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Game day: Ryan Tannehill's time

With one notable exception, everyone seems to know the NFL is a quarterback league. (I'll get to the exception in a minute). And so today's game between the New York Jets and Miami Dolphins should favor the Dolphins, because, Miami's quarterback is simply better than New York's.

Jets starter Geno Smith has promise. Has a good arm. Has the desire.

But he's a rookie. He has much to learn. And he's prone to mistakes. Very.

He leads the NFL with 22 turnovers.

The Dolphins?

Ryan Tannehill has shown in improvement this season over his rookie campaign. It's not as much as OC Mike Sherman promised -- remember, he said Tannehill would be the NFL's most improved QB.

But 2013 Tannehill is slightly better than 2012 Tannehill.

And, as I write in my column in today's Miami Herald, at this late stage of the season, Tannehill is poised for a big finish to the year. I cite multiple reasons why I think Tannehill can turn his play up several degrees and actually tow the Dolphins into the playoffs.

I think he can do it. He thinks he can do it.

My problem is the Dolphins aren't necessarily asking that much of him. Indeed the Dolphins, under head coach Joe Philbin, deny the undeniable by saying a hot quarterback cannot carry a team. Philbin goes so far as to deny Aaron Rodgers carried the Packers during the Super Bowl run that he himself witnessed first hand.

My problem with that is if the coach, and by extension the coaching staff, is not asking great things out of Tannehill or other players because they are of the mind that players are just interchangeable parts -- all equally important and none more valuable than any others -- then they are less likely to get great performances from their players.

I hope Tannehill overcomes this thinking.

I think he can.

 

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I didn't think philbin could give worse press conferences than sparano but they are eerily similar in not admitting any of their own coaching mistakes.

Cromartie has a big mouth, a big family. Also, he has nothing but hot air in his head and a broken foot. Time for Wallace to produce against a decent CB.
Apart from Cromartie, the Jets' secondary is a joke. Hartline should have a great game too.
This is the game we finally score in the 30s.

Every other Salguero post is filled with anti-Philbin sentiment. That's fine if it was all about his coaching but it isn't. It's personal and most of it is a stretch. Armando doesn't have the access he wants to have so he gets his digs in at every opportunity and guises it as being all about Philbins coaching. Even less credible when he is still predicting playoffs ... IF Philbin allows Tannehill to lead the way. When it doesn't happen Salguero will, of course, blame it all on Philbin for holding Tannehill back.

Those of you who love to say Tannehill stares down receivers are biased and not paying attention. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.

All you have to do is watch Cutler stare down Marshall, Romo stare down Dez, and you will see even the top QB's sometimes stare down receivers.

Take a little time to do some research before making blind statements.

Last place today for the loser Phins.

Bills win with a Dolphins loss and it's cellar time.

Can a franchise be taken out and shot ?

“No doubt about it,” Dolphins receiver Mike Wallace said this week. “That’s why they get so much money, because they can carry the team. They are the biggest piece on the team.

“Everybody counts but everybody knows the quarterback is the most important guy on the team. It definitely can carry you. That’s what makes you a great quarterback, when you can carry your team.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/01/3789103/armando-salguero-ryan-tannehill.html
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The players recognize it.....

Smart fans recognize it.....

And I'll bet the WHOLE GREEN BAY football team recognizes it....

But some if you will NEVER get it.....

"It's the QB stupid"......

And unless...or until your QB is playing at a high level.....your team will be as poor...or inconsistent as him.....

Health RG3= division champs in rookie year (they were 5-11the previous year....worse than us)....

Injured rg3= 3-8 currently.....and most likely a regression to 5-11...

How many games have e PACK won without Aaron Rodgers this year.....oh yeah....

0

Above average QB play makes everybody better...coaches included.....

Ed Reed intercepts Tannebust today.

Tannereach runs for his life with The Dolphins patchwork offensive line in shambles.

I hope Pouncey plays.

At a svelt 153 pounds he should be okay.

Tannebust has been flirting with pick 6's all year.

Is today the day ?

Sturgis misses two fg's in the December winds.

Gotta run the ball to win in NY this time of year.

Phins can't, they lose.

"It's the QB, stupid?"

You mean that Dilfer and Grossman were the ones who led their teams to the Superbowl?

You mean that Big Ben and Eli are the reason why the Giants and Steelers are stinking?

It's partly the QB, stupid!

I think Coach Philbin was just trying to make the point that it is a team sport and you aren't going to win many games if you don't play well as a team....no matter how good your QB is.

@ 9:06....

Like I said...most SMART fans get it.... I know understand you don't fall in to that category....

Educate yourself....and look up who was QBing the last 20 SB winners.....

I have little or no patience to go back in forth with those who are ignorant.....

Posted by: FIRE ROSS KILL MARTIN JAIL POUNCEY | December 01, 2013 at 09:03 AM

Hey troll got back to New York and root for your stinkin' Jets.

Let me provide proper perspective for you guys. Here's a list of Great and HOF QB's in their 2nd year. Focus on the avg and it seems like T-hill has done great with the limitations of this team. These are some of the best QB's this league has ever seen. Not saying he's any of these guys but he's got a chance to be great. It's undeniable with the right team around him he can be our Franchise QB.

COMP % TD INT RATE YARDS
FAVRE 60.9 19 24 72.2 3303
P MNG 62.1 26 15 90.7 4135
BREES 60.8 17 16 76.9 3284
ELWAY 56.3 18 15 76.8 2598
BRADY 63.9 18 12 86.5 2843
MONTANA 64.5 15 9 87.8 1795
FOUTS 48.5 8 13 61.4 1732
KELLY 59.7 19 11 83.8 2798
YOUNG 53.7 8 13 65.5 2282
MOON 57.6 15 19 68.5 2709
MARINO 64.2 48 17 108.9 5084
E. MNG 52.8 24 17 75.9 3762
AIKMAN 56.6 11 18 66.6 2579
AVG.. 58.6 18.9 15.3 78.6 2992.6

T-HILL 60.1 15 12 82 2784
LUCK 58.5 15 7 84.3 2593
RG3 59.8 14 11 81.8 2832

The Dolphins can only win by loosing the rest of the games, because this is the only way an owner take action.

Kris,

1) Life is not a black and white thing. You are not 100% right, and you know it.

2) Smart people teach the ignorant, they don't ignore them.

3) If you don't want to go back and forth with people, why do you post on an open blog? Look for a blog reserved for geniuses: we won't miss your Sparanoesque lines such as "good QBing wins games" or "only wins count"

true cant stop me, but dont say that cause they will accuse u in here of not being a fan

Let's play some fill in the blank. The facts/stats above make these guys on here look like complete ______ that continually bad mouth T-hill. Choke down the facts boys.

Kris, where has the rest of the Circle-Jerk Club been lately? You know, Mark in Toronto, phins78, fin4life, Dashi, and my personal favorite moron- Craig Moron?

Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs

() denotes who the MVP of that game was, if it says MVP, the Super Bowl winning quarterback won the honor.

http://www.docsports.com/current/super-bowl-winning-quarterbacks.html
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Cause I know stupid trolls will NEVER do the work.....

"My problem with that is if the coach, and by extension the coaching staff, is not asking great things out of Tannehill or other players because they are of the mind that players are just interchangeable parts -- all equally important and none more valuable than any others -- then they are less likely to get great performances from their players."

Not asking enough out of Tannehill? The guy lead our offense in both rushing and passing yards last week. Do you want him to block for himself and catch passes too?

Hopefully the coaches are asking more out of Lamar Miller and this Offensive Line, the real disappointments.


Krissy is the only poster who knows what she's talking about.

so what your saying is kris just last year a qb very similiar to thill won super bowl

Dusty.....

I haven't posted one word about Tanne....this is the first time I have mentioned his name...

I am in favor of great QB play.....

Nothing more....and nothing less.....


It's you guys that think that my every post is an indictment on Tanne....

When I post about TAnne....his name will be in the post....

I wonder if Jmarty can get us a 5th rd pick?

kris never said u did, i said basically u were telling us we can win a super bowl with thill. i agree with u that we can.

BTW...Colts going to bench Richardson. I guess they finally saw the light after his sparkling 2.8 ypc avg. since joining the Colts. Man they got robbed in that trade. Where's Craig M? Tell me again about the 11 tds he scored one year...For RB's it's about YPC like I said to you. Richardson stinks and is a 2X 1st round bust. Good job Irsay.

I think its the idea that its the system not the players which Sherman seems to stubbornly believe.Some of his play calling at important points of the game would lead you to believe he didnt have so much experience.
I think they allowed Bush and Long to go to a higher bidder partly because of Shermans input.They talked about Bush being a luxury well this team had the money for that luxury and they would have a better record this year if they had it but it seems the agendas of the fans and the coaches are much different.
Long could have been retained also and how much better would the offensive line have been.He dosent fit in with Shermans zone blocking system a system that has allowed the most sacks in the NFl.
Sherman it seems is content with this being a long term process of building a team that fits in with HIS SYSTEM and at the same time allows him to keep his job for years.The NFL is a league of attrition sometimes and if you have most of the parts in place its about winning this year NOW not sometime in the future.
If you were a coach you might also want to continue making a coaches salary year after year always proclaiming next year we will be better,but after you retire as a coach we all realize next year never came.

jmartin has zero value. he will simply be cut. very true truth, colts always make dumb trades. that deal is a disaster

Do or die today for the Dolphins. If we can win 4 very winnable games out of the last 5 then we'll likely make the playoffs.

king relax big fella, sherman is long gone

Great QB play is too narrow, how about great offensive play?
What if we had and offensive line that made huge lanes for our RB?
What if our RB broke a 50 yd run without fumbling the ball at the end?
What if our line kept the DE off of our QBon critical 3rd down passes?
What if Wallace fought for and made those tough catches?

We fix some of the above problems and I have no doubt Tannehill will improve.

For you guys that have such heartburn with what I am talking about.....go read Armando's article....

Then you will see where I am coming from....

This is merely an extension of that....

It's a discussion....not an indictment.....

Tanne raises his level of pla...we will win more....he doesn't....we won't.....

As far as I can tell....we don't have a dynamic...or even workhorse like RB in the backfield.....

Grimes does his job...but the defense otherwise is pedestrian....usually only plays to potential one/half of a game.....

And Wallace is a game breaker....but not a scrapper when the ball is in the air....

And we know about the line.....

So that...IMO....makes Tanne the most valuable player on our team....and the one with the most potential....which I do see....

Can he unlock it.....sure would be nice to see a 3 TD performance against the jets....

kris we both know thill wont get near enough time on enough throws for 3 tds. this is a game between 2 bad nfl teams in same div. which tells us it will def be close. ill go jets 16-10. statler quit torturing yourself

Sure is quite on here for a jets game.....

kris its only 905. they will wake up. if it was a big meaningful game it would be packed by now. by playing out the string most wait till gametime.

just got back from bahamas, never knew miami was the team of that country. local tv carries the games and everything. saw dolphins gear all over the place

doubt anyone cares in ny today about game. with that train wreck and people dying this morning sure game seems meaningless in every way

I see what ur saying dusty...but it's the jets....

Every FIN fan hates the jets.....

Even tho skinny Rex has the fans believing that the PATS are their true rival.....

Smart man....

I guess we did the same with the bBills in the 90s

Alright Armando!! It's nice to see you have some faith & positive things to say about Tannahill. Everyone needs to remember this is only his 2nd Season.
Tannehill has the potential!!

Jets OL waaaaayyyyyy better than Miami's. That's the neutralizer right there. Miami can't run the ball well enough to make Tannehill as effective as he could be otherwise. Jets will play-action Miami to death if they don't stop the run.

I didn't hear about that dusty...

Let me go check it out....

ahhh the bills in the 90's man i hated that team. ruined the marino years having to deal with that freight train. now its the pats. whats next decade, jets?? please say no

dustybrain do you ever ever pick the Phins to win? LOL...Man I watch you every week pick against this team and wish the worst things for them. Have you turned in your fan card yet?

miami has been awful vs run, jets have worst qb in nfl. so jets will run run and run some more.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson | December 01, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I think that's the difference maker too! We need our O and D lines to step up in a big way. We can't win this game if we allow the Jets to out gain us on the ground by as wide a margin as in recent weeks.

Kris is the biggest Fahking Fahgut in this blog, other than Armando of course.

Kris Fahking Fahgut.

KFF.

RIP paul walker

Yeah....

Saw that too dusty....that and Kim K.....

Weird news....

Well a loss to the lowly hated Jets should put the cap on a another dreadful season.

While I hope for a regime change of some sort. I have to root for us to kick the crap out of Ryan and the Jets.

What kind of douchebag spells Chris with a K?

KFF.

I must be responsible for about half the hits on this site....

The other night this fool talked about me till like 3 am....while the rest of the world slept.....

Armando.....we need to negotiate some type of deal....

And of course....it was a Friday night....

Tells you all you need to know about his quality of life....

And of course....it was a Friday night.....

Tell you all you need to know about his quality of life....

Here's some balance dustybrain. I'll predict Phins win by more than a TD. Geno is a rookie crumbling under the pressure of NY. That kid is a walking debacle right now and keeping him out there while he's struggling could damage the kid long term...Rex.

Ryan Tannehill = Chad Henne

Craig Moron is in therapy after he was humiliated publicly for wearing a Dolphins hat when The Dolphins lost to the 0-8 Bucs. Word has it he pulled a Jonathan Martin, threw a scene and stormed out of the bar in tears. His mommy has hired an attorney to look into the matter. Several text messages have referred to The Dolphins logo as being gay.

TannePuke will never be able to carry a team.

just dont see it truth. they have only won one game by more than 4 points. jets d should dominate us. 16-10 jets

we have yet to even score 24 points in a game. i wonder if any team has ever done that through a entire season

Ryan Tannehill = Chad Henne

Posted by: Bill84 | December 01, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Bill84 = Dumb Little Beyotch

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