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Dolphins 'concerned' about moving Martin

A football team is usually a tightly knit group of individuals who depend on each other for community success. And when one member of the group fails, there are repercussions on other members.

Jonathan Martin, meet the repercussions.

Martin's fate with the Dolphins has not been entirely in his hands but instead has been determined by the actions of others.

Having played left tackle his final year at Stanford, he was drafted by the Dolphins and immediately placed at right tackle because the Dolphins had Jake Long. When Long got hurt, Martin, through no function of what he was doing, was moved to left tackle.

And when Long decided he rather play for the St. Louis Rams, Martin was left in limbo while the Dolphins searched for another left tackle. Again, Martin did nothing to either solidify himself as the left tackle nor lose the left tackle job.

He simply was caught by fate's whims.

The Dolphins found no suitable left tackle replacement for Long this offseason although they hosted Bryant McKinnie in free agency, studied a handful of left tackle possibilities in the draft, and even explored trading for veteran Brandon Albert.

But because other people either weren't signed or drafted or acquired in trade, Martin was elected Miami's new left tackle.

Great, a place to settle the second-year player, right?

Wrong.

Immediately, the Miami offensive line was a trouble spot and right tackle was the most beseiged position on the team. That shouldn't affect the left tackle, right?

Well, wrong again because as McKinnie became available in trade and he has never taken a practice snap at right tackle let alone played a game there, the Dolphins acquired him and expect him to play left tackle.

(Dolphins coach Joe Philbin would not say McKinnie is exclusively a left tackle but the entire NFL knows it and not admitting it insults everyone's intelligence.)

Anyway, McKinnie's arrival means Martin, through no fault of his own, gets switched again. He's played 11 1/2 games at right tackle and 10 1/2 games at left tackle and he's soon about to increase that number on the right side.

And Tuesday it was clear Martin isn't thrilled about the move.

“You can approach this two different ways," Martin said. “You can go in the tank and be one of those guys who bitches and moans and is a cancer in the locker room, or you can be a guy who goes out there and can be a professional and plays as hard as I can."

Martin says he'll be the latter. He'll be a good teammate -- even as he's scratching his head about why he's been affected by Clabo's inability to do his job and McKinnie's inability to play on the right side.

Philbin did admit there is concern that shuffling Martin around so much (which he doesn't even confirm is happening, by the way) might be bad for the player.

“You are always concerned," the coach said. "Any time you move a player, there’s always some concern about it. You have to take that in consideration if you do in fact decide to move somebody."

But all concerns aside the Dolphins are going to do it. Indeed, they even did during practice Tuesday. Martin said he worked at both right tackle and left tackle within the same practice.

You don't think that messes with his technique a little?

Martin has said before he prefers to play at left tackle. He feels more comfortable there. It comes more naturally to him. He tried to get stronger in the offseason to prepare for playing the position. He has a future there.

No, he's not likely going to be a Pro Bowl left tackle, but he surely can develop into a solid left tackle and that has value.

Yet that development has been detoured now. Did Martin have anything to do with that detour?

No.

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P78, we know how Wilson does behind a line that can't block. he has more turnovers than TDs too. He gets bailed out by a superior running game and a coach that wants to run and a defense that knows how to play and forces the issue and causes an incredibly high # of turnovers.
That is the diff between Miami and Seattle. We have this passive style of play on defense - they do not and they impose themselves on the running game.

martin has nobody to blame but himself. he stunk as much at left tackle as he did at right tackle. he's lucky that he's starting period.

I'm glad Martin is going to be a good soldier.

Alternatively the team could've just slid Jerry over the RT and inserted Garner at RG. Either way, you move two positions on the line. Which is harder to pull off? I don't know.

If Martin played better at LT, the team would not move him. He has been a disappointment.

Martin's best role in the NFL is being a swing OT. Maybe he is actually developing into that.

I don't get this blog.... In a previous one, Salguero says he understands and approves of the trade for McKinnie. Now, he's basically slamming the Fins for moving Martin again. So what should the Fins do? Play with 2 left tackles next to each other?

Mark, I think the Dolphins basically told everyone they don't think Garner can be good enough to start and Jerry is good enough to move.

I remember Garner started for Sparano and did just fine.

I would normally say, the coaches know best. But after what I've seen the past three weeks, I'm not so sure they know best any more.

Martin is a decent LT, but a mediocre RT based on last year's performance.

Will Martin be a net improvement over Clabo? At least Martin cannot be any worse.

Right side or left side who gives a flying F! Get your fat a** in there and do the best you can. Regular people switch roles at there job all the time its called you adapt. "More comfrotable on the left side"

Hello! Your servicable at best on either side. Freaking weakling

The question isn't if he's a ProBowler at LT, the question becomes what do the Dolphins think JM's future is with the Dolphins. He's in his 2nd year, so still rookie contract, so he's on the team for the next 2 years minimum. Will be become a backup (meaning the team plans to draft/acquire LT & RT help in the offseason)? Do they think after this year he'll move back to LT and they pick-up a RT? Or keep him at RT and pick up a LT? THAT more than anything else should dictate what happens to Martin.

Since they made this move, it leads me to think the team sees him as an RT and that's it. If he's the starter at LT next year, it will lead me to believe:
1) Ireland EFFED up by not picking up a quality LT to start
2) There is absolutely no symbiosis between the GM/scouts and the coaching staff

GS @ 12:12, yeah sounds like it. Or else they could've just saved the meaningless late draft pick. But like you I also reserve doubt that these guys actually have a grasp on this team and how to mainpulate their roster properly and efficiently.

Not sure whats worse at this point, Ireland drafting the players or Philbin coaching them.

Are Ross and Garfinkel even capable of conducting a competent GM/HC search and hire process?

Theres a reason Philbin has never been a head coach in this league, wonder if his stubbornness has anything to do with it. Just WTH did he do for the Packers, break down game tape? Its time to send Charlie Brown packing!

Ireland is a gloried ball boy from Bill Parcell days. He is not qualified. Look what Rick Spielman is doing to the vikings for God's sake. A repeat of when he was destroying the Dolphins. Dumbo needs to sell team. New owner needs to hire Bill Belichick. Until then...No Super bowl ever.

This is a total mess where do we go from here

Just what does speilman bring to the table the Vikings suck

DC, I think the McKinnie move clearly confirms what we all see. martin can fill in as a left tackle in this league and play there if you have nobody else but by no means should he be the guy you WANT there. Like I said yesterday, he was the happiest guy that Clabo got to stick around so long, he's been dodging bullets for his craptastic play all year.

Philbin throws Rich Gannon out of a conference because Gannon called him out on the bad practiced he witnessed. What a stubborn a hole

'Through no fault of his own'?......

Geez, how does that work? Martin's been average at LT at best. How many sacks has he given up? He's well on his way to double digits. How is it that Clabo gets ripped by everyone and yet Martin gets a free pass. I think Martin has shown he's a mediocre LT. I'd draft a LT early in April and move him back to RT. he's not good enough at LT.

It's evident that we hired the wrong coach his main problem is he does not adapt

6yrs in with this fo, now on pace to have worst Dolphins oline ever. Astonishing!

At least this season as p78 mentioned on the last blog enforces how important OTs are in this league. Just as important as WRs, TEs, CBs, DEs, and the rest.

We must be ready to hire a coach who is young and a inavator who is hungry for a challenge Mike Shula anyone ?

Craig, the answer to your question is easy. Martin has been bad, there isn't an adjective strong enough for what Clabo was. He made Colombo look like a Pro Bowler by comparison. Think about it. Clabo did in six games what Colombo did in 16 regarding sacks allowed.

And you're right, martin is not a LT starter. backup perhaps, not starter. I think Jerry played better in the Matt Moore experience than martin played since.

Why do I have a feeling Brady is going to be AFC offensive player of the week next week. Or will it be Gronk?

I still like this defence a lot. Iknow a lot of you. Guys are down on it right now and down on Coyle. Thy've been beat up all year and guys like Wake still aren't right.

The potential is still there for this to be a top 5 defence,if not thisyear then next. I still think this defence will win us some games this year.

Pilot and Shula should replace Ireland and philbin

I think DC is right in his earlier post. I think this team will move on from Martin as their LT next season. Does he become theRT or trade bait? We'll wait and see.

I mean pioali

My only real issue on defense are the 3RD and LONGS.

Been absolute insanity!

So Mark, you're saying we need a LT/RT next year (and maybe even a RG, or are we good with Jerry)? Ditch Garner and make JM a backup to the RT? Geez, good luck filling any other position we need fixed. Hope we can re-sign our players so we're not opening new holes.

We have not grown as a team since 2008 we are mediocre at best sub 500 it's just not acceptable period

"I think the guy's a bit lost right now. Maybe even shell shocked. They're trying to get him to get rid of the ball quicker and to have better pocket presence and I think he's thinking too much and it's messing up his rythymn. He doesn't look like the same guy to me."

Craig this is a great comment and I would like to add to it if I could. Square pegs in round holes. That is the theme for the season. They have mandadted to thill that they want him to get comfortable in the pocket. They told us they don't want the qb running around a lot because that's how they get injured. Tannehill is staying in that pocket do or die and it's hurting his game.

Sure he's doing better than last year but we can all see it can be more, and should be if he were allowed to do what he is best at. I feel like Sherman is handcuffing the kid and treating him like a baby, it's his boy from college after all. Tell him to USE HIS INSTINCTS! Stop trying to mold him into something he is not at this point. Let him grow into that pocket passer but when your line sucks this bad let the kid roam.

Running game is working? KEEP WITH IT! Why are these coaches always overthinking things? Just play to your players strengths until you get the pieces that will be able to run a zone blocking scheme.

We are a bad football team period

My only real issue on defense are the 3RD and LONGS.
Been absolute insanity!
Posted by: Sam I Am | October 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM
its b'cuz of the constant 3 + outs from tfumble. the d is beat.
lol

Bill polian

We are 3-3 let's see where we go from here,but the way I see it we will be around .500 or less to me that not good enough . This group gets the rest of the season no more than that

nov 1 = 3-5

Posted by: Truth | October 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Truth you bought right into Armandos opinion without reading through the lines and forming your own. Martin said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about being unhappy. Not one word, the statement doesn't read that way unless you twist the words around to make them mean what you want them to.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | October 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM

And why is no one admitting their original stance about olinemen. I know he's in here. But people love to scream and yell about their opinions until they are proven wrong, then they hide.

The Jets guy who punched the Pats girl....LOL! Shows how little class fans of those teams have.

"I think the guy's a bit lost right now. Maybe even shell shocked. They're trying to get him to get rid of the ball quicker and to have better pocket presence and I think he's thinking too much and it's messing up his rythymn. He doesn't look like the same guy to me."

Craig this is a great comment and I would like to add to it if I could. Square pegs in round holes. That is the theme for the season. They have mandadted to thill that they want him to get comfortable in the pocket. They told us they don't want the qb running around a lot because that's how they get injured. Tannehill is staying in that pocket do or die and it's hurting his game.

Sure he's doing better than last year but we can all see it can be more, and should be if he were allowed to do what he is best at. I feel like Sherman is handcuffing the kid and treating him like a baby, it's his boy from college after all. Tell him to USE HIS INSTINCTS! Stop trying to mold him into something he is not at this point. Let him grow into that pocket passer but when your line sucks this bad let the kid roam.

Running game is working? KEEP WITH IT! Why are these coaches always overthinking things? Just play to your players strengths until you get the pieces that will be able to run a zone blocking scheme.

Bottom line is this is Ireland's fault seeing as how we had the 3rd pick in the friggin draft and there tackles too be had, good ones, but we decided to draft Dion Jordan instead. You know our biggest strength, defensive line, clearly we needed another end and one who can't start or stop the run. I'm so over the moronic moves this regime has made. This years draft has zero impact guys on the team currently. Sturgis is probably the best pick we had, Sims sucks, Gillislee is a waste, Two cb's who get injured a lot...... Ugh

Jj from the last blog (LOL) I know no one is being shot at but some of our "fans" in here are talking about next years draft and benching the qb.

That shows an incredible inability to deal with adversity. It shows me when the s$#t hits the fan those guys will be either running or peeing their pants. Have to be strong and fight, you don't give up before the battle is over. This protecting your fragile ego bs is for girls.

Just my opinion which is probably worth around 2 cents!

Armando....

Martin has himslef to blame....

there are no pity parties in the NFL....

Do your job...or get replaced...@ the end of the day....the LINE is about beating the man who lines up acrss your face....

To many times...Martin and his OL budies are taking the beaten,,,

Kudos to the staff for trying to get this right....

The question is....is it too late.....

Posted by: Jackoff1 | October 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM

hahaha no one cared the first time, the correction was unnecessary, ANDDDDDD, you spelled it wrong again.

The reality is simple. Martin isn't very good, period. If he doesn't make great strides in the rest of the season we have to figure out how to replace BOTH tackles next year. The one thing I don't understand is how we are taking Martin, who has struggled at LT, and putting him at RT where he is LESS COMFORTABLE. And THEN, we sign "BIG MAC" (Not great being named after a McDonald's burger) who is one of the worst LT in the league and placing him on the other side. Have we just traded some problems for more problems? And now these problems become MY problems because I have to watch the results.

Martin stinks...say what a scout said about him coming out of the draft ....I HOPE HE COMES TO OUR DIVISION ..HE SOFT AS A PILLOW..HE LOOKS TO BE A GOOD BACKUP GUARD...MEANING IS..ANOTHER JEFF IRELAND BUST.

DC, I think he sticks around just because you don't want to replace the entire line. Personally I'd rather keep Jerry too but my vote doesn't count and this is just another player that I think is not utilized properly by these guys.

I'm hoping they find some guys in free agency and Thomas improves to rebuild the line so they can free up the draft choices ... But there will at least be a new tackle and guard that were not on the team this year.

Phins 78...

great points about my post from the last blog...

I may be objective...but perhaps I am unbalanced in my praise vs. critisisim of Tanne....

I'm gonna work on that....

Phins78,

Well said at 12:37pm. Previous regime tried to handcuff Henne. Didn't work well.

I want the kid to succeed but I need to see more.

Gotta go guys.

P78 great points, Thill needs a mobile passing option at the line if scrimmage every time he gets under center. Let's please for the love of god move Wallace around and create this thing called MISMATCHES!!!!!! Oh and get the ball to Thigpen lots more, because Thomas is a bust, sure he was ok this week but he can't break a run for a long gain and can't bulldoze like Bettis so he's an slightly below average to average option at best. Miller is dynamic and is a threat to break it open every time he touches the ball. Thigpen is great option out of backfield to motion to the slot and he can motor. Defense is looking fine, I'd like more turnovers and better edge contain on runs but the gameplan was better this past week.

My 12:58 goes for Tanne as well....

Back to work....

We might have gotten a break gentlemen. There are stories all over that Belichick is still steaming about being accused of cheating. It's become a distraction over there, so much so that Belichick took the time to go over the film looking for plays the Jets cheated on. He found one and has sent it to the league. I have to believe this took time away from game planning. The Dolphins have moved on and Bill is still worrying about last weeks game. Hopefully we get a slight edge from that.

P78, not only that but our blog host also said that o line has never scored a TD or won games. Yeah, but they can lose them was my replay and a year later ... what do we have here??

Hate to admit it:), but I also agree with Craig on Tannehill being "shell shocked." The kid has taken a beating, and is still keeping this team competitive. Also agree with Phins78 @ 12:35. Coaches are NOT helping their young qb, as many of us have been saying. I think it's unreasonable to draft a qb with his limited experience and expect him to carry the team...

Posted by: Jj | October 23, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Great point Jj...and Phins78...but really do you think I want THill to sit because he is not tough enough to handle the pressure he has been put under? No, not my reasoning at all, but quite the contrary...I want him to survive the season without any major mental breakdowns or major injuries. I don't want us having to waste another first round pick on another project QB. Lets face it the kid was iffy under Sherman at the collegic level and now he is expected to carrie the team under constant fire at the NFL level and we except that as just part of becoming a good pocket passer???? Maybe I am a bit behind the times or just plain stupid, not sure which at this point, or am I just missing the logic of throwing away a season to prove a point?

The offensive gameplan this week better be on a whole new level .

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/male-jets-fan-questioned-allegedly-punching-female-pats-fan-article-1.1491864

Found the link guys, typical Jets fan.

If they're not throwing bottles or spitting on women for not showing their breasts they are beating them. I can't imagine the amount of domestic dispute calls that are made after a Jets loss.

This week's game will be two struggling offenses playing against two capable defenses. If NE shuts down our run, we are finished.

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