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Philbin: "We got a helluva team in the making'

INDIANAPOLIS -- Joe Philbin is a planner. He's a professor. He's logical. He's not big on emotion. Basically, he's a vulcan without the pointed ears.

He definitely showed the media no self-satisfaction in beating the Indianapolis Colts, 24-20, on the road on Sunday despite it being perhaps his best victory as a Dolphins coach. Indeed, near the end of an emtionless press conference, I asked him if he was even happy he won.

"Absolutely, yeah" he said looking away, "real proud of the guys. Can't you tell?"

His wife, standing off to the side watching the presser, was among those who laughed.

But just before that presser, in the confines of the locker room right after the game, Philbin actually said something that was interesting. Yes, he read his bullet points off his card to the players as he often does in his postgame speech -- told you he's professorial -- but when he turned away from his notes he announced to his players:

"We got a helluva team in the making!"

Read that again.

"We got a helluva team in the making!"

Now, it's one thing if that's outspoken Pete Carroll saying that because Carroll looks at a Kia and thinks it has a chance to be a helluva Cadillac. That also wasn't emotional Jimmy Johnson. That wasn't Rex Ryan bragging as has been his style.

That was understating, undemonstrative, stoic Joe Philbin going all bright future on us.

And that speaks ... No, that yells ... It yells volumes about what the coach thinks is the celing for his young team.

As I wrote for Monday's Miami Herald, the Dolphins aren't quite yet a certain playoff team. You shouldn't be buying Super Bowl tickets yet. But the Dolphins now are relevant. They are rolling and about to gain more attention because they finally have playmakers as the game-clinching sack by Phillip Wheeler (Courtesy a Joe Rimkus photo) showed.Luck sack

And they're growing and becoming a good team.

I'm an outsider and I can see it.

Philbin, on the inside, obviously thinks it.

This team is headed in a good direction. And by the time the journey is done, the Dolphins might indeed be "a helluva team."

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Great to see so many "positive" comments,and any negative ones do not matter this morning! I held my breath until Wheeler sacked Luck and then I knew that we had this game and the win. It is truly a good feeling to have a win like that and I beleive we can give Atlanta all that they can handle this coming Sunday. 3 and 0 ??

This team has it's issues and we all know what they are:

1) OLINE giving up too many sacks and it doesn't help when your RB's and TE's are inconsistent blockers.
2) CB injuries put Wilson and Carroll in the starting roles and that is scary
3) Clay has played pretty well but the TE depth is an issue
4) Sherman's play calling has been inconsistent and it needs to improve soon
5) Starting LB's playing well but depth is an issue

But I think everyone appreciates that moost NFL teams have weak links. Most NFL teams have inconsistency issues week to week. This Fins team has its issues, clearly. But this Fins team is showing real progress from last year.

1) THILL really showing command of the Offense and spreading the ball around including some big 'chunk yards'
2) Wallace is a difference maker, posting catches and TD's but also helping others to get open.
3) Grimes is reliable and creates INT's
4) D Line will put pressure on most QB's and reduce the time they have to pick our suspent CB's apart.
5) Young talent hasn't fully blossomed but their early potential is exciting: Sturgis, Jordan, Allen, Sims, Taylor

2-0 on the road and this team is progressing. I see a legit shot at winning against Atlanta next week. I ony hope the Fans come out to the stadium and finallly make it a home field advantage!!!!!

A few observations...

1- loved the fact that THill marched the team to two very nice drives in the first quarter, he looked like he had great command & control. Kid just keeps proving himself, just needs to throw the ball away if everyone is covered and not take the sack.

2- I knew I wasn't seeing things last week, but yup they did have a 5 receiver set and ran that set again this week. The announcer even stated we where in a 5 receiver set, Sherman's not calling dynamic plays? A 5 receiver set is very creative.

3- I think the Colts coaches played right into our defense, what I mean by that...is that we have an awesome run D and they called all run plays during a cricial series. I think with 8 mins left in the 4th quater with good field position, they didn't call any pass plays for Luck. We shut it down, I'm sure their fans (colts) must be pissed.

4- we could win the Super Bowl blowing out the Packers or the 49's, and anything on the FINS will be on the last page. The Northern Media can't stand the FINS, it's so obvious but I'm used to it.

5- thanks god Ireland knows how to manage the CAP correctly, cuz Grimes is going to want to get paid and if he plays the whole season like this he'll deserve it. Among other players like Soliai, etc.

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Here's a tip on how I read this blog, I don't even read the comment until I read which "Board Head" posted it. Saves time and keeps my blood pressure normal, skip all nonsense.

It looks good on all the clowns that ripped Ireland and Philbin and Tannehill and Wallace and Miller. These are the guys that will be jumping on the bandwagon.....WATCH.

You've ripped this team for years fellas and now you want to stand here and celebrate with the rest of us. Well f-u......the bus is full. No room at the Inn. Go join the biased based North East media and go cheer for whteber they are promoting these days. Therestof us will stick with the team we love and if by chance this thing goes of the rails, thats OK, because we're fans of this team and we'll support them through thick and thin. That's what real fans do. That's what fans of the soon to be 0-2 Steelers will do.

GREAT win yesterday. Great wayto start the season. Lots of positives. Bring on Atlanta, another tough test.


Clay has been stepping up at a place where the Dolphins most need it. If clay keeps providing plays at the TE position that's nothing but good news for the Dolphin offense. BTW, don't care if the media is not giving Dolphins respect. The team does not need media approval to keep winning.

Great statement win. Congrats to coach and team.

Turnovers 1 to 1 in this game for the 1st 2 games Dolphins have a 4 to 2 edge in turnovers for a differential of 2.

Points off of turnovers this is the only stat that I follow that Indy won scoring 3 points off of one turnover, and the Dolphins didnt score any points off their single turnover in this game.After two games the Dolphins are even having scored 3 points off of turnovers while giving up 3 points.BTW the Dolphins lone turnover was an interception in the end zone preventing Indy from scoring points.

Red Zone ratio the Dolphins were perfect in this game and for the season 4 trips in the Red Zone and 4 Tds.Indy didnt take advantage of their Red Zone drives which helped Miami win.Indy was in the Red Zone 4 times which included the possession after the turnover and scored 2Tds and 2Fgs.Miami won by 4 points and if Indy had scored one more Td off of their 4 trips into the Red Zone they would have had 4 more points and would have tied the score.

I thought Sherman called an excellent game and seemed to be pass first and mixed in the run perfectly getting longer runs at the right time and using up the clock in the 3rd quarter.

To all the guys that were saying 'pay Starks', the reason you don't is because you have Soliai to re-sign and I think this team needs to make re-signing Grimes a priority. So all the guys who said we cheaped out on signing Leach, need to know that there is a plan going forward. Nice that the kids are coming but to me Grimes is becoming must re-sign material.

Great win...and nobody, I mean nobody in the media is talking about how Tannehill out-dualed Luck.

Manning vs. Manning is all anyone talked about yesterday, then the 49ers vs Seahawks.

...I one regard I'm pissed the Fins are not getting the kudos they deserve, but then I realize it's always better to be under the radar and glaring scrutiny of the talking heads.

Stay strong fins fans...the season's just starting to heat up.

"in the making" implies Future, Kris. If and how long in that Future will we have a helluva Team? I don't know. Neither do you.

Oh yea...Sherman must have read my post from last week when I said to use Wallace on underneath routes and watch his YAC go up.

...well that's exactly how he scored his TD. short screen pass and let his open field skills get him in the end zone.

I see this playing out this season...send Hartline deep and let Wallace slide underneath in space for the easy reception.

One note: Tannehill still has trouble hitting receivers in stride....especially on crossing routes, but I do see improvement!

Ryan Tannehill: now 3-1 against his draft class from last year (Luck, Wilson and Weeden).

Take that haters.......

King,

Great points on the turnovers, that ratio you explained is HUGE and one of the major issues we have had in the past. I think with all the speed on this defense, we will see more turn overs in our favor this year. Ditching Dansby & Co., for Wheeler & Elerber looks like another smart move on the FO's part.

I think Sherman called a good game, more creative & dynamic, more exciting. There was a series with straight running plays that had me straching my head, but the Colts also did the same thing to our advantage, so it even out. I think Sherman is getting a better feel for what Wallace can do, but he sticks to his game plan.

Fun part of this game, from the start we where in it and it was exciting to watch. This team is young and will only improve.

Ryan T is going to be a Doctor, just as I am now. He smart as hell.

For my taste and nerves, too many close calls. Those 3s and 4s and one. Open it up.

Craig,

Yea, signing Soliai and Grimes will be a priority. Saving money from not signing Long, Bush, Leach, etc. is showing to be smart moves. I really like our mix, Ireland-Philbin-Sherman-Coyle and an owner with the wallet and willingness to SMARTLY SPEND.

Man, if I was a football player with the name of "Clutts" ...I can't stop laughing typing this...
but I damn sure would change my name. Heck, I'd take Cleo "Lemon" over being a Clutts! LOL

MADFIN,

I'm looking for the comments from everyone that 'we made a huge mistake' letting Bush go. Where are those comments this morning? Do we only hear those after he has a big game and when he's not injured?......too funny!

I am generally happy with the progress being made witht the offense.

While the total running average per run was < 4yds for Game #2 that is driven by 3-4 short yardage plays (Clay TD, 2 QB sneaks, etc). Overall average for Miller was almost 5 yds and Thomas was almost 4 yds. Much improved after Game #1.

Wallace was clearly more involved.

Clay made some big plays.

My concern with Sherman is that he sometimes doesn't seem to immediately move his play calls based on what is going on real-time. Yesterday they were running well but there were one or two drives where no runs were called. 3rd and 1 and he calls for a pass to Clutts, instead of Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Miller, Thomas, Clay....Clutts? I am also concerned that short yardage plays seem really difficult for Miami. Sherman sets up short yardage tight formations and I'd rather him spread the field and keep the D guessing.

Again, I am happy with the progress between the two games. I'd just like to see Sherman make these adjustments. Not looking for crazy or dynamic plays.

Too late Mando, I've already made all my reservations for the SuperBowl!

And I hate to add a note of discord on an otherwise exciting day after win, but the fukks on the blog on game days are real pieces of sh*t. I was only able to watch the first half yesterday (don't worry, have it recorded, will watch the rest tonight), but came on after the game to revel in our win, and pretty much all that was on here were Jets idiots saying this Dolphin or that Dolphin were out for the year.

Hey oscar, I usually don't engage a troll like yourself, but you care to repeat the crap you were saying yesterday about Soliai?

Because the reports I'M reading aren't saying ANYTHING about Soliai being out for the year. He's getting tests to make sure there's no structural damage today, but the early prognosis is he'll be fine.

So how about you troll piece of trash, further tarnishing your troll reputation. Why don't you regurgitate your bs from yesterday in the light of day?

Dolphins pass rush was good. Luck does a great job to avoid sacks and gets rid of the ball quickly. The defense does not worry me. Will Atlanta and New Orleans score, ya, but the difference so far with this defense than in years past is the ability to creat turnovers. Offensive juggernauts take big risks, means big opportunities for Miami

What?

No entry about Gibson only having one catch or Miller only having 14 rushes despite averaging nearly 5 yards a rush? What about Jordan not getting enough snaps despite showing a great penchant for getting to the qb??

Only good things about a tough, hard earned, and noteable road victory?

About time ....

ok fairies, sling u'r mud.
lol
c, if i b.yt.ch they win. do u want me 2 stop b.ytchi.ng?
lol

2-3

Atlanta game looking more and more like a realistic win. They had 4-5 starters get injured this week and left the game. Roddy White is still hurt and he had less than 40 yards. Their running game produced < 50 yards. Matty Ice was sacked and hit frequently. They won but they beat the Rams. It was the combo of Matty Ice and Jones that won the game.

I think the Fins have Grimes shadow Jones and they keep the pressure on to melt ICE. I like the Fin's chances. We need the stadium full....and LOUD.

Could care less what those North East media types think. Just like the trolls here, they will either jump on the bandwagon or disappear. They want to compare this team to the Eagles "Dream Team" which just goes to show how ridiculous they are. The Eagle bought in a whole bunch of veterans who were had good careers. Ireland paid for a bunch of young up and comers whose best years are ahead of them. Wheeler, Elerbee, Wallace etc. that's the difference. This team and the fans have suffered for years and Ireland was able to save money and has now bought in a group of core players that will be here for some time. The season has just started and things can go wrong, injuries etc so I'm not going to get ahead of myself but right now this team can only get better.

oscar. there's a ton of dumb dumb dr.s out there.
don't kid u'rself.
lol

DC,

Don't forget the beauty from YG/FIRE ROSS at the most important part of the 4th quarter about 'Philbin's dead son being a rapist'. This character FIRE ROSS is a real scumbag! I hope we meet someday pal, cause I'd take great pleasure in punching your lights out. You're a disgusting human being and I only wish there was a way we could meet up. How you escape the wrath of Armando on here I'll never know.

luky 4 the phinz that every team suxx.
lol

DC,

Congrats on the win this week, btw......coach is already on the hot seat after starting 0-2.

I'm looking for the comments from everyone that 'we made a huge mistake' letting Bush go. Where are those comments this morning? Do we only hear those after he has a big game and when he's not injured?......too funny!

Posted by: Craig M | September 16, 2013 at 08:45 AM

Craig- I am as happy as anyone here but let;s be real about your evaluation of Bush. The guy NEVER got hurt in Miami and played at the highest level behind a suspect D line. Now he gets dinged and you come to the table with "I told you so." Meanwhile, let's deal with the reality of what we have in Miami- "an average running game at best." You strike me as one of those guys that can't wait for an opportunity to make the "other guys," know as realists, wrong.

The truth is that whehter letting Bush walk was the right or wrong idea, the FO gambled and it doesn't like they have the future backfield in place. I recall your repeatedly defending the Daniel Thomas pick. Are you still of the belief that he is our future? Remember Ireland traded up to get this bum.

It is a correctable situation for sure by bringing in better competition next year, but it sure likes a major flaw at the moment.

Excited about the progress elswehere, but let's be objective fans, and not total homers trying to prove the rest of us wrong!

2 watt...

0-5 huh...

now its EVERY team sucks....

no concession...and no CONGRATS FINS from you....

just 3rd grad..."lucky for the FINS every team suck"....lol....

and i'm not laughing WITH you....

Tvegas,

What we had to listen to last week from many was what a 'huge mistake it was that we let Bush go'. I'm simply saying, 'where are those comments this week'.

Do we only hear it after he has a big game? So if it's Ok for people to say that, how is it not OK for me to say it after he has gets hurt or has a mediocre game.

I stand by the premise that paying Bush the money he got didn't make sense. I'd rather spend that money on Grimes and Soliai. We're 2-0 with a mediocre running game, in a passing league. Works for me.

Excellent analysis by KingShula at 8:19. Turnovers and red zone efficiency are huges stats ... win those battles and play even on special teams and there you go ...

And tvegas,

It has nothing to do with being a homer. If guys are going to come that crap after Bush has a big game, they're going to get it back after he struggles or gets hurt. Too bad if that doesn't jive with you.

2 watt has no material left. Minimum 2-3 after the toughest part of the schedule although I expect us to be 4-1. Does anyone really fear the Saints or Ravens???

Atlanta though - they are a handful on offense and with our secondary banged up ... sheesh even me as the biggest homer has to fret.

By the way, Tannehill > RG3 and Luck so far this year ...

By the ay regarding media, last year when Luck beat the DOlphins, you couldn't get enough media coverage of that game. This year and Tannehill indeed showing that he si the most improved QB in the NFL, nothing, nothing even during a one hour rain delay in the night game.

Shame on you ESPN ... shame!!!

L.Miller won the game.

He picked up the 1st down when it mattered most.

Mark....

RG3 can't even properly be evaluated...the guy is hurt....not an opinion...a fact...he is not 100%...and is playing like a guy who is scared.....

I think they should bench this guy and let him rehab it out....he is the FUTURE...and his past performance should keep everyone in Skins camp with job security....

I don't understand Shanny on this one...

Agree the zero penalties is huge. That says alot about our coaching. I also loved the double 53 yd FG, and the way philbin responded to the first one- "Good Job - do it again" is how he looked. Good things a brewing! I'll say it again - Grimes is a beast - always right there on his guy!


By the ay regarding media, last year when Luck beat the DOlphins, you couldn't get enough media coverage of that game. This year and Tannehill indeed showing that he si the most improved QB in the NFL, nothing, nothing even during a one hour rain delay in the night game.

Shame on you ESPN ... shame!!!

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | September 16, 2013 at 09:20 AM
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Agree Mark and not just ESPN, NFL Net too. No one peep but if the Colts had won? No respect, it pisses me off

Wow, when DC is laying the wood then you know the trollism is getting out of control..

By the way, Dayotona found his way back on teh blog yesterday and was his usual tard self. Sad to see on a day that is meant for us that care to celebrate.

Kris, no doubt regarding Bob. His initial prognosis was that he shouldn't even be playing now. however the shanahans really messed up this guy's career. Not even the slightest attempt at making this guiy a pocket passer. Now he's in teh pocket without a clue. Season down the drain in Washington...

the 2004 team started out 2-0.

bobby, good to see you here. I know you don't post as often as you used to but u are one of my favourites. Staunch defendant of the Dolphins ...

Mark,

Its why I've said for a while now, this guy isn't even a fan of this team. He keeps his rants rolling when the team is struggling but when they're winning he's hard up for material. I make his very existence that more pathetic. Nothing better to do than hang out in a Blog 24/7, talking about a franchise he doesn't even like. PATHETIC!

Hence the reason he took the shot at Philbin's son at a key point in the game yesterday. He can't stand this team having success. Bet he's quiet this week. No material.

Craig-
First, Bush didn't sign for big money, so let's get your facts straight first. In fact, he wanted modest money to stay.

But he's gone... that's water over the dam.

Let's agree on one thing for a change- I love the way the Fins are playing. I'm buying into the system.

However, I am stuck in Bills country and I can tell you that they have a great 1-2 punch at RB that the Fins lack. Just being honest. In fact, they look like the most improved team in football and their draft looks unbelivebale at this point.

THe Fins look like they are finally building something. But you are quick to judge when the reality is we have no idea if our backs can get the job done. I am of the opinion that they are serviceable at best but maybe Miller grows and flourishes over the long term.

I only point of the weaknesses because none of us wants to see another Marino era when some of the pieces were put in. place, but not enough to get him a ring. Fins are on the right track but a lot of losing has some of the real fans jaded around here and that doesn't make those people bad fans. Winning cures everything. Let's see it

the 2004 team started out 2-0.

Posted by: 2 watt | September 16, 2013 at 09:32 AM
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2 watt...

if your gonna be a TROLL...@ least be an educated one....the 2004 FINS started of 0-6....

http://www.phins.com/games04/

and BTW.... its 2013....in case you didn't know...

lol...

again...not with you....but @ you....

I was @ Slatterys Midtown Pub... home of the NYC DolFans crew!
awesome time for one helluva win!

not enough has been said to how important Caleb Sturgis's 54 yard FG to end the first half was. If it wasn't for those 3 points, Colts would have only needed a FG to win on final drive of game. Not only was it 54 yards but he nailed twice letting Pogano know that he can't be iced!!!

btw Craig- We also agree on another thing. FIRE ROSS, YG, or whatever the hell is name is, should be banned.

Mando- do what's right and get this disturbed individual off the board

Make no mistake about it, we need improvements in some areas, however we are overlooking the positive. Two seasons ago we were watching sparano's inept offense. First down-running play, second down-wildcat, third down-passing play, fourth down-punt. This is not the same old phins. You guys should've noticed that from preseason. Great win sunday.Next up falcons. Fins up!

No one has mention the rookie draft kicker after been freeze by Indy, tied the game in half time..Jeffy start to look like a real GM ?

tvegas, but can one say that Bush was great here in Miami. i was one that said thye should sign him but it was more for his untapped receiving skills than for what he showed here. 900 yards last year was not special ... not even good. If they didn't plan to use him as a receiver then he's best gone.

I'm way more concerned with the Oline than the backs. They'll be serviceable - the line though can't go on giving up 5 sacks a game.

Buffalo and Carolina both have had amazing one two punches at rb for years. Heck even us during the Ricky and Ronnie years. Hasn't done either a lick of good though. Rushing offense just needs to be ok - not great anymore...

Sturgis is a weapon, no doubt. And some talking heads say that was a waste of a fifth round pick??? Oh those talking heads ...

Donnie Brasco---I mentioned the "freeze" 3 comments before you, lol

@Madfinfan: Great post agree with everything except Colts field position when they tried three running plays and punted.
Excellent advice about checking the name of the poster before reading the post. Some of the regulars on here who actually make a little sense when they post such as Mark in Toronto, Craigm, and DC Dolfan to name a few might want to consider it.

anyone else have a problem with Armando bandwagon jumping after he picked the Colts to win? lol

Thanks Craig.

Yeah Mark, it got friggin ridiculous yesterday (and I see the Herald deleted a bunch of the posts). But I come on here, huge win, and all I hear about is Soliai out for the year. So I go to find confirmation, can't get it anywhere. And I KNOW Mando wouldn't speculate on an injury without confirmation from the team (so he didn't say anything like that on Twitter, but I'm not on there, so don't have confirmation myself of that, I'm just assuming Mando isn't that bad of a reporter).

And like Craig said, a lot of it was FIRE ROSS the loser (is that YG?) but others were chiming in. I know you can't stop the Jets haters invading the blog (what else do they have to do) but when most of the posts are ANTI-Dolphins, something's wrong.

Again, in the light of day, they scurry like roaches.

Where is the term "Thenne" this morning? It is very hard to read all this positive stuff. You would think we have a decent QB.

I even heard the "media" mention that awful word "Tannehill". Even if it was a whisper. I suspect it is hard to say something positive about someone you have been trashing for so long.

They should fire Boomer Esiason for saying that he was disappointed that his man Luck didn't get a 4th quarter comeback.

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