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Watkins responds to Roseman comments

Danny Watkins seems like a good guy. Whether he's a good player, we shall see eventually.

I know this, the Dolphins' time with Josh Samuda was played out. Samuda got a very good chance to win a starting job this preseason. It was probably a better chance than he deserved because one player (John Jerry) got hurt and another player (Lance Louis) was fighting to come back from knee surgery. Samuda couldn't take advantage of the opportunity.

And so in steps Watkins, a former first round pick of the Philadelphia Eagles, who was cut from that team a couple of days ago after only two seasons with the club. It seems like a good move.

But there are questions.

If you read what Eagles GM Howard Roseman said about Watkins in the last post you know it's quite an indictment when an NFL GM says a player has shown little toughness.

I asked Watkins his thoughts about Roseman's comment.

"I got to Philadelphia and it was just a rough go from the get-go," Watkins said. "I felt like it just got broken down to bones and never got built back. It was more a mental thing. I was very disappointing to myself that it never panned out the way it could. Because I know I can play physical and tough football but it just never ... I think it was more a mental aspect than anything.

"These last three years have been such a whirlwind. it was great opportunity to play in the NFL. My college career was great, I love Baylor and what they did for me there. Looking back, six years ago if you had told me I'd be in the position I am today, I would have laughed at you. I'm very fortunate and very blessed to be where I am today."

Watkins picked the Dolphins over another NFL team, he said. He declined to specify what team. I asked him if he believes this is his last chance to find an NFL home.

"I'm very excited to be here and I know Miami has a, well the past history with the players here" Watkins said. "So this is huge for me. Like I said, it's the most exciting thing that's happened to me and I'm going to take full advantage of the opportunity and make the best of it."

The Dolphins asked Watkins to work at snapping the football some on Monday. Is he a viable backup center?

It doesn't sound like it right away.

"I was a tackle in college. and guard in the NFL," he said.

Watkins said he's comfortable playing either left or right guard. 

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin declined to say who the backup center is now that Samuda is gone. He cited competitive reasons for declining to answer.

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Oscar...where one becomes a genius is when you can't run the ball when they have 7 in the box. Then it gets interesting and could get ugly.


Slow day I guess.
3 entries regarding a waiver wire pickup who's just as likely to be gone in 2 weeks than he is to ever start a game for the Dolphins.

So, you mean, Pro, how is Trent going to run against our 7 in the box? Well, that's their problem.

Very slow day...but good to see you.

I love being covered in chocolate sea men. I have a blue backpack, but I really want a red one. My favorite color is red. I like to rub my palm under my nuts when they are sweaty, and then smell it. I once put a an ant up my pee hole. My favorite hobby is pooping and peeing in the shower. My name is LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! Yes yes

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | September 03, 2013 at 07:05 PM

Very Colorful!

I have to say, I sense disaster this Sunday. Be it poor play, a bad bounce or bad luck, the optomism is going to be shaken.

Very slow day...but good to see you.

Posted by: Progolf667

Hey what's up.
Yeah I took your advice and came over. I think you somehow understated the negativity...If I responded to everything that I thought was ridiculous I'd spend all day at the computer.
For the time being it gives somewhere to talk Dolphins, and we'll see how it goes.

Oscar...you only missed it by one. I only hope your right.

I see where the other DONALD (Rumsfeld) is criticizing Obama for dragging his feet. Wasn't it DONALD that got us involved in the OTHER 10 year war that allowed us to gain.........wait, I just lost my train of thought!

rym....it get's better. Just a bad day. When this happens it's best just to turn on the TV.


30-13 win on Sunday

I'm not really expecting the playoffs, or making any bold claims for the season, but I do believe they get off on the right foot in Cleveland this Sunday.

Hey, I wouldnt be surprised if they beat Cleveland but forget about scoring 30 pts. This has all the makings of a 9-6 snoozefest.

Well, now Clev has gone 1 point above us according to LV's latest odds. ???

Wish I could be as optimistic. Just seems that if we can't run the ball we have a problem. The OL seemingly is flawed and the running backs, hopefully with the exception of Miller, don't seem to get it or just don't have the talent. Can't help but wonder with the combo of our OL and the RBs where we can hope for a running attack.

The term attack doesn't seem to fit. But retreat? Nope! If we get 90 yards, I suspect we win. If not........?

I really thought Samuda would be a good backup Center.

Posted by: oscar canosa | September 03, 2013 at 09:45 PM

They should call u wrong way Oscar.

Two months back I was laughed at and ridiculed for saying no way they move Pouncey to guard and put Samuda at center.

Most of these posters are jokers that think they know everything. The read one preseason report from some bozo and jump right on the bandwagon.

Posted by: Mike | September 03, 2013 at 09:38 PM

That's half the story! No?

The debate was about our best interior Lineman playing in his old College Pos., PERIOD!

Samuda who had shown promise at Center was the logical person to move in to the Center spot and that worked terribly, I readily admit it but Mike Pouncey can be a perennial Pro Bowl Guard in the NFL. I mentioned his pulling ability (a staple in any Guards game) it has since been talked to death that he is one of the very few Center's who incorporates this in his job description covering up some ground due to poor ability out of our Guards to get around Tackle in run blocking.

If you want to tell half the story to an argument you were late to anyway then go right ahead but don't distort the central point.

And I know trying to beat LV is looking for misery. FUKKK. I had hoped to start fast.

I'm a fan, no question. But the only way that I'd make a play on the game is if the Browns went up to -3 1/2. That won't happen. I know more about the 'Phins then any other team but I couldn't, in good conscience, make a play with your money.

Isn't it funny how so many bloggers with no professional NFL experience believe they have advice and tips the players coaches haven't considered?

Tannehill needs to learn this. Philbin has to learn that. Sherman should do this, Coyle should do that.

Posted by: Such Ego Warts | September 03, 2013 at 09:32 PM
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Dude, just because you come here with your misplaced, condescending ignorance, it's not going to make me less of a fan or have any other type of attitude or opinion.

So please, I'm being serious now, for the good of the blog, take your utterly useless, ignorant contributions(if they can be called that)ELSEWHERE!

You suck and anyone and everyone even slightly like you sucks-LOL.

For the record: I don't know who has considered what. But it's pretty obvious that Tannehill needs work on his fakes and fake pumps. I'm not surprised an idiot like you doesn't realize.

I dunno what else to tell you? Go ask your Mom?

ROTFLMAO!

Whoop-WHOOP!!!!

If you want to tell half the story to an argument you were late to anyway then go right ahead but don't distort the central point.

Posted by: fin4life | September 03, 2013 at 10:22 PM

I've distorted nothing. You have a 'convenient' memory. Your other point was that Guard was his natural position, as though Center wasn't. Nonsense. There was only room for one Center on his college team and as soon as he left, who played Center?

After the draft, Pouncey said he was a Center. Who would know better? You? Two different coaching staffs have played him soley as starting Center.

So don't feed me this nonsense that it isn't his natural position when he is already in two years one of the very best at it. If that ain't natural, I don't know what is!!!

I don't bet Football, GODDAMIT. I just want the Dolphins to win.

I would honestly prefer ANY ONE OF YOU MORONS over Ireland at GM.

odinseye | September 03, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Condescending is you. Struck a nerve, eh? I guess that means I was right ;)

Fin4life is a good poster to converse with as long as you are on his page, same goes for odin. Walk to their tune and everything is good. Question their opinion amd they will get upset. Non-biased opinion here, its just the truth.

I hope Philbin is being honest when he says he is taking it one game at a time. I hope we throw everything but the kitchen sink at Cleveland.

It would be nice to build a reputation. Fear is a very powerful weapon. That is why we freeze up against NE.

If we could rip off a few high scoring games the turnovers would come. When a team has to take chances to score against you, they make mistakes.

Blow them out Dolphins. For a change!!!

I, also, want the 'Phins to win! But my confidence level isn't as high as it was 2 wks. ago. I'll be watching and rooting and hoping! Two weeks ago I predicted 10 wins. I'm still hoping I'm right but have less confidence then when I made my prediction.

39-13 would be nice but a surprise. Certainly a pleasant one but still a surprise.

One small advantage for Us this year. Not too many Teams are going to crowd the box this year as often as they did last year. The reason? Mike Wallace. If they insist on 8 man fronts it is a guarantee that sooner or later they are going to be burned pretty deep. Yes?

ola, concordo, eles sao arrogantes e burros.

Oscar....yes! But if they can stop the run with 7 who needs 8?

Trent Richardson and Weeden are going to have breakout games. You think they are sitting there worried about us? They see us as an easy victory for starters.

You were right about something..........?

Ha Ha, I must have missed that one.

Good Post at 10:32. Excellent actually!

10:31.........eh........Not so much!

Can someone tell me how golf is a sport???

I know it isn't easy, but does that make it a sport? They calmly walk around on the grass to hit a little ball with a club until it falls into a hole. No rush, no timing, no contact.

Puhlease.

Now we go back to what Pro says. If you cannot run against their front 7 straight up, in the hands of a good play caller, there are myriad ways of running around them, drawing them off sides, confusing them , drawing them, soften them with some type of quick passes, infinite possibilities. Only in the hands of a good play caller and I'm unsure if we have one of those.

The hell you say about no contact! Have you ever been in a locker room after a game when people have to pay up? It can get ugly with old fat men trying to get out of a bet. It can certainly be a contact sport!

Nobody has yet to answer my question for weeks now.


Is Philbin a leader of men?

The jerk on NFL fantasy football said Miami had an "absolutely horrible offensive line". I concede we may have some questions and weaknesses, but how can he make such a blanket statement? And they haven't played their first game yet.

Vegas is not perfect on a game by game basis. They just do well as an average. I'll bet(no pun intended) that their first game betting lines are their worst ones.

Teams that move from bad or mediocre to good or great, usually exceed peoples expectations. Isn't that what we are hoping for? Wouldn't that make winning even better?

The hell you say about no contact! Have you ever been in a locker room after a game when people have to pay up? It can get ugly with old fat men trying to get out of a bet. It can certainly be a contact sport!

Posted by: Progolf667 | September 03, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Glad to see I'm not missing anything. I can think of way better things to do.

So can I.....but it's a little late to remedy the mistake!

Time for some TV and sleep.

Say 'Goodnight Gracie!'.

Well, I'm going to follow Pro and take a break. Has been a long day, had to BAct an 89 y/o that wanted to kill himself. Never a pleasant experience. GN.

Our OL is horrible without Jake Long. Ross saved money but put his QB at risk.

I'm totally expecting the biased media at ESPN to preempt highlights of Miami beating the Browns with an expose of Rex Ryan's favorite restaurants and pastry shops...


YG,

Stick to something you know. I gotta tell ya it ain't financial planning. I've been doing this 12 years now and I can tell you that you don't need to make anything close to $5 million a year to be financially secure. What planet are you from?

Like I said, stick to something you know about, whatever that might be?

Posted by: Craig M | September 03, 2013 at 04:05 PM

Seems he knows how to "TROLL" very well.
This is a football blog for fuksake and all these idiots with a thousand different names are constantly ruining it for those of us who are actually here to discuss the Dolphins and football. I would actually pay to go on a blog that discussed Dolphins and football so I wouldn't have to deal with all the ass monkeys.

I'm sure that someone in the Dolphin's organization has looked through the Fin's archives and dusted off Norv Turner's old playbook to use in getting ready for the game. He's been using basically the same playbook and terminology for years. And, most of the teams in the NFL knows this...

After the draft, Pouncey said he was a Center. Who would know better? You? Two different coaching staffs have played him soley as starting Center.

So don't feed me this nonsense that it isn't his natural position when he is already in two years one of the very best at it. If that ain't natural, I don't know what is!!!

Posted by: Mike | September 03, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I had to go out for a minute and regret missing this earlier in case your gone!

Mike Pouncey was a Guard throughout his College career save for one! His Sr. Yr.!!!!

You claim Pouncey said he was a Center when drafted and your wrong!! Every publication questioned whether he could be one given slow delivery when snapping the ball to which he stated he could play it in NFL just like twin Br Maurkice.

He to our benefit as Dolphans was right and he is a SOLID Center (even though he still has trouble with the shotgun snap sailing few every Yr.)

NATURAL POSITION is a term used for players who've spent the better part of their lives before going Pro playing a specific Pos.

Since you have such a GREAT memory and question my recollection of events I'll post a few of the scouting reports on Mike Pouncey leading up to the 2011 draft.


WALTERFOOTBALL.COM

Mike Pouncey Scouting Report
By Greg Cox

Strengths:
Athletic
Provides push required to run block
Reaches second level
Mirrors defenders well
Solid pass blocker
Quick off snap
Agile - good feet and lateral movement
Meets assignments
High character, positive influence
Experience at center and scheme versatile

Weaknesses:
Bull rushers give him problems
Needs to finish better
Inconsistent
Can be beaten by quick rusher
Lunges at times
Struggled with snaps when moved to center

Summary: Mike Pouncey is obviously going to be compared to his twin brother Maurkice who left Florida a year ago, and as a rookie became one of the NFL's best centers. Unfortunately Mike struggled snapping the football which should kill his value at that position. The experience is nevertheless valuable in a pinch and he is enough of a student of the game to be the proverbial "quarterback of the line" that a center generally is. Even with his center shortcomings, he is an elite guard prospect.


This ones from NFL.Com PATH TO PRIMETIME on 2011 draft

OVERVIEW

Pouncey is arguably this class' top interior offensive line prospect. He has outstanding football IQ and the ability to become a pro-bowl starter at guard or center. Has great feet needed to mirror pass rushers and pull down the line. Uses his hands well when battling in pass protection. Shows his understanding of the game when recognizing blitzers and effectively combo blocking with teammates. Plays with passion and aggressiveness and has the work-ethic to continue to improve. Defensive tackles with more size and strength than Pouncey can be his kryptonite but there aren't many holes in this guy's game. A first round prospect.


NOTICE HOW THEY REFER TO HIM AS TOP INTERIOR LINE PROSPECT NOT CENTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE!


In what will be the first of hopefully a couple of posts, it's time to go inside the Miami Dolphins 2011 draft class and get a different kind of perspective on the players selected by GM Jeff Ireland and company. Today's edition focuses in on Miami's first round pick, Florida's Mike Pouncey.

On Monday, the Miami Herald cited an unnamed college source who is is obviously a fan of Pouncey and who believes his troubles snapping the football last year as Florida's starting center were way overblown by the media leading up to the draft.

"It was his first season starting at center, they probably didn't work on it live in practice as much as they should have, and once they identified it as a problem, it took him just a couple of weeks to resolve it," said this source. "Pouncey will be a center, and a good one. Don't get caught up in the comparisons with his brother. He'll be good in his own right."

But the point of this series is to get a different kind of perspective on the players drafted by the Dolphins. For that, I reached out to SBN's fine Florida Gators blog - Alligator Army. And courtesy of Joel - a writer over at Alligator Army who is more affectionately known as The Bull Gator - here's a terrific in-depth look at the Dolphins new starting center:

When Matt reached out to Alligator Army, he asked one of us to provide a scouting report on Dolphins draft pick Mike Pouncey. He said the great thing out of getting analysis from those in the SB Nation community is that we see each and every snap of our team. He had no ill intent whatsoever, but when it comes to Pouncey, seeing every snap was something many Gator fans wish they could forget.

That is probably not the way you would like me to start a scouting report on a player your favorite team just used a fairly high first-round draft choice on, but Pouncey struggled at center. There is no way around it, so we should just get it out of the way first.

If the Dolphins wouldn't have traded Satele or had another decent center Pouncey would be playing at the G position right now and playing it well if you ask me.

Seems he knows how to "TROLL" very well.
This is a football blog for fuksake and all these idiots with a thousand different names are constantly ruining it for those of us who are actually here to discuss the Dolphins and football. I would actually pay to go on a blog that discussed Dolphins and football so I wouldn't have to deal with all the ass monkeys.

Posted by: ButchVA | September 03, 2013 at 11:38 PM


Hmmm...............................


Wonder how many trolls you have ass monkey. No one's stupid, it's you who pretend to be against trolls whom are the real trolls here. Just that the rest are to damn gullible to figure it out.

Anyways, happy trolling, very large and gullible audience for you here.................

I could keep going but I imagine you understand that the one with the SELECTIVE MEMORY or DOESN'T REMEMBER or KNOW what the HELL he's talking about is you!!

He has developed into one of the best Center's in Football but coming out of College was a Natural Guard who replaced Maurkice out of need at Center his Sr. Season!!

His ability makes him the best Guard on the Miami Dolphins roster today!! There is NO DISPUTING the point .

LOL...ANYONE can look up my IP address and see that I have only one name and look at every post I have ever made. I welcome you to...I will not be responding to anything else you have to say because "I don't feed the trolls" so feel free to ramble on with your nonsense.

Since No One wants to admit it. Dashi as Jeff Ireland's Only Fan would say what needs to be said, Great job Jeff!!

Jeff Ireland is the F'ing Man.

Look, I was on the Samunda Bandwagon, maybe we bring him back on the practice squad.

But C'mon Son.

While Belichick Is Cutting the #33 pick from the 2011 draft. Ireland is picking up the #23 pick of that draft for Acorns.

The Kid might've been a bust in Philly. But he played in a WCO with zone blocking under A.Reid. and is listed at 6'3" 310. Maybe we can convert him into an Incognito Jr.

He has better Pedigree than L. Louis or Samunda. This guy is supposedly as or more talented than Jerry. Maybe he needs the right Coaching? And if someone can get the most out of his players it is the Fins O-Line Coach.

D.Watkins Has started 18 of 23 games played in 2 Seasons in the NFL. Again in a WCO w/Zone Blocking.

Andy Reid learned his WCO from Holmgren in Green Bay(Who learned it from B.Walsh). Same coaching tree as Sherman and Philbin.

Great Job Jeff!!

Always trying to make the team better.

Hate on Ireland all you want. This is the Best Fins Roster since JJ in his Heyday.

And Ireland can still improve the team next season, the Fins will have over $20 Mil in cap to start Free Agency.. With a young core of players already in place. Your QB, Your RB, Your 2 Pass Rushers and 2 CBs. In place for the Future.

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11-5 AFC East Division Champs

17-0 Dolphins-In-Yur-Browns

Posted by: fin4life | September 03, 2013 at 11:59 PM

I agree he is one of the best centers in the league and if he played guard he would be one of the best at that position also. Dolphins would be dumb to move him to G though because it is a lot harder to find a top notch center than it is to find a quality guard.

LAST YRS OPENER WE CAME OUT SLUGGISH AND POORLY COACHED VS HOUSTON. HOF GAME WE WERE CLEARLY UNPREPARED.

Let's hope Cleveland is different.

Dolphins would be dumb to move him to G though because it is a lot harder to find a top notch center than it is to find a quality guard.

Posted by: ButchVA | September 04, 2013 at 12:10 AM

The debate was one made about what we could do if Samuda could handle the Center spot after the J.Jerry injury and that failed miserably. The idea in that particular conversation I started was moving Cogs to RG and Pouncey to LG. To me the real value of the Center is calling the line assignments. Would you say there was anything overly special about Jeff Saturday, Dan Koppen or a host of others at Center in this ERA athletically?? The Center Position makes the calls and usually gets Guard help inside or has to pick up an inside blitzer. The Guard has alot more resposibility in his job description and the reason they on the average make alot more than the best Center's it's just MY OPINION! and at least I stick to it!

I'm totally expecting the biased media at ESPN to preempt highlights of Miami beating the Browns with an expose of Rex Ryan's favorite restaurants and pastry shops...

Posted by: Tracyh474 | September 03, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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ROTFLMAO!

Oh wait, you weren't joking.......were you?

Posted by: fin4life | September 04, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Hey brother I am not trying to argue with you. I would have no problem with Pouncey moving to guard as long as they filled the C position with someone who could play it just as well as he does. A center has to not only athletctly talented, they have to be smart. I just don't think it is prudent to move a pro bowl caliber C to the guard position just because you need help there unless you can replace him with someone who can play the C Postion that has near to or equal skills as him.

Yeah Butch, I think Fin4 agrees. I can say that because I was part of the original conversation.

The whole convo was in the context of making a contingency move because of a major injury.

The troll just twisted it and tried to change the context and peoples statements in an attempt to.......well......TROLL - LOL!

Fin4life is a good poster to converse with as long as you are on his page, same goes for odin. Walk to their tune and everything is good. Question their opinion amd they will get upset. Non-biased opinion here, its just the truth.

Posted by: ola | September 03, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Just caught this!

A BIG DIFFERENCE between getting upset and debating a point of view. I don't always agree with odin but respect his point of view. Sometimes other opinions sway mine or influence an overall perspective just part of debating an opinion.

Anybody seen the official depth chart released today?

I know everybody saw Miller getting the nod over Thomas.

How about Clay over Sims? I can't say I'm surprised. I don't know all the intimate details, but I would've liked Sims to have won the job outright.

I suspect that by next Monday Morning he'll have it.

Agreed Fin4.

There's a way ADULTS conduct themselves when they have differing opinions.

And then there's an idiotic and immature way that certain people try to twist and turn everything into confrontation.

I know I'm wasting my breath on this utterly useless piece of trailer park trash here, but I've made my point nonetheless.

PS: Can you imagine being so immature that Odin can call you on it-LOL? Yep, that's our resident Troll.

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