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Dolphins suspend Richie Incognito

The Dolphins this evening have suspended guard Richie Incognito, citing conduct detrimental to the team, in connection to allegations of harassment and bullying teammate Jonathan Martin.

“The Miami Dolphins have suspended Richie Incognito for conduct detrimental to the team. We believe in maintaining a culture of respect for one another and as a result we believe this decision is in the best interest of the organization at this time," the team said in a statement. "As we noted earlier, we reached out to the NFL to conduct an objective and thorough review. We will continue to work with the league on this matter."

Incognito allegedly was involved in behavior that made Martin feel he was in a difficult work place environment. That behavior including verbal abuse, and implied pressure over Martin to bend to Incognito's will, a source close to Martin alleges. The source also said Martin felt threatened by Incognito and said there is evidence of that threat in the form of text messages and voice mails.

The source said that evidence has been turned over to the Dolphins.

A Dolphins source said Sunday night whatever evidence is turned over to them will in turn be turned over to the NFL which is investigating the matter.

However, the fact the team has taken the significant step to suspend Incognito even as the investigation is in its infancy is a sign the team believes Martin and the evidence he's presented to a high degree.

The NFL was made aware of the team's intent to suspend Incognito before the decision was finalized. The suspension is indefinite.

And as Martin has no current plans to return to the team in the near future, according to a source, it means the Dolphins will be without their starting left guard and starting right tackle when they resume practice at 2:45 Monday afternoon.

The Dolphins are expected to work with Nate Garner at left guard and Tyson Clabo at right tackle. Both players manned those positions against the Cincinnati Bengals after Martin went AWOL from the team prior to the game and Incognito suffered a stinger in his neck in the first half and was unable to return to the game.

Incognito has not been available for comment. He is expected to seek representation to fight the allegations.

Sunday was a very active day for the Dolphins as they've been working this issue. Early in the day they released a statement saying, in part, "the notion of bullying is based on speculation and has not been presented to us as a concern from Jonathan or anyone else internally."

Following the release of that statement, Incognito went on twitter to suggest media accounts of his involvement were wrong and that he wanted his name "cleared."

Approximately five hours later, after the Martin camp presented a formal complaint of "hateful" behavior, a source said, the club released a statement saying it had allegations of player misconduct. And within seven hours of that, the club had made and communicated to Incognito the decision to suspend him.

The news of the suspension was delivered to Incognito by coach Joe Philbin.

This episode closed quite a week for the Dolphins offensive line. Center Mike Pouncey was served a subpoena in connection to the Aaron Hernandez murder case on Sunday. Martin went AWOL from the team on Monday. And then the Incognito suspension.

And here we thought the biggest problem with the Miami offensive line was sacks.

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Philbin and Ireland did the right thing, Incognito needed to be suspended. J.Martin should retire. This is what is best for the team. Now we just need to know what did Pounce do. What he knows. Get that out the way. We need to know how much rebuilding is needed.

Might as well start Thomas and Watkins at OG the rest of this season.

9-7 will seem like a good season this year.

Resign Starks and Soliai. Also resign Grimes and Patterson. The Defense just needs continuity, they don't need more talent. Maybe 1 More LB. A guy that can cover TEs and RBs.

The #1 Priority is the O-Line.

Incognito or Martin weren't the Answer. I actually expect the O-line to play better without them. Incognito was done and J.Martin Never was.

The Fins should've resigned Jake Long. But this is better in the Long Run. The whole Line will cost less than 1 player.

Craig M, missing my point. Players are responsible to the brand on the Logo and all the stakeholders that go with it.

GM and coach responsible for the players and their actions on and off the field. They are accountable, not in your eyes of course no ?

... and really, you want to take Philbin down for this? Apparently he made an attempt at fixing this ... he can't manage 12-15 coaches and babysit all 53 players on his active roster and 8-10 practice squad guys too.

I mean we've all been in position where someone fairly or unfairly made coming to work uncomfortable and often painful.

Time for me to exit. When our friend starts posting under multiple names and i doesn't become about the topic at hand but at about taking shots at me, then I'm out. Try sticking to the topic at hand instead of attacking people, you PATHETIC troll.

Sad but OH soredictable!

The bullying was going on in the Dolphins facility, not where a baby sitter goes to work. This was under his watch, in the workplace. Philbin will go for this.


And Marco, no! Craig Mouthy Minion will NEVER side against Ireland & hold him responsible for anything!

Wow, the Fins suck on so many levels.

Craig M, no-one is taking shots at you my friend, its called a discussion. Try to relax and join in the polite friendly debate, no ?


The coaches aren't responsible. They're not the ones who sent the threatening texts or phone calls. It was the players.let me guess,when your kid does something wrong at school always blame the teachers. You're not alone today. Seems a lot of parents do that..it's partly why the kids today are so messed up. But the blame where it should be.....on the players.

Bit premature to be blaming the coaches when we don't even have all the facts yet.

...I'm not comparing this "scandal" to the Saints "scandal" because of the content. I am comparing the 2 because of the denial by both teams at the outset. I am comparing the fan reaction..I am comparing the 2 because all teams haze, all teams had bounty programs(They probably still do to a much lesser extent)..I am comparing the 2 because both are similar.

Go back and read some of the quotes from Saints fans when Bounty Gate first became public. You could paste them here. Add different names and it all sounded the same. The team reactions were the same as well. At first the Saints said they knew nothing about it? Well that was a lie..The Phins..When this came out immedietly distanced themselves instead of getting on top of the story. A mistake in hindsight.

And like Bounty Gate..People started poking around. Information that may have stayed silent didn't because of interested reporters asking questions. We have just hit the iceberg as far as this story goes...The ship is just starting to sink, along the way I think there are going to be some things that come out that may make some who have painted this all on Martin re-think their position.

Bobby, don't agree with firing Philbin but the rest of your post rings true with me. This is a sad, sad day but I think the NFL has really brought it on itself. The NFL is becoming more and more WWF like everyday. And not the good WWF either where true bad arses participated in the game, but the ghey shite that goes on today ...

With the suspension of Cogs, it needed to happen to save face for Miami but also opens the door for the NFLPA to come in to defend Cogs and Martin

Craig is here under different names all the time. He won't leave.

He claims everyone here without a blue link in their name is a YG alias.

Well, same holds true for him. His name isn't a blue link so he is using aliases.

See how easy it is to ASSume like he does?

It's too easy! LMAO!

I guess things hsve to be brought up to date gradually. In this Era of social media, a whole Conspiracy and its members can be brought down with one motion, if that's what's wanted. I'm pretty sure BountyGate was discovered because of a modern whistle-blower. Same with this probable extortion thing going on in Miami now with possible involvement of outside criminal element. There will be few scapegoats and moderate penalties. But at least, at least for a few years, the Sport will be freed of paying Players for harming other Players and of criminal gangs interfering with the Sport in who knows how many ways.


Take a look at two posts above your last oost. Same idiot changing names as pr usual.

And God....I guess you can't read this morning.I'm already blaming Ireland for drafting Martin and letting Long go and not finding an adequate replacement. I guess you're not only rude but can't read either.

DD, bounty gate was kind of different. That involved his right hand man that was a direct report. This is at least a few layers down from Philbin. I mean, this is all kind trivial actually. I mean,a re we making this out to be a Sandusky/Paterno crime against humanity here.

Martin was a victim of the NFL's survival of the fittest here. Should we take natural evolution away from the game too??

I'm out guys. I come here to talk football, not soap operas.

I know this is like Christmas here for this one idiot. Just watch how much he gets off on this stuff and posts today.

godelle to forfeit phinz remaining 8 games if ross doesn't act swiftly wow.

Cocoajoe...As a former player and combat vet I have seen some pretty horrendous behavior in my time. When you play a violent sport you should expect that the culture is not going to be very savory. When you go into combat the same applies. These guys are not completely stupid and know how to fly under the radar. Am I convinced that Philbin knew about this? No I am not. Football players are not much different from soldiers in the field. They look out for each other and weed out the weak. There is a definite pecking order in both professions and if you can't handle the culture then you need to find something else to do. Weak minded or sensitive individuals can not be relied upon to do their job. On the football field it could cost your QB his career and on the battlefield it could cost someone their lives.

..I disagree that Philbin holds no responsibility for this. That the coaches knew nothing. Do you guyr really believe that the coaches had no clue this was going on? And if indeed they didn't IMO it makes it even worse.

Come on..I talk to my managers every freekin day. We meet, and talk about things. I like to know what is going on in my house...Now of course it is a much smaller scale, it isn't with millionaire athletes. In the end it all comes back to me...Anything that an employee does that hurts my brand..It is on me..So I make sure that I know as much as possible about what is going on. You cannot tell me that NOBODY knew this was happening. I am not buying it.

Would anyone be shocked if Philbin loses his job over this? Ireland? They are paid..Philbin especially. to have control over their team. This isn't a case of off the field..It was happening in the facility!!!!!!!

Craig M,

The reports state that Martin approached Philbin in the Spring regarding bullying from RI.

Should a manager have no responsibility to the other staff if there is a bully in the office he is accountable for ?

No Philbin didn't send Martin text messages, at least I hope he didn't ? However he is accountable for the behaviour of his players at the facility.

A classroom is a bit bit different to an NFL locker room no ? The report may well show that Philbin has done nothing to stop abuse in his locker, he has to police these events.

Earlier this week he lied and said there was no bullying or reports of bullying on his team. Rubbish !!! The reports are now coming out that Martin had approached Philbin several times to alert his coach to the abuse. Philbin chose to either ignore or do nothing on receipt of this heart felt appeal from Martin.

Philbin on so many levels is not right to be a head coach, both on and off the field.

Seems kind of funny that some people compare this event to a childhood school event because it seems very similar. Nowhere does it appear that MEN were involved. Incognito for being a bully and Martin for being a soft little bicch.

Mark, you are exactly right on this whole thing. You had Martin pegged right all along, why you could see this and not Ireland who knows.

Its complete BS if this team gets penalized draft picks or anything of the like for this. Its so frustrating. Team has a chance to go to 5-4 and be right in the race after next Monday and this is the story.

Whole line needs to be blown up next year. Only guy to keep is Pouncey. Maybe keep McKinnie if we need to find a stop gap LT for a year. I'm not sure if going with Garner/Clabo is much worse than Cogs/Martin at this point.

Use a couple of high draft picks and some of that cap money to make the O-line right finally. I'm sick it being a weakness year after year.

Marco, If this is true(Philbin Knowing) heads will roll,As they should......

Ive read every tie bit of this case and I don't see "IT" or evidence. Text are easy to get and why has this been able to go on so long? Black players usually stick up for other black players, they won't let 1 (one) white player hassle another black. Theres more to this then we know and why leave the team and get mental health involved,,,,don't make sense.

Craig M. Why are you being rude to me, I have only given you my opinion. Maybe you are right Craig, I can't read. That explains a lot.

DD, if ur right and Philbin knew about this and thought he could do nothing about it then I blame him for not cutting Martin back in the summer. I mean you aren't going to stop the hazing (like you said, bounties still go on too - only difference is this is done at a player's house instead of the locker room), but if you know a player isn't strong enough to cope, you get rid of him. I mean really, an offensive tackle that can't handle himself at least to a level to defend himself? Pff...if further fines do come down than this draft pick will be the worst in the franchise's history.

...Mark in Toronto..I'm just trying to show the similarities between the 2. I'm not saying they were exactly the same. But look at this.. How do we know that there were not more people involved? We don't. would you be surprised to find out Pouncey was Incognitos "Right hand man" in this situation? There are a lot of parallels IMO..Mostly how both started, how both teams swept it under the rug. How both fan bases blamed everyone except the "conspirators" How both fan bases thought, and probably always will thought it was unfair...I'm just saying there are some similarities. Not exactly the same. Which one is worse? Doesn't matter. We shouldn't be dealing with this at all. It should have never happened.

And God....I guess you can't read this morning.I'm already blaming Ireland for drafting Martin and letting Long go and not finding an adequate replacement. I guess you're not only rude but can't read either.

Posted by: Craig M | November 04, 2013 at 10:52 AM

More condescending, holier than thou arrogance from the Blog Doucher.

Every blog ha an as*, he is ours. Day after day he's ridiculed but, he always comes back. Tells you a lot.

Just watched First Take and yes this story has legs. Methinks however that despite all the negative publicity we are getting right now, it may ultimately be a blessing in disguise.

This team needed to hit rock bottom to force his inept owner to execute a complete overhaul starting with the GM position. The NFL will force Ross to do what it takes b/c as someone said there may be way more lying beneath this team's problems. Mercifully I do not forsee neither Ireland nor Philbin finishing the season with the team. The league will also get involved assisting our idiot team owner in finding personnel that can both manage properly and more importantly bring at least a different image of respect and professionalism to a moribund franchise. The Phins despite all of their failures (attendance-wise) comes to mind, are still a very important international brand for its location and fan base (in fact the Phins despite years of futility I think lay atop the list of NFL teams with international recognotion) Giving Goodell's obsession expanding the brand abroad he will personally get involved in this matter. I can easily see the league reaching out to people like Bill Cowher and Dan Marino (a la Elway) to become the new(old) face of this franchise probably in executive positions with the team.

The reports state that Martin approached Philbin in the Spring regarding bullying from RI.

Should a manager have no responsibility to the other staff if there is a bully in the office he is accountable for ?

No Philbin didn't send Martin text messages, at least I hope he didn't ? However he is accountable for the behaviour of his players at the facility.

A classroom is a bit bit different to an NFL locker room no ? The report may well show that Philbin has done nothing to stop abuse in his locker, he has to police these events.

Earlier this week he lied and said there was no bullying or reports of bullying on his team. Rubbish !!! The reports are now coming out that Martin had approached Philbin several times to alert his coach to the abuse. Philbin chose to either ignore or do nothing on receipt of this heart felt appeal from Martin.

Philbin on so many levels is not right to be a head coach, both on and off the field.

Daryl. You are right my friend.

Posted by: Darryl Dunphy | November 04, 2013 at 10:56 AM

DD.. you have your right to your opinion and I am not going to flame you for it. I simply am looking at this from a former player's perspective. The locker room of a professional sport is not full of fun loving, caring individuals. You either man up and deal with the antics or you move on. Publicly calling out your team mates is professional suicide especially in this profession. I have no doubt that Martin was hazed and was treated badly by his coworkers. His soft nature and terrible play deserved attention by his peers, some may feel that this kind of behavior is over the top, but it is a common notion that if you can't hack the daily grind of a locker room than you should have never stepped into one in the first place.

LOL @ 10:31!!!

I really feel all of this is Martin's ploy to get out of his contract bc he doesnt want to play anymore.

NeMo, this line needs to be rebuilt completely and immediately. the amount of talent infusion is so big that I've always said that it should be handled through free agency - we need immediate immpact - not guys who are going to have to learn the ropes.

Now, it's even more obvious that we need grown MEN and not rookies to change the culture of the line. We need signings like Chicago made with jermaine Bushrod. The guy who is probably laughing more than anyone at this is Branden Albert because he knows a big fat cheque is coming his way from the Miami Dolphins... I was watching him play against mario Williams yesterday. Made him a complete non factor...

he is coming to Miami ...bank it.

..Mark @ 11:04..Yes absolutely... That is part of the cycle of incompetence. I mean WTF is going on. Did Philbin think like the drill SGT in Full Metal Jacket...He would tough love Martin into being tougher? I don't know. We had opportunity after opportunity to address this. Time after time..From Long, to the group of other free agents, to the draft...Yet we thought we could "Break" Jon Martin into being someone he isn't...What does that say about the leadership here?

Now this doesn't even matter..Now we have this festering scab that keeps growing. This should have never happened. We don't know the facts. all the facts. I could be way off base. I hope so. An apology from me is a much better end story then what I think is coming.

DD, it may have involved more than Incognito and involved a "gang" mentality within the linemen. But my question is, why is it Martin that crumbled to this? Obvious, he was never meant to be a pro football OT. He had poor play on the field, got tossed around to an almost comical effect, was poor in the weight room, and thus the most basic element of the locker room picked on him. Clabo sucked this year but I imagine he wouldn't stand for this type of behaviour from other people ... Martin though... like I said before, one dog smelled weakness and after being pushed, he didn't stand up for himself and showed fear and that of course is only going to make it worse.

In these Times, why should we allow for the Sport to remain a Jungle if it can be helped, Mark? btw, when are you going back to Cuba(just nosy, learning from reporters)

Philbin turned a blind eye. Once they knew the details of racist abuse would come out in public, they cowardly did a u-turn and tanked RI.

Philbin and Ireland will be shown as neither incompetent, or knew and did nothing. Either option is enough to get rid of them.

Racist abuse should never be tolerated by management, I dont care it its the NFL or the marines. Philbin has to manage the locker room environment.

I agree with Mark. If Philbin knew that Martin was soft then yes he should have been excused. A team is only as strong as it's weakest link and in this case Martin was the weakest link and should have been removed.

I only blame the coach for not handling this earlier, not because he allowed it to continue, if in fact that is what he did.

Like most have said here today, this may be a blessing in disguise. Martin was never going to be anything more than what he is, a mediocre lineman, couple that with his soft demeanor and you are just asking for trouble.

Good, can we just move on now? Richie is gone, Martin will never be able to play in the nfl again. Wonderful, bravo to all involved, bang up job. Tampa Bay Monday night right?

It's pretty funny that they were able to suspend Richie right after an injury and right before they have to make a decision with him in free agency, decision made, moving on.

Next up, Donald Thomas next season. That is why Ireland drafted him right? To replace Incognito. Not surprised that an Ireland draftee can't get on the field yet, seems to be par for the course. And I won't be surprised if we find out Thomas has some mental issue or is broken down from some kind of injuries in college. Seems those are the olinemen Jeff likes the best.

Herman Edwards, just destroyed Philbin and rightly so on ESPN. He didn't name Philbin but puts it on him, and rightly so,

Craig M. The moral soap box is where we make changes and defend human rights my friend. At some point in your life you may need someone with morals to defend you my friend, no.

How both fan bases blamed everyone except the "conspirators"

Where did you read they were conspiring to bully J. Martin?

And where did you read that Martin has accused multiple people of bullying?

LOL @ FACT 11:06.

The story has made 'The Drudge Report', which means it could be very big. It should be if the story about one rookie going broke due to extortion is true. This could lead to federal charges.

wash, when u r extorted by team mates and called big weirdo by team mates and when u'r moron team mates start making fun of u'r parents, those r'nt antics

Phins 78. No not done. Philbin and Ireland are still in the building.

You meant Dallas Thomas no ? Donald Thomas isn't on the roster anymore. Maybe you wish he was my friend ?

maybe from the jets locker room but the phinz?

Have to go but one thing is for sure. Ross just got a HUGE gift handed to him. He can now fire Ireland and Philbin with no repercussions from fans or the NFL. He will look like the hero for cleaning up a mess and not covering it up like the Pats and Saints. He should come out and do a story about how he has been taken advantage of by Parcell's cronies and is now going to hire an experienced VP and allow him to make over the front office with strong personalities and EXPERIENCE.

Huge gift. Will he take advantage of it?

Alright boy's, Going out to Bag some real Mahi-Mahi, If you haven't had fresh Mahi just caught(With in 2hours) you don't know fish....
Hopeing to get in a school of them. Till later....
GO PHINS...........................

Marco, thank you, Dallas Thomas.

menace it's 30 kts out there. seas 10+ feet.

78- 11:24
swing the axe
i've been say'n that since aug.

WashPhinFan, like you I was a player and vet. And you're right, there is a pecking order. But the locker room is not a sealed unit where nothing comes in or out. And I think maybe you're discounting coaches and players talking to one another through unit meetings and one on one conversations.
I just think it doesn't make sense that Philbin didn't know at least something was going on.

Marco...I am not completely surprised by Edward's reaction. I also blame coach for not handling this situation earlier. He should have seen this coming when Martin was complaining about this in training camp. He should have been cut IMO. There is no room in this game for soft individuals, they can't be counted on when the going gets tough or when they are called out for poor play. He was a wasted draft pick and that is the way it is. Now do to coaches indiscretion we have been put out there for all the world to see and that will not bode well with critical public opinion

Heads will roll, players will be jettisoned, fines will be imposed, and so on. All because of one player who decided to take on the tradition and culture of the game itself. Soon there will be no more NFL as we know it, only a shell of it's former glory.

Here is my problem with Philbin. 1. A head coach who has the respect of the team would have been able to pull Martin back to the facility and fixed this. How many guys get into fights with their team mates or have major problems that we never hear about? Philbin should have been able to fix this if he had the respect of the guys. He should have been able to sit Incognito down and tell him to knock it off and ended this right then and there. I'm sensing he doesn't have control of this locker room.
2. He threw Incognito under the bus. How many veterans in that locker room are going to trust him now?? How many guys who have gone through these hazings and pranks, no matter how childish we think they may be, and now see their coach "indefinitely suspend" a team mate. People can say what they want about Incognito, but something tells me most of the guys in that locker room probably liked having him as a team mate and respected his toughness. I may be wrong, but in a football locker room I think the guys respected Incognito a lot more then Martin.
I know I have gotten a lot of people upset with my defending of Ireland and the coaches over the years. I don't take anything back because that's my "opinion". But this situation is just an embarassment for this organization that caps off the rest. Just like the Harbaugh fiasco, just like the Dez Bryant fiasco, just like the Manning fiasco. Instead of talking about football and winning and playoffs, we are talking about things like this. Ross needs to step up and be an owner. I can't imagine him being such a success in business by letting things like this happen. Heads need to roll, and that starts at the top.

You got ! I hope the players can pull together out of this adversity.

Players like Hartline, Clay and Garner on offense and Wake, Starks and Patterson on D to rally the locker room and lead us to the playoffs.

5-4 a strong possibilty.

Mental issue is probably the real issue. Martin it most likely suffering from something more than being a beatch---- was bound to flair up and NFL is not the place for him.

I am okay getting rid of Incoginito. If there is racism, then Pouncey and Joey porter should pound him.

two ways this season goes. Rally or fold.

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