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Dolphins starting to string embarrassments together

How has this Dolphins season, only seven games old, already been something of an embarrassment?

Consider:

We start with Mike Pouncey pictured wearing a cap requesting the release of suspected murderer Aaron Hernandez. The picture hits the Internet and causes a public outrage. When Pouncey wants to apologize for photo to quell the public indignation, as his brother Maurkice immediately did on the advice of his team the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dolphins forbid the center from saying anything. They apparently think saying nothing will make those offended feel better.

They also forbid Pouncey from saying anything after is subpoenaed to testify in front of a Grand Jury in relation to the Hernandez trial. Glad to see the team learned a lesson. Not really.

Right tackle Jonathan Martin on Monday then goes AWOL from the team when he gets upset over a lunchroom prank by teammates. He hasn't been around for three days. But the Dolphins, who refuse to acknowlege the national story, list Martin as doubtful for tonight's game against Cincinnati.

Defensive tackle Randy Starks, upset he is demoted from his starting job after going to the Pro Bowl last year, celebrates a sack by shooting his bench a one-fingered salute. The player denies it publicly, but the gesture was aimed at the coaching staff.

It took receiver Mike Wallace one game to show his unhappiness with the Dolphins game plan when he wasn't targetted at all in the first half of the season opener and only five times all game. Wallace, by the way, has toned down his distaste for how he's being used publicly but not so much privately.

Other players are also questioning the approach of offensive coordinator Mike Sherman. Guard Richie Incognito is unhappy Sherman stopped calling running plays in the second half of the New England loss and has been public about the Dolphins abandoning that which was working.

"I think we should just keep running the football 30, 40 times a game," Incognito says. "That's our blueprint for success. We have to run the football for four quarters."

The dislike for Sherman's play-calling can be found throughout the Dolphins organization. One high-ranking person within the team is dumbfounded by Sherman's approach in some situations, saying the coach misses "101 stuff" -- meaning fundamental things.

Coach Joe Philbin's relationship with the media has grown tense and, earlier this week, even combative. It wasn't that way last year even during a 7-9 season. The difference this year is the increased influence of Executive Vice President of Football Administration Dawn Aponte, a member of the New York State bar and a Bill Parcells disciple. Aponte, originally hired to manage the salary cap underJeff Ireland, got from under the general manager's umbrella when the two clashed. She has become a close Philbin ally.

Aponte shadows Philbin during television interviews, radio interviews and press conferences. During one recent taping of Philbin's coaches' show, she stopped the taping to straighten the coach's tie.

The second-year coach meets with Aponte before every press conference and accepts advice on what to say to the media. Can you ever imagine Don Shula doing this? Aponte's typical advice is for Philbin to say as little as possible even though the mission statement from team owner Stephen Ross, Philbin's and Aponte's boss, was to have the Dolphins become a more transparent and fan-friendly organization after the Parcells departure.

Bottom line?

The Dolphins are trying to be just as insulated since the Parcells departure as before because Aponte believes in the approach. Except these Dolphins should probably concentrate more on improving their play than they do at honing their message. Except neither Aponte nor Philbin have any of Bill Parcells' credibility for winning anything, much less multiple Super Bowls. 

And it doesn't look like that will change this season.

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this is an angry miami TEAM right now, lots of pressure, jobs no doubt are in jeopardy, my advice...take all this frustration and anger and RE-FOCUS or AIM it directly at the cinncinati bengals tonight! why fight ourselves? it won't benefit anybody on this team, the fight is on the field, instead of causing your teamates, coaches and fans aggrevation and pain, come together as a TEAM, protectect your teamates, protect your jobs, and give cinncinati a hurting, a win makes everything better, another loss will make things worse, our last for opponants showed no mercy in giving us loss after loss, and those losses brought this once oppourtunistic team to what it is today...hey guys, the remaining schedule says that 12 and 4 is very doable, so get your game on, get angry, and show us what this miami dolphins TEAM can do!

Sorry Craig, but you've lost the plot here. Really man, Wilson is not winning as many games with the 21st ranked defense that also produces half the takeawys his current unit does. heck, I'd even let him keep the same running attack and he still wouldn't be 6-1. All he does is win, pff.

IN addition, the problem with Henne is he just couldn't produce. Still can't. he was always lousy in produces points, yards, red zone offense, tds to ints etc, etc. he was poor in all metrics.

At least Tannehill does some of those things well already.

And if you want to believe Brady was the main reason the Pats won those Super Bowls, feel free. But we all know he wasn't asked to do much. And it was actually bledsoe who threw a key td in a playoff game against Pitt that is often forgotten. But yeah, brady was a star year one.

If you don't understand that Wilson is asked to be Alex Smith this year then I don't know what to say. I guess if the 49ers won the super bowl with Alex Smith that year you'd say he was great and had the biggest impact on those teams too??

Hopefully we can all agree on that but if not....oh well.

I completely agree with Craig.

And the first thing I do if I'm Tannehill is take even more sacks. I'm not throwing the ball into traffic anymore because I want to avoid a sack. I'm not waiting one more second than I have to in the pocket before securing the ball and preparing for a hit.

In other words, I don't ruin my promising career because my coaches and offensive teammates (not wrs) can't play a full game of football. He needs to stop the turnovers. So go ahead and expose this lousy team for what they really are. Take 11 sacks, f$#k it.

When the qb has a running game and good blocking he regularly posts qbr's in the one hundreds.

When the qbs coaches abandon the game plan and try to turn Tannehill into Brady he falters.

If people can't see this I don't know what else to say. If that doesn't show you their are problems with the entire offense and you still want to place all of the bLAme on the QB be my guest. I'm done arguing my points.

Again Craig, I'm not defending Tannehill, I'm highlighting how much of an impact having other dominant units and producing more turnovers has on a club winning or not.... and how you can hide and dress up a less than stellar performance by a QB. Wilson, Tannehill, neither of them can shoulder the load. But one wins because he has a dominant unit on the other side.

Mark,

As I said 'Tannehill either directly or indirectly had a hand in three of the four losses'. You letting him off the hook completely for last week? Didn't he have another two picks and a fumble last week? You saying that didn't affect the game? What about when he missed he blitz and took a big sack that made it a much harder FG attempt. THAT'S the kind of stuff I'm talking about. the offence scored ZERO points in the second half last week. Please tell. Me Tannehill doesn't get a free pass from that. He had a hand in the loss, as he did in the Baltimore game. That may not be fair but it comes with the territory.

One other thing Mark,

When you talk about Matt Moore (who I know you don't like), you make reference to his .500 win percentage and 'the fact he can't beat any teams with winning records'.

So i'm confused....are you changing the argument when it supports your case?

craig i hope u bet on that rams-sea game. else u really need to get out more. sadly i watched the entire game cause i had seattle in a teaser but wow nobody should be forced to watch a game like that

Craig M..... you avoid answering poignant questions that will actually expose that you are debating this Tannehill issue just to debate.
Mark asked you what game of the 4 we lost has been directly lost by Tannehill?
Stop bringing up Henne....Henne is gone because Henne was not a NFL QB. Tannehill has already shown that if he has any talent step up around him that he can win. Case closed!

If Tannehill and Wilson are essentially the same, then it comes down to WINS AND LOSSES.

That's the bottom line. If Seattle was 1-7 everyone on here would be saying Wilson is worse than Tannehill. But Seattle is not 1-7 but are 7-1. So now everyone is saying its the system and not the QB.

Dusty,

I'm in a pool where I would gave gone 8 for 8 this week and shared $1000 had thy covered but they let me down. 12-1 in my picks in the other pool and won NADA......no justice! Damn Falcons let me down again.

"Brady took the team to the Super Bowl his first year."

LOL Again with this.

I just can believe you don't see this Craig. Why do you keep saying this?

Did the freakin New England Patriots ride Tom Brady to the Super Bowl or was it a full team effort?

I can't use a better example of the exact team I'm looking for. The New England Patriots from that season. PERFECT TEAM.

I have the utmost respect for that team. They even came out of the locker room before the big game with arms and hands locked, refusing to be recognized separately, they wanted to be announced as THE PATRIOTS.

TOM BRADY did not bring them to the super bowl. It was a team effort and every player including Tom would agree. And don't even get me started about the tuck rule.

Craig, how much of an impact did that last INT have in the game? ZERO.

yes, he gave up two turnovers although one was similar hit that also made Brady fumble too in the same game. If the Dolphisn had lost by one score, I can see how you can say that but frankly I think that loss had to do more with officials' calls than any other factor. may make me sound like a sore loser but I honestly believe that game was a fix. The officials called three ghose penalties in critical times that weren't even close that led driectly to 13 points for NE. There is you biggest impact in that game. I don't blame the offense, defense, or whoever for that result. They played hard and the game was undone by the NFL - point blank.

The Baltimore game? he threw for over 300 yards and had zero turnovers. You want to blame him for that one too? Then you could blame Dan Marino for every loss that team suffered too by using that logic.

'Greg' (there's that guy again),

I think I've already answered Ark. Now mind you own f*cking business....

No Craig, I point to the fact that Matt moore turns over the ball more than once a game and is a seasoned vet and is not going to get any better. he also doesn't score enough. That's why i don't want him.

So I'm not changing anything.


Extremely strange that Aponte would be allying herself with a lame duck hc. I'm believing there's more than meets the eye with this new-found Aponte/Philbin relationship.


Posted by: Sam I Am | October 31, 2013 at 01:46 PM

Sam,

I've begun wondering if Ireland is in the process of getting "Sporano-ed"...

Got his extension from the big boss, now possibly turned on by Dawn, who is apparently siding with Philbin....

It's like deja-vu, all over again.

fair enough craig. wasnt bradys first year. and switch thill and wilson and seattle is still damn good and we still suck

Mark,

'Turns the ball over more than once a game'.

That's perfect.....you just described Tannehill to date. Same argument then.

I wouldn't think he would have to Craig.

First, Tannehill has proven he can beat winning teams, Moore did not.

Second Tannehill is in year two of an NFL career and Matt Moore is in year 8 or 9 playing for his 3rd or 4th team.

Do apples and oranges look and taste the same to you? That would explain this entirely! :) j/k

craig not sure what ur point is to this moore-thill argument/ are u saying u think we should be playing moore???

Phins78....have to agree. When the coaching staff and FO is replaced we will stand a chance from year one. We clearly have some talent. But the Pouncey, Martin problems could have a very devastating effect in the years to come. Not only will Tannehill be running the possibility of losing both. But we weren't a good OL to begin with. In fact bordering on terrible. If you want to see Tannehill fail, at least fail as a Dolphin, take those two players out of the mix and see the train wreck. Even with both players we have probably two years or perhaps three to putting together a credible OL. If we do everything right (FAs and draft picks) it still takes time to school them into just what the NFL is figure out how they can succeed.

Damn Mark you are on a tear today. Bravo! You managed to shut me up quite convincingly. I guess my emotions have gotten in the way of clear thinking. I believe as a former player that a team wins and loses as a unit and that includes those that manage the players.

As a player I never tasted defeat, so I am not qualified to place blame, but as a former player I know what works and what doesn't be it high school, college, or the pros. The game is basically the same at any level and when you win everyone loves you, but when you lose everyone is looking for a reason why.

I THINK THE DOLPHINS CAN WIN THIS GAME TODAY..EASIER THAN YOU MIGHT THINK.WHY..LIKE I SAID BEFORE THURSDAY NIGHT GAMES ON NFL NETWORK ARE ALWAYS LET DOWNS...WHO EVER PLAYS GREAT TEAM OR AVERAGE TEAM..THEY PLAY FLAT..AND THE BENGALS ARE OVERRATED..AJ GREEN GREAT WR..BUT NO DOWNFIELD GUY.HAS AVERAGE SPEED..AVERAGE RUNNING GAME..YEAH GIOVANI IS GOOD ON SCREENS..THERE SECONDARY STINKS..YEAH PAC-MAN CAN MAKE A BIG PLAY..SO WHAT..THE FINS WIN 24 17.

That is a possibility, Sam. Everybody knows Ireland is a Major Assshole. However, if he sticks to being the personnel Man that Ross designated him as, pick good Players, not necessarily HOFers, then nobody should care what his personality is. But, if he starts interfering in areas outside his domain, then action is justified against him by other members of the Team or by Ross himself. All this is speculation, of course, but remains a possibility to rule out, or in.

moore in 6th year playing with second team. but nonetheless hes a career backup.

'Turns the ball over more than once a game'.

It also perfectly describes the beginning of Peyton Mannings hall of fame career. And he was the best qb in the country coming out of college, not a second year starter at the position. He still needed time to learn the pro game.

Yeah dusty,

I'm of the belief that if Tannehill keeps playing the way he is (carelessly), and keeps getting pounded and Wallace is the forgotten man out there, then I would make the change. Now guys are saying 'that means you'e given up on Tannehill etc' and I'm saying 'nonsense'.

How is it that Drew Brees and Eli Manning were given time off but when it 's suggested that maybe that's what Tannehill needs it's sacrilege? Nobody's saying Moore is a better player butthe turnovers need to stop. NOW.

Again, you want to question my belief structure and think I'm being wishy washy. But there are a few things I believe when it comes to the NFL and the QB position and winning

1) A team with an elite Qb is always a factor

2) During the regular season, you can win with a game manager Qb if you are dominant in the turnover ratio (which is the most important stat in football) i.e. if you have a ball hawking defense, you can afford to be more patient because you know you are going to get more opportunities than your opponent

3) To be a true super bowl factor though you must have a QB that at some point is able to take a team on his shoulders. I.e. jsut having a qb like Henne or even the infamous jay Fielder do not suffice because they don't have the NFL passing prowress necessary to do it at some point.

This is why Marty Schottenheimer effect. he always had good regular season teams because he always had defenses that will stop you and take the ball away and seldom give it back. he thought this was the ultimate way to win. however, he never had that Qb to take over a game when needed.

Anyways I've spent more time on this than I planned. Work calls fellas.

manning was 13-3 his second year in league.

I lied. I don't know why I'm trying to defend my stance. It's out there, I seriously have to stop! Hahaha have fun guys, have to go. Craig and Kris ,,,F you for having an opinion! ;) Later guys (sorry if I came off bad there Craig, I apologize and don't mean to be a d#$k but you know me when I believe something, I'm just like everyone else!)

If you redid the draft don't you think the Fins would draft Wilson before Tanny if they were both on the board at #8?

Aponte came from the Browns - nuff said. Fins should get Lovee Smith not Gruden

Mando you sound bitter not one of your better pieces my man. Look at Belichick and how he approaches press conferences he provides as little as possible. It's the competitive edge man every little bit helps. Take it ez on Philbin he will right the ship. First he just needs to rid the Phins and the NFL of Mike Sherman

all of the bLAme on the QB be my guest. I'm done arguing my points.
Posted by: Phins78 | October 31, 2013 at 02:24 PM
c'mon 78. u and i kno u'r not done
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lol

Craig I would pull THill for one reason and one reason only, to protect my investment until I surrounded him with a line that can run the scheme that I wanted to when I took over this squad. Continually expecting these big boys to zone block is hilarious to say the least and it will only get THill injured at best or made into a total basket case at worst.

Craig @ 2:35. Start reading and stop being so fukkin pigheaded man ...this si why everyone goes off on you ... look at the whole text, not just a part.... I also said Tannehill is producing above average passing yardage and TDs. Moore has shown over a season he can't do this. he turns the ball over AND doesn't score enough .... and has no more upside. Tannehill may or may not be going througha growing pain and may yet still evolve but in the meantime at the very least, he produces with the possibility of getting better.

Now stop twisting what I say man..

eli was never given time off, now if u want moore to come in so we know for sure we will keep losing im all for it but thill is only in his 2nd season and needs to keep playing and learning. oline is so bad but once we get a real oline maybe thill will be better for it

It's funny how JMart goes to say there's two options he could take... Guess we all know which one he decided on...

Giovanni Bernard is more of a scatback resembling Reggie Bush. Careful with the corners and the screens.

sea u can say that about 95 percent of every draft pick every year, if they went back they would of taken someone else

RB Eddie Lacy named NFC Offensive Rookie of the Month. He has already surpassed what Daniel Thomas has ever done. We coulda had him with either of our 2nd round picks.

bernard is very dangerous and will be a stud once cincy gives him full time duty

At least Tannehill has upside and a future. Cut him and watch 31 other teams pounce on him. Moore is a great backup to have but is no where near a good starter. He's serviceable, but the day Miami puts him in over Tannehill is the day they've given up

Here's the thing about comparing one player to another...as fans we use stats to make the comparison - because nothing else is the same during the season or from year to year/decade to decade. Teams don't use the same system, don't have the same personnel, and during a season - teams don't even play the same schedule. It's not exact, so you look at stats to decide the "worth" of a player. This is my reaction to Mark/Craig/78/etc.

As for the Armando's post and tonight's game...I'm beyond concerned with the organization. The Dolphins for the past 20+ years never cease to amaze me. Even in the most recent run to the postseason when they were 11-5, you didn't really feel that they were going very far! Different players, different coaches, different ownership...but same results! It's mind-boggling how they can be this inept for this long.

Tonight: They have a good chance against the Bengals. Stay focused, and get on track...this season is not over yet...

They should have been building around tannehil in the draft from the beginning. Tannehill's weapons vs Dalton's... He need's first round talent at WR and TE. He also needs new OTs. Ireland failed at getting weapons surrounding Tannehill. Wallace and Keller were risky FA that weren't even given great offers from their original teams. Not good enough. Hartline and Gibson were solid but look at Patterson or Eifert or Ellington or Reed. There were plenty of offensive weapons available in the first two rounds. We went with two injured defensive players instead. Should of built around the 1st rd QB. big mistake imo

mass it wouldnt matter, bo jackson couldnt run behind this oline.

Business as usual at the Browns of the South.

if miami could have only kept winning, this TEAM would NOT be where it is now, the sky would have been the limit, and everything would be O.K., fans wonder what is missing, i say look no further then a replay of rams vs. pats superbowl, the greatest show on turf getting out played by a PHYSICAL patriot team giving it their hole hearted effort, i don't want to single out any players because it's a TEAM, but certain instances our obvious when watching the game on tv, and no single instance of individual lack of effort stands out as does for lamar miller, this guy has enormous potential but... he does not show anything even close to the type of effort that most NFL running backs display, i'm sorry to say that his willingness to just fall down is ridiculous(for an NFL back), the only thing consistant about his game is his penchant to fall to the ground with alarming regularity. did anyone tell him that staying upright is 90% of his job? and for a widereciever turned QB one would think that tannehill has at least some idea how to protect the ball when getting hit. it's sink or swim for these dolphins, and those TWO flaws will directly impact the story of this 2013 dolpohins team. WHERE IS THE EFFORT?

Philbin needs to give Jordan and Taylor starting snaps. We need to atleast see what we got with them. They were playmakers in college. Why aren't they playing now? It's 8 weeks into the season and it's unacceptable.

Beginning to think Tannehill starting last season was an Ireland to save his job decision. With the limited number of colleges starts, win or lose,it may have been more prudent to sit him behind Matt Moore for at least a full season.

Turmoil surrounding the entire Davie complex, and another losing season looming inevitable, we're nearly guaranteed to see heads roll at season's end.

Would absolutely love to find out which coordinator was dressed down by Philbin in front of players. Sherman or Coyle?

Five hours until the massacre begins.

Does Cincy hang a forty burger on the Phins tonight ?

That's the only real question.

Along with the over/under at 12 regarding fans in the stands.

Take the under.

7-9 and Ross fires no one.

MasDolphan The Honeybadger was also name ROOKIE DEFENSIVE PLAYER of MONTH.

95% of this blog was ADAMANTLY against drafting the "honeybadger". Obviously, Jeff Ireland was too.

So let me get this straight. A prank is made by a supporter of a murderer and Martin leaves without a confrontation but Martin is the head case? WTF has happened to this world? When someone is proud and supportive of a murderer and possibly was a part of it but is not considered a head case something is really wrong with our culture.

They should have picked the MLB Kuechly #8 on the panthers. Traded up and picked Tannehill or Wilson.

Kuechly is a star... Tannehill still waiting to see cuz the offense is terrible around him

we need ci ncy to just bury us tonight. and then tampa to beat us also. ross is a lot like jerry jones, national tv and if we lose bad and it shows us as a complete joke he may finally make some changes and fire ireland. we need to finish 3-13 also, no more 7-9, worst record u can basically finish with

The Dolphins play on national t.v. three times this season.

First a blow out to the Saints.

Second a blow out tonight at home against the Bengals.

Third just may be the Bucs first win of the season.

If the Dolphins beat the Bucs it may save Ireland's job.

When are you homers going to learn that if you love the Phis it's time to hate them.

Change is necessary.

Gay logo's included.

3-13
3-13
3-13
3-13
3-13
3-13

we finally agree

dusty bottoms........YEAH BUT IT'S HARD TO ROOT AGAINST THE FINS..BUT YEAH THATS THE ONLY WAY ROSS WILL DO SOMETHING..BECAUSE IF WE WIN SAY 2 IN A ROW..I BET EVERYONE IS SAVED..MAYBE SHERMAN BEING THE ONLY GUY GONE.

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