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Philbin: "We got a helluva team in the making'

INDIANAPOLIS -- Joe Philbin is a planner. He's a professor. He's logical. He's not big on emotion. Basically, he's a vulcan without the pointed ears.

He definitely showed the media no self-satisfaction in beating the Indianapolis Colts, 24-20, on the road on Sunday despite it being perhaps his best victory as a Dolphins coach. Indeed, near the end of an emtionless press conference, I asked him if he was even happy he won.

"Absolutely, yeah" he said looking away, "real proud of the guys. Can't you tell?"

His wife, standing off to the side watching the presser, was among those who laughed.

But just before that presser, in the confines of the locker room right after the game, Philbin actually said something that was interesting. Yes, he read his bullet points off his card to the players as he often does in his postgame speech -- told you he's professorial -- but when he turned away from his notes he announced to his players:

"We got a helluva team in the making!"

Read that again.

"We got a helluva team in the making!"

Now, it's one thing if that's outspoken Pete Carroll saying that because Carroll looks at a Kia and thinks it has a chance to be a helluva Cadillac. That also wasn't emotional Jimmy Johnson. That wasn't Rex Ryan bragging as has been his style.

That was understating, undemonstrative, stoic Joe Philbin going all bright future on us.

And that speaks ... No, that yells ... It yells volumes about what the coach thinks is the celing for his young team.

As I wrote for Monday's Miami Herald, the Dolphins aren't quite yet a certain playoff team. You shouldn't be buying Super Bowl tickets yet. But the Dolphins now are relevant. They are rolling and about to gain more attention because they finally have playmakers as the game-clinching sack by Phillip Wheeler (Courtesy a Joe Rimkus photo) showed.Luck sack

And they're growing and becoming a good team.

I'm an outsider and I can see it.

Philbin, on the inside, obviously thinks it.

This team is headed in a good direction. And by the time the journey is done, the Dolphins might indeed be "a helluva team."

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Great win for our Fins!For the first time since 2004,they have started 2-0;3-0 here we go!Just one criticism though;would someone please tell THill to either step-up in the pocket or scramble sometimes instead of standing still until the defense hits him?

Lets enjoy this victory. We fans and team deserve it. Nonetheless, lets be realistic. We have FIVE very very tough matches ahead of us and things can change dramatically.
So fans who will attend to the Dolphins games at Sun Stadium make fill the opponent that theyre not welcome, and that they have to pay the price to come to this field. Exactly as it was during Shula time.
As far as this team play as focus as they did yesterday, no concerns. If the defense play sharper (as in 2nd half), no concerns.
Five tests ! 3 recent SB winners, one contender and Buffalo is much better than people think. If we pull 3 wins out of those 5 games, it will mean that the Dolphins is playoff caliber. But the Dolphins have to play game by game. No rush, lets enjoy.

Why the sudden cloak dropping now? Hmm... But I think it's good. Nobody likes to talk to a nickname.

Welcome to the blog MADFIN because I dont recall your screen name.TY for acknowledging my post and I will post the same stats over and over and the same logic for ALL the games.I believe that these stats are a shorthand recordkeeping for winning in the NFL in 2013 where they throw the ball around the ball field(Spurrier)a lot more than previous eras.
I think you are referring to the 3rd quarter when you made reference to the series of running plays.One of the announcers stated before the 2nd half began that he thought Sherman would call more running plays in the game in an attempt to become more balanced.IMO I think the Dolphins will do most of their damage offensively with the pass(no surprise its 2013)but the OC has to get some runs on the tape so they show more possibilites to the defensive coordinators of the teams they will play.

Oh I gotchya Deaners. You're saying T Watt is looking for attention.

I know and I still gave it to him. Stupid me.

Look guys. Its true about that call TE got the ball punch out if not for that defensive play phins lose, but with that said this team is improving but the next two games will be our biggest challenge hands down, we see Let's go PHINS! we will find out for sure if this defense will be considered to be called a great defense right they are good defense, but great? We'll see.

Look guys. Its true about that call TE got the ball punch out if not for that defensive play phins lose, but with that said this team is improving but the next two games will be our biggest challenge hands down, we see Let's go PHINS! we will find out for sure if this defense will be considered to be called a great defense right they are good defense, but great? We'll see.

I don't know Dolphin Ray. I didn't respond to that post because I didn't agree. That game yesterday was FULL of big plays on both sides of the ball for both teams. If there was ever an example of a game that WASN'T defined by one big play I would have to say yesterdays was it.

You could point out at least 6 other game changing plays that had it not been for the player making it the entire match could have tilted the other way. Just my opinion on the matter.

Because seriously we can't sit here today and say Trusnik won that game for us when it was one big play in a game full of big plays. How about the defensive stand? How about Wheeler getting away from a block and sacking Luck on 4th down? Would that not be a bigger play considering it sealed the game? No biggy, everyone has their favorite plays I guess! :)

ETF,

I've been around a year or so. I post from time to time. Mostly reading and sifting thru a lot of stuff to get to some good analysis. I read P78 response to 2Watt negative comment......I felt compelled to respond today. Yes, I have read that Salguero has cleaned up this blog as of late and it's for the better, thank you for asking.

Got to go, enjoy the day everyone!

P78, I wonder how much time the likes of Johnson, bradshaw, and Long and the rest of them spend watching the NFL. Other than the games that are right in front of them I doubt they watch much. I don't think JJ foregoes a day of fishing to watch three games a day to see that he's completely up to date. These guys are living the dream as fans in suits getting paid to clown around and throw in analysis from teh games they actually watched. I'm sure JJ watches a lot more college than pro games judging by where his passions appear to lie.

Wheres J. Taylor, by the way ? Whens he going to be healthy ? We cannot afford to have our first two picks in half or null shape !

13-3

;)

Phins 78, it's all good.....I dunno, maybe Watt was only kidding....have a great day.

65%
4500
28/5
95 rtg
13-3
Divn Champs
Most Improved Player.

;)


Whoa - let's slow the roll just a bit - beat Atlanta at home and we can feel good about the first quarter of the season regardless of what we do in game four - but two games - eeeehhhh - just don't want to poke the jinx bear....

On media attention: obviously, we fans like to read positive stuff when our team is winning...but the players could care less. The true test IMO, is if they keep winning, they will get the attention. How will they handle it?. In the meantime, Check the power polls, if they keep winning, they will slowly rise.

I know and I still gave it to him. Stupid me.
Posted by: Phins78 | September 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM
lol.
bullseye 78,stupid u.
lol

THIS OFFENSE IS STILL GROWING AND WILL LOOK FANTASTIC BY PLAYOFF TIME....

Hey Mark I had a sec to check back and read your comment and you're probably right. I have to hand it to JJ though. He seemed to know what's going on in Miami and he made next Sundays game his matchup of the week and said Atlanta is in for a fight. I'll check back later

Lunch time over....back to work...ETF, have a great day.

65% of 2-0 teams make it 2 the p/o's.

Well, of all the analysts, he should have the best handle on what's going on here because it's right in his own backyard.

I expect Miami to give Atlanta a fight too... hopefully they pull off another one. Atlanta will get points and yards on our defense. Miami will have to push the envelope offensively. Atlanta is not very good on the o line or defensively so that should bode well for us ..

Miami favoured by 1.5 for you gamblers.... the hunters become the hunted.

78, i kno u dream 'bout me @ nite,
what does u'r wife say when u keep mumbling 2 watt 2 watt 2 watt 2 watt in u'r sleep?
lol.

2 watt.. thank you for the positive stat lol

I don't know about P78's wife but mine doesn't like it one bit ...

LOL at mark....mine doesn't like it either!!

go finssssssssss what a big game vs falcons will be. great test. lets hope the stadium is actually full and loud

it's plain to see that the fins are, without a doubt headed in the right direction, and this WILL be a HELL of a team, one more offseason should do it but...we could be a HELL of a team right now, and the ONLY thing that is viably absent is the FLAMES, or better put...some FIRE..take lamar miller for instance, his tougher running style(effort to stay on his feet) was visably noted but, that's what running backs are SUPPOSED to do so, WHERE'S THE FIRE?- take dion jordan, he had a grand oppourtunity to make a major impact and could have dealt a monster sack to andrew luck in the fourth quarter that could've somewhat justified his draft statis, but instead he lightly pushes luck who then scrambled for a first down...WHERE'S THE FIRE- then there's tyson clabo not even giving fight to a defensive end who jogs past him to level a hit on tannehill- and then(maybe a poor decision) by grimes who allows ty hilton to make a deep conversion as he layed out for the pick instead of just knocking it down...so, if we want a helluva team, philbin needs to bring the fire!

agree bud 2014 is the target year. pats already down though, we have legit shot this year

agree on some bud, clabo has looked bad. and most in here already know i hated that trade up to take dion. not a fan of him at all. bust of a pick imo, hope im wrong. any news on solia?

I kinda wish Trusnik had not knocked that ball out. Then we could have seen Tannehill drive us down for the winning score.

It was still a good play. Everyone played well. I was surprised we did not hear more from Wake. I think their LT just tackled him on every play.

All the pressure I saw on luck came up the middle. Our tackles and LB's played well.

Did anyone else think Sherman was crazy for calling three straight passing plays with just over 4 min. remaining?Colts had 2 time outs remaining Tanny threw one to (Hartline?) he went out of bounds 2 more incompletions and we took maybe 10-12 sec off the clock.I am not ultra consertative but we were pretty effective running,I thought he should have given ground game a chance and at least made colts burn there timeouts.Great Win GO Fins

FIRST 2-0 START SINCE 2010

Tanne has a chance to finally do something Henne never could: start 3-0. Only Tanne doesn't have the quality of coaching (Tony Soprano), Game Plan (BACKDOOR football) and Players (Ginn, Camarillo, Ricky, Ronnie) that Henne had to work with so I don't think he will do it.

i have no problems with those calls pevine, 4 mins ton of time

good lord henne is awful. couldnt even score vs oakland. neither henne or gabbert should even be in nfl. and now jack fans having a 3 hour and 16 min fiasco outside there stadium today calling for tebow to be signed. u want some free money take seattle -17 at home sunday vs jacksonville

WE'RE NOT BOTTOM TIER TEAM ANYMORE

I'm not sure yet if we're top tier or middle tier but we're definitely not bottom tier.

On another note...

Barry Jackson, in his column today, has some pretty interesting facts for ya:

Since 1990, 63% of teams that started 2-0 made the playoffs (119-188) [per ESPN]. 41% for teams that went 1-1 and 12% for teams that went 0-2. Tannehill had a QBR of 76.1 as a rookie, but is now 94.6 after two games. That puts him 15th in the league, almost edging out T. Romo and ahead of S. Bradford, M. Schaub and RGIII....

How about that?

great seeing wallace make big plays. and some of the catches hartline made were amazing. even clay has to be given credit, really stepping up. solid game by miller also. grimes is the man!

thill has been fantastic, no doubt. where all those fools ripping him now

db,
I know you're just baiting me so no thank you.
Playing for the worst team in NFL yesterday Henne:
-threw for 240 yds 1TD no Int
-92.7 QB rating
-65% completion

He put up exactly average NFL starting QB numbers for the worst team in the NFL.

If you don't like Henne that is no surprise but please do not use him in a sentence with gabbert as if they are both equal. Henne's numbers for his career are almost identical to Tanne's and Henne has never had the coaching/support players that Tanne has.

henne was so bad yesterday it was painful reminded me of how bad this team used to be. finally have a real qb and its only his 2nd year! so pumped

just one additional thought here, i was never a big sam satelle fan, however i did like donald thomas, so tell me how two miami cast-offs(satelle+thomas) spearhead an offensive line that play in and play out formed a perfect half moon wall around andrew luck, allowing him a perfect pocket to step into his throws...does anyone have an answer?...and is lamar miller and our other running back so secure in their jobs that they are allowed to give the minimal amount of such effort neccessary to remain on the team?...with the recent display from sateele fresh in my mind i can't help wandering where JONUS GRAY is right now...i know he'll give a 100% if asked to tote the rock!

The only commentator that's giving the Dolphins any love is:

Jaws! Ron Jaworski, when asked which team (Miami or the Chiefs) at 2-0 is a surprise, replied "The Chiefs". Later on, he mentioned that he had already picked the Dolphins to be the surprise team this year and believes they will take the AFC East crown.

bud indys oline is awful, thomas out for season now also

Bleacher Report has us at #11 in the league for what it's worth. They like most of the media don't believe it's for real yet.

Posted by: Darkoak | September 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I'll take it! 12 teams qualify for the Post-Season so 11 gets us in! I know it's early but I have a feeling we will be in contention in those Div. games in Dec. for the Div. crown.

div is easily within reach, pats look awful

Anyone else notice when Miller scored his TD to go up 14-0...the cameraman showed Philbin striding down the sideline with a look of:

"Just like we drew it up"

There is a precision to which Philbin does things...very disciplined. No over the top excitement on a 54 yd FG (Tony Sparano are you listening)?

Quietly getting it done is IMO the best approach loud-mouthed coached rarely succeed in the NFL.


Do you remember commenting that you'd like to continue our "Getting Wallace Involved" convo?

I included the Bubble screen in a list of plays to possibly use with Wallace.

So, when Wallace's First TD Catch as a Dolphin was an 18 yard bubble screen, I thought of you and our conversation immediately-LOL!

I pictured us doing a couple of shots and High Fiving in the "New Era"!

Posted by: odinseye | September 16, 2013 at 01:47 AM

That was the one trick pony convo which I was a part of and had a private little chuckle as well when Wallace scored.

fg at end of half was huge. great drive by thill and sturgis is da man

odin forgot to mention in his dream u guys were spooning

Thats romantic!

db,
You can pretend that Tanne's 94 rating puts him in the hof and Henne's 92 rating disqualifies him from the NFL; but it just kinda makes you look bad.

Philbin is a pro. First with the challenge yesterday, then taking timeouts to get the right calls in for the defense at the end of the game.

I just can't say enough about my confidence in our coach. We may not set the world on fire this year and it's possible they miss the playoffs. But this guy knows what he's doing and deserves a couple more years to install his program no matter what happens.

Posted by: Phins78 | September 16, 2013 at 12:02 PM

In summation competent play calling, clock managment ect... Call me crazy and we'll NEVER know but crossed my mind right before the half with a little under 2 Min. to go when Indy got the 1st and goal at about the 1/2 yardline that we burned our T.O. to allow our O the extra possession with time after pending go ahead Indy score (thought we may have let them get it on 1st down to conserve time given ease with which Bradshaw scored) That drive before the half was nicely executed and Sturgis has become MONEY (1st since O.Mare) with great range, kids got a cannon leg!

I just pointed a point in the game that turn the momentum our way, of course there was big plays all over the place, but that incomplete at the goal line was the biggest play IMO by the defense..but yes all around great win, even though I still don't like JI the lap dog and old fart Sherman predictable
Play calling, just my opinion guys. No disrespect to you fans or dolphin players much respect for all of you guys!!
LETS GO PHINS.

I just pointed a point in the game that turn the momentum our way, of course there was big plays all over the place, but that incomplete at the goal line was the biggest play IMO by the defense..but yes all around great win, even though I still don't like JI the lap dog and old fart Sherman predictable
Play calling, just my opinion guys. No disrespect to you fans or dolphin players much respect for all of you guys!!
LETS GO PHINS.

Great win for our Fins!For the first time since 2004,they have started 2-0;3-0 here we go!Just one criticism though;would someone please tell THill to either step-up in the pocket or scramble sometimes instead of standing still until the defense hits him?

Posted by: Finsfan Ralph | September 16, 2013 at 12:51 PM
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Please look up to see how the FINS started in 2004....here is a hint...it wasn't 2-0....

here is the answer...it was 0-6...

2 watt....

use your computer for more than a p o r machine...

no way two seperate people make the same ignorant mistake...

not laughing with you...laughing @ you...

King,

I have been reading Armando for years, do I agree with him all the time? No, it's football...I posted like 3 times years ago when the blog started, but got my arse flamed so bad I emailed Armando requesting a flag button for unnecessary roughness.

Never heard back, so I shut it down and never posted again. This time in all this excitement, I had to get back involved. Many of you all are huge Fin Fans like myself that really have the passion for the game of football and I enjoy reading your comments, I'm always learning from you all.

Let's always keep this thing positive no matter what another says, in truth I haven't been this excited since the coaching days of JJ. I think a lot of you feel the same and football seems fun again, instead of a miserable experience!

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