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Dolphins vs Jets: PFF and Salguero review

The grades from tape review are in and the Dolphins predictably looked as good on tape and scored highly in the grade category for this week's ProFootballFocus review as they did on the field.

As always, I offer you PFF's assessment and add my commentary and insight.

Enjoy:

Offense:

Lamar Miller handled 65 of 82 snaps, clearly claiming lead-dog duties with Daniel Thomas sidelined. Miller ran into the Jets’ brick wall when running up the middle, recording 16 yards on 8 totes. On his 14 other carries, running either right or left, he totaled 56 yards.

Salguero: The Dolphins were a right-hand running team this game. Miller, for example, collected 54 of his yards 77 yards running to the right side.

Four of Mike Gillislee’s nine snaps came late in the fourth quarter as the Dolphins were killing the clock.

Dion Sims (45 snaps) and Michael Egnew (27 snaps) played the majority of their snaps in the second half as the Dolphins ran the ball with a lead.

Ryan Tannehill was 0-for-4 on passes 20+ yards down the field, as he did not need to go deep to beat the Jets. He was, however, 7-of-8 on passes that went 10-19 yards.

Salguero: Tannehill missed an open Brian Hartline deep down the left sideline. It would have been a TD. This QB's inability to connect deep is no longer a coincidence. It is a fact we've seen time and again over two seasons now.

Tannehill threw an interception when he was blitzed, but overall, went 8-for-11 for 134 yards when the Jets sent pressure. 

Brian Hartline did a lot of his damage against rookie Dee Milliner, catching four of nine targets for 54 yards.

Mike Wallace caught four of five targets for 28 yards when matched up with Antonio Cromartie. His two longest plays, though, came against Dee Milliner (28-yard TD) and Demario Davis (21-yard catch and run).

Salguero: Milliner was benched in the third quarter. This is not the first time he's been benched this season. The No. 9 overall selection for the Jets is not picking the Rex Ryan defense up very well, not tackling well and looking nothing like the player he was at Alabama.

Charles Clay terrorized Demario Davis and Dewan Landry on Sunday, catching six of his seven passes against them for 63 of his 80 yards.

Salguero: You didn't hear much from the Miami offensive line, did you? That's what a good day sounds like. They should be anonymous. When you hear their names, bet that bad things are happening. LT Bryant McKinnie, who had his worst game of the season according to PFF last week, had his second-best day as a Dolphin versus the Jets. Nate Garner and Tyson Clabo also got positive grades. RG John Jerry and C Mike Pouncey got negative overall grades. Pouncey was downgraded mostly because of his run-blocking. But I must say, Pouncey did a masterful job of getting the Dolphins into the right blocking schemes and perhaps PFF doesn't consider that when grading the center.

Defense

After playing his most snaps of the season last week, Dion Jordan was back at 19 snaps out of a possible 55 plays. He played sparingly until the final quarter of the game.

Salguero: The Dolphins are going to have to figure something out that makes better use of Jordan going forward. Obviously, it's up to him to beat out either Olivier Vernon or Cameron Wake for more playing time. But he needs the opportunities to make plays because when granted such opportunities, he usually makes an impact.

Will Davis played the first 13 snaps of his NFL career. First, he spelled Nolan Carroll when Carroll left briefly with an injury. Then, he came in during garbage time.

Carroll was the most picked on cornerback for the Dolphins in a game that didn’t see them tested much. Carroll gave up four catches on six targets for 34 yards.

Dannell Ellerbe had one not so good play in coverage; a missed tackle on the 20-yard screen to Bilal Powell. But, he had one good play in coverage; tracking back on Greg Salas and intercepting a Geno Smith pass.

Salguero: The Dolphins had three sacks against the Jets, but that wasn't the entire story of their pressure on the QBs. Miami also had three QB hits and 12 hurries of Geno Smith and Matt Simms.

Salguero: The Dolphins defense did not have a penalty all game.

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Posted by: Elmo | December 03, 2013 at 06:40 PM

Elmo I am being objective....what about the other 9 teams I listed.

OD. Ireland's picks overall pretty good. Its the coaching that has let us down this year. Ok, RB and LT could have done with more support. If the Brandon Albert trade went down, we would be looking at 2-3 more wins this season. I,e Thill would not have been killed so often.

As regards the Eagles, Bill, In Foles Jr year (I watched 3 of his games late at night) on Mando's Forums I was screaming at anyone who would listen that the Fins needed to draft Foles.
I also pleaded for Golden Tate. The old guys like South Beach would say it was so.
Water under the bridge. I believe Tanny, with a REAL QB coach can improve GREATLY from the fine player he already is.

Posted by: deity | December 03, 2013 at 05:30 PM

I'm sorry, it was a great read but I have to agree with this guy. Hartline, Wallace, Clay, Thigpen, Moore, and Matthews can be open all they want. When you are getting slammed by a defensive linemen as you're releasing the ball it's kind of hard to throw with accuracy. Please re-watch the play if you didn't see it the first time.

That being said, Tannehill does have trouble with the deep ball, we all can see it. I'm hoping he cleans it up by next season but who knows. All I'm saying is, the Hartline "miss" was a terrible time to call out the qb considering the circumstances. I was shocked he actually came close to completing the pass.

I am leaving now....any derogatory post in my name after I leave are from the following troll that uses 100 names here are a few. Don't get sucked in by her.

YG, Daytona, Ape Tamer, Oliver, CadillacDeVille , TGH , FIRE ROSS KILL MARTIN JAIL POUNCEY , Marco, HEAT WORLD CHAMPS, M is for Moron, Zonk , Dagnel , Hypocrites, Confirmed, Poops, deity

lol poops

Sure Bill A,

All these bloggers are the same person, sure. Go now while you have your family brain cell intact. You just confirmed what a pathetic cretin you really are.

YG, Daytona, Ape Tamer, Oliver, CadillacDeVille , TGH , FIRE ROSS KILL MARTIN JAIL POUNCEY , Marco, HEAT WORLD CHAMPS, M is for Moron, Zonk , Dagnel , Hypocrites, Confirmed, Poops, deity

Same TROLL folks just ignore the TROLL and she will go away.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 03, 2013 at 06:40 PM

Dusty using your logic, Ireland did not really start picking players until last year. That supports the argument that Ireland has only being performing GM duties since 2012 and deserves more time.

You cannot sit here say that all of the good picks that came prior to 2012 belong to Parcells and then pin all the bad picks on Ireland. Ireland deserves credit for the good and bad picks in those years.

Orlando, Davis is not popular in Indy, and Odric starting for the any of the top 8 teams? I don't think so.
The Colts TANKED on purpose their 1-15 season. Luck was the reason.
With nearly the same team, minus their best receiver (Harrison) and the nearly same defense, made the playoffs. BTW, they drafted TY Hilton, a player playing 20 miles away from Davie. Imagine, the Fins could have saved 60 million, and had a REAL clutch receiver. With a first time HC with cancer, who missed 9 games.

While I freely admit there have been some good draft choices, nearly everyone in the media…the knowledgeable media say Ireland is a mediocre GM.
Besides, his character flaws far outweigh this of just about any other Exec in the NFL, save Belicheat himself.

I am leaving now....any derogatory post in my name after I leave are from the following troll that uses 100 names here are a few. Don't get sucked in by her.

YG, Daytona, Ape Tamer, Oliver, CadillacDeVille , TGH , FIRE ROSS KILL MARTIN JAIL POUNCEY , Marco, HEAT WORLD CHAMPS, M is for Moron, Zonk , Dagnel , Hypocrites, Confirmed, Poops, deity

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 03, 2013 at 06:44 PM

Is that the real you, or another TROLL Bill ?

Bill I'm serious, you have to stop. You have good posts and I enjoy talking to you when we get the chance to be in here together.

BUT, You're doing exactly what Craig M. used to do. You keep talking to the dumbest f$#@ing people in here as if anyone gives a s#@t what they think about you or anyone else for that matter.

You have to ignore them. Don't respond to their posts, it's simple. And when he uses your name we know it. It's obvious to anyone reading, you don't need to defend yourself. If it bothers you he is impersonating your sign in write to Armando and he will erase every post that is not yours, he's done it for others because he says he doesn't want that in here.

If someone is commenting on your personality, making fun of your post, etc. just move on. There's no need to placate them, it's exactly what they're looking for. When you get into it with them it makes you look just as bad. I know you're trying to stand up for what's right and I respect that. But you need to understand this isn't the place to do that. It will never change, one or two lonely losers will always be looking for internet dates. Why oblige them?

Bill,,,,,,,IGNORRRRRRRRE. Trust me, you will feel much better about contributing to the blog.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 03, 2013 at 06:40 PM

Great example. You just listed all of his names or their names as if they are some kind of celebrity in here. This gets them off. You're saying just ignore but you talk about the guy/guys and even type all of his sign ins out for everyone to read. We know who is who. He writes the same exact posts every day. Nothing ever changes, it's all very obvious.

Ignoring means not even acknowledging they exist.

If Bell is out for the Steelers we may have a chance to get after Ben. During the Panthers game we had trouble putting Newton down, you could argue it lost us the game. We have to wrap Ben up and get him down. Jordan to play more against the Steelers.

IMAWriter,

The track record shows Ireland has built a very good defense (awesome DEs), very good WRs, and a good TE. This team gave away about 4 wins this year. This team is almost built, except for the OL.

The big question going forward is will Tannehill become a franchise QB? If he becomes that then Ireland will be considered a generous. If he does not he will be fired.

Bill Polian rode the coat tales of Peyton Manning. 31 other teams could have tanked it to get Luck and they did not. That team that Polian built was awful and that is why they went 1-15. They were not losing games on purpose in their first 10 games, they were losing games cause they were terrible. His answer at back up QB for Manning was Curtis Painter. Polian was over rated. So was Pioli when he went to KC and no longer had Brady. Your GM is only considered great if he has a stud franchise QB.

orlando u can use my logic all u want or yours. either way ireland is garbage and gone, thankfully

Tannehill is showing all the signs to becoming a franchise QB. The only weakness he has is the deep ball.

disagree big time orlando. ozzie newsome best gm in game

Bill, that's another game. Now you're just being toyed with like a cat with a mouse.

They will fight with you under 5 different names pretending to be different people and I think you know this already.

But here's the fun part, he will make up another name and pretend to talk football with you to keep you engaged. That way you don't get mad and leave then he can keep attacking you under all of his other names.

How do you know they are doing this? Simple. You will see a stupid new name pop up right around the time you're arguing and he will either ask you a football question, OR, he will comment on one of your football posts.

The obvious part is when you read the comment and it makes absolutely no sense. It will talk about half of your original post and will leave out your point. It will leave you wondering why this "new guy" didn't understand a very simple point you made. And there ya have it,,,,guess who?

Bill if this in any way stops you from talking to this leach I have done my job and will be a happy man. I look forward to the day that someone bad mouths you and you scroll right on by without giving the post a second thought. That's when you've won. You will never win a war of words on the internet when you are talking to deranged individuals.

u da man phins 78 go finssssssss

OD, I don't believe Ireland deserves credit for "signing free agents like Brenner, Bess. Give the COACHING STAFF credit for discovering their abilities top the extent they convinced Ireland to sign them.
Jeff is not the coach. He doesn't work out the players to the extent the coaches do.

Besides, it should be the DRAFT we're discussing as regards Ireland. THAT is where I feel he has missed WAY more, especially as regards the STAR category. Let's see how many Dolphins make All Pro, or at least the Pro Bowl, not on reputation but on performance.
I love Vernon, being a UM guy, but figure he gets 2 more sacks. That will still be 7-8 behind the top 4 guys. Is he an impact player. YES! But as good as the guys with Seattle, Detroit, the 49'ers? NO sir.
You would;t take Suh over Vernon? THAT'S what I'm speaking of. We, even with a top 12 pick, NEVER get those guys. Talking HISTORY here, or every Jake Long, We get Pouncey, Ronnie Brows, Odric, Dallas Thomas, Michael Egnews, Vernon Davis/Sean Smith's, Pat Whites, and on and on. some SOLID, but not the super-stars other teams seam to find year after year.
Not to mention the head cases like J Martin. Enough with the previously injured so badly they can't showcase at the combine…if they were even invited.

I lover my team, as I KNOW you do. I also respect where you're coming from. A glass half =full attitude is ALWAYS a great way to carry oneself, and I admire you for that.
However, after SO many years of this crap, I just can't respect mediocritizes like Jeff Ireland sating this once glorious franchise.
The "Patriot Way?"

What a load of crap. They have ZERO history, other than in the old AFL.
It's time the Fins don't allow ONE PLAYER (OK, and a great coach) diminish the Dolphin Franchises legacy any more.

Get an experienced, respected man to run this franchise. A guy who wouldn't allow Sherman to hire his on no talent, inexperienced kid to coach up our FRANCHISE QB!!

Apologies for the angst and excess verbiage.

I have expounded on the fact that I am a racist, bigot, Dolphin hating child molester that believes that America is bad.

Capitalism sucks

Only the rich get richer

While the poor eat maggots left on the trash of the 1%

Anybody that thinks that there is a WE in sports is lost.

Bill A. is a homosexual

Did I mention I love little boys after a shower?


BOYCOTT THE FINS UNTIL IRELAND IS FIRED! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF THE LOSING! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF THE CLASSLESS, INCOMPETENT GM! BOYCOTT AND HELP MAKE THE CHANGE!

78 let it go, you are giving more time to this subject than bill. He does give as good as he gets. You have just written a couple of pages to bill and his trolls, let it go buddy !

Also, apologies for the egregious # of typos! LOL

BUT, You're doing exactly what Craig M. used to do. You keep talking to the dumbest f$#@ing people in here as if anyone gives a s#@t what they think about you or anyone else for that matter.


Posted by: Phins78 | December 03, 2013 at 06:53 PM


Phins78 does this more than anybody, yet he is constantly telling others not to do it.

Im back now to continue my strand of posts on the same topic last one at 6:15.The movie No Country For Old Men dosent apply to the coaching fraternity in the NFL and in fact dosent apply to the the Legislative branch of federal government in the US both houses of congress.
We will coin a new satire of a name from the Netflix series "House Of Cards" we will call them House Of Old Codgers"

Highlander,

Tannehill is showing all the signs to becoming a franchise QB. The only weakness he has is the deep ball.

Posted by: Highlander | December 03, 2013 at 07:04 PM

There seems to be a high on Thill again after the Jets game.

Yes he did play well on those short strikes my friend but he still has ZERO ability to throw the ball further than 17 yards accurately.

Down the stretch and in clutch situations your QB has to throw it long.

There have been so many dink and dunk QB's in the NFL who go to the bench after a couple of years being one dimensional.

Please dont say that Thill has only one weakness, I've been producing stat after stat to say the jury is still out on this guy.

Thill is ranked 24th in the NFL and has ZERO TD's in 8 games in the 4th, not good enough against the top 10 teams period my friend !!!

Before I leave, anyone sane please reply if you have noticed this.

I'm noticing a pattern with Tannehill's bad throws. It seems to me, I could be wrong but it seems as if he has accuracy issues when he has a full line in front of him. When he is behind the line, in the pocket, with 6 guys on the defensive line and our 5 blocking.

That puts 11 guys in front of him and I'm starting to notice this is when he struggles. As if the movement and bodies distract him or cause him to misread the throw. I would look into it if I were the coach. If I found it to be true, (could be, the guys only been playing qb for a few years, he's used to seeing the field as a wr which leaves a lot of open space in front of you and could be why he is so good throwing on the run)I would hire someone to build some kind of wooden or metal sheets with cut outs that look like linemen. Put them on a track that can move them back and forth, left to right, right to left.

Make him throw to his receivers behind these two moving walls as much as possible in the off season. You can't always have all of the dline and oline when you're running routes and practicing throws. Having some kind of thing like this could help as it would be available at the practice field whenever he and the receivers can get together to throw around.

WHY NOT? Is it going to hurt him? No, but it just may get him more comfortable throwing long passes. He will get tons of reps having to be accurate on long throws with his view blocked. How many times do they get to practice going long with Wake, Jordan, Vernon, Solai, Odrick, and Starks rushing them? Yikes!

Look, it's just an idea so F U if you don't like it ;)

But these are the things the old time coaches would do. Time to think outside the box before it's too late.

Thill next year has to be given a RB with quality and power. I do admit that he has had to carry the offense on his young shoulders with little or no threat from our RB's.

Given a top 15 RB at least he could use the play action and slow down that non stop pass rush.

The pass protection for Thill has been terrible too, whilst Lamar Miller is still a project to be honest and I would prefer him as the back-up to a bigger back.

Thomas should be cut and replaced by a rookie from the top half of the draft. Ireland has not come through as a scout of talent too well. We shall see my friend ?

Posted by: Marco. | November 26, 2013 at 06:12 PM

EXPOSED AS A TROLL....DON't BITE FOLKS

I have expounded on the fact that I am a racist, bigot, Dolphin hating child molester that believes that America is bad.

Capitalism sucks

Only the rich get richer

While the poor eat maggots left on the trash of the 1%

Anybody that thinks that there is a WE in sports is lost.

Bill A. is a homosexual

Did I mention I love little boys after a shower?


I'm out, Bill, no fighting amigo! Just ignore them, it isn't worth it because there are plenty of great people to talk to in here. I'll check back later people but if I miss anyone have a great night.

he still has ZERO ability to throw the ball further than 17 yards accurately.


Posted by: Marco | December 03, 2013 at 07:21 PM


Check his stats from Sunday to Wallace. Then come back an admit your were wrong AGAIN.

Otherwise your posts are nothing but camel fartssss


Again apologists appear right on cue. I bring stats and observations to my points always my friend.

Thill does need a big power back of course, but too many people are putting Thill on a pedestal after the Jets game.

Thill missed 3 TD passes in the game because of this continued problem, can't you see this my friend ?

O-line is playing well and defense is starting to live up to expectations. T-hill has to get hot and take the next step. Essential for a playoff push that he is playing at 90 plus QB rating level and making some plays in crunch time

A healthy groin for patterson would also help.

Thill next year has to be given a RB with quality and power. I do admit that he has had to carry the offense on his young shoulders with little or no threat from our RB's.

Given a top 15 RB at least he could use the play action and slow down that non stop pass rush.

The pass protection for Thill has been terrible too, whilst Lamar Miller is still a project to be honest and I would prefer him as the back-up to a bigger back.

Thomas should be cut and replaced by a rookie from the top half of the draft. Ireland has not come through as a scout of talent too well. We shall see my friend ?

Posted by: Marco. | November 26, 2013 at 06:12 PM


YOU ARE A FRAUD MY FRIEND. CANNOT CHANGE WITH THE WEATHER.

Ha ha,

You are joking his stats and TD's came from broken tackles my friend.

When Thill got near the endzone he could do nothing.

He went 0-4 of pass of over 20 yards, its been pointed out by Armando.

You have spent all night thinking to come up with that response my friend... ha ha.

Go back to attacking Bill my friend.

"Troll" is a compliment in reference to the hapless Dolphins. They've been right for 5 years straight.

OD, enjoyed the back and forth, and I sincerely hope your assessment is more correct than mine. Unfortunately, only another year will tell, and if the Fins are still 8-8, the once glorious Joe Robbie stadium will be even more empty. A opity that Ireland would be the reason the former Miami Dolphins become the Los Angeles What-evers.
I pray THAT scenario never comes to pass.

To continue on the Lot of OLD CROWS calling the shots in this country for old men we will nominate the WHITEWASHED SCARECROW OF RICK SCOTT Gov of Florida who bought his way in to power hoping his palefaced buddies would be able to reelect him while trying to cancel as many votes of the other ethnicities who dont turn red when they stay out in the sun too long.Say your goodbyes Scott on your way out.

I stand by my points. It was in the context of reply to another user my friend, ha ha.

I've also said that Thill has the problem of working with terrible coaches and has suffered some drops.

I have the ability to call it as I see it. Players change, they get better, or worse no ?

Your mind is likely to change too my friend. If a player has a bad season do we give up on him, its depends, on so many criteria.

You will have your way my friend I will leave too.

You have attacked me once to often, I will leave in an hour so keep them coming. Do you have any evidence to your arguements, or just attack saying the word troll.

Troll is your best my friend ? Do you take medication for your problems ?

Why does anyone ever respond to Marco? Don't you realize you keep him coming back? Remember what you learned in 3rd grade, ignore the clowns and they will go away.

Ben will throw deep on us no doubt. It would be a nice time to see Thill get his deep game going too.

We have heard many excuses from the coaches regarding this problem, but it never seems to go away.

Sure a RB would help the no stop blitz. The o-line have played much better in recent weeks and Thill had time to go deep against the Panthers and Jets on his last 9 passes plus 20 yards.

Not one has been on the money, which I can't see being fixed with the current coaches he has around him.

In the pro game some player can only go so far in their development with their college coaches

Thill may be ready for another chapter in his coaching.

Well BullyGate is turning up a lot of nothing but standard lockerroom fare. Cognito will be vindicated. He already has...he is still on the team and Martin is gone.

Ireland and Philbin will both be back.

i never said RT was perfect, just that he had to work on his longer throws, its not rocket science.

They probably never intended to sign Cogs after this season, now for sure they won't However that leaves us needing 3/5 ths of an oline.


There won't be much in FA available, so we may be looking at 3 rookie starters next season. That is too much. Next year is not looking good.

Aviso,

thats easy for you, you have ZERO opinion to offer my friend.

I always bring evidence to my arguements. You come here with a new name. Don't be shy tell me your Thill story ?

I have battled with all the apologist for Thill on this blog.

I at least concede, on certain instances, as in the running game.

You however bleet, Troll !

I think what Elmo was saying is true - we all tend to just see our own team and our own flaws. If we look around and analyze our team, coaches, GM with what the rest of the league has done and we are not so bad,

Only 5 teams in the AFC have a better record than us. 9 teams, more than half the conference has a worse record than us.

Wallace has yet to click consistently with Tannehill, who acknowledged a need to improve his accuracy on long passes. The second-year pro is 8 for 37 (22 percent) on attempts covering more than 20 yards; by comparison, Seattle second-year pro Russell Wilson is 19 for 36 (53 percent).

This is from the Herald an hour ago. We really need to sort this out. I gave Thill the benefit of the doubt with the way the line had been blocking and the RB's had not been producing.

However over the last three games the protection has been good and we still have this Thill defect.

Very disturbing indeed my freinds !!!

With that have a good evening gentlemen.

Dolphins lose the next two and the delusional homer types get slapped back to reality.

6-8.

Just scrolling through the post today there were some good discussions.

This weekend's game should tell us a lot one way or the other. Close shouldn't count at all in this one. If we are truly turning the corner into a contender, this a game we should win.

Rather it's Ireland, or the coaches, or the QB, or the o-line, or he defense it doesn't matter. Losing this weekend won't completely eliminate us from the playoffs but it is a good barometer as to where we have came.

The Steelers aren't the team they used to be and their ripe for the taking at this moment but they are still the Steelers and they defend their turf well and most always play sound football fundamentally.

If the Fins win this game they deserve our attention. If they lose...even a close one I think it cements the fact that this team is still broken.

I'm pumped but I'll probably be the most disappointed yet if we lose. Go Fins!

Dolfan Rick,

I agree. This is a winnable game but there is so much parity in the league that you never know. Factors that favor the Steelers include: they are desperate for a win, they are at home, it is supposed to be real cold, and they have Big Ben.

This will be a close game and I hate to say it but in a close big game I favor Big Ben over Tannehill. Big Ben is huge in the clutch. Tannehill has not proven that he can win that type of game (last drive 4th quarter) on the road so far in his young career. So, you are right this will be a very telling game for Tannehill and the dolphins.

Wrong!!! Not the same troll, Billy Boy @ 6:40. YOU were the one telling people to sukkk your dikkk. And, I never did get an answer from Oscar canosa about the shape of Heinz Field. Is it shaped like a man's mouth? Billy Boy would like to visit Heinz Field if it is shaped like a man's mouth.

Orlando,

I think we do have an edge in the fact that in the back of the Steelers mind's they don't think they'll make the playoffs. They've seen better years and they do have a little of their own internal issues going on.

You are right though, Big Ben and his ability to extend plays could be a dagger.

Hypocrites,

You are just as bad as those you attack. You mean you have nothing better to do than pollute the blog with soap opera crapola? Nobody cares. You only keep those you don't like coming back.

I'm not a stern proponent for "any team being ripe for the taking". Any team going into a game with this mindset stands great chance of leaving sorely disappointed.

This game has and always will be about:

1. Consistency Of Flawess Execution
2. Infrequency of Mental Mistakes
3. Not allowing Turnovers

Whichever team that does these 3 things in the least is usually the team ripe for the taking. But this can not be fully determined before gameday, and not one iota sooner.

Pittsburgh was a good team. No more. Two years in a row they are missing the playoffs. They appear to be going backwards on all levels.

We lost enough stupid games for one season under lots of turmoil with the oline. If we can't get back on track and beat them, we can't beat a playoff team. If we can't win a second game in a row against an average team, we have not progressed.

This game has and always will be about:

1. Consistency Of Flawess Execution
2. Infrequency of Mental Mistakes
3. Not allowing Turnovers

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 03, 2013 at 08:36 PM

Um. This can be said about every single game that ever gets played.

Steelers still have pro bowl caliber players on both sides of the ball. If anyone thinks for one second they will laydown ad quit because of being eliminated from playoffs. Then you may not know your Football history very well.

For teams in the playoff hunt, a team like the Steelers would enjoy nothing more than playing spoiler, to dash away hope any upstarts may have.

Have to be very cautious playing a team like the Steelers. It could paramount poking stick into the wounds of an injured bear. Nothing will be easy, the opponent still has to earn it.

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