's predictions on Miami.

I believe he picked us to lose against Indy and Atlanta. He was undecided on the Browns.

So, Craig's a good fan no doubt. I'm just saying, his picks......not so good-LOL!

titans beat the jets down behind chris Johnson runnin the rock....he goes for 143 and 2 scores jake locker adds a td to Washington and the titans win 25-13

Totally agree with you fin4 on the 6 to 7 DBs. But the front 5 has to stop the run to even get us into that situation.

Posted by: Progolf667 | September 26, 2013 at 04:30 PM

Everybody worried about the DB's but if the DL can't get there this week then we will get lit up this time.

The coaches fore saw the issues at DB, that's why they decided to carry 10 of them going into the season. If your a cancer in the locker room (Davis) or always in the training room (Patterson & Marshall), or miss the big plays (smith with ALL the dropped interceptions) your not going to be a Dolphin very long.

Patterson will be a stop gap player this year, there's no way Ireland keeps an often injured player that goes 5 Mil against the CAP. Both Philbin & Ireland are building on youth through the draft, and will probably draft another two DB's next year.

Another thing to point out, seems the boys on offense are catching the ball this year. Of course, Miller dropped that pass that looked like a sure TD. I think one of the major reasons that THill is doing well is that the players are catching the ball consistently very few drops.

Even Egnew cought his first NFL pass, I know a lot of fans are down on him, but he's special project. Philbin has stated that the TE is the second most complicated position, after the QB and has faith in Egnews development. I really like our TE setup with Sim's, Clay (who's not dropping the ball this year) and Egnew. Get a fourth versital TE and watch out for even more complicated spreads on offense. If by the end of the year, Philbin doesn't think he can make Egnew into an NFL TE, he's gone to Burger King.

And since THill is a smart guy, I'd like to see Sherman and him work on that snap count. Maybe a silent count, or variations of the inflection of his voice (Griese was a master of changing his voice inflection / projection to include his infamous head-bob movement to draw the d-line off sides that was finally out lawed).

Can't disagree much with Craig M's prediction. I see it as roughly a 80% to 20% probability toward the Saints. But this is the NFL so we stand a punchers chance. Thus the 1 in 5.

Odin,

I picked us to lose to Indy but I actually picked us to beat Atlanta. As the week went on I didn't feel good about my pick but I did infact have us beating Atlanta last week in my pool.

This week however I have New Orleans and I have money on them. In fact, New Orleans is my picked in a Survivor Pool I'm in (changed it from Atlanta, who I think will beat the Pats this weekend too).

Progolf, im not taking a shot at Armando u idiot, if you knew anything about web marketing youll know what im writing. Give yourself a favor and go F yourself dummy

Well said Odin. Not questioning Craig's loyalty I know he is a big fan. Bottom line, I like you Craig, but I hope you are wrong again on Monday.

Way to be a sellout Dolfan Craig

NeMo,

I'll be there cheering for the 'Phins this week with the rest of you but I think there's no shame in losing to the Saints on the road in a Monday night game. Were we at full strength with Soliai, Wake and Patterson playing and perhaps with the kids having a little more experience behind them, I'd give us a better chance. If guys like Jordan, Shelby, Vernon and Carroll can really step up, then of course we have a chance. I don't beieve New Orleans defence is as good as it's shown so far.

I see a high-scoring game Monday and I worry that the game gets away from us, as it did when the Saints came to Miami a couple of years ago. I'm expecting that same kind of game.

Fin4,

I saw a hilarious play against Cleveland. I believe it was just before Carroll's Int. He was running stride for stride with the Receiver and you could see him almost FORCE himself to get his head around. It looked almost ROBOTIC. But he "Did It(yeah-Whoop-WHOOP!)"

It was hilarious to me because I've been harping on this for years. And there it WAS! He DID IT!

I felt like a Proud Papa watching his Son playing Pee Wee's-LOL.

Posted by: odinseye | September 26, 2013 at 04:46 PM

I actually do know exactly what play your talking about given the awkward motion he makes turning around, yes it seemed ugly and stiff, LOL!

Last year T-hill had, on most occasions, an 18 inch window to thread the ball through (or less!). This year our receivers are so much better that they can create some separation. Certainly makes it easier on the QB. More room for T-hill to era and still make a play. Which can't do anything but build his confidence.

NeMo,

I hope I'm wrong. I agree with you that this will be one of our toughest games of the year. They've passed two very tough tests so far in Inday and Atlanta but I think the setting and the fact it's a Monday night game makes it that much tougher for us. That crowd will be rocking and it'll be a VERY tough test for a lot of the young guys.

When has Craig M. not picked against us this year? LOL. It's got to be rough being a "Fan" and picking against your team continuously.

I'm telling you guys, we have NOTHING TO LOSE against the Saints.

I know I sound like a Homer Cheer Leader, but there is a method to my madness. We have injuries all over the place, but we have youngsters stepping up every week.

At crunch time, we've been money! If we did this one week or even two, that's one thing. But we've done it 3 weeks stright, two on the road, against two good playoff teams.

Nothing to lose, injuries all over the place, on the road against one of the best teams in the league.
Hmmmmmmmm.......I'd say it's time to pull all the stops!

Coyles going to turn these guys loose! Sherman's going to go DEEP into the playbook and let Tannehill pick out all of his favorites!

Maybe the biggest thing, Jim Turner is going nuts on these Big guys up front. It probably doesn't look like it, but the O-Line has improved, if only by baby steps. Martin and Clabo probably played their best games. Cogs and Pouncey are always ready, especially on the big stage. they'll rise to the occasion. Jerry's a stiff, but probably the best we got at Right Guard.

I said all that to say, I predict this O-Line gets tired of being blamed. Tired of Tannehill leading the league in sacks. I predict that they put together their best game of the season. Meaning the run game tromps and Tannehill actually gets to use some play action!

This will be HUGE! This happens and we hand the Saints their ass in a hand basket. On HOME on Monday Night Football no less!

The Saints are the ones that need to be worrying!

Truth....web marketing and the words affilte and bannerns still leave me wondering about you?

Tanny is on fire...I love that he hits who's open and does not force anything. Even his INT's were thrown to open receivers, picked off as "tips" or deflections.

Now, Brees is from another planet. We need to smack his small 'arse' into the turf a few times and he will think about standing in the pocket and hitting his receivers.
Jimmy Graham and Sproles need to be covered. They won't be stopped fully, but maybe contained like Julio Jones last week....some yards, no big plays, NOOOO TD's...Phins in close one 24-21--gooo Sturgis...long kick in da-dome !

I see a high-scoring game Monday and I worry that the game gets away from us, as it did when the Saints came to Miami a couple of years ago. I'm expecting that same kind of game.

Posted by: Craig M | September 26, 2013 at 05:01 PM

That game slips away with Shockey exposing the MLB's (Ayodele and Crowder) along with S.Safety Gabril Wilson. I'm not saying they won't make their plays in the seam but have noticed since week-1 that the Browns started running Cameron across the formation underneath were he was losing the coverage, again last week Vs. Falcons Gonzalez seemed to be crossing the formation towards a sideline in every pass he caught were the LB's kept losing him in coverage, only Fleener really made plays in deep middle seam Vs. us so far. It's more correctable than a T.E. simply running away from our defenders down the seam.

This week however I have New Orleans and I have money on them. In fact, New Orleans is my picked in a Survivor Pool I'm in (changed it from Atlanta, who I think will beat the Pats this weekend too).

Posted by: Craig M | September 26, 2013 at 04:57 PM
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Craig, just ribbing you a bit.

You look good where the money is concerned. And YEAH! Won't it be nice seeing the Pats go down to Atlanta.

The only thing sweeter will be when we upset the Saints-LOL!

How about giving Don Jones some PT at safety? The way Clemons is struggling and how that kid looks on special teams I think he deserves a few plays at least.
Also would like to see Dion Jordan at OLB, specially with Misi banged up.
Also would like to see Tanneyhill roll out a few times to keep blitzing LBs honest and use his mobility.

That said, being 3-0 I'm not going to say coaches are not doing well.

I actually do know exactly what play your talking about given the awkward motion he makes turning around, yes it seemed ugly and stiff, LOL!

Posted by: fin4life | September 26, 2013 at 05:02 PM
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I'm glad you saw the play! Otherwise my post sounds a little out there.

I almost spilled my drink cheering, jumping up and down and LMAO all at the same time.

My poor dog, I'm sure he thought I lost my mind-LOL!

Jerry's a stiff, but probably the best we got at Right Guard.

Posted by: odinseye | September 26, 2013 at 05:05 PM

This is another guy who truly Peeves you off to no end! Outside Pouncey this maybe (when in shape) the best pure athlete on the starting OL but takes half a Season to get going conditioning wise. Watch him have another monster Dec. but this time he fools NO ONE! Gets shown the door at Seasons end and the reason I'm crossing my fingers the athletic Dallas Thomas pans out because while everybody is looking at our CAP and thinking about resigning Solia and Starks, I'm personally wondering about our LG,RG & RT Positions because our group right now with ZERO on the bench are all scheduled to hit the FA market after the Yr. and before you ponder the FA market at OL remember as well the 8 Mil. a Yr. or so that 2015 FA Pouncey will command!

Last year T-hill had, on most occasions, an 18 inch window to thread the ball through (or less!). This year our receivers are so much better that they can create some separation. Certainly makes it easier on the QB. More room for T-hill to era and still make a play. Which can't do anything but build his confidence.

Posted by: Progolf667 | September 26, 2013 at 05:03 PM
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**GREAT OBSERVATION**

And so true! This has as much to do with Tannehill's improvements as anything else!

I'm REALLY starting to like this group of receivers. Would like to see more of Wallace for sure, but when their busy with Wallace, the rest are doing their jobs, getting separation and making the catch!

BIG improvements compared to last year!

Posted by: MADFIN | September 26, 2013 at 04:55 PM

Very good post and agree with the various points you make here 100%! By the way I always felt the King of the snap count inflection was Bears QB Jim McMahon who seemed to make a living off the cheap flags.

A smart, humble and hard-working QB is that we got.
Not an overrated one like the Tebows, Sanchez, GR3s, etc. that appeared in the medias all the time, prior and afterwards their drafts.

Perhaps, we don't have a flashy QB, but we got a reliable and a serious one. Precisely an smart and humble QB is always trying to improve and correcting his mistakes like T-hill.
This is our guy for the years to come. The GM has to keep providing him with the right weapons. Much work to do for the next draft and free agency.

In the mean time, let's enjoy the MNF. I'm sure our guys will deliver.

I agree that Tannehill needs to get rid of the ball faster on SOME throws, but will also note that he has made tremendous improvement since last year and that is one of the fastest QBs in getting rid of the ball.
According to PFF Tannehill average time to throws in 2013 has been 2.46 seconds. He is tied for 6th with Philip and ahead of Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees.
Last year, his average time to throw was 2.72 seconds. I do not believe that his average time to throw is causing the extra sacks.

BIG improvements compared to last year!
Posted by: odinseye | September 26, 2013 at 05:19 PM

I've been very impressed with the development of Kaepernick College WR at Nevada R.Matthews who I'm thrilled we developed because for my money maybe the most improved 2nd Yr. guy on this team with little to NO fan fare!

I'm a self admitted Homer, but that's irelevent.

This team is for real and it's going to be even better as the season goes on.

We haven't scratched the surface with Dion Jordan and Sims.

Grimes is ranked no. 2 by PFF and Taylor and Davis are going to be GREAT! I have no doubts about these two.

Also, Sturgis' importance cannot be overstated. By this time last season(ALMOST anyways)Carp. cost us a couple of games. I believe Fields is top 3 in punting. Coupled with Sturgis and youngsters like Don Jones, we have some awesome speacial teams too.

Ireland and Philbin have been doing an exceptional job at improving this roster and managing the Cap!

"The Perfect Storm" 3-0 Baby!!!!

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