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Run game needs more chances to be explosive

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin wants more explosive runs out of the running game.

“I would like to see a little more explosiveness. We had one explosive run. They all count. I’ve been around the game long enough to know every single run counts. Both sides of the football, you can play great run defense on 25 snaps, but if you give up a 75-yarder or 70-yarder, you are still giving up five-and-a-half yards a run. They all count, but I would like to have a little more consistency in terms of the explosive (plays)," the coach said this week.

"If we can get two to three a game every single game as opposed to none against Cleveland, two against Indy and one (against Atlanta) ... that would be good."

This also would be good:

Run the ball enough to actually get explosive runs.

The Dolphins last week against Atlanta ran the ball 15 times. And two of those were scrambles by quarterback Ryan Tannehill.

So offensive coordinator Mike Sherman called 40 passing plays (five of those turned into sacks) and 13 running plays against the Falcons. That is nearly a 4-1 pass-run ratio. Weeeeee, wide open football time.

The week before, Sherman was a bit more balanced although nowhere near a 60-40 split of pass to run. The Dolphins called 41 pass plays and 22 run plays against the Colts, which is nearly a 2-1 pass-run ratio.

This isn't a critique of the Dolphins offensive balance (or lack of balance) because they pass the football so often. The NFL is, after all, about passing the football. I like that Miami is a passing team. It beats being stuck in the 1970s.

But I also like expectations of the run game to be balanced against the reality of what is happening on the field. One cannot expect more explosive plays when one's offensive coordinator isn't calling very many runs.

If Philbin and the Dolphins are expecting more than one big running play per game and, more specifically, expecting more production from Lamar Miller, the number of opportunities have to go up.

Miller has carried the football 32 times so far this season. He's averaging 4.2 yards per carry. But anyone who watched Miller at the University of Miami knows his typical game would go something like this:

Five-yard gain. Three-yard gain. Four-yard gain. One-yard gain. One-yard loss. Three-yard gain. 55-yard gain. Six-yard gain. And so on.

He would usually deliver a big run in the game and sometimes two. But he needed carries to get there. He needed work and opportunities to break out.

The most Miller has carried the ball for the Dolphins in one game so far? Fourteen times versus Indianapolis. He averaged 4.9 yards per carry that game. His eight carries against Atlanta returned a whopping 7.8 yards per carry average.

Miller averaged more yards per rush (7.8) than the Dolphins averaged passing yards per dropback (5.9). Indeed, he even averaged more yards than quarterback Ryan Tannehill averaged per pass attempt (6.7).

Why does this matter? No, it's not because anyone is pounding on a table demanding Miller carry the ball more often. It's definitely not because anyone wants the Dolphins to become an out-of-step-with-modern-times running team.

It's because running the football often enough to succeed promises so many dividends.

Running the football enough gives you a balanced offense. Suddenly the safeties that cheat toward receivers Mike Wallace or Brian Hartline have to play straight.

"It opens things up for Mike and those guys to stretch the field and make some big plays," offensive tackle Tyson Clabo said.

Running the football enough increases the offense's time of possession. It's hard to win the game when the other team has the football more. The Dolphins did it the past two weeks, but that is tempting fate.

Running the football enough helps your defense. This is particularly important against elite quarterbacks such as Drew Brees. If the Dolphins are able to go into the Superdome Monday night and run the ball effectively enough to keep Brees mostly on the sideline, the chances of giving up more plays to Brees on defense decrease. And that's a good thing for Miami.

Running the football enough helps in cold weather. The running game is not as affected by tough climes as much as the passing game. November and December are coming and teams that can run well have a built-in small advantage. (And when you consider every venue in the AFC East is open to the elements, every little bit helps).

Running the football more helps you to, well, run the football better. The Dolphins need to do it to get better at it.

"I think our run game has gotten better every week," Clabo said. "We were more consistent the week before and last week we had the big run. I think we're working to improve week to week. We just have to do it."

Finally, running the football enough is a weapon in the playoffs. Yes, I said the p-word. The Dolphins are 3-0. Seventy-four percent of teams that start 3-0 make the playoffs. It's not wrong to improve a vital facet of the team now that will be important in the playoffs.

My suggestion on how to maximize the Dolphins running game?

Obviously running it more is a theme here. But splitting the runs more intelligently might be almost as good.

So far this season Miller has carried the ball only nine times more than Daniel Thomas (32-21). The two backs are close to splitting carries. Well, perhaps it's time to not split carries. Thomas is averaging 3.1 yards per gain and his long gain is 12 yards. He's not typically going to come up with a 50- or 60-yard run.

So stop splitting the carries.

Give Miller more carries. Give Thomas fewer carries. Make Thomas the true change-of-pace back rather than a near-equal partner in the backfield. Defer, as the statistics and the eyes suggest, to the better breakaway threat.

"I think we are making some progress," Philbin said. "We certainly have some room to grow.”

Watch the video of Miller below to see what I told you about giving Miller more work:

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I'd like for us to run the ball on first down more often. There have been too many times that dropping back to pass on first time has resulted in 2nd and ten or a sack and 2nd and 15. We've done a great job of overcoming this so far, but I'd like to try to still avoid it.

I think the Dolphins have finally caught up to the rules and are a PASS first team.The template for play calling is the Indy game so far after only three games.In the game against Atlanta they were behind the entire game until there were 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter when they tied it so Sherman could not worry about balance he needed to score every time the Dolphins had the ball.
I think the running game will improve with time and barring injury they let the players that have earned a starters role start and with continuity will become more of a unit instead of individuals playing together.
I STILL believe to this day that Parcells drafting Jake Long with the #1 pick in the draft was a big mistake and he did it more to show that he was worth the $14 million that was paid to him as a football czar.I believe that offensive lineman although they could be the best at their positions have to work more as a unit to be effective in their role on their teams and to begin to value their talents as individuals is good for offensive lineman and their agents but not to the salary structure of NFL teams and the team chemistry.

The problem is that since joining the Dolphins, Jeff Ireland has used 19 draft picks on skill position players yet doesnt have one top playmaker to show from those 19 picks.

Great teams are able to change their game plan on the fly, or play to the other teams weaknesses. That may mean running the ball a bit more on the road for crowd control or going into the 2 minute offense whenever they want. No matter what I see this team being able to do most anything they want to do, offensively or defensively by mid season, just need to keep hangin' the W's up until that time.

When the o-line gets younger and faster we can run the ball or pass. That may be a pipe dream. It is hard to put together a team that has all aspects at the same time.

Posted by: Everybody Knows | September 27, 2013 at 01:58 PM

Only because teams are HELL BENT on establishing their respective pass games. A balanced attack was the KEY to the GREAT'S of the DYNASTY (Pitt,S.F.,Dallas) ERA & something that seems lost on today's teams even though STATISTICALLY still a very relevant part of fielding a WINNING SB TEAM in the parody (FA) ERA. The onset of FA in 93 doesn't really count but if you look forward to the late 90's it was Terrell Davis carrying the Broncos to two Titles right at the time the rules changes (League mandate to make games more high scoring) started to shift philosophy or so most think?

Since 2000 9 SB's have been won by teams with balanced attacks including the high wire act Rams under Vermiel! In their win after the 99 Season in 2000 SB they established Faulk which in turn opened up the pass game during the Playoffs remember they were in a low scoring game Vs. the Bucs and Shaun King to play in that SB and in the BIG GAME played a ball control // field position game Vs. the Titans. Then in their following SB new H.C. Martz inexplicably forgot Faulk was on the roster.

In contrast in that SB the Pats needed the run to take pressure of then VERY GREEN Brady! They did it with Antwain Smith and 3rd down phenom Kevin Faulk. In their next one more of the same while some remember the BIG PLAYS Vs. Carolina everybody forgets the RB's on both sides did alot of the work with Foster and Davis playing big for the Panthers. The other Pats Title featured Corey Dillon with now everybody only remembering the NO-NAME WR's. The other SB Champions with multiple Titles were the very balanced Steelers and Giants. By the way the Giants in their 1st win over the Undefeated Pats exposed the one dimensional Pats who for a while more resembled the Marino Dolphins than anything else until Belichik drafted Vereen and Ridley to establish the run again, make NO mistake!

In last Yrs. SB both teams were more balanced than some here are giving them credit for. The 49ers apparently forgot that themselves till last night.

You can get as CUTE as you LIKE but at the END OF THE DAY there is only ONE CONSTANT in the NFL and thats that gimmick O's don't WIN TITILES except for the occasional anomaly like the 2010 Pack but even they needed rookie Starks to catch fire that Yr. in the Reg. Season final Vs. the Bears in order to qualify and th reason Rodgers has been left watching the SB since, JMHO!

Actually, if Miller gets going, Tannehill will take ANOTHER GIANT step forward. One hand washes the other in this instance and you all know it's true.

Tannehill's PROVEN he can do it, with or without proper blocking(Ahem....the O-Line.....AGAIN).

If we can get the run game going, Tannehill's going to be that much more effective. That's when the play action fakes to Miller will FINALLY FREEZE opposing defenses long enough to get Wallace FULLY involved.

I love the fact that we're a passing team and that's what we need to be. But better Blocking up front and getting Miller going is what we need to evolve!

One hand washes the other and I think it's ALL on the O-Line at this point! Getting the run game going means Tannehill/Sherman can pick and choose their spots! It opens everything up and that will make us that much better OVERALL!

Monte, Tannehill, Hartline, Clay, Miller, Sims, even D Thomas has 2 TD's this year. Trolls have no material right now.

This young team will continue to get better and better every week. Look at the roster and see how young we really are, Starks is the oldest with 10 yrs. exp. than you got a couple guys in the 5-7 yr. range. Most of them are in the 3 yr. or less range. Expect this team to be well rounded by the 10th week. 1 more good draft and this team will be one of the top teams for years to come.

Actually, if Miller gets going, Tannehill will take ANOTHER GIANT step forward. One hand washes the other in this instance and you all know it's true.

Posted by: odinseye | September 27, 2013 at 03:44 PM

My point exactly in my 3:39 post while high wire acts are nice to watch during the Reg. Season as Miami Fans we KNOW BETTER THAN MOST outside of San Diego in the 80's that the ONE CONSTANT in the NFL is that balance wins Titles, period! That and establishing dominance in the trenches, the latter being the main reason Brady doesn't have 4 to 5 rings because Matt Light for all his Pro Bowls and accolades was a turnstile Vs. the Giants in 07 and 2011!

Fin4,

Are we talking about the same thing here........?

You and your Rain Man memory showing off again-LOL.

Giving specific's, names, teams.......Etc, etc.....

Why don't you include Times, Dates and Places Too-LOL!

Just kidding with you, but DAMN Bro-LOL!!!!

JPAO,...Bingo, that's it!

"The best way for the Fin's to improve their running game is to change their schemes, play calling and timing."

Read his post closely, that's exactily how we run. Very predictable and oblivious, we need to do more misdirection with the RB's, maybe more swing out timing passes, maybe get that FB Clutts guy to catch out of the back field (who the saints would not be expecting) have the O Line do more pulling (not sure if their athletic enough, Calbo looks like he plays like a statue at times).

Need to be a lot more creative with RB's who CAN catch, get them more involved in the short pass game. Run a draw or two, heck run the freaking "Statue of Liberty," anything to not be so predictable with the run. Or run the damn "Wish Bone" with Clutts and Thomas!

You know, a "Flea-Flicker" to Wallace comes to mind with the ball fed back to THill from Miller. Image that?

In the Cleveland and Atlanta games there were way too many no gain or negative yardage carries. I suspect the play calling reflects that. When Miami can consistently gain 3 or 4 yards on runs and break a few longer then I would expect the play calling to be balanced. Until then I am okay with unbalance.

Giants Stink, I fully understand what you say. It's not like we're passing every single play, just that our running game places us in a passing situation 90% of the time.

Even when we run 1st and 2nd down, usually it's 3rd and 4-5 for the 1st down 90-95% of those times.

For 2013:

Lamar Miller

32 carries 132yds 4.2 ypc 1td

Miller's long carries for the year;

Gm 1 5yds
Gm 2 14yds
Gm 3 49yds

3 of Miller's 32 carries have resulted in 49 + 14 + 5 = 58yds (58 / 3 = 19.3 ypc).

19.3ypc is great for 3 carries. The problem is the other 29 caries for 74yds. 74 / 29 = 2.6ypc. So, 1st down it's 2nd and 7, 3rd down and 5.

So, 3 / 32 = 94%. 94% of Miller's carries he averages less than 3ypc(2.6ypc). Sure, Miller is an explosive run waiting to happen. Problem is, to even get a 5yd run from him is happening only 6% of the time he has the ball.

The other 94% of the time it's less than 3ypc(2.6ypc). This in itself makes it extremely difficult to give him more run opportunity. 94% of the time he places you in a PASSING SITUATION. You can't run when you've GOT TO PASS.


Fu(k Brees.

You don't play scared you play your game.

Running the ball in the playoffs?

You said in this same story how its a passing league.

It's OK to Nit pick its what you do but come on.

Is it the pass or is it the run?

I agree you want to keep them guessing.

But I'm good with what the are doing.

They put Tanny man to man against Luck and Ryan and we came out on top.

Drew Bress is up next then Flacco I want Tanny to stand toe to toe with them. Let's see if he can carry the weight.

When we play the games after the bye then we can work on running more.


Phibin & Ierland blew this one. They should have signed a veteren back who knows how to block for the QB, See's the holes to run through, catches passes out of the backfield and sets an exsample and become the tudor. Bradshaw or Mcgaee would have been perfect. The games going to fast for both Miller and Thomas. On the road they even seem intimadated. oh how I yearn for veteren leadership in the backfield.

King,

No disrespect, but thanks God I took logic in college to understand this...

I believe that offensive lineman although they could be the best at their positions have to work more as a unit to be effective in their role on their teams and to begin to value their talents as individuals is good for offensive lineman and their agents but not to the salary structure of NFL teams and the team chemistry.

Got it!
Da Bourbon helps me.

Shuan, you don't want to either run or pass more on 1st down. You don't want to create TENDANCIES for the defense to exploit.

1st downs are probably better served 50% pass 50% run. It keeps the defenses guessing. When you have a defense guessing, you have better chance to keep the defense on it's heels.

I would only run more than pass on 1st down if we had a power run game that forced defenses to put 8-9 in the box even on first down. That would be so great, because play action on 1st down would open Tannehill or Wallace for deep td throws.

Right now as a unit we do not run block well enough to run more than we pass on first exclusively.

Phins 78....

I read the article on Grimes wife...

I wanted to see how hot she was...

Just kidding with you, but DAMN Bro-LOL!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | September 27, 2013 at 03:58 PM

Like you don't remember alot of it, LMAO!

Look I happen to agree here just look at the SB Winners Historically from the Dynasty ERA to the present parody ERA and the ONE CONSTANT is that teams with balance on O and steady D's always beat the flashy one trick pony's. Count them down in this ERA from more or less 3 Yrs. after the FA ERA began till they really began enforcing the pass D rules in or around the Mid-90's and analyze those teams.

In 96 in Favre's one and only run he had Dorsey Levens and Edgar Bennett then came Elway with Davis knocking them off in route to 2 Titles! People tend to look back and think well it was Favre and Elway but forget what those guys were like come SB time without more balance. K.Warner needed Faulk BIG TIME in their SB run with Gruden giving the perennially run oriented Bucs a semblance of balance with the pass in their SB.

Brady NEEDED his run game in his 3 SB's as his last two appearances showed. Big Ben had it and Eli had it in spades as well with Big Bro Zen Master Peyton still looking for his elusive 2nd Title while assaulting the All-Time record book ect.... I'll say it right now if the Broncos now without there LT can't establish Ball and Moreno come Playoff time they won't win the BIG ONE!

It's why as I posted yesterday have an eye on the OL were Ireland hasn't looked to extend anybody although he's starting 3 2014 FA's in the group with his best OL due in 2015. The pass attack is addressed enough to challenge now comes the OL and a deeper run core group to truly threaten with a SB, again JMHO!!!!!

Oops, meant Hartline in my upper post.

fin4life, balance is great. But, those sb teams you mentioned had both great run blocking olines and the rb's to compliment them. Even Dorsey Levins was a proven quality rb.

Our run game problem is part oline, part rb's can't make 1st guy miss or break tackles. Hopefully as the season goes on, he oline gets a little better at run blocking, and our rb's get a little better at breaking some tackles and occasionally making the first defender miss.

Actually FINS 78....upon further review....his wife looks good....and she seems to have a personality to boot...which makes for a FUN woman....

There was NOTHING controversial about any of the tweets I read....just somebody expressing their right...to express themselves....

I'd hit it...

noreastdolfan,

Agreed. I think we should have showed Leach the Bejamins, he's a great veteran and he also catches well. We would have been really dangerous with him and Miller in the back field, but it's about youth and the CAP with Ireland. And I'm not doubting him or Philbin, they got their reasons.

Posted by: Sam I Am | September 27, 2013 at 04:08 PM

Sam you make a very good point and NO DENYING IT! But in alot of those run plays you mention especially in Cleveland we seemed to abandon it altogether. I understand were playing to our strength and don't have a problem with what Sherman is doing some forget Farve's best stat Yrs. were with Sherman where they were a ridiculous 4th & 26 play away from hosting the NFC Title game when McNabb hit Freddie Mitchell in Philly. He isn't a fossil and has thus far managed Tannehill extremely well but the lack of establishing/dictating the run will bite us in Dec. games in the Northeast. FWIW I think were still a draft/FA period away were we address the soon to be vacated LG,RG & RT Positions while adding a bigger bruiser to the run game via the draft.

Mando:
The NFL is, after all, about passing the football. I like that Miami is a passing team. It beats being stuck in the 1970s.

...the 1970's is the last time we actually won the Superbowl, so I would love to be stuck back in the 70's!

The Saints haven't beaten any teams that are as good as the Fins. TB, ATL, & AZ - big deal! No worries. Should be a great game! Miami wins: 31-27.

The ground game is suffering due to below-average line play, and predictable play-calling. It has improved a bit each game, thus far. I think Miller should get 20 carries in this upcoming game. Thomas can handle the short stuff. And why wasn't Vontae Leach signed?

Armando,

Yes, Millers runs at UM are very impressive and I would love to see him run like that as a Fin. There's only one problem in applying that thought...look at the holes he's running through. Heck, you yourself could be running through those HUGE holes and lanes, drunk for that matter!

I just don't think our current O Line can create holes and lanes anywhere near what UM was providing Miller. I see a complete restructure of the O Line come off season, only Pouncy and Cog's (cause he's a nasty veteran). The others are on notice, they just don't seem athletic enough to run traps, etc.

Oh, one more thing...not sure if I mentioned this already. But can you PLEASE enlighten us about the true name of the practice bubble, is it still named after the "Great Satan," or is that just the reporters being cute? PLEASE don't make me ask the idiot at the SS. Inquiring FIN minds needs to know.

Leach wasn't signed cause he wanted too much money and really wanted to go back to baltimore. I do agree with some of the play calling being predictable, all you have to do is create some imaginative screen plays. This will help with slowing down the other teams pass rush, I only think i've seen 2 or 3 screen plays this year and 1 of them went for a touchdown to Wallace.

And why wasn't Vontae Leach signed?

Posted by: Jj | September 27, 2013 at 04:49 PM

Ross is too cheap to sign Vontae. He wont even repair his own stadium.

Jj,

Not signing Leach, I believe he wanted a long term deal. 4 years @ 4-5 Mil per year, which is what Bush wanted. Philbin & Ireland are going with youth and saving the CAP, we have some major re-signings next year. But I would have loved to see him a Fin!

D.Thomas will probably being ending his contract and moving on in the future. He's really no better then Luis Polite, who was automatic for 2-3 yards (yes, I know he was a FB) and they let him go. They seem to only use Thomas for the most part in short yard situations and the only way I see Thomas staying, is if he develops and becomes part of the WCO passing attack. Which is possible, he can catch. They just aren't giving him the passing touches, could have him swing out, wheel routes, dink & dunk to him, etc.

You're right about Ross and Leach Harmel, LMAO.

I agree with the personel under-usage for lack of a better word. All players are good at this level,what allows them to be successful at this level is a coach who can see each players most valuable abilities and put them in a position to succeed based on their strengths. I don't fully see that happening here completely yet. However I think they are on the right track and only time will tell how everybody pans out.

Miller will break a long run on the first quarter the key will be Pouncy pulling right and blocking the linebacker
This will keep the saints from overloading on DB and force them to keep at least 7 in the box and 8 at times and of course that means man to man coverage for our receivers so Wallace will have 2 or 3 catches for significant yards
It all hinges on Miller breaking for a long run in the first quarter
I think he will do it and that will be the key to our being 4-0

You know, a "Flea-Flicker" to Wallace comes to mind with the ball fed back to THill from Miller. Image that?

Posted by: MADFIN | September 27, 2013 at 04:01 PM
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MadFin,

I'll bet we have some kind of Flea Flicker deep, DEEP in the Play Book.

Daniel Thomas played Quarterback in High School and College.

And, running the ball opens up the Play-Action-Pass! That alone will give Tannehill a bit more time to throw the ball since it usually freezes the Linebackers and Safeties.

I agree Dave...where's the Hurry-Up Offense? That last drive by RT should show the coaches that that is the way to go with most teams. It could be used to wear out the Saints Defense. But, going too fast won't eat up the clock like running the ball. So, combine the two with a 1-back set. That should help both the run and the pass.

Brees is a lot like Tannehill in that he will eat you up if you blitz him too much. So, maybe Coyle should let Jordan drop back in coverage some. Jordan or Vernon need to be attached to the Saint's TE by the hip! Jam him on the line and disrupt his rhythm.

This is the toughest game so far and will either make a name for the Dolphins by finally earning some respect or the team will be seen as the same old boring Fins...

GO MIAMI!!!

go finsssssssssssss

Ross is to Cheap as Harmel is to Smart

If Philbin wants more explosive runs out of the running backs then he should feed them some bad burritos.

The pass attack is addressed enough to challenge now comes the OL and a deeper run core group to truly threaten with a SB, again JMHO!!!!!

Posted by: fin4life | September 27, 2013 at 04:18 PM
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I'm going to start calling you "The Professor".

Your posts are like History Class, only interesting per Subject Matter!

I'm totally serious and I'm totally agreeing with you on the need for Balance **AND** the ability to exploit Ball Control Football when necessary.

I like all the story lines and all. But you could've made your point with me simply by mentioning Marino and all the years we were unable to find balance with a run game.

Sammy Smith anyone........?

I believe Tannehill is "Getting There". Now we need a Run Game. The run game opens up the play action and from the way it's looking, that means: Dominance!

I'd hit it...

Posted by: Kris | September 27, 2013 at 04:25 PM
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DAMN Kris! You better hope Brent doesn't read this blog!

(But I would too - Shhhhhhhhh.......)

Who was Shula's O Coordinator during the Marino years? Shula couldn't do O play calling if his life depended on it. Shula was a D Coach primarily. Remember he had 2 great QBs who each called their own plays before he had Marino. Marino did not have the ability to call his own plays so that responsibility must have been left to the O Coach. And it was a steady diet of run, pass, pass, ,run, pass, pass ad infinitum. The downfall of Don Shula.

See, it is not enough to know History, you have to interpret it correctly.

Gary Stevens was the OC during The Marino Era.

Apparently, he couldn't make Chicken Salad out of Chicken Shyt!

2 WEEKS TO BASKETBALL SEASON!!!!!!!!!!

run, pass, pass. run, pass, pass. I did not vote on that Poll, but I know some People that said, Oh, I love Don Shula!

KING JAMES SAYS " NO MORE COLD WINTERS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!." HE"S STAYING IN MIAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would help drastically if the O-line blocked better.But I think everything will eventually come together. This is our year!

I think the Dolphins have finally caught up to the rules and are a PASS first team.The template for play calling is the Indy game so far after only three games.In the game against Atlanta they were behind the entire game until there were 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter when they tied it so Sherman could not worry about balance he needed to score every time the Dolphins had the ball.
I think the running game will improve with time and barring injury they let the players that have earned a starters role start and with continuity will become more of a unit instead of individuals playing together.
I STILL believe to this day that Parcells drafting Jake Long with the #1 pick in the draft was a big mistake and he did it more to show that he was worth the $14 million that was paid to him as a football czar.I believe that offensive lineman although they could be the best at their positions have to work more as a unit to be effective in their role on their teams and to begin to value their talents as individuals is good for offensive lineman and their agents but not to the salary structure of NFL teams and the team chemistry.

To the person(s) who complaining that we didn't keep Bush you should check his stats. You may be surprised to learn that Lamar Miller's running stats are betting than his. You should really check your information before shooting off your mouth.

To continue in the corporate world there is a structure for the type of job an individual is providing and the pay that is worth the job performed.Pro football is a corporation and a tax free one at that if you didnt know.When an offensive lineman begins to demand the same compensation as a QB or a productive WR or RB then I think there is no structure at all.Then the team will be at the mercy of the agents and the amount of money they can negoitiate out of a team.This is out of place in a TEAM sport it will be a battle of the highest bidder and the offensive lineman will jump to the team that bids the highest price when their rookie deal expires.I think when Parcells was coaching building an offensive line meant keeping the line together for more than 5 years.I dont see enough difference in the job an offensive lineman provides the corporation(the team)in 2013 than when the Big Tuna was winning championships,but the money paid to ALL the players is a lot different.
I think the veterans at any position should command a lot more than rookies who are unproven at the NFL level,but that is just my opinion and it is not reality.I would never pick an offensive lineman as my 1st pick in the draft but as we can all see that is NOT what is actually happening.

Where is Mike Gillislee?

Heard he was suppose to be better than L.Miller.

L.Miller is the Truth. But he needs carries to function.

L.Miller can get over 100yds on 2 plays. No other RB and only M.Wallace is the only player that can do the same on the team.

UM didn't have an O-Line when L.Miller played.

2 THINGS THE ABOVE VIDEO DEMONSTRATES (Which Dashi has posted over dozen times, good video so I won't hate)

SEPARATION AND THE ABILITY TO RUN DOWN THE MIDDLE.

Separation- Notice how L.Miller is even faster than guys who are ahead of him or have an angle on him. L.Miller is Fast!! 4.3-40 with a bum shoulder Fast!!

Running down the Middle- For a guy so fast he doesn't dance in the backfield. He is a North and South Runner that just happens to be Super fast. He managed to outrun a whole defense by taking it straight up the gut. Multiple times. LBs and Safeties couldn't catch him in a 5 yd area with a 3 yd head start.

I like all the story lines and all. But you could've made your point with me simply by mentioning Marino and all the years we were unable to find balance with a run game.

Posted by: odinseye | September 27, 2013 at 06:38 PM

I was answering a post that said that in the pass happy FA ERA teams don't have balance and win anyway and that's just not true, some here either to young or don't remember! I'm pretty sure you remember that in the Mid-90's there was a drop off in TV viewing that led to a Sorts Illustrated article about the game being boring and the Basketball explosion in the Jordan ERA ect...

This led Tagliabue (with Owners fearing losses in their next TV deals) to address it. At that time the rules already stated you couldn't jam past 5 Yds or interfere/impede with a WR's ability (direct line) to the ball. The rule was there and has been there since Don Shula and the Competition committee put it there in 1978! Back then it was commonly referred to as the Mel Blount rule, as an Older fan of the game like myself you must remember? You know that teams complained about how physical Blount was (Shula chief among them) with WR's given the 6'3"/230 Pd. Blount would absolutely mug guys at the line and in many instances chuck them to the ground.

Blount said it wouldn't affect his ability to stop the League's best and proceeded to back it up in the last 2 Pitt S.B.'s of the 70's cementing his place in NFL History as one of the premier CB's of all time for me and player because of physical similarity I hoped Sean Smith could be. I know I make a couple of points per sometimes but bare with me because with all that said you know as well as I do that when attendance drops off all Tags really did was ENFORCE a rule already in place LOOOONG before!

He told the Refs to call it tighter, it wasn't something new with passing at quite a premium in the 80's with some teams as well and those teams just like today's teams lose the SB's they play because when Playoff time comes and the competition for that ring ratchets up a few levels you better be able to do both while controlling the line. While Tags may have caused a spike in scoring the old adage remained when it was win or go home time separating the pretenders from the contenders. In the last 12 Yrs. 7 Championships between Pitt, G-Men and the Pats prove that gimmicks are nice but balance has, does and always will win Titles.

Miller has been somewhat dissapointing. He barely beat out Thomas who's just terrible. I thought Miller should have been clearly superior and he isnt.

Dashi,

..."UM didn't have an O-Line when L.Miller played." uh???

Did you watch the same UM video Armando posted, Dude both you and I could get through those HUGE holes and lanes while running drunk. There is no way in heaven that our current O Line is creating space for Miller like that, the Gaps the UM line was creating would make any good (and miller is good) RB, well run good. Specially with Millers SPEED.


Odin,

Yes there must be a flea-flicker, statue of liberty, or Nebraska goose egg play (ever see that play? ball just sits there on the ground and gets picked up, you got to see it...maybe on YouTube?) somewhere DEEP in the play book abyss somewhere. Sherman just needs to remember what page it's on in a 750 page play book, then execute it. This is the game for that!

Odin,

It was called the Fumblerooskie, Nebraska ran it to perfection. Even ran it against UM for a TD, Colorado for a first down, etc. You Tube it, pretty creative play. Of course I would highly doubt you would see it in the pros, but it would be fun trying!

Fin4,

I think my post came out wrong. I enjoy ALL of your posts. We don't always agree 100%(but I think we're close-LOL), but I **ALWAYS** look forward to hearing what you have to say.

And yes I do remember! I remember Blount as well. He was a Beast.

MADFIN,

FSU under Bowden ran the fumblerooskie as well if memory serves but yeah the Cornhuskers got us good with it in the 83 Championship under Schnellenberger. By the way Denver OT Orlando Franklin was a player who blocked for Miller at the U.

Of course I would highly doubt you would see it in the pros, but it would be fun trying!

Posted by: MADFIN | September 27, 2013 at 11:08 PM
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You never know, I heard Chip Kelly just might try ANYTHING-LOL!

Fin4,

I think my post came out wrong.

And yes I do remember! I remember Blount as well. He was a Beast.

Posted by: odinseye | September 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM

I didn't take it the wrong way at all Brudda, you were making a point about the need for balance at the same time I was explaining that rules changes aside it's still necessary to win SB's while adding examples.

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