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Changes coming but none decided

TAMPA -- Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, who is in town to watch his team play against the Buccaneers tonight and is scheduled to talk to the media at 6 p.m., fully expects to make "significant" changes within the organization following the NFL investigation and season, according to a source.

But ...

Ross has made no final decision on the future of coach Joe Philbin or general manager Jeff Ireland, the source said. Furthermore, the source said, if Ross is pressured to dismiss one or the other, barring incriminating details in the NFL report that forces his hand otherwise, Ross is more likely to keep Philbin than Ireland.

Ross, I am told, is fond of and respects the job both Philbin and Ireland have been doing. Philbin is the owner's first signature hire since taking full control of the Dolphins in 2009. Ross also reportedly gave Ireland a one-year contract extension before the start of the 2013 season -- an endorsement of the job he felt the general manager was doing.

The NFL is investigating the Richie Incognito-Jon Martin situation. But in speaking with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, Ross is said to have asked for a review that included everyone in the organization and not just the players involved.

That means Ross wants to know what role if any, his coaching staff (including assistants) had in the issue. He wants to know what role if any his personnel department played in the issue. He wants to know what role if any top football administrators played in the issue.

The results of that review and the results the Dolphins will continue to get on the field are expected to be the factors Ross uses to weigh his employees' future.

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Fk you and your "source". Your "sources" are whatever bullshyt you can make up. Then say its a "source". The only source around here is you, the source of the problem. Game starts in 3 hours and you don't have ONE SINGLE story about it ALL WEEK. You are pathetic and should be relieved of your role at the Herald. If you need proof of how pathetic you have become just see Omar Kelly. As awful as he is he is making you look like a JOKE. And you make him look like a GENIUS.

Fk you and your "source". Your "sources" are whatever bullshyt you can make up. Then say its a "source". The only source around here is you, the source of the problem. Game starts in 3 hours and you don't have ONE SINGLE story about it ALL WEEK. You are pathetic and should be relieved of your role at the Herald. If you need proof of how pathetic you have become just see Omar Kelly. As awful as he is he is making you look like a JOKE. And you make him look like a GENIUS.

Stop destabilising the Dolphins Armando!
Dolphins win tonight, finish with a winning season and make the playoffs. We need to stay strong and maintain solidarity. We need to stick with one GM and one head Coach. The litany of useless coaches and GMs since Shula's days is long in the tooth. Only Jimmy Johnson stands out.

I would be shocked if COGS is on a NFL roster until well after all of this blows over, lawsuit and all. Last thing the NFL needs is to have Cogs on an NFL roster while ONGOING LITIGATION is IN PROGRESS.

Think about it?

Mando, your true colors have never shined brighter, your patent disregard for honesty in fair journalism shines bright in the spotlight of hypocrisy.

You are willing to tear down a whole team in your attempt to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. Damn careers, and damn the true story. Very sad.

This story is the CENTERPIECE amidst the Dolphins organization right now. Armando isn't responsible for that right now, nor can Armando make it go away.

If he doesn't report it, it looks like IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM, If he does report it, it looks like IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM to many in here.

Like it or not, this story has become a CENTERPIECE that GROWS even LARGER should the Dolphins LOSE TONIGHT.

Only thing that will SLOWDOWN this story is:

"JUST WIN, BABY!"

AKA----- AL DAVIS

Nothing will happen at 6PM today from Steve Ross. Probably, something mild will happen at the end of the NFL investigation. As they do not strike us that JMart and his Family need the $$$, probably the most serious consequences to al this will come from that angle.

Good gawd why would Ross extend Ireland 3 games into the season, not like he was suddenly going to be in demand. This 'scandal' didn't tell us anything about the fins we didn't already know about Ross (success in real estate does not translate to the NFL) Ireland (incompetent), Philbin (in over his head), Cogs (jerk) , Martin (soft) and the media (great at blowing up meaningless crap). Really nothing to see here. Hope the Fins play a watchable game tonight, all enjoy


You only need one player to be a great passing team..Oh where have the glory days (losing playoff seasons) gone?

"You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shi-. Name me a great player we have besides Danny. You can't. We were No. 2 in the passing game. No. 2 in the passing game! How did we do it? With our players, you tell me, how did we do it? We have to throw. We couldn't run. And do we have a great running back? No. '' - offensive coordinator Gary Stevens after losing in the 1997 playoffs

Get some popcorn with a lil butter on the side.

We are go for Ireland to leave.

78, respectfully, I doin't think thy (Philbin and Sherman) are mutually exclusive. You can't be 10-6 and FIRE Sherman, especially during the present fiasco.
8-8 or worse? They should BOTH go.

Posted by: IMAWriter | November 11, 2013 at 05:29 PM

Philbin is as it is on thin ice I believe given they're unique history he will allow the Yr. to play out and then let Philbin retire gracefully before making his move.

excuse me I meant letting Sherman retire.

Martin has 2 highly successful parents. He's an excellent student. He was recruited by Harvard. He went to Stanford and was a starter as a red-shirt freshman on a highly rated offensive line. He was an All-American his Junior year.

This year he is one of the lowest ranked tackles in the league. Anyone think his emotional distress is the result of a young man who's been pressured to succeed all his life confronting failure for the first time?

Posted by: Steve | November 11, 2013 at 05:19 PM

I believe this more than any other thing reported or regurgitated since on the subject!

osted by: Phins78 | November 11, 2013 at 04:38 PM

Are you reatrded too? Not the same, well no shyt sherlock. Different words so yeah, its different. The point is to prove the context of their relationship dumbazz

I like the new committe. We get Dan back!! Good job Ross!!

Screw fire Ross dude!

It's well known that Aaron Hernandez actually threatened Wes welker and others on the pats. That's real threats, real death. Real shyte. Nothing happens regarding the team, or it's culture.

Yet the Obama loving media types who brush murders in chitown under the rug , yet claim I can't protect myself with a 20 round magazine hype up this non story about two guys joking and one with a weak mental make up gets his feelings hurt. Fudging sickening.

Fire Ireland please and start anew from the top down.

Ross FULLY supported Philbin. ZERO remarks in support of IRELAND by Ross himself.

Anyone else notice this?

Ross FULLY SUPPORTS PHILBIN. ZERO remarks in support f IRELAND by Ross.

Anyone else noticed this?

Firing any Coach or GM will be admitting liability and opens the organization for future lawsuits...

The only way anyone gets fired is if Martin has physical evidence that someone on the coaching staff was directing the harassment.

Posted by: Scott | November 11, 2013 at 05:39 PM

Not necessarily, the NFL has 1,000 lawyers and taking them on is a tough proposition on it's own regardless of the credentials of the Martin family. I think an obscure rule regarding hazing goes into the book (buried deep and probably never revisited) Goodell comes out in support of Martin. The investigation finds the team liable and forces the team to pay out the remainder of his salary or some sort of severance package while Incognito pays a fine end of story.

ROSS SPEAKING LIVE ON NFL NETWORK ON THE SUBJECT!!!!!

BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Keyshuan Johnson caught it. He mentioned not hearing anything in support of JEFF IRELAND by ROSS.

I think Ireland's finally a goner folks!


While I'd love for there to be some sort of smoking gun that results in Ireland being fired this instant, I do have to acknowledge Ross this response from Ross is both reasonable and the best response he could have given at the moment.
Let the investigation and season continue to play out, but let it be known people will be held accountable.

Although the one part that is a bit presumptuous is speculating that Philbin could be retained over Ireland.
In that scenario you'd be hiring a new GM, so regardless of how Ross feels about Philbin, that should not entirely be his call.
Unless your going to handicap your GM search by only considering candidates that agree to inherit Philbin with no questions asked.
Sadly that scenario is exactly the type of moronic thing that would be par for the course of late...But let's pray if Ireland is replaced they go after the best candidate possible and allow them to make the decision on Philbin, or whomever they want as coach.

1. Philbin safe
2. Ireland not safe
3. Martin to get pay off
4 Incognito gone
5. Dolphins even more undesireable for players to come.

Ok, let beat the Bucs and kiss some serious ass.

Ross FULLY SUPPORTS PHILBIN. ZERO remarks in support f IRELAND by Ross.

Anyone else noticed this?

Posted by: Sam I Am | November 11, 2013 at 06:21 PM

I re-winded it on my U-Verse and watched it again and your right he NEVER alluded to the F.O. at all!

Armando noticed too:


Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero

My take? Steve Ross didn't show any support for Jeff Ireland. Ross seemed uncomfortable about idea of meeting with Richie Incognito.


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Ireland seems like a goner!

I cried with pride when WR Greg Camarillo scored the winning touchdown that resulted in the Dolphins avoiding an 0-16 season. This episode with RG and JM brings an enormous level of hurt and shame to loyal Dolfans. How our once proud franchise is the laughing stock of the NFL.

This would never have happened in Joe Robbie and Wayne Huizenga days.

"Ross has made no final decision on the future of coach Joe Philbin or general manager Jeff Ireland, the source said. Furthermore, the source said, if Ross is pressured to dismiss one or the other, barring incriminating details in the NFL report that forces his hand otherwise, Ross is more likely to keep Philbin than Ireland".
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I agree for two reasons: Ross gave Ireland a one (1) year extension in the offseason. Keywords are 'one year extension' and 'offseason'. Think about that for a minute. If Ross was so convinced Ireland was a great GM, why only one year? Isn't a 1 year contract what you do if you're not convinced a player is worth a longer contract?

I don't know that much about front office contracts so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

If they let Ross speak on tv this evening he will in his pro-se speaklish(to be a billionaire gotta know how to BS)without being too blunt diplomacy being used that Martin will NOT SUCCEED IN HIS SHAKEDOWN OF THE PHINS AND HIS(ROSS)POCKETBOOK.You dont think Rossy Boy knows how to deal with the suits as a billionaire in Real Estate.Check him out tonight and listen carefully because he just cant flat out say what he means.
As a former Pro-Se suit impersonator I can tell you without a doubt that Ross is a very capable player in SUITDOM.

If they let Ross speak on tv this evening he will in his pro-se speaklish(to be a billionaire gotta know how to BS)without being too blunt diplomacy being used that Martin will NOT SUCCEED IN HIS SHAKEDOWN OF THE PHINS AND HIS(ROSS)POCKETBOOK.You dont think Rossy Boy knows how to deal with the suits as a billionaire in Real Estate.Check him out tonight and listen carefully because he just cant flat out say what he means.
As a former Pro-Se suit impersonator I can tell you without a doubt that Ross is a very capable player in SUITDOM.

Mando's sissified ass would LOVE to think that he had something to do with someone getting fired. Like a little girl.

This speaks to leadership. A winning culture is not being cultivated.

Ireland is five years in to his tenure and this is what the Dolphins are now known for.

Gotta start over.

Ha ha, I loved how Ross got dragged off the stage by his PR douche.

He's not going to win any awards for public speaking, that was a terrible.

At the end of the press conference, to stumble off the screen like that as he stared aimlessly at his helper was so weak.

MANDO'S SOURCE IS THE CUSTODIAN

I would like to see Bill Polian brought in to stabilized this ship. Polian brings IMMEDIATE credibility back to the Dolphins too.

Something we've long-starved for ever since Ireland was in TOTAL control. It's been one fiasco after another on Ireland's watch.

DUNGY HC
MARINO OC
TAYLOR DC
MARTIN AHC
2014 DOLPHINS SB
THANKS MR ROSS

Its all a massive PR drive now.

Ross will give Martin the remainder of his money owing. He has to do at least that. He may even pay off an extra year or two, because of the 'trauma', suffered by Martin.

Martin becomes almost untouchable to other teams. Maybe even his old friend Harbaugh won't touch him after this.

RI, gone to the Raiders or the Eagles.

Pita.

I would take Dungy as HC, the rest not so sure.

Marino as OC, wow, you been at the green again ?

Anyone listening to Ross praising Philbin & not utter a word about Ireland knows what's coming.

For Ross press conference to have any REAL credibility, a MAJOR HEAD has to roll. He FULLY SUPPORTED Philbin, so, guess ho's head is left?

IRELAND!

DON SHULA ORGANIZING THE PARTY ( LIKE ALL TIMES )

.But let's pray if Ireland is replaced they go after the best candidate possible and allow them to make the decision on Philbin, or whomever they want as coach.

Posted by: rymflaherty | November 11, 2013 at 06:27 PM

The notoriously cheap Pitt. Steelers always replenish themselves through the draft. They have over the FA period let more Pro Bowl players walk than any other team. Think of the LB's alone! and WR's in the last SB run (Plexico Burress,Santonio who was a SB MVP now Wallace) Yet they always seem to have a more than adequate replacement drafted and groomed to replace the departed. I feel they also seem to put together the right Coaching staffs. The GURU here is CEO Dan Rooney's little Bro Art Jr. but I for one would take a very close look at who they're Scout Dept. head is because he's been there a while and obviously knows what he's doing. JMO!

Pitagoras, just a same Shula wasn't brought in in some fashion when Ross first took over the team. Then maybe all of the fiascos up to this point would have majorly been avoided.

Ross' great mistake was sticking with Ireland far too long.

To say Ireland should be fired over any of this is completely ridiculous and shows how STUPID you peope are.

Where was Jeffy during the press conference?

Deity, ha ha good one but Im not biting with such an obvious hook.

I personally can't get over the feeling of how ridiculous the press is making itself out to be.

Suspensions..........? Firings..........? House cleaning.........?

ROTFLMAO! Whether any of this happens or not, it's borderline idiotic. This case is BASICALLY about Lil Richie using "Bad Language".

Armando, you're being just as idiotic over this as Steve and Trent and the rest of the Monday Night Countdown Crew right now.

This is Professional Football and this big, ridiculous, uproar is about "Bad Language". The nearly retarded press is perpetuating this more than **ANYTHING ELSE**.

It would be absolutely hilarious, if it weren't for the fact that the idiotic media is turning this into a Witch Hunt in which peoples jobs and livelihoods could be seriously affected.

This is about a player using Bad Language and THESE IDIOTS in the press are trying to get Coaches and General Managers FIRED.

The "Kicker", Armando and **NONE** of the other idiots even have the facts.........YET!

Are you Tards Fvcking kidding ME? You idiots are batting around **SPECULATIONS" at this point and ALREADY calling for FIRINGS?
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The Wheels on the Bus go round and round......round and round..........Fvcking Schmucks!!!!

PS: Excuse my language......Fvcking Hypocrites(Dripping sarcasm......)........

I don't know that much about front office contracts so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Posted by: cocoajoe | November 11, 2013 at 06:29 PM

They actually tend to be between 5 to 10 Yrs.

Mike Dee had a 10 Yr. deal as team Pres., Ireland and Co. all came in on 5 Yr. deals. The 1 Yr. deal was a reprieve to see if he could get it done given a solid G.M. is as easy to find as a franchise QB. I for one as I posted @6:41 would start with the staff under Art Rooney Jr. in Pitt.

I like Shula, all my respect on him, he is the best coach off all the time, but he is old.

odin RE-POST for you!


In watching the Incognito interview ( interestingly getting more play and exposure than the Obama Care lie once and for all proving how out of whack we've become as a Nation regarding priorities) I personally believed his story and version of events. Growing up in Miami and attending a racially diverse H.S. like Miami Killian Sr. (in the late 80's immersed in the NWA Straight out of Compton explosion) I can tell you the "N" word was dropped in every other sentence by everybody Black-n-White. I played on the Killian Football team and dropped it around a few friends in the gym were it wasn't a big deal in regards to the context you used it in and the reason leaking the voice mail to hear the context in which it was used is important. There is a difference between using that word ending it in "ER" over ending it with an "A" which can be meant to mean "What up my Bruddah" ect....

That said this post is about "WHO" may get the ax if the Dolphins don't win and in that regard then you look over the AFC and take an honest look at our chances after blowing some leads and losing to Buffalo with a P.S. QB (inexcusable) and I don't see our chances as great in honesty. The West will produce a Div. Champ and Wild Card team in the race between the Chiefs and Broncos with the Chargers maybe pushing the final spot as well.

The South should be won by Indy with no real threats at the Wild Card but then comes the North with a real dog fight down the stretch with Baltimore really only a half game back from Miami currently in the race given their head-to-head win over us and the Bengals are unraveling but think they pull it out at the end with Pitt. playing spoiler and the Jets in the race in the East.

Analyzing we still play Pitt., S.D. and the Jets twice we would need at least 3 out of 4 here, no easy task! Without mentioning our head-to-head with the red hot Panthers. I realistically see a team fighting for 9-7 and don't think that gets it done without mentioning all the inside shifts and blitzes this revamped OL will see from here on out. I also don't think the NFL investigation will be kind to Ireland making him the odd man out but it's the lack of Playoff push with (probably) a new F.O. and the leash they give Philbin which wasn't there hire and were the team really goes from there. One thing is for sure we will now see what our owner no longer a baby to the game will do given his decisions have the ability to sink this ship further, I for one have a greater interest here than with anything being said by the media regarding this over-blown circus!

That's a fact man. How should Ireland be fired over this bully BS? And a win tonight and we are TIED with the Jets for the 2nd wild card spot. Still 8 games to go. So don't sound like a fking retard.

Jeff looks to be gone gone gone.

The locker room and the players in it are Irelands responsibilty.

Hmmmmmmmm.....The Ireland suggestion, if proved accurate that Martin should hit RI is enough to do the old bringing the club into disrepute gig.

Bye Bye Ball Boy. Don't let the door hit your ass onthe way out !!!

Like it or not, this story has become a CENTERPIECE that GROWS even LARGER should the Dolphins LOSE TONIGHT.

Posted by: Sam I Am | November 11, 2013 at 05:53 PM
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You couldn't be more wrong! I'm going to tell you why.

Armando hasn't "JUST" reported the story. He has indicted the entire Dolphin's organization, from Ross and Philbin right on down to Cogs.

Yet........**YET**......NONE of the **FACTS** have been accurately ascertained, let alone correctly reported.

What are Armando and his fellow Tards in the media have done(are doing)is DISGRACEFUL!

Plain and Simple, no if, and's, or buts about it.

Stop making such long comments. Its pathetic.

Just watched segment of Ross speaking. Unless Philbin gets tied directly to Martin, he's still gonna have a job. Ireland? Maybe not so much.

GM Ireland and Coach Philbin not at fault here.

JM made a rookie mistake leaving his team and washing the team's laundry in public.

It's not the first time an educated player will act as stupidly as JM.

odin,

My feelings on the Investigation not going Ireland's way will in fact have to do somewhat with his track record with all remembering his insensitive remarks at Dez. I don't think the shut off Ireland is liked or seen well and the inter-action with Martin's agent while from my prospective harmless enough will be the convo that comes back to bite him, JMO!

Deity, to you may have not been keeping up to speed but we've been getting our asses kicked pal !!!

Why should Ireland not be fired ???

41-46 over his tenure

1 pro bowler in 50 picks, worst in the league among GM's.

The 1 pro bowler he let go to the Rams and stuck with Martin. Need anymore ? I have an endless supply of them my light headed friend.

Anyone else noticed this?

Posted by: Sam I Am | November 11, 2013 at 06:21 PM
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Well, since Keyshawn just informed the world of it on Monday Night Count Down, my guess would be YES!

Posted by: fin4life | November 11, 2013 at 06:47 PM
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Thanx fin....I suspected as much but didn't know.

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