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Ross: 'We're going to look at everything'

Steve Ross came out of the Dolphins locker room after Sunday's 20-7 loss and basically announced no one's job is safe.

"I'm making no comment on that," he stated before adding, "We're going to look at everything."

My question to Ross was whether he knew 100 percent he was definitely going to retain or fire anyone -- including general manager Jeff Ireland and coach Joe Philbin.

"I'm disappointed," he said before that. "What else can I tell you? For everybody, you know? I have a lot to think about.

"I'm going to look at everything. When you're disappointed you don't make decisions based on the fly. You have to give it a lot of thought and go look at everything."

Ross said he was feeling pretty good about his team two weeks ago when they were 8-6 and playing Buffalo and New York next. He expected to be in the playoffs.

"Of course we were. Sure," he said. "To have something like this -- to lose the last two games -- I'm disappointed for everyone."

It's clear Ireland, the team's GM, has been in a tenuous situation this year. There have been times he's been seemingly on the outs. Ross a couple of months ago told him he was safe.

But now after this collapse Ireland's status is again uncertain. Team insiders have believed that Philbin, who helped the Dolphins navigate through the NFL scandal and reach to the precipice of a playoff berth, seemed safe.

Now, that is also in question because the Dolphins failed terribly the final two games of the season against teams that had losing records going into the meeting with Miami. The Buffalo loss last week was bad. This 20-7 loss to Jets was worse.

Ross was apparently ready to excuse the first. But the second?

"The team's played well. We had one bad game," he said.

But today?

"You expect to win."

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Does sherman throw picks? NOPE.


Where Bill A at??

This guy was beating his chest on how the Fins were going to mop the floor with the Bills and Jets and after the spanking they put on us doesnt even have the audacity to show himself here..

Posted by: Truth | December 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM


So MARCO TROLL/DAYTONA we know this is you again because of your hatred for that loser BILL A. you show your true colors by continuously attacking him even when he is not here


Ok Daytona is getting restless....I am leaving now. I will NOT be back here until Jan 1. New Years eve in Times SQ the #1 target in the USA so I will be busy. Midnight I am officially retired!! YEAH

So Marco/Daytona feel free to use my name to post your hate like you usually do.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL DOLFANS!!! BE SAFE. DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE......... 2014 Better be our year!! Peace!

Posted by: BIll Arnsparger | December 29, 2013 at 06:58 PM


Scott,
does Sherman call idiotic play calls based on downs and distance? Not utilize his players or put in schemes to help his deflated line?
Saying a QB whom improved and did better than his draft class whom everyone was all up in arms on, is a bust after year 2 in an offense that is called by Mike Sherman isnt the smartest.

12 out of 16 games without scoring in the 4th quarter. Awesome talent evaluation. Awesome coaching and a brilliant QB that doesn't know how to run a screen in a West coast offense. just brilliant

...Perhaps the worst thing I have done as a fan was learn how to chart personnel groupings. It tells the story of the game 90 percent of the time. It has told the story of this team(offensively) all year.

It is redundant. But what needs changed. The love fest with 11 personnel. It killed us this year. absolutely killed us. We tried to put a te in the backfield in place of a fullback to run a mock 21 personnel. We rarely saw real 12 personel, and never 13 personnel.
If this doesn't make sense the first number is the running backs, the second number is the tight end..YOu do not count the wr's..It is Universal to all teams at all levels.

So we would get stuck in 11 personnel. I am going to do some research, it may take a while. But I would bet that bet 75 percent of our formations were run out of this personnel. The problem was when we couldn't run block, the formations didn't stand up to pass pressure when we had to pass, which became to much because we couldn't run.

The formations worked just enough to keep them options. But in the games we lost. We were dominated in the this personnel grouping. Every time. It isn't rocket science as we used it so much.

So what I would like to see next year is more personnel flexibility. Get a freekin fullback.. Run more heavy Personnel. Less spreading the field, more ability to run power. Perhaps reduce the number of pass attempts by 100..3-4 wide formations are fine. I'm all for them. But 3 wide as your base formation, when you struggle to run it??? It makes you 1 dimensional real quick.


where is M~IT now ? I really couldn't care the dolphins stuck with Sherman and Thill all season long, whata joke.

After the Bills game Thill should have been benched. The Ravens got rid of Cam at mid season then went on to win the Superbowl. We should have made changes. Thats been the problem, we cannot make the changes required unless we have had to through injury.



Posted by: Marco | December 29, 2013 at 05:54 PM


By the way, look bottom line, all those AFC teams that were battling for the last playoff spot stunk - not just us. Baltimore got whalloped the last two games, SD should've lost to KC's backups. and Pitt had no business even being in the playoff discussion.

Not that it should take away from what the teams needs to do to get better but there are a lot of teams in the same boat - San Diego included.

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport hears that Ryan Tannehill lost confidence in OC Mike Sherman.

Fantasy owners and media apparently weren't the only ones frustrated by Sherman this season. He consistently abandoned the running game too early, used Mike Wallace as a decoy far too often and got Tannehill sacked a league-leading 58 times (10 more than any other quarterback). Joe Philbin appears safe for now, but a new offensive coordinator could be in the cards for Miami.

Impending free agent Brent Grimes said he doesn't want to be franchise tagged.
Grimes signed a one-year, $5.5 million "prove it" deal with the Dolphins last March as he came off a torn Achilles' tendon. He proceeded to shine, grading out as Pro Football Focus' No. 2 overall corner while playing on virtually every snap in all 16 games. Grimes will turn 31 in July, but he's one of the top free agents available. The Dolphins won't want to let him walk for nothing.

Brian Hartline has been diagnosed with a torn PCL in his left knee.
It's not as bad as it sounds. Hartline won't need surgery and is fully expected to be ready for 2014 training camp. In fact, we'd be surprised if he wasn't ready even sooner as a PCL tear isn't nearly as severe as ACL tear. Hartline, who signed a $30.7 million contract a year ago, wrapped the season with a 76/1016/4 line. He now has a total of six touchdowns in his last 48 games.

MIT having other teams in "the same boat" does not make me feel better. Ravens won a Super Bowl last year and the Steelers won a Super Bowl a few back. We cant even sniff the playoffs and its embarrassing for this once proud franchise.

Hey DD,

You want to know who knows how to build a running game and a zone block run scheme for a west coast offense?

Mike Shanahan can do it! We should look at him as the OC or HC.

DD, could it be that the GB system is jsut flawed and only works if you have all time Qbs in Rodgers and Favre? I mean, I don't know the answer ro expect you to know - but what's your opinion on that?

how many teams in the history of the NFL have gone 3-0 to start the season and not made the playoffs?

Bane, yeah a torn PCL is not that bad - only about a 8 week injury. hartline will be ok.

Thanks Bane..

..Mark in Toronto..Who cares about those other teams. They have been successful in the past. This team didn't get out of the hotel the last 2 weeks. Could have just stayed in bed and ordered bad room service.

To me it seemed as though our coaching staff reminded me of the Bush/Cheney White House.

Bush was the puppet (Philbin) and Cheney was the Master (Sherman).

Sherman has some strange father like power over both Philbin & Tannehill that has stunted their growth.

If Ross fires only Ireland & Sherman...then I'd say we got the cancer and the patient will survive. Cut too much (Philbin) and the patient dies.

Give Philbin/Tannehill a new life out of the shadows of Ireland/Sherman.

*** (5)what where working with/where we need to go ***
players that need improvement:
ryan tannehill, needs to work on making a quicker decision on weather or not to tuck and go, maybe he just has to look for those oppourtunities more frequently, there were many of missed oppourtunities this year when he could have extended the drive by running for a first down. the other area of need is of course the deepball...i'm kind of thinking wallace has a little bit more to do with that then people are saying, i love wallace but he has dropped his share of good passes, and again he has been somewhat limited with a small injury, tannehill has been getting the ball out in front of him with more regularity, but wallace has not been able to hit that extra gear. a lot of you have been saying that these past two games tannehill has regressed and i say we know he is NOT brady, but his pleathera of quality targets makes him who he is, and without GIBSON and HARTLINE in combination with the ghosts from the buffalo nightmare he was scared into looking for the first open target available.

Just look at who we lost to this year and how we lost. Give some credence to darryldunphys post above about personnel groupings. I also track the personnel groupings and the results of each play. DD is correct we were in 11 personnel most of the time. No REAL TE and no FB bad OL why could we run.

25%

WE KNOW, I hear you man - but considerign the amount of cap space Joe Flacco will consume for the years, Ravens fans have to be concerned whether or not they can truly compete without being able to afford an All Pro cast around the Qb. For as much as he gts paid, he's supposed to be able to shoulder the brunt of the load and he failed bad this year. Worse year than our Qb but ours only cost $3M and Flacco is a a five year vet.

But like you said, their problem, not ours.

Everyone one seems upset, and i can understand why.
Not gonna lie i think the coaches should be fired philbin, sherman and coyle
They got thier talent and still did nothing
About starks and soliai i think we should not resign either
Starks hasnt made plays and honestly if soliai was such a amazing run stuffer as many bloggers claim why are we ranked 22nd in run defense.
Getting rid of both would give us some more cap flexibility for a near rebuild in the future

when you loose to the bucs and thad lewis twice you deserve to be in this position.

my question is how did this team beat NE,Cincy,Pit,and San Diego?

By the way, look bottom line, all those AFC teams that were battling for the last playoff spot stunk - not just us. Baltimore got whalloped the last two games, SD should've lost to KC's backups. and Pitt had no business even being in the playoff discussion.

Not that it should take away from what the teams needs to do to get better but there are a lot of teams in the same boat - San Diego included.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | December 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

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only difference is all those teams have had a super bowl run in the last 5 years. Dolphins Ireland is in the middle of his 10 year oline building scheme

Mark in Toronto. We agree about Flacco I think Tannehill is as good as him now in only yr 2. What they have that we DONT have is a good front office and coaching staff. We are STUCK with Ireland, Philbin and crew. With them we are doomed. Im sorry but they couldn't even buy a clue.

Emperor...I saw Starks giving up yesterday, he's done.
Soliai made some decent tackles at the point of attack and should be given another year.

Our Defensive scheme needs an overhaul, especially on the D-line...where were Wake/Jordan/Vernon yesterday?

Not one sack
Not one batted ball
Not one INT
Not one forced fumble

Some posters are saying that the Dolphins could have gone 10-6 with a few breaks or if the Marin/Cogs scandal had not broken the OL.

Well, the OL was broken before the scandal became a new story.

And, the Dolphins could easily have lost to the Colts, Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, and Patriots to finish at 3-13. They didn't and they did not finish 10-6 either. They had their fifth straight losing season after having massive amounts of cap space and five premium drafts picks entering the 2013 offseason.

The result was not a single rookie made the team better. Or even started - except for one of the worst kickers in the league, Sturgis.

The Dolphins had a bad season because they have a horrid GM, a subpar coach, and a very iffy QB.

Emperor of reason

We play a 4-3 and Solia is not over center enabling teams to cut him off one side. Now if he lined up over center that would change that run stuffing changes.

It has been said on this blog we have players that are best suited for other systems and we are trying to stuff round pegs into square holes.

Schiano done

dd/We Know, that's my problem with Sherman, he's just not creative enough.

NH, I actually would love to see Kyle Shanahan here. He'd work perfectly with Philbin too because he also loves to pass. The difference is, he creates formations/mismatches that ALWAYS leaves a WR open. Look at Pierre Garcon's numbers even this year (on a crap offense). #1 in targets and catches...IN THE NFL. Look at the Houston years, Kyle's offense was tops in the league every year. That guy has a good system. If not him, we need someone with a great system like that in order to help out Tannehill or whatever sub-elite QB we have running the offense.

DC,

You are right. We need to get a Shanahan in here.

..Mark in Toronto.. I think this system puts a lot on the shoulders of the quarterback. When you spread the field like we do, the quarterback better know where to go with the ball, he had better be accurate, and you have to hope you can block everyone. Not so different then any other scheme, but we just have to have these things work in our favor more because we choose to throw it more.

Whether it takes a Farve,or a Rodgers to run this system? I think Tannehill did a pretty decent job considering what was asked of him. Can he run this offense as designed? I think he can, but he needs some sort of run game or else it is going to end bad.

Look at both Rodgers and Farve. Both go sacked a lot. perhaps this is the risk reward. Both had very good run games when they needed it(I know the Rodgers cup year he threw it all over the place, but look how important Starks was late in the season and in the playoffs)We forget that Tannehill has 3 years of experience playing QB..3 years and we put this on him? People can blame Tannehill, or say he isn't the right guy..That is fine. I think it is absurd how this team has gone about using him, and remarkable considering how much of the offense relies on him that Tannehill did what he did.

He certainly isn't polished, he isn't Farve or Rodgers, he is 3rd tier guy right now. I just do not think it is all his fault we find ourselves saying this. The scheme did not do him any favors.

WE KNOW......I haven't said anything wrong on this blog. I have, in fact, been right all along, as I have stated since early in the season that Tannehill is not the QB of the future and thus far he has proven me correct.

Sorry if you can't look past your fandom of this team and see what is real. I am not Marco or anyone else you think I am. I am a lifelong South Florida Resident and sports fan that can be objective. I'm stating the truth and that what blogs are for, dummy.

*** (6) what were working with ***
i sensed it on draft day, that bad feeling after we selected the #3 pick overall...that feeling of shock like "what did they do?"!...so miami misses the playoffs, what did you expect when you get ZERO production from yout TOP pick in the draft, that pick could have easily been a toughguy runningback accounting for drive extending 3rd downs and maybe even a badly needed first down or touchdown to get us into the playoffs, he may have even picked up the blitzer that our runningback missed on the third play of yesterdays game that accounted for a tackle for loss that stalled the drive....if miami had only drafted eddie lacey(whom they passed on 5 times) the offense would have entered this season with more promise, a tougher attitude, and a better 3rd down success rate...it very well may have been US and NOT greenbay entering this years playoffs!

I wouldnt mind bringing in Schiano in for DC.. He has a firey personality to counter the zombie Philbin

NO SHANAHANS PLEASE. NO MORE COACHES THAT FAILED AT LAST FEW JOB.

Mike Shanahan? I have always liked this guy and nobody develops a running game and an oline like this guy.

To klndry and nhfinfan . I have heard that around around the blog that we are suited to a 3-4 not the 4-3 we run. That being said that is on the coaches who are hardheaded and do not play to their players strength. You can say what you want about spolstra but he plays to his players strength( maybe not a good example lol ) still that a big reason why i dislike the coaches they don't play to the players strengths

DC...all great points regarding Kyle Shanahan, not to mention they have a decent running game.

The role reversal would be great for Philbin too...he'd be the older mentor to a younger OC.

Ross better make his move quickly as there are up to 7 teams looking to snatch up the top tier talent on the coaching front

The Mark Domenik looks like a possible upgrade to Ireland.

We NEED a DC like MIKE SINGLETARY. He will beat this lackluster D into shape.

Anyone think Cowher would be a GM?? More relaxing job than walking the sidelines in the heat and yelling at players all day...

..DC I wonder if the KS comes into play for the Phins. We hear reports that his dad wanted RT last year. I wonder if KS was on board as well? It makes a lot of sense. The only issue I have is what you said about loving the pass.. IMO we need a OC that loves the pass, but secretly when he is alone...really loves the run..Even goes as far as putting on 80's jogging shorts when he is alone...the headband too.

DRAFT A REAL QB NOT A CONVERTED WR. FIRE THE HC.MAYBE KEEP TANNEHILL AS THIRD BACKUP HE HAS NO FIRE LOOKS LIKE HES SCARED OR LOST ALL THE TIME.GET TOUGHER DL AND LB'S. OL NEEDS LINEMEN WHO CAN PASS BLOCK AND BLOCK RUNNING PLAYS.IF YOU CAN'T GET MOTIVATED ENOUGH TO BEAT BUFFALO AND NY JETS YOU DON'T YOU DON'T NEED TO COACH OR PLAY IN THE NFL!! I WANT A TEAM WITH TOUGH MINDED PLAYERS NOT A TEAM FULL CHOIR BOYS!

Rumor is that Schiano is going to Penn State...but his GM is now on the street (Domenik)...although I don't know squat about him.

New OC...maybe a new DC? don't know but we better toss our hat in the ring or the cream of the crop will be long gone.

Ross...wake up dude, stop sulking and start leading.

DD...KS has a pretty good run game in WAS...look at Morris's stats, not to shabby.
...and he lets RG3 run the read option to maximize his legs, something Tannehill seems to do quite well when given the chance.

Mike Shanahan? I have always liked this guy and nobody develops a running game and an oline like this guy.

Posted by: klndry | December 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Not to mention, he wanted Tannehill over RG3 so you know he is willing to work with him.
I would like to see him take a HC hiatus and become our OC. Kyle could be the new QB coach.

Sigh, interesting that OL wasn't the problem yesterday, right? Don't think Tannehill got sacked once. Only a few pressures. I think we almost had 100 yards rushing (so as balanced as this team has been this year). Yet, still failed offensively. Because if it's not one thing with this team, it's something else. ALWAYS!

Here's one problem with just firing the OC, DC, QB Coach and/or the OL Coach:

What talented or up and coming coach would want to work for a GM and Head Coach who are lame ducks going into 2014?

Also, given the fact that the Dolphins are a dysfunctional team where good players go to regress, why would any talented OC or DC want to hitch his career to such a subpar organization.

In short, those hoping for a new OC, DC, and OL coach to turn the team around are probably going to be very disappointed in my opinion.

The Dolphins do not appear to be a team on the rise either for 2014. For example:

- The OL needs four new starters plus depth
- They need a bigger WR
- They need another TE
- They need two new RBs
- They need a rookie QB to challenge Tannehill
- They need three new LBs
- They need one new CB
- They need one new safety (maybe two)
- They need a new kicker (undrafted, this time)

In short, the Dolphins need a lot of new players to play at a high level. They also will need to replace the FAs they do not sign.

A new OC, QB Coach, OL Coach, or DC is not going to fix any of these issues. What's more, Ireland has not shown the ability to build a winning team or even a quality unit (outside of DL and punter).

Other players and coaches see what is happening in Miami. They might come to cash a paycheck. They know they will probably not excel in Miami.

The Dolphins need to change the GM and Head Coach. Otherwise, it looks as if the last year of Sparano will be repeated. And there's no Andrew Luck coming to the rescue.

new blog up

@ 11:41, yeah, I can't disagree today...

..NHFIN..I know about Morris. But what scares me. YOu would watch the Redskins. They would be hammering the run. Fast forward to the second half...And Morris would not see the ball..Pass pass pass..

It was almost worse then what Sherman would do because they COULD run it. The pass is like the send button on a tweet. Sometimes it is best not to hit that button.

I am not saying KS is a bad option, in fact he makes a lot of sense. I am suggesting the next OC has to perhaps keep his thumb off that send button some.

ALL THESE COACHES BEING FIRED ON BLACK MONDAY AND WE HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM ROSS. ROSS...STOP THE BLEEDING AND ADMINISTER THE "TOURNIQUET" TO OUR BLEEDING COACHING STAFF...FIRE THOSE WHO YOU NEED TO FIRE!

DC WOULD BE A GOOD START AND GO GET LESLIE FRAZIER!

Why Ross hadn't figured that alternate options regarding his FO and coaching weren't necessary is remarkable. In all aspects of business and the military you have to take in a good number of scenarios so that whatever comes up, that wasn't planned, doesn't become a surprise. Ross seems surprised and uncertain how to proceed. In a more complicated scenario there's always the unknown that is unknown. But here it's elementary. Everything is laid at the feet of Ross and within his sight.

If he doesn't have the answer yet, then for every day that goes by the chances of a wrong answer becomes more and more possible.

Granted, compared to Dan Snyder he looks OK but taking the whole NFL ownership into account, he's shaping out in the bottom 25%. And doesn't seem to have a clue that he's so clueless! Which just goes to prove that in some cases it takes a whole lot of luck to become a billionaire.

I THINK EVERYONE IS BANDWAGON, I REMEMBER IN THE MARINO ERA WHEN THE DOLPHINS WERE 8-0. & HAD THE NERVE TO FINISH THE SEASON 10-6, WHAT IS MISSING IN THE GAME IS PATIENCE, PHILBIN WILL GET THE JOB DONE. TRUST ME. BUT IRELAND HAS GOT TO GO, & I HAVE NO IDEA WHY OLD GOOD OC DO NOT CALL PLAYS WHEN THEY BECOME HEAD COACHES..

& REMEMBER THIS ALSO, THE DEFNSE IS GOOD, BUT WHEN THE OFFENSE GOES 3 & OUT, IT MAKES IT HARDER ON EVERYONE. THE DEFENSE IS NOT SORRY, THEY ARE JUST TIRED.

GO

GO GO

Absolutely embarrassing !
Let's just tell the defense whether they should stand their ground or pin their ears back.
And then the Dolphins will run a play action on a GO count.

When you have a mediocre owner, your
always going to have a mediocre team. Ross will
never do anything to upgrade the dolphins. They
suck now and always will.

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