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Keys to the game: Dolphins at Jets

I picked the Dolphins to beat the Jets on Sunday.

I simply believe Ryan Tannehill is better than Geno Smith. And, you'll read on Sunday, I believe Tannehill can carry his team at the end of this season. I'll link to that tomorrow.

Meanwhile, how do the rest of these teams match up?


When the Dolphins pass the football: Well, seems Ryan Tannehill discovered Mike Wallace last week. He threw the ball deep and threw it often to the dynamic deep threat receiver. And while that resulted in only a couple of big plays and a touchdown, it didn’t mean all is well. Tannehill and Wallace are still a work in progress. Tannehill still underthrows his speedy receiver way too often. That needs work. The Dolphins also have to find a way to get more consistency out of Charles Clay as his performances have been uneven as defenses change coverages and have been successful containing him in all but a handful of games. The New York pass defense is susceptible to the big play, as Baltimore showed last week. The addition of Ed Reed at safety hasn’t helped that yet. Antonio Cromartie, the team’s best defensive back, may play against the Dolphins but his is not 100 percent healthy. ADVANTAGE: Even.

When the Dolphins run the football: This might get ugly. The team that managed two yards rushing against Tampa Bay and has failed to post the league average 4.2 yards per rush in five games this season, including last week against the Panthers, is facing the NFL’s top rush defense. That suggests something of a mismatch. And while the Dolphins hope the return of center Mike Pouncey can reinvigorate the run game, it should be pointed out Pouncey played in that fateful game against Tampa Bay three weeks ago. The Jets are getting great play from Muhammad Wilkerson who leads a front seven that is among the best in the NFL. With running back Daniel Thomas out with an ankle injury, rookie Mike Gillislee may get a few carries. ADVANTAGE: New York.

When the Jets run the football: The only way the Jets will move the ball consistently against the Dolphins is by running. The Jets have a solid offensive line that is relatively healthy and they have two solid, albeit not great, runners in Chris Ivory and Bilal Powell. Quarterback Geno Smith also is a run threat when he needs to get out of the pocket, but he’s definitely not a Cam Newton or Steve Young. The Dolphins have been surprisingly poor against the run this year. They are 26th in the NFL against the run. And it’s getting worse as the season progresses. The Dolphins have given up 136 rushing yards or more in each of the past five games. What was a stout run defense in 2011 (No. 3 in the NFL) has found a way to let a big leak out the middle of the line in several games this year. ADVANTAGE: New York..

When the Jets pass the football: They’re a mess passing the football. The conversation about Geno Smith the past few weeks has been whether he’d be benched rather than whether he’s improving or not. Smith is a turnover machine with 18 interceptions and five lost fumbles. He doesn’t read defenses well pre-snap and doesn’t read the field well during the play. His receiver corps is led by, of course, Jeremy Kerley. Moe and Larry were left unsigned in the offseason. Stephen Hill hasn’t caught a TD pass in four games and Santonio Holmes hasn’t been fully healthy for over a year. The Dolphins are coming off an uneven game in the secondary because Nolan Carroll was surprisingly great against Carolina and Brent Grimes had perhaps his worst game of the season. Dimitri Patterson is out Sunday. No surprise. ADVANTAGE: Miami.

Special teams: MetLife Stadium, like the Meadowlands before it, is a difficult place to kick in the winter because strong winds not only blow through the stadium but do so in different directions. Dolphins rookie kicker Caleb Sturgis will soon find this out. Josh Cribbs has taken over from Clyde Gates as the Jets’ kickoff returne man and while he is not the dynamic player he was four years ago, he was an upgrade nonetheless. ADVANTAGE: Even.

Coaching: New York’s Rex Ryan started the season on the hot seat. But he took ownership of the New York defense and has made the decision to stay with a rookie quarterback. His job is not completely safe but he has kept a team with a flawed roster in the postseason conversation. Dolphins coach Joe Philbin has a more talented roster than the Jets and is getting uneven results from that roster but he has kept the team together in the face of an uncomfortable NFL investigation. ADVANTAGE: New York.


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I believe Tannehill can carry this team at the end of the season as well Mando. That guy has stood tall and taken it all like a pro. Yet even with a struggling offensive line and rushing attack he has progressed.

I can't believe Mando wrote that...that's a big jagged pill for some to swallow around here. lol

I believe philbin does a good job preparing the team to be in the game. We need to play more aggressively on both sides of the ball and exceed the desperation of the jets,. We have the tendency to play to the level of the competition too much. I have been calling for bootlegs since game three to give tanny time to look deep continue this. Let's get the screen game going now.

It's a head scratcher for sure. Is Philbin planning on using Thigpen as the back up tailback to Miller? Possibly his blocking is better than Gillislee? Why not get Gillislee the experience and give the guy carries..? If Thigpen could have been a back up RB wouldn't he have been one already? Since I haven't seen Thigpen play much RB I'll just leave it at...HUH?

With equal records, the Dolphins and Jets face off with one glaring advantage in NYs favor: Coach R Ryan and associates has been able to do as much or more- with lesser parts- than Coach J Philbin and company. Game-long inconsistent play from the Dolphins coupled with the Jets ability to play at a higher level in big games could very well mean the overall better team takes the loss on Sunday.

I spent six years in the U.S. Army field artillery and it seems to me that Tannehill has Wallace what we used to call "bracketed".
Out of Tannehill's four deep balls to Wallace in the Carolina game the first two were short the third one was too long and the fourth one was just right.
It's now time to fire for effect just when the Jets pop up on the schedule.

Just Win Baby!

I am sure Joe Philbin is a super nice guy,but pure vanilla personality. No fire,no killer instinct,and his team plays the same way. I do not like the Jets and I do not like Rex Ryan,but we got stomped on prime time TV by the Saints and Ryan and the Jets beat New Orleans! WTF? We have lost so many "winable" games this season and now we are supposed to believe that this same team with the same coaching staff can make the playoffs? Huh?

I am not sure about Joe keeping them togehter but nice of you say that . Dolphins need running back help can't get that until next year so Tannehill is going to have to play well down the stretch or there may be questions if he is the right man for the job.

Posted by: Mr. Titman | November 30, 2013 at 08:06 AM
" I do not like the Jets and I do not like Rex Ryan, but we got stomped on prime time TV by the Saints and Ryan and the Jets beat New Orleans! WTF?"

Since you apparently missed this let me point it out: Cincinnati Bengals 49 New York Jets 09
Miami Dolphins 20 Cincinnati 20
The Bengals stomped the Jets and Miami beat the Bengals.

*That should have read Miami 22 Cincy 20

It's the QB stupid eh?

Will somebody PLEASE tell Joe Philbin that going for a two point conversion in the third quarter is far more likely to lose a game for you than it is to win one?
Missing that one point opens up a myriad of possible permutations later in the game that leave you a point short.

I believe philbin does a good job preparing the team to be in the game.

Posted by: Rubedaddy

HUH? Fins will probably lose this game because it is in NY and we will get outcoached, as usual.

Fins are just what the Jets need to get back in the win column. Bad matchup for us this weekend

You can forget about Tannehill's progression, because Philbin and Sherman won't last more than one more season. So Tannehope will regress at some point while having to learn a new system and ultimately prove to be a disappointment and a waste of time same as Chad Henne. Watch a Wallace highlight video on youtube and see what the guy is capable of, he's hardly a one trick pony as I though he was, the guy is a player. Has he done any of what he did in Pittsburgh with The Dolphins ? No he hasn't, not even close. Notice the ball placement from a real quarterback in Rothlesburger. We never knew what Wes Welker could do when he was here in Miami because The Dolphins didn't have a quarterback that could get him the ball and allow him to create after the catch. Tannehill is much the same. He is inaccurate, and he has left many big plays on the field this year. Even when many of his passes are completed, if he had placed the ball better his receivers would have been able to get yardage after the catch. The Dolphins will always be mediocre with Tannereach at QB. The enemy of great is good, and at best Tannebust will be good. If he were ever going to be great we would have seen it by now, at the very least flashes of it. Don't hold your breath, ain't gonna happen. Phins stay mediocre, irrelevant.

No touchdowns in the 4th quarter of the past seven games speaks volumes about his ineffectiveness.

Through two seasons, he's not moving the team, The Dolphins are not scoring enough points.

jets and fins, 2 horrible football teams.lets hope jets win 3-2. be disaster to get ahead in meaningless standings of jets and play a second place schedule next year

The coaches will say next year that they need so and so if they underachieve in the win loss bracket.
I remember that the WHOLE coaching staff was changed in the same year and when that happened I didnt like the fact that there werent going to be any coaches coming back when at that time the defense was good at stopping the run for instance.Sometimes coaches and their personality dont fit in to a teams culture.The Dolphins are a very young team and IMO if they dont finish with a winning record its on the coaches.

they wont say cause they are all gone

Fins vs Jets = SNOOZEFEST

Tannebust stinks in the clutch (4th quarter). Play Matt Moore or the season is lost.

mike season was lost weeks ago. play the young guys in these meaningless games and see what we have for 2014. thill has solid future ahead of him

The facts/stats on T-hill don't lie...liars lie. Plenty of smear jobs around here on the guy. It puzzles me why jaded fans here they won't accept the fact T-hill has progressed from last year. You peeps complain about the FO, the coaches, the owner, the logo and every other thing but yet you people still come around by choice and complain on a daily basis. No one is twisting your arms to follow this team.

Fact is no one can say for sure if he will continue to progress but the only way to know is to give him a decent Oline and run game. It would be insane to NOT find for sure.

Sexy Rexy can be distracted by a bare foot, a 12 inch black dildo, and a picture of his wife. The 10 Dolphin fans attending tomorrow's game need to supply those three items and they will win.

Right now, I believe overall Tannehill is better than Smith, a rookie, but Smith has a greater up side now and in the future, has room to greatly improve and has shown moments of brilliance. To me, Tannehill is a step up from Chad Henne, just a step. Jets Defensive line will dominate game, you can play single coverage against Tannehill deep, chances are he couldn't hit a wide open receiver anyway. Wait till next years draft, game. Jets win going away.

Overall the Dolphins are a better team than the Jets.....but for some reason the DOLPHINS ALWAYS FIND THE WAY TO LOOSE TO THE JETS....I would like TO BE WRONG!!!

My key to the Dulfin, Jet game, if thats what you call it, is if the Dolphins show up they will lose,,,thats my key, and if by some miracle the Dolphins win, then that shows all football fans that the Jets truly suck swamp water.

"His receiver corps. is led by, of course, Jeremy Kurley. Moe and Larry were left unsigned in the offseason."

Haha! LMFAO! Good one, Armando!

I have to give Tannehill some credit. The kid is tough...you get sacked 44 times in 11 games and still are performing at a pretty decent level...that says something about you. I think with a better O-line and better running the sky is the limit for the kid. He just needs to play a little more football before he really gets it.

Serious? Key to the game, get rid of Philbin. Coaching sucks. We have the players, just no coaching They proved they can not develop players. Better off to lose, so next GM can draft high

Keys to every game: Get a better coaching staff.

And a GM who can provide balancedpersonnel

stupid eh?

Posted by: Ape Tamer | November 30, 2013 at 08:56 AM

Posted by: Manny | November 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM

In the past ten games the Dolphins are 6-4 against the Jets including a sweep in 09.

Stop pretending to be a fan if you don't even follow the organization because it's embarrassing.

Geno Smith has the same record as Thill this season as the starter 5-6.

He also has the worst group of offensive personnel in the NFL next to the Jags. Smith doesn't have the luxury of having his coaches from his college years around him as Thill does.

Having knowledge of a system is a huge advantage for Thill, that should be factored into the comparison between Thills rookie season and Smiths.

Sure the Jets have taken more chances with him in order to make plays. Smith also keeps the drive alive better than Thill does now with his legs, the Jets have a better 3rd down conversion than us.

At the moment Smith is closer to where Thill was as a rookie, if you factor in the clear advantages Thill had over Smith.

I think this will be very close and Thill will have to get some help from his recievers, such as no drops, YAC and get more separation.

Im hoping Gillislee can inject some life into our running attack too. Its very possible the kid has the talent, but is another victim of Philbins reluctance to give rookies playing time.

actually even if the other team had the Three Stooges as their coaching staff, the coaching ADVANTAGE would be: the other team.

Mando loves to pick on Philbin. Philbin must have ignored Mando for an interview or worse maybe he shut the door of the interview room on Mando's fingers!! LOL... I read where Incognito was going to get money but he was still suspended from playing...Why? Martin is not coming back every one in the Dolphin locker room wants Richie back, why not bring Richie back??!!

The Dolphins and owner Stephen Ross do not want liability from the Martin mess for the Miami Dolphins. So he can not throw Ireland under the bus or Incognito. However it looks bad regarding PR having a RG uttering racial slurs and then coming back to the team. Maybe Incognito's punishment is paying the penalty of two games salary, who knows for sure but Ted Walls the NFL and the entire corporate structure surrounding this fiasco. If Ireland looses his job for his part in this mess he will get fired at the end of the year for being what he is a very bad GM and not providing enough talent to win in the NFL.

good pro, cant wait for january to fire his clown ass

marco wouldnt matter if gillesie was jim brown behind this oline

Who really cares? This team is going nowhere

patience marc, 2014 new staff and gm good things to come



Either we win big or lose big.

yeah winning with jets defense and coaching. that d steps up in crunch time. team is still awful cause of the horrible qb play

There's always a new staff, GM, coach, QB, and it never really gets any better...

Losing the Manning and Harbaugh sweepstakes will haunt this team another decade like Tomlin and Brees before that...

marc we never had chance at manning or harbaugh. but losing out on fisher hurt cause we had him but ross wouldnt fire ireland

You're correct. "We" never had a shot at either, however, ROSS, whom had an audience with both men, certainly did. He couldn't close the deal.

no marc manning never had desire to play here, regardless of ross. and harbaugh was all west coast

You're speculating. If there was zero interest with either party they would not have met. Period.


You pick us to win but you give NY the edge almost everywhere: strange math of yours...

What can I say, except I bet the owner is celebrating Hannukah right now...

marc they its called bargaining power on harbaugh. with manning he never wanted to meet but did so out of respect for marino

I'm sick of hearing/reading that Ryan is a great coach and that we'll get outcoached.
Ryan is a very good defensive mind, but he's never had a clue about what to do on offense, no matter who their QB is.
Jets have been the worst team in the NFL the last few weeks. This is a must win game. Period.

Such gossip queens.

Geno Smith > Ryan Tannehill

its a must lose nick. difference between a second place and last place schedule next year. which would be baltimore and tenn or clev and jacksonville

Manning didnt want to play for Ross/Ireland losers.

mike lose the bias man. gino smith second worst starting qb in nfl next to henne

manning didnt want to play for many teams. he choose team with best supporting cast and easy div. plus elway sure didnt hurt

Geno shows great promise. He is improving ever week and has huge upside.

geno is not improving every week, hes going backwards and big time. they have even talked of putting simms in over him

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