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Tannehill not going to 'force' Wallace the football

Everything's cool between Ryan Tannehill and his alpha receiver Mike Wallace.

Yes, Wallace was upset after Sunday's victory that he caught only one pass, was targeted only five times and didn't get so much as a glance from Tannehill in the first half. But that has passed now, Tannehill said Wednesday.

“Yes, Mike was obviously in a tough spot at the end of that game but, everything is 100 percent normal in the locker room," Tannehill said. " He’s great, practicing hard every day, joking around. He’s his same old self, so we are looking forward to getting back on the field this week."

Well, if he's his same old self, he's going to want the ball on Sunday agaisnt Indianapolis. Coaches know this. Tannehill knows this.

Except that Tannehill feels no need to necessarily feed Wallace going forward.

"I’m going to play the quarterback position the way the coaches install the plays," Tannehill said. "I’m going to go through the reads just like they install it. We’re going to try and get him the ball when he’s in the play, but we’re not going to force him the ball."

This is very interesting to me. You see, this suggests Wallace simply wasn't in the play, so to speak, in the first half Sunday. But he suddenly got in the plays in the second half when he was targeted five times, including on the first play of the half?

So why not just get the guy in the play earlier?

It'll be interesting to monitor going forward.

It'll also be interesting to see how Tannehill handles a receiver with a petulant side. You'll remember Chad Henne kind of struggled to deal with Brandon Marshall, not that I blame him at times. Marshall was at times a handful.

Marino argued and exchanged curses with the Marks Brothers, even on the field, but the three knew they counted on each other for success and had a great relationship off the field.

So does Tannehill have the make up to handle Wallace when he's demanding more targets, more attention?

“Well you should know, receivers are always open, and I’ve been there before too," said the Dolphins quarterback and former college receiver. " No, these guys do a good job of being realistic on the sidelines.  They’ll tell me exactly how the defense is playing them, what routes they like, what they think is there and that’s a big key. If a guy's just coming back saying I’m open on every play it’s tough to sift through that and find out what’s really good and we can implement during the game. When guys are truthful it really helps, and I think they’ve done a good job so far."

It also helps when the quarterback is the clear leader and the receiver understands that.

I must tell you, I saw some good signs from Tannehill in that regard Sunday. There were two snapshots that showed he's the leader and he has the respect of his teammates.

First, there was a moment when left guard Richie Incognito did what he sometimes does and got into debate shall we say with an opposing lineman. It had the potential to lead to pushing and shoving and a flag.

Tannehill stopped it by telling Incognito, an older player, to get back to the huddle.

"Yeah, he got into it a little bit," Tannehill said. "That’s my job on the field, to keep my guys focused on what we’re trying to do, which is go down and score.  Obviously, football is an intense game, there’s a lot of emotion.  Guys are going to get into it here and there but when its sidetracking us from what we’re trying to do, we ‘ve just got to focus, lock in and get ready for the next play."

Tannehill was a little harsher with receiver Rishard Matthews. The second-year receiver was getting hot and arguing with a Cleveland defender in the second half when Tannehill seemingly had enough and cursed out his teammate while demanding he get off the field.

The words were heard on television.

And off the field Matthews went.

"I forget what yard line we were on, but if we get a 15 yard penalty right there, it’s a long field goal and if we kick that field goal right there we put it at 13 points, a two touchdown game," Tannehill said. "We really didn’t need a dumb penalty right there and I just tried to get him off the field the best way I could."

Those are signs of leadership. We'll see if Mike Wallace will follow.

 

 

 

 

 

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Not saying Wallace be Patient. Dashi is saying BE PATIENT ON THE DEEP BALL.

I still expect Wallace to get 6-8 catches this week. I just don't expect T-Hill to be throwing 50 yd Bombs. We can win the game this week without Wallace connecting Deep.

I see the Run game as a Bigger Need This Week. Way Bigger. We need to get that moving to make this offense successful.

Dashi see what happened when Brady had Moss. He broke all sorts of records.

Move wallace before the snap to get better idea of what defense is going to do. Harder to cover when already moving. Need to have faith people. Best this team has looked in a long time. Been a guppy fan forever, and will never change no matter what the outcome is! As I have always said to my wife, beat the bills twice (I hate the bills), jets twice, and split withpats, and it is always good!!!!!

The development of a relationship between QB and WR beyond the receiver simply saying "Throw me the ball!" will go a long way towards both Tannehill's and Wallace's development as players and teammates.

It's early, and we don't know everything, however it sounds like a good formula for success is being devised in what Tannehill is saying.

Wallace can be bummed if he's not getting the ball, but as long as he works with Tannehill on a gameplan...he'll get his opportunities, I am sure.

Let's hope other teams play that soft, 2 deep zone Cleveland did. Hartline and Gibson absolutely tear apart those zones. Even Clay was wide open more than once. He may have only caught one ball, but Wallace's effect was very apparent.
I also expect Dion Sims to get more playing time, esp. when you consider Clay and Egnew are not good blockers.

Id rather see Wallace have a 100 yrd game in December and Jan. than last week

Andrew Luck provides the Colts with the biggest advantage on offense versus his Miami counterpart Ryan Tannehill. The two quarterbacks are actually somewhat similar in style, but Luck is just a little bit more aware, a little bit better under pressure, and a little more elusive with the ball in his hands.

http://bleacherreport.com/

I'm still waiting for the first Wallace crossing pattern. This guy is lethal when you hit him with the ball and he has momentum

I don't get this 'deep ball accuracy' that everyone talks about. Are people saying that Tannehil doesn't have the arm strength, cause he does. Deep ball plays are low percentage plays by nature, otherwise teams would do it all day long. For them to work there has to be great time between the receiver and the WR. Not sure Joe Haden, one of the top corners in the league, is the guy to be picking on.

Anyways, its kind of a lame argument in my opinion. Looks good on TV and it keeps the defences honest but not sure it's the key to winning games.

Against the colts, Tannehill needs to come out strong throwing the ball to Wallace AND every other receiver. Spreading the ball all over. Yes, keep Wallace happy, throw to him, even short passes. Then open up the run. Up the middle with Thomas, sweeps with Miller.

Wallace HATES TanneBust already! Its Marshall-Henne 2.0

Craig M,

Tannehill has a great arm but he missed guys wide open at times too many times last year. I truly believe the 34 yard throw to Hartline was not a throw Tannehill could make last season. But he nailed it and I think from what I've seen in the preseason and game 1, a QB who's taking the next step which is a great thing for us Dolphins fans.

tannehill is good at medium range passes, but that is about the only thing he is good at


The dolphins should open the next 4 games with Wallace going deep early and often in the first half of each game. In this way, the dolphin can do what the patriots are already doing; that is putting the game out of reach IN THE FIRST HALF!

Posted by: bond, david bond | September 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM


Uhh...the Patriots having the best QB in history and one of the top coaches in history are the reasons the Patriots domnate.

Andy,

Agreed about last year but i believe people are over-rating this fact. Tannehill can win in this league, with that defence by playing smart, high percentage football and prolonging drives.

It starts this Sunday, by keeping Luck off the field.

Craig...I'd ask the Denver Bronco fans if the deep ball does not win games.

(last years playoff game against the Ravens).

We've all seen that when a deep ball is perfectly thrown it's impossible to defend.

Tannehill has issues with hitting the receiver in stride, which is what every QB from age 7 tries to do.

That TD pass to Hartline on Sunday was a thing of beauty and want to see more of those types of passes from him to say he's progressed to the next level.

...glass is half full with Tannehill right now.

I'm sure Speeder Wallace was very aware the Philbin-Shermans offense was going to be primary a WCO and the ball would be spread around according to game plan and what the defense gives.

Or maybe Mike & his agents memory got clouded by all Dollar signs. Way before he signed, Philbin made it clear last year he wants the ball spread around to many receivers, that is what Green Bay does and helps to make A. Rogers so successful.

This also happens to help if a receiver pulls a hammy or gets injured, you really don't want to have one main receiver and it blows the game plan. Wallace will get his touches, you just don't show everything on the first game. There will be times when Mike will blow right past a DB's and be WIDE open and I'm hoping Tanny will get the timing down and hit him in stride.

Heck, it took sometime but Hartline & Tanny are clicking. It will also happen with Wallace.

I can't stand that we have to go back and play in their house 2 years in a row. Seems like it should be our turn. Same crap happens with the Texans. We rarely get a shot in South Florida.

Having said that, we simply have to get to Luck. He destroyed us last year by maneuvering out of of what was otherwise a pretty solid pass rush. This year we're a little faster...have to take advantage of that and actually make the play.

Go Phins.

Marc,
Mike Wallace is not a rookie whos trying to prove that he can play in this league, this is a proven veteran that has already proven that he is top tier talent. Thats why he got the big contract. Teams find ways to get the ball into the hands of their best players inspite of the coverages. Tannehill does not look to wallace in the first have and the offense scores two field goals. He targets Wallace in the second half and they put up 18 points. Do the math...Tannehill needs to be a humble leader because he still has lots to prove himself.

NHFINSFAN,

How'd that deep ball work out versus the Ravens last year? How many deep balls did Tebow throw in the Broncos playoff win versus the Steelers? Brees leads the league in passing every year. What was the Saints record last year?

I'm not saying there's not a need for it and that it doesn't help an offence, i'm saying fans are misrepresenting what it means in the grand scheme of things. If Tannehill hits Wallace for 10-12 of these this year, then mission accomplished.

I don't believe whether Tannehill has good enough 'deep ball accuracy' will be the reason for whether or not we have sucess this year.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fadoo who catches the ball as long as the chains are moving and the yardage and points are piling up? If Wallace is open, he will get the ball. This is jibberish saying he needs to get the ball more. We scored 23 on the road with no running game. Could've scored more if the offense didn't shut it down in the 4th quarter.

If Mr. Wallace can find himaelf open, he will get the ball. If he can't then well, he can go try elsewhere. He's only really under contract until the end of next year in substance. If he wants to see the other half of that $60M, he will have to bring his A game.

Flacco has accuracy problems to all parts of the field. He was aided by extremely sloppy secondary play by the Broncos (I mean really, who goes up for the pass defense in that situation as the last line of defense?) and monster receiving plays by Boldin and Torrey Smith. Flacco got a lot of help on the way to that super bowl. To his credit he never made a mistake to put his team in jeopardy and when you have as many pieces as the Ravens do and with a little luck, that's more than enough.

Mark,

Thats the point exactly. I think you've got the proper perspective on this. The goal here is for Tannehill to develop to a top 12-15 QB this year. If he does that we win with this defence. Only asterisk i'd add......we gotta get the running game going,

Craig, I think the run game is more important than forcing the game to Wallace. We have other receivers. however, we are counting on 1800 yards or so from the running game to be a decent offense.

Wallace, I could care a lot more about Wallace. he's got his money and as long as he opens up the field for everyone else, eventually he will get his touches.

People will criticize Hartline all day but no doubt that if he is given single coverage all day because the other team is more concerned with Wallace, he will eat a defense alive. he's better than anyone else's second cb on one on one coverage. All day every day.

I think the biggest question is why Wallace was not targeted in the 1st half. Game plan (PhilbinSherman), calls (Sherman) or Tannehill, I don't know. But I do know this needs to change. You don't splurge and buy a Ferrari just to keep it in the garage.

First, why do I keep seeing statements saying that Tannehill will never be as good as Luck, RGIII, Wilson, etc, etc? He has superior tools, superior coaching and his work ethic and attitude is awesome. Those guys are pretty much maxed out and Tannehill is still coming. Tell me this crap in 2 years.

No, it will not be 2 years before we reach the playoffs. It might be 2 years before Tannehill is a superior QB.

Second, if you go back and look at the "long" passes that Rothlesberger threw to Wallace, he was wide open and actually had to slow down to make the catch. I know, the one in the end zone. But that was not a great throw either.

The passes Tannehill threw Sunday were on target to an unimpeded wide receiver. Wallace needs to be unengaged by the time he gets 10 yards down the field.

How can you judge someones speed when they are being arm-barred and tugged at by a cornerback?

I just see Wallace being shadowed by Haden as something the Phins coaches understood would happen. They have years of Wallace vs. Haden game film to look at. The fact Wallace was so pisses off shows me they respected Haden's coverage skills on Wallace and went at a weaker link in the Browns defense. Our run blocking was horrible so Wallace did have to contend with safety help over top constantly.

The Browns game planned to shut Wallace down so the Miami coaches let them and went to someone else. That's what having depth does for an offense. We haven't had any in so long we don't even know what that looks like anymore.

Mark/Dashi/Craig,

No, I'm not saying Tannehill CAN'T throw a deep ball. And true whomever said it's a low-percentage play. But look at Brady in his prime, or even Big Ben with Wallace. It's a timing route, and the 'feel' the QB needs to have is throwing the ball the right distance for the WR to run under it (not too far, and DEFINITELY not behind him or it's likely an INT).

That's what I'm saying Tannehill hasn't shown a great awareness of to date (there were 3-4 he missed to WRs last year, I remember 2 to Hartline, where the WR had a few steps on the defender).

IF he can prove he can make good on those limited chances, then that will help the offense more than probably anything else (because it will force Safeties to respect the threat). Run game will open up, even the underneath passing.

But in order to improve, my point is he needs to keep attempting it. I don't mind if it doesn't work. I just hope they don't go away from it if it only works a couple of times. Those SUPER chunk plays, usually TDs, are exactly what we need to elevate the offense.

By the way, he obviously has the arm strength because he OVERTHREW Wallace, and that's hard to do. But that's the issue with strong-arm QBs, not underthrowing, but overthrowing the WR. Henne had that problem too. But as we saw with those 2 Ginn passes (vs. Jets) when it's on, usually spells defeat for the opposing team (for the reasons I mentioned above).

First play from scrimmage next game should be quick WR screen out to Wallace (still way outside)...just get him the ball and get him into the game. Chances are he'll show the speed and get a 15 yarder, first play of the game.

"The threat is stronger than its execution." Just having a deep ball threat helps prevent teams from putting 8 in the box to stop the run and blitz a safety on pass plays. And then all these 2 deep zones are played opening up the underneath. Of course, judging from the Browns game, teams have no need to put 8 in the box to stop our running game! Teams will change their game plans just because Wallace is there.
Colts are very beatable. Their defense is just average. This is a good litmus test to see how much the Phins have improved. If we win this weekend, playoffs are a real possibility.

cocoajoe, but yet, that's what most millionaires do, haha.

Ever check out mileage on a luxury car on the secondary market? Average only a few thousand miles a year it seems

DC,

Good points. I don't know what people call 'deep' passes but he looked pretty damn good pn that 34 yard toss to Hartine.

My belief is the timing will come with Wallace. Give it time fellas.

Mando when will they announce that Thomas is now the starting RB?

Speaking of Ginn, who has Super Bowl experience, he is among the NFL's all time leaders in TDs per touch, counting punt and kick returns. He has like 12 TDs off of about 48 career touches.

By LV, Indy by 3. Biggest spread NE over NYJ -10


cocoajoe, but yet, that's what most millionaires do, haha.

Ever check out mileage on a luxury car on the secondary market? Average only a few thousand miles a year it seems

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | September 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM
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LOL...Come to think of it, I don't drive my Jag much

Love to see Tannehill march them down the field with those short to intermediate passes, but sure hate losing an easy td when an open receiver is missed deep...

Last season Tanne was spot on with Hartline on the comeback, not so much with him when he had to put air under it going deep.

"You don't like my play calling, I'll call time out and take you out of the Game", Bob Griese in his huddle.

It's hard to say this and I am ashamed, come on JETS you can do it!!

J-E-T-S J-E-T-S J-E-T-S J-E-T-S


Just for tonight, tomorrow F U , you dirty B-holes

EK, Tannehill was better than RG3, Luck, and Wilson in week 1. I know just one week, but it's still fact.

"Don't interrupt my play calling again", Johnny U to Don Shula.

DC,@11:40, not much to debate over that post...

oscar, that's what I told you the spread was a couple of days ago when you said it was -10

Pretty much a pick em game here.

rdubs @ 12:01, ewww

That's it, one week suspension from lobstertube!

Far and away, the biggest responsibility of any QB is with his job as commander of his Team.

Mark, Jets arent division contenders. We need the Pats to move as many as they can, so we can get a road playoff game!!! Come on Geno, shred that D!

EK, Tannehill did indeed play better than RG3 but most definitely did not play better than either Luck or Wilson as someone else said.

Wilson 75.8% completion, 320 yards, 115.7 rating, 1 TD 0 INT.

Luck 78% completion, 127.9 QB rating, 2 TDs, 0 INT, led game winning drive in final two minutes.

Tannehill 63.2% completion, 82.3 QB rating, 1 TD 1 INT.

You can also start to see Philbin beginning to assert the authority of his job. We've been patient enough with the run so start throwing the ball, probably said to Sherman to start the 2nd half.

rdubs, i agree but I just can't cheer for the jets in public or want to hear about it. It's like when you were single and you needed to get laid but had no gf. You knew where to get it but as soon as it was over, you didn't want to think about that nasty piece or remember any of it at all ...

Wilson 12 points

Luck 15 points

Tannehill 23 points

You can use metrics any way you want. Bottom line, Tannehill carried way more weight and produced more points than the other guys in week one in a more hostile environment.

Was he prolific with the FINS.....

Or was it more BARK...

Hope that helps you understand better....

And keep in mind.. You are talking to a a
Marshall fan.....

Sorry, Luck 21 points. Missed that late TD. Only 178 yards too.. Efficient game but stats more resembling a game manager in that game than anything else.

Also, there is still space for a FB on 2 back sets many Teams do it all the Time, from Philbin's lips.

ewww Marshall fan,

Jets chant

I need a shower...

Perhaps you would I woudn't have to explain it further if you read my post as a WHOLE....

Instead of in parts...

Hmm... Good stuff.

So points scored by the team is now the standard for QB play?

Then RG3, whose team scored 27 points against a team better than the Browns did indeed play better than Tannehill?

My God, how ridiculous.

going to be a tough game luck is very good we gotta get pressure on him and have him make mistakes. and please can we run the ball for at least 85 to 120 yards

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