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Keys to the game: Raven

I believe Sunday's game with the Ravens is truly a toss up. That speaks to how much respect the Dolphins have gained from a year ago ... and how weakened the Ravens are (particularly on offense) from a season ago when they won the Super Bowl.

Here's how I break it down:

When the Dolphins pass the football: The Dolphins have won four consecutive home games and it’s no coincidence Ryan Tannehill likes the venue because in his last three home games, the quarterback has completed 67 percent of his throws and has six TD passes against only one interception. All three Miami wide outs – Brian Hartline, Mike Wallace and Brandon Gibson have enjoyed past success against the Ravens. The Baltimore secondary is without Ed Reed, but the Ravens haven’t suffered in their third-down efficiency, ranking sixth in the NFL on that key passing down. The Dolphins are tied for worst in the NFL protecting their quarterback, yielding 18 sacks. Terrell Suggs is on a tear with four sacks and 10 QB hits. Oh boy. ADVANTAGE: Even.

When the Dolphins run the football: Lamar Miller is averaging 5.8 yards per carry the last three games and has a touchdown in two of the past three games. The Dolphins running game has enjoyed slow but steady improvement since the season-opener. But the Dolphins simply don’t run that often. The Dolphins are rushing the football 33 percent of the time not factoring the scramble runs by Tannehill. The Ravens rush defense is statistically mediocre – 16th in the NFL. With nose tackle Haloti Ngata, defensive end Chris Canty and linebacker Daryl Smith all playing well the Ravens should be better against the run. Obviously, they’re not maximizing in this department. ADVANTAGE: Dolphins.

When the Ravens run the football:  The Ravens offensive line is not playing as well as it did last year during their Super Bowl run despite being mostly intact from that time. Perhaps the team really misses center Matt Birk. There’s no doubt left tackle Bryant McKinnie, overweight and getting older, is not playing well and is getting replaced by recently acquired Eugene Monroe. Running back Ray Rice, a three-time Pro Bowl player and the second-leading rusher in club history, is suddenly ineffective. Rice is averaging only 3.0 yards per carry and getting fewer touches than Bernard Pierce. The Ravens have promised to get Rice more involved and as his abilities somewhat resemble those of Darren Sproles, who gashed the Dolphins last week, that may is not good news for Miami. ADVANTAGE: Even.

When the Ravens pass the football: Joe Flacco had a terrible day last week against Buffalo, throwing five interceptions against a secondary missing three of four starters. That has not been Flacco’s history against the Dolphins, however, because in two previous meetings he’s thrown three TD passes without an interception and posted a 125.3 quarterback rating. If he has a similar game this time, history says the Dolphins lose because the Ravens are 28-3 when Flacco’s rating is over 100. The Ravens are diminished on the outside with the loss of Anquan Bolden. Torrey Smith is their only consistent weapon. The Miami secondary is still smarting from last week’s toasting at the hands of Drew Brees and help is not on the way because starting cornerback Dimitri Patterson is going to miss his fourth consecutive game. Watch out for the Ray Rice vs. Phillip Wheeler match up. ADVANTAGE: Ravens.

Special teams: The Ravens were outstanding on special teams last season and if you don’t think so, recall that kickoff return touchdown by Jacoby Jones in the Super Bowl. Jones has been injured much of this year and the special teams play was a nightmare in the season-opener, but the Ravens are still pretty good. Tandon Doss has a Week 3 punt return TD. These two teams also cover pretty well, with the Ravens holding a slight edge on punts and the Dolphins holding a slight edge on kickoffs. In a game that may come down to a field goal, Caleb Sturgis has so far been more accurate on long-range kicks than Justin Tucker. ADVANTAGE: Even.

Coaching: This is a study of differing approaches. Last week both teams suffered painful losses. Baltimore coach Jim Harbaugh publicly challenged his offensive line, vowed to make changes concerning the use of his running back and basically sent the message that things were not right and needed fixing. Miami coach Joe Philbin kept calm, isn’t making any big lineup changes and certainly has not challenged anyone publicly, not even an offensive line that has allowed 18 sacks. No idea which approach is better. We’ll see. ADVANTAGE: Even.

Intangibles: Which team is less tolerant of tough times? Both had a tough week following bad losses. The pride of both teams is being measured now. Who responds? OVERALL ADVANTAGE: Even.

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Deya go!!!

Tannehill is still having difficulty with the speed of the pro game. He is very slow to make a decision resulting in both sacks and turnovers. He has to get quicker if he wants to continue to be a starter.

Advantage EVEN when Ravens run the ball??? No way dude...clear ADVANTAGE for the Phins!!! Rice burned the Phins last week yes...but in the PASS GAME!!! not teh run game...Saints had total TEAM rushing yards of 68...Advantage: DOLPHINS

And after that 3rd and an inch call and execution if there is any EVEN in the run game...it's when the Phins run the ball...so I'd say when Phins run the ball advantage: EVEN...when Ravens run the ball advantage: DOLPHINS...but that's just like...my opinion man...

As high as some stoners were on Ryan TannREACHes prospects, he’s continuing to show disturbing tendencies toward sacks and fumbles
At the quarter-season mark, the Dolphins TanneFAIL QB leads the NFL in both categories.

jpao,

We lost the game Vs. N.O. because of mistakes and horrible play calling!

Explain to me how your #1 RB is basically eating up close to 10 Yds. a clip then on a 4th and an inch (I've seen refs call those 1st downs and wonder if when showed the measurement on TV was alone in my thinking given you couldn't have squeezed a sheet of paper through that supposed 4th down measurement) then call a toss sweep with your backup RB, instead of something up the gut? Tannehill should have gone behind Pouncey and picked it up. That play netting 3 points already had us chasing N.O. in a track meet game.

AND I SAY TRACK MEET GAME BUT WE WERE THE ONES WHO TURNED AN EARLY FIELD POSITION GAME INTO ONE DUE TO MISTAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!

And FOR GOD'S SAKE PUT IN MORE DOUBLE T.E. FORMATIONS WHICH CAN HELP SLOW DOWN THE DE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Inside I see Cogs (getting a pass) giving up alot of inside pressure as well, no wonder he, Jerry and Clabo are all slated for 2014 FA while some of you have been harping CAP space and the DT's it's me whose been reminding you all about this OL issue were even Pouncey has stunk it up at times but at least he's trying to help in protection and gets caught out of position.

The mistakes really pilled up in contributing to this loss, how about Wallace dropping what would have been a 91 Yd TD at a point we were within a score of taking the lead. I almost felt he threw the game purposely (N.O. HOMER) watching him play! If he catches that pass with BFF Keenan Lewis jumping for the swat at the ball Wallace (ball went through hands scores easily on the longest TD Rec. in team history!)

The Tannehill pick hurt BAD before the half because replay showed R.Matthews hand extended running alone about 15 Yds behind the D which was sitting on the slants knowing that Tannehill goes to it (safety) before challenging coverage. On that one had Tanne seen Matthews and Wallace caught his team record TD we go into the half 24-14 with 2 bombs for scores and if not for the ridiculous toss sweep to Thomas maybe 28-14 and it's a different game given our Front-7 was eating it up early.

Some of you feel the team exposed by loss, I personally feel I saw a team that beat itself and by the way abandoning the run which had put up 115 1st half Yds only further illustrates this. I won't jump on N.Carroll to much because on his pick attempt before the half he would have scored getting us back in the game and I can live with that the way I did with Terrell Buckley and his gambling back in the day at least he tried to make a game changing play after Tannehill's VERY UGLY PICK.

Home...the SS called it wants its clown back...

Put a double T.E. formation in the game and run right at Dummerville who was always susceptible to it. Forget anything inside with N'Gata and Terrance Cody in their. The LB's and Safety's are were you can hurt Baltimore, use your T.E.'s in this one!

Run Miller, run !! We have to create some balance or Tanny is going to get killed with this OLINE...it stenches like old fish in the refrigerator.
Ireland had his chance to get Brandon Albert, which would have put Martin at RT, where he belongs...with Pouncey and Icognito, Oline would have been okay.

I fear that Tanny is going to get whacked and then this promising start is going to be wasted. Ireland needs to go out and make a trade for a lineman or two...NOW. All those teams that have started out poor probably would take picks for next year. If Phins can run and pressure Flacco, they can go 4-1,go to bye, recoup and rest, then get Bills at Home, probably without EJ Manuel and got to 5-1 !! Saints loss and stenchy oline will all be forgotten. Run, MILLER, RUN !!!

Posted by: fin4life | October 05, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Based on watching the first 3 QTRS where the game was already lost to NO, I have to completely agree with fin4life...Miami's mistakes caused the loss as much as NO beat them. The failed attempt at 3rd and inches, the THILL fumble on the run during a great drive, the INT with less than 2 minutes left in first half....those plays killed them. Martin allowed a big sack in the 3rd. Clabo allowed a big sack in the 3rd. Both killed drives. Wallace drops the long ball and Wallace dropped another sure first down in the 3rd. He looked bad on his 'home field.' Only one deep ball to Wallace called by Sherman...really?

But we can't overlook the lack of pass rush and poor secondary play and poor play by Wheeler that allowed Brees to pick the Defense apart when each Fins mistake was made.

THILL and the Defense caused this loss in the end.

OK....I reviewed first three quarters (every drive). I will spare the 4th QTR.

Good things in the NO game:

Clay looked great.
Hartline looked good.
Odrick and Solai looked good.
Jalani Jenkins looked decent.
Miller looked good on the run.
THILL made very good throws in most drives.

Bad things in the NO game:

Wallace looked distracted all game with too many drops.
THILL didn't protect the ball on his first big run and lead to fumble.
THILL INT was his fault but really the CB just played it really well jumping route.
Clabo looked good in the run but really bad at times in the pass.
Wheeler can't cover RB's at all.
Carroll made several good plays but his INT attempt that allowed the Spoles TD was VERY costly.
Clemmons and Jones were supposed to be a team strength but they are a mess in coverage.

I am actually thinking the Fins will rebound this week and beat the Ravens. With their run game improving and THILL doing well overall...I say they will score more than 20 points. Philbin will tighten up the team and they will make less mistakes. They will get Wallace into this game, even if they have to force it to him at times. Miller will run almost always and I don't see Thomas getting more than 4 runs all game. Clay will have another big game.

With the Ravens' banged up a bit I don't see them scoring more than 20. Even with our poor pass rush (without Wake) and poor secondary play last week in NO.

Miami 24 and Baltimore 17.

Miami will be 4 and 1 heading into the bye week. Go MIAMI!!!!

But we can't overlook the lack of pass rush and poor secondary play and poor play by Wheeler that allowed Brees to pick the Defense apart when each Fins mistake was made.

THILL and the Defense caused this loss in the end.

The fumble on a very good drive escaped me for the moment and your right because early we were step for step. Although I will tell you this watching last Yrs. front-4 of Solia and Starks inside with Odrick at DE missing only Wake on the field looked alot better than what we'd shown till then this Season. My point was we're not good enough to beat ourselves. I had a BAD feeling after watching the Pats beat up on Atlanta while remembering how lucky we were to win that one but that was due to the Falcons gashing us up front. I think if the injuries to the DL showed anything it's that we need to go back to what worked given we looked awfully tough up front in that game even if pass rush suffered which will have to wait till Wake's return and DJ has to start showing something because Mingo (same player but at OLB) is looking very good.

BTW...this Patterson groin injury is looking pretty bad....I can't believe he misses 4 games with a groin injury? Get on the damn field and contribute.

Odrick really looked good in the NO game. Starks can whine all he wants but Odrick outplayed him for sure.

They need to sign Solai and they can let Starks go if he demands too much. Don't get me wrong I'd love to keep all three but in the end Odrick and Solai are a great force.

WATCH OUT FOR BIZ MARKIE'S UGLY YOUNGER BROTHER...OR GODZILLA SON...GODZOOKY..TERRELL SUGGS .WHEN HE SACKS TANNEHILL HE'S GONNA GO FOR THE BALL OR SHOULDER..WE GOT TO GET ON THEM EARLY CAN GET THEM TO START PLAYING WITH CONFIDENCE OR WE WILL LOSE..THE FINS ALWAYS GIVE UP A TD ON DEFENSE IN THE FIRST DRIVE...CAN'T LET THIS RAVENS TEAM DO THAT.

THILL INT was his fault but really the CB just played it really well jumping route.
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I suggest you go back and watch this play again! The CB jumped the route because the book's already in on what Tannehill likes in that situation (his starring down the route doesn't help either) On the play (watch it again) You'll notice Matthews (I believe it was him) running a GOOD 15 YARDS behind everybody, it was a MISSED opportunity for a very BIG play before the half!

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Clabo looked good in the run but really bad at times in the pass.

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Every run Miller had with 5 plus was going off LT, we had ZERO going right, simply don't go that way and in the future teams will overload that way. I was a big fan of bringing him in but age has caught him and he's a big liability. Agree with Mando about Jerry out there and Garner and Watkins getting a look at RG

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Wheeler can't cover RB's at all.

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In his defense he's a 3/4 MLB switched to WOLB (DIFFERENT Pos.) and we should have adjusted our S.Safety Jones up at the line to deal with Sproles.

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Carroll made several good plays but his INT attempt that allowed the Spoles TD was VERY costly.

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Carroll's play was costly but after the Tanne pick he was thinking pick-6 of his own and won't falt his aggressive play!

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Clemmons and Jones were supposed to be a team strength but they are a mess in coverage.

Clemmons was NEVER that great and Jones seems to have taken the money and now look after his health looking to get rich of the game, isn't the 1st and won't be the last, for our misfortune he plays for us.

Publicado por: jpao | October 05, 2013 at 11:50 AM

BTW...this Patterson groin injury is looking pretty bad....I can't believe he misses 4 games with a groin injury? Get on the damn field and contribute.

Publicado por: jpao | October 05, 2013 at 11:59 AM

He's gone after the Season and we should see what we have in the rookie's already! This isn't and NEVER was a SB HYPED team, not even by the HARDCORE FANS on here. So play them and we all understand that like Chicago were a strong OL draft class from really getting into contention another RB wouldn't hurt either!

WHAT UP WIT Patterson ? IS HE TRYING TO SAVE HIMSELF FOR NEXY YEARS FREE AGENCY....AND TRYING TO LIVE OFF THOSE 2 PICKS OFF THE BROWNS GAME..ISN'T DREW HIS AGENT?

APPLEJACKSON411 | October 05, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Patterson,

Was a very good young CB for the Eagles but injuries always dogged him, ironically they let him walk when the y picked up Nandi, DRC and had Asante, BIG mistake given when Patterson and Sheldon Brown were there the Eagles always had a SOLID D!

Fin4life,

100% agree with you, mistakes kills us, especially the INT.

The score was 10-14 and we could go to the half leading 17-14 or trailing by 1 or 4 pts without the Int and starting the 2 half with the ball!

I don't remember Matthews on that play but i remember Mike Sherman taking his hands on his head after that Int.

4-1 tomorrow, go phins!!

Go Fins!!!
Big Game tomorrow!!!
Time to a message.

Time to SEND a message.

When LV says one Team is a 3 point favorite, it means they consider those 2 Teams equal in overall ability. The 3 points one way or the other come from the Home field advantage. No need to break your head over match ups. The quantum Computers in LV have it all digested for you and just waiting for you to bet for/against their line. In these even Games the victor almost always comes from the Team that has come with the best Game Plan and that executes it best.

Can we actually play defense ?

^^^^^^^^^

lol....

Hey Oscar how ya doing

Not 2:17....

but 2:11....

such uncanny insight....

Writers and bloggers continue to mention CB Patterson's injury every single game. Third game he doesn't play, Fourth game is not playing. Forget about Patterson! He is not going to play in the future. Don't count on him any more. Count only in the ones (good or bad) we presently have. His injury and his salary will result in his being cut.

This is going to be a long day against Ray rice he will feast on us all day long

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Ryan Tannehill = David Carr

No arguments there at 2:11, are there?

By Greg Stoda

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

DAVIE —
The Dolphins miss Reggie Bush.

That should come as no surprise, but, hey, maybe they’re unconcerned about having a lousy running game through the first quarter of the season. Or maybe they don’t want to admit they made a mistake by letting Bush take a free-agent walk to Detroit after two productive seasons in Miami.

Now he’s being productive for the Lions while the Dolphins try to figure out how to get Lamar Miller and Daniel Thomas clicking.

HAVENT MOST OF US BEEN ASKING THIS QUESTION WHEN THEIR WAS PLENTY OF CAP ROOM??

Very easy to find fault, especially after the fact. C'mon, c'mon how would you Game plan against the Ravens? We need solutions here and not more questions.

Im guessing we will have a whole new offensive line next year if things don't change drastically. Also I think the fins come out swinging this week to prove they are for real. Hopefully the defense comes back with a bite and Tannehill rebounds also.

Are you guys watching a Game? Very few have written here for the past 2 hrs.

Home = The end result of father sister incestuous rape.....

Just 5 games ago Harbaugh and team figured out how to beat SF in the SB.
Did Harbaugh not watch Monday nights game?
Did Brees and company not show everybody how you eat the Dolphins?
Is it not the same gfame plan that I've been predicting ever since I exposed the fraud for the first time 6 months ago?
B'more is gonna go deep frequently, they are going to put us in a hole and Tanne is going to have to pass everydown to get out of it at which point Suggs and Dumerville are going to tee off.

Hate to say it but Phins will get booed at home tomorrow.

NHL > NFL

I have 16 skaters plus Crawford and Niemi in goal tonight, I will bury my opponent tonight and win the first weekly matchup.

This goes on everyday of the NHL season which won't end until next June.

Okay , bloggers, a question: In light of what has already transpired, do we still defer to the opposing offense if we win the toss?

Just wondering what the assembled thoughts are on this?

ETF, Maybe Miami will try some"Back-door" football.......

biggest game of season so far better step up

Some Dolphin followers have suggested moving Wallace around in the offense, or placing him in motion, to put him in different positions, thus changing the look for opposing defenses.

Coach Philbin has replied that doing so sometimes causes confusion for the up-tempo offense that is being used. He then offered that we should not look for any deviation from that approach.

Just wondering however, if implementing more movement would mandate slowing down the rate of attack, so that the players are possibly then in better sync, and at the same time, allowing the young T-Hill to have a little more time to read the opposing defense and better assess the coverages.

Maybe sometimes being too vanilla, or predictable isn't a good thing.

Dunno, but wondering what others think.

Cuban,
How's it going?
Prior to NoodleArm signing a $10mil contract here, without taking a physical, NOBODY on this site ever asked for the Phins to run the wildcat.

Since NoodleArm went on disability no one has asked for the team to run the wildcat.

So what's up? It was BACKDOOR football and I called it in this blog the first game they used it which was game 3 2008.

Bottoms, I had the Mighty Air-Breathing Aquatic Mammals at 1 and 4 going into the break,That there 3 and 1 I'am happy, Even if they lose to the Ravins There 3 and 2 with no Division gae loses. I got to say after the break all are the MUST win games.....
IMHO..

Cuban,
1 more thing: earlier in the week the Herald ran a story that after 20 games Tanne most resembles Henne:
Through 20 starts Henne: 10-10 Tanne: 9-11
Through 20 starts Henne 20Td 20 int Tanne 16Td 18int

But consider that Henne was pulled in the red zone 20 times and his WRs were Camarillo and Ginn and his runners were Ricky & Ronnie neither of who gained more than 600 yds season by that point in thier careers.

Henne did a lot more with the pile of crap he had to work with than Tanne has done with better players and way better coaching.

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | October 05, 2013 at 07:54 PM

ETF, I remember.......LOL

Buster @ 7:53

What I took from your post is that if we slow down the offense a little to get Wallace Better opportunites then we should do it.

I agree 100% - take every second between plays because that has the secondary effect of keeping the opposing team's offense on the sidelines longer.

The Dolphins are 3-1 with one game left in the toughest part of their schedule on paper.One game tommorrow if they win 4-1 with 11 games left.
This blog is for nitpickers even when they were 3-0 the same whiners were posting the same nonsense.
I dont care about individual stats thats for the FO to worry about I care about wins and losses and TEAM STATS.
Tommorrow I will post the terrible results against NO where they lost all three categories of the TEAM STATS that I record,first time this year,first loss this year you think its a coincedence I dont.

KingShula,
Winning is better than losing especially after all of the shananigans of the past 6 years.

But this blog is the most entertaining when it goes nuclear.

I cannot imagine that any team in the league that we play will not do what NO did: throw deep early and often, put us in a hole, and force us to throw every down.

That is the exploitation of the 2 weeknesses on this team: secondary and O-line.

And another thing:

Cle had the ball last with a chance to win on last drive
Indy had the ball last with a chance to win on last drive
Atl was winning when we got the ball for the last drive.

My point? We didn't blow out our first 3 opponents, we barely won against a Cle team without Josh, an Indy team without Ballard and Atl that was without both starting Tackles.


Some Dolphin followers have suggested moving Wallace around in the offense, or placing him in motion, to put him in different positions, thus changing the look for opposing defenses.

Coach Philbin has replied that doing so sometimes causes confusion for the up-tempo offense that is being used. He then offered that we should not look for any deviation from that approach.

Just wondering however, if implementing more movement would mandate slowing down the rate of attack, so that the players are possibly then in better sync, and at the same time, allowing the young T-Hill to have a little more time to read the opposing defense and better assess the coverages.

Maybe sometimes being too vanilla, or predictable isn't a good thing.

Dunno, but wondering what others think.

Posted by: Buster | October 05, 2013 at 07:53 PM
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Buster, what I see is a HC relying heavily on his staff. What they want is rubber stamped by Joe. If Sherman calls a loser play, Philbin will not change it. If everybody and his brother thinks that Coyle's too cute with stunts, Philbin will turn a blind eye. Everything is the palyers fault, never heard yet I/we coaches failed. Reminds me of the last regime and that's not good.

cocoajoe,
Sherman is calling the same plays he won the SB with.

That is a night & day difference between this staff and Soprano.

ETF, The big Difference is Miami won those games, Where years past they would have found a way to lose them....

Okay , bloggers, a question: In light of what has already transpired, do we still defer to the opposing offense if we win the toss?Just wondering what the assembled thoughts are on this?Posted by: Buster

Buster: I hate deferring the coin flip. I want to dictate to the other team early and no better way then getting on the board 1st! Have never been a fan of deferring. Spo' loved it. Enough said.

I don't have a strong opinion on deferring one way or the other.

ETF, that's your answer? You do know that Sherman didn't call the plays, right? Right?

ETF: Hate to bust your bubble, but Ricky was a better runner all the way to his last year with Balt then anyone we have now. Having said that, we spent $12m per year on a wr (who we don't even throw to) and we couldn't find $4-5M/yr. for our best playmaker, BEST PLAYMAKER! and hardest worker on thebteam. A guy who set a great example by staying late after practice and working while the rest of our players rush to their smartphones! Yeah, you know the guy I'm talking about. Bush put points on the board, but I guess we are better off with D. Thomas. LOL!

Deferring is good if it works out and bad if it doesn't, but I don't think that carries over from one game to the next.
The one exception: if teams are making good adjustments against us at halftime and we are not making good adjustments then we should not defer.

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