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Tannehill not going to 'force' Wallace the football

Everything's cool between Ryan Tannehill and his alpha receiver Mike Wallace.

Yes, Wallace was upset after Sunday's victory that he caught only one pass, was targeted only five times and didn't get so much as a glance from Tannehill in the first half. But that has passed now, Tannehill said Wednesday.

“Yes, Mike was obviously in a tough spot at the end of that game but, everything is 100 percent normal in the locker room," Tannehill said. " He’s great, practicing hard every day, joking around. He’s his same old self, so we are looking forward to getting back on the field this week."

Well, if he's his same old self, he's going to want the ball on Sunday agaisnt Indianapolis. Coaches know this. Tannehill knows this.

Except that Tannehill feels no need to necessarily feed Wallace going forward.

"I’m going to play the quarterback position the way the coaches install the plays," Tannehill said. "I’m going to go through the reads just like they install it. We’re going to try and get him the ball when he’s in the play, but we’re not going to force him the ball."

This is very interesting to me. You see, this suggests Wallace simply wasn't in the play, so to speak, in the first half Sunday. But he suddenly got in the plays in the second half when he was targeted five times, including on the first play of the half?

So why not just get the guy in the play earlier?

It'll be interesting to monitor going forward.

It'll also be interesting to see how Tannehill handles a receiver with a petulant side. You'll remember Chad Henne kind of struggled to deal with Brandon Marshall, not that I blame him at times. Marshall was at times a handful.

Marino argued and exchanged curses with the Marks Brothers, even on the field, but the three knew they counted on each other for success and had a great relationship off the field.

So does Tannehill have the make up to handle Wallace when he's demanding more targets, more attention?

“Well you should know, receivers are always open, and I’ve been there before too," said the Dolphins quarterback and former college receiver. " No, these guys do a good job of being realistic on the sidelines.  They’ll tell me exactly how the defense is playing them, what routes they like, what they think is there and that’s a big key. If a guy's just coming back saying I’m open on every play it’s tough to sift through that and find out what’s really good and we can implement during the game. When guys are truthful it really helps, and I think they’ve done a good job so far."

It also helps when the quarterback is the clear leader and the receiver understands that.

I must tell you, I saw some good signs from Tannehill in that regard Sunday. There were two snapshots that showed he's the leader and he has the respect of his teammates.

First, there was a moment when left guard Richie Incognito did what he sometimes does and got into debate shall we say with an opposing lineman. It had the potential to lead to pushing and shoving and a flag.

Tannehill stopped it by telling Incognito, an older player, to get back to the huddle.

"Yeah, he got into it a little bit," Tannehill said. "That’s my job on the field, to keep my guys focused on what we’re trying to do, which is go down and score.  Obviously, football is an intense game, there’s a lot of emotion.  Guys are going to get into it here and there but when its sidetracking us from what we’re trying to do, we ‘ve just got to focus, lock in and get ready for the next play."

Tannehill was a little harsher with receiver Rishard Matthews. The second-year receiver was getting hot and arguing with a Cleveland defender in the second half when Tannehill seemingly had enough and cursed out his teammate while demanding he get off the field.

The words were heard on television.

And off the field Matthews went.

"I forget what yard line we were on, but if we get a 15 yard penalty right there, it’s a long field goal and if we kick that field goal right there we put it at 13 points, a two touchdown game," Tannehill said. "We really didn’t need a dumb penalty right there and I just tried to get him off the field the best way I could."

Those are signs of leadership. We'll see if Mike Wallace will follow.

 

 

 

 

 

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Again, not impressed with New England. They missing Welker, Woodhead, Hernandez and Gronkowski. Only 2nd game but they look beatable to me, especially the defense.

This guy Geno looks like he is ready to get down at any time.

LOOK AT GENO'S ARM-SPAN, HIS ARMS ARE LONGER THAN HE IS TALL.
He was probably screened for Marfans Syndrome as a high school player.

go finssssssssss pats look weak

Wood,
They didn't bring in Wallace & Keller to have Tanne run the ball.

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | September 12, 2013 at 09:33 PM

They also wouldn't have used those spread play calls if they didn't plan on running with Tannehill at certain points. It's a small part of a bigger picture. Just like we saw the Dolphins using the quick passes to Hartline,Gibson and Clay to deal with the lack of a running game.

When the defense takes away something by their scheme, the spread option is a good way to make something happen to get the defense back to playing your offense how you would like.

miami 1-0 currently, all is good

the good thing on this game, is one team is going to lose.

Gates still can't catch

Need to have wallace be moving before the snap to help read defense and free him up. Have faith people the season is still young. Beat the bills twice (I hate the bills), jets twice and split with pats, it will all be good.

http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/Sports/Miami-Dolphins-cheerleaders-unveil-swimsuit-calendar/7888/6/ your welcome

I guess this game is a good chance for Edelman to have a few good games for his carerr, you can't begrudge him that.

Woodshed @ 9:40

There is low hanging fruit to be harvested by having Tanne take off I agree.
But if Tanne gets hurt and it comes out that JI & the coaches discussed the possibility beforehand but let it go ahead anyway than people will get fired. And it may not be Ireland that gets fired. I didn't say it shouldn't be Ireland I said it wouldn't be Ireland.

These Patriots are not those Patriots of yesterday. Brady has few weapons around him and looks beatable.

By the way the hair barrette is stupid looking on Sancheese. It's not cool or hip at all.

..Odin. I think there is a huge difference between getting a player involved, and having chemistry. How many times did we see the Phins try and get Brandon Marshall involved? Yet there was no chemistry? Or perhaps a better analogy. How many girls have you been involved with just to "get involved"..Yet there was no chemistry? See what I mean?

Throwing bubble screens and slants are not a way to create chemistry between high paid receiver, and franchise quarterback(hopefully)..Chemistry takes time and cannot be forced. Chemistry is unspoken. It is repetition. Wallace wasn't brought here to be a decoy, or to catch bubble screens because that is the only way we can get him the ball. Give these guys some time. It may happen sooner then later, it may not happen at all. Chemistry is one of those things that cannot be planned.

DD,
My condolences again.
Being able to fight on sidelines and connect in game is chemistry.
Tanne needs to start putting the ball up and making Wallace responsible for making a play on it.

Nobody is "impressed" with the PATS.....until they are 13-3...or 12-4....a d representing the AFC in the Super Bowl....

Gimme a break....

If the PATS don't impress you....

Tell me honestly what you think of the FINS....

So let me see if I'm understanding you Darryl.

You're saying only run Wallace on Deep Routes every play?

I don't think that's very realistic. Like Fin4 said earlier, Wallace was awesome taking quick, short stuff from Big Ben and getting tons of Yards after the catch.

Sorry Bud, we'll have to agree on disagreeing this time.

Cheers ;)

I only root for two teams, the Fins, and whomever is playing the Jets.

Whenever Brady retires Ryan Mallett will beat us twice a year.

Kris you ever see the play clock stop at 1 second when Brady is on offense at the Razor? They have had great records but not everything they do is great.

I think you guys are over analyzing the situation with Wallace. My thought is that T-Hill is seeing double coverage and throwing away from that to avoid INT's when given the time to pass. Who can really blame him for that? I agree with the earlier post about moving Wallace around to try and avoid some of that.

Paul beat us at what...Monopoly? Mallet is a human pylon.

Darkoak....

I am not saying they are without flaws....

I'm saying its week 1.5.....

And last I checked...they are usually still playing in week 21 or 22 plus....

Lets knock them off...before we knock them

...ETF..Thanks I'm doing well. I put an offer on a house today for my mom. Sweet pad.

Odin...No I'm not saying just run deep routes. My point is that there is a difference between getting a player involved. And having chemistry. My point about lets say bubble screens..It doesn't take chemistry to do that. Simple play design. Throwing a designed slant, or go route even doesn't take chemistry. Now, when Wallace and Tannehill can make eye contact, or some sort of body language that they both understand. And they adjust on the fly because they both recognize what the defense is giving them..Say ala Peyton and Marvin Harison..Now that is chemistry. That takes time. I disagree that feeding Wallace the ball constitutes chemistry. It is at this point by design.

Hartline and Tanny have chemistry..That much is obvious. It may take awhile for these 2 TNNY-WWCE to create their own.

The Pats look soft and Brady is 11 of 24. And of course the fragile Amendola is already hurt and out 2-6 weeks. That's just not a scary team. Where's the upside? When Gronk gets back whenever that maybe?

...Odin..I'm running out of battery power on my laptop. I would like to continue this debate later. Have a good night..


No need to just run Wallace deep all the time, whether he's decoying or not. Throw the quick slants, bubble screens and all. Start from there, build on the successes **AND THEN** keep the DB's guessing by mixing in the Deep Routes. There's so many different ways to use Wallace's talents and just as many ways for he and Tannehill to develop Chemistry and continuity.

Use ALL of Em!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | September 12, 2013 at 08:47 PM

You added and multiplied the point I was making, good stuff and yes your right! Even the GREAT Marino had difficulty with Clayton (also a rookie in 83) early. By mid-80's though I felt his comfort zone with Marino (breaking routes ect...) made him the more valuable Marks in the equation.

DD,
That legal stuff takes 9 mos-2 yrs.
Turn it over to a law firm when you can and get back to your life as best you can.

Finally the Phins are favored every week after 2 decades of sucking.

Kris I'm not even talking about the flaws I'm talking about the damn cheating. I mean it's widely known and it isn't all sour grapes.

fin4life and Odin, I'm not sure Sherm is the guy that can make the most of Wallace's talents.

Pats look really bad and jets as sorry as they are looking better than the Pats. But to the Pats credit too many players missing on offense. Pats are in trouble phins have a great chance to sweep Pats Jets Buffalo...
I hope anyways!!

First time in a long time I see this Pats offense worst than the Phins Jets Buffalo
Boys we stay healthy Phins have a good chance to win our division, comments anyone?

Redsky. Where are you...watching the game? Give me a text.

Tell me honestly what you think of the FINS....

Posted by: Kris | September 12, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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I know where you're going with this........I THINK-LOL?

So let me try to be honest with you. I believe this is one of the LEAST talented **PATRIOT TEAMS** over the past decade. Because of injuries(and "Other" situations)they have a lot of Youngsters trying to be "The Next Guy Up".

Having said that, it's all subjective. Being that it's a Patriot Team, The least talented could still be pretty good.

Having said all that, they still are excellently Coached, they run excellent schemes and they have a wealth of experience and football knowledge to draw upon.

After that, one always has to give Brady Props by factoring in the Brady Factor-LOL.

Yep, as much as I hate everything about the Patriots it is what it is. As right as you are Kris, it's early in the season and this is the ONLY TIME we can make these sweeping anti-Patriots Claims. It's like you said, we can't very well talk about how plain or average they look or are, when they're 10-4 with a clinched playoff berth.

In others words, "Let a Man Dream-LOL".

PS: Then again, they barely squeaked one out last week and the jets are leading.........

Awwwwwwww..........NEVERMIND! I'm starting to Dream Again!

Cheers!!!!

Chemistry takes time and cannot be forced. Chemistry is unspoken. It is repetition. Wallace wasn't brought here to be a decoy, or to catch bubble screens because that is the only way we can get him the ball. Give these guys some time. It may happen sooner then later, it may not happen at all. Chemistry is one of those things that cannot be planned.

Posted by: DarrylDunphy | September 12, 2013 at 10:04 PM

When your playing a game and the D has a Safety living over the top there should be routes as a WR you feel good about breaking the pattern off to and the QB should know what they are and be able to throw to a specific spot on the field fully expecting his WR to catch it in stride. I believe you can practice as repetitiously as you like but that type of awareness between the QB and WR will only happen once they start running through those routes in live games and under every situation a Defense can throw at you from every conceivable angle.

I don't believe chemistry (the type were alluding to) can be had any other way so in a way I'm agreeing with you while disagreeing because LIVE GAMEDAY REPETITION is exactly what these two need and alot of it. At the end of the day Professional chemistry is achieveable the other TYPE of chemistry you mention isn't necessary or important. I saw an interview with Matt Light (former Career LT for T.Brady) who said very matter of fact that not a player in the Pats huddle could really stand Aaron Hernandez or what he stood for but he brought the lunch pale to work everyday so Brady worked with him and the two built a good working rep-or.

Pats defense suck just like their offense!! PATS 8-8. NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET A WILDCARD! THAT DEFENSE SUCKS. BAD

4 years from now our draft pick Dallas 'Texas" Thomas will be held in as high regard as Vlad Ducasse.

The Jets are handling their business in Gillette Stadium in the 4th! Win or lose the Patsies look soft! Impressed like some others with Geno Smith showing me alot in only 2nd start regardless of pick, seems for real which is something to take notice of considering the Jets have a young core as well.

I THINK JETS ARE GONNA WIN THIS SHHT

odin,

The Pats look a bit light and Old on the DL. The Jets (Ivory) has made some runs right between the Guards. The DB's outside of starting CB's looks suspect. On O it's worth noting that Gronk had back surgery which is what has him sidelined right now it's not a given he'll be ready to roll or 100% when he returns and outside of the waver wire (or trade before Oct. deadline) this could conceivably be their 2013 team were watching and in honesty even with Gronk I'm not sure were looking at a serious contender right now in the AFC!

Now that is chemistry. That takes time. I disagree that feeding Wallace the ball constitutes chemistry. It is at this point by design.

Hartline and Tanny have chemistry..That much is obvious. It may take awhile for these 2 TNNY-WWCE to create their own.

Posted by: DarrylDunphy | September 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM
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I get you now Darryl.

The Bubble Screen was probably a bad example, I regreted including it as soon as I hit the post button.

What I'm saying though, and I think it's the same thing you are, in principle, is to get him involved in whatever ways you can, early and often.

This will eventually lead to chemistry and continuity. Running the slants and/or even some "Settle Ins" will expose Tannehill to Wallace's nuances. The different plays and different situations and seeing how Wallace acts and responds, all of it will eventually lead to Chemistry and continuity. At least I think it will.

I agree it takes time. It all takes time. My point would be, I want to keep running Wallace deep. But in the mean time, I want to get him involved with whatever plays we have available.

I don't want Tannehill to start forcing things, he's had **ONE** INT in his last 6 games. I like that and it has to continue. But still, I think the best thing that can happen Sunday is for us too get Wallace involved in the Game Plan Early and Often. Not at the expense of the Offense or the Game Plan, but in conjunction with it. If it takes some quick slants or skinny posts or Hitches, WHATEVER IT TAKES, So Be It!

PS: Everytime I start to think that the team playing the pats just might have a shot........They FOLD!

Sigh..................

I can see the writing on the wall already.....of course.

It's kind of wierd saying this about a Brady led team, **BUT**, "The jets are letting Brady and the pats hang around too long.........

Usually Brady doesn't even this many chances.

Dashi,

With all due respect the FATHER of the Cover-2 were the Pittsburgh Steelers under Chuck Noll. Dungy learned it as a player then as their DB Coach eventually becoming their DC. He tweaked it in Minnesota then later perfected it.

In Tampa it was a combination of the Tampa Bay staff that was lead by Tony Dungy. That staff included great coaches like Monty Kiffin, Lovie Smith and Mike Tomlin but it was Tony Dungy who took the ideas he had while playing in the NFL, especially from the Steelers playbook that Chuck Noll created and expanded on their ideas to better suit their team speed.

dashi don't know squat. He is just a kid punk with ignorant opinions.

Dashi,

I went and looked it up for you on Wiki links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_2

fin4life and Odin, I'm not sure Sherm is the guy that can make the most of Wallace's talents.

Posted by: Darkoak | September 12, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Hey I don't doubt it for a minute, Coach Philbin in two short Yrs. has laid a very nice foundation for the team moving forward. I've become a believer in Philbin I trust!

It really sucks we don't have a single division game in the 1st 5 weeks. Both the pats and jets are pathetic right now. The jets well stay that way but the pats almost certainly will get better.

Fight gangsta vs gangsta

in Philbin I trust!

Posted by: fin4life | September 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Said like a good little homer

Many of you that lack confidence in Philbin/Sherman are grossly underestimating what is involved with installing a new system while at the same time overhauling many key positions.


It may appear flawed to you, but stop for a minute and think just how many practices and games these guys have been through. For each thing you might not understand, for each thing that might seem like a flawed approach, there are 20 reasons behind it that the observer from afar has no idea of.


Let's not forget Belichek was a bum in Cleveland and fired. Pete Carrol was useless his first try in the NFL. I'll bet their fans said all the same things and worse.

Look at them now.

Irsay can't sleep....panic attacks

If I wasn't a Gd fearing man, I'd post what I feel may be THE SOLUTION to the Andrew Luck "Problem.
Ah heck, I'll do it anyway.
Weeks 11 and 13 (too late for us, unfortunately) the Tennessee Titans play the Colts. None other than the great humanitarian Gregg Williams, former leader of the Saints "hit squad" is the Titans defensive "advisor." (IMA Giggles)

Now IF, by some odd chance Mr Luck finds himself one on one with a Titans defender, he might want to slide quickly.

I hate myself for even thinking this sort of thing. I truly value human life in all it's majesty.
But I've been screaming for 2 years that the Colts TANKED (in CAPS). That 61-7 loss to the Saints was just one of many games that cross the line of credibility.

We get 10 years of mediocrity, 17 different starting QB's, the Colts get Manning/Luck.

"O hammer of justice, where art thou?
I believe his name is Cam Wake.

Really enjoyed the first 3 pages of tonight's blog. Can't finish tonight, maybe tomorrow.
DOLPHINS!!!

Fin4,

That totally got by me, but I believe you're absolutely right.......AGAIN ;)

Yeah, I think it's more than safe to say that the pats haven't really benefited or improved this off season at all.

Actually, I believe they've digressed or regressed or whatever cool word fits there. Seriously, I don't follow their moves as close as I do the Phins, but I pay some attention. I just assumed they had gotten better just like anyone else.

Where have they improved? I know they suffered some big losses. Then, even some of the key additions turned into losses.

Whether or not we've closed the gap with them remains to be seen. But I don't think they can make any substantial claims to having improved. On the contrary, thanks to your last post and some quick googling(LOL), I'm convinced that they've slipped, and more than just a notch or two.

Thanks Man, I'm feeling pretty good about that.

PS: You can say anything you want about Geno Smith. We can discuss him all you like. But really, the **MAIN THING** with Smith right now is that he's simply not ready for Prime Time.

Sometimes it's best to just throw a Kid out there and let him get his baptism under fire(Like we did Tannehill). But I don't think that's the case with Smith. I could be wrong, I'm no Guru and I haven't seen him play a ton. Having said that, I watched some college, some highlights, I read quite a bit about him and I watched tonight.

I just don't think he's ready to play at this level and I think THAT FACT can be laid squarely at Rex Ryan's Feet.

OK, you probably don't want to put anything anywhere NEAR Rex Ryan's feet. But you get the picture.

ROTFLMAO!

Michael Irvin just called Clyde Gates Edward Scissor Hands and said he would cut him.....RIGHT NOW......IN THE LOCKER ROOM!

Oooooooouch! Thems some HARSH words, but I have to admit, I agree Whole Heartedly.
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Having said that, I also have to admit, I was totally fooled by Gates. I had him on my Mock Draft(one of the few times I was right in trying to guess who we would pick). But I also had him on my OWN Mock.

I thought he had all the skills and that they would transition into the NFL No Prob.

Oh well, can't win em all.

I get it can take time Bodine. But when I watch our offense I don't see imaginative plays that leave the opponents D guessing. I'm not a Sherm fan. I like Philbin though, and I like him telling Sherm to knock off what isn't working.

Odin, Bodine & Dark,

Great comments, my opinion on...

1. Don't run Tanney unless necessary, he has the horses but only run him if a lane really opens big time. Just look at RG3, maybe never the same. QB is just one hit away from career changer, just ask Pouncey about his brother.

2. Pats are not the same team, Bellicheat retooling the team with youth slowly. I just don't understand why he would let Welker go, I believe from what I read Brady was pissed. Brady's at the end of his career, 3 more season's 4 at the most if he stays heathy and lossing his security blanket (Welker) is hurting him (thanks god).

3. Because Bellicheat has a strong system, coaches, owner (we are developing that) he will rebuilt-reload, the saving grace is that Brady will someday retire. I don't think Matlet will be as good as Brady in the future, and who knows Bellicheat my call it quits when Brady throws in the towel (would be nice).

4. Wallace & Tanney need time to grow, I don't think our coaches know exactly how to use him. What I mean by that, it's oblivious Hartline & Tanney have the chemistry and are clicking. Only way that's going to happen with Wallace is a lot more practice and game time, but the new CBA makes that difficult. You can practice then until they drop the way Shula did. I agree with Tanney about not forcing the pass to him, if he did it would probably cause a lot of turn overs.

5. The Kid (Tanney) is really smart, manages the game well and has poise. Speaks intelligently football, reminds me of Greise. Has a air of confidence and leadership that he's developing without being cocky, reminds me of Marino. Getting on Matthews to get off the field before he causes a penalty was leadership 101 for a QB, and shows he's in control. This is going to be his team, he's smart enough to make the right decisions and act like a pro quarterback. He wants to be a doctor-surgeon when he retires, this also shows he's goal oriented. I REALLY like the fact that our work-in-progress franchise QB is NOT a dumbass, that says a lot with today's modern athletes.

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