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Ryan Tannehill shows off trick shot accuracy

Ryan Tannehill has trouble connecting with his receivers on deep passes.

But hitting the broad side of an eight-point buck from 30 yards?

Dropping a basketball into first floor bucket from the second floor of DICK'S Sporting Goods store?

Firing a frisbee into a net while riding a bicycle?

No problem.

Tannehill and the guys from Dude Perfect are going all trick shot artists in the DICK'S Sporting Goods store make you want to shop in the place or online for the available gear.

Will doing so make you a trick shot artist like it does Tannehill? Doubt it. But wouldn't you settle for one 59-yard connection from Tannehill to a streaking Mike Wallace that lands right in the receiver's hands in stride against Pittsburgh?

Obviously, the video is in fun. The deep ball issue is not. And here's the thing:

It's probably not going to get better this year because the Dollphins don't feel they have the time or the possibility (due to circumstances) to practice it.

I'm told the Dolphins throw maybe a handful of deep ball passes throughout the week of practice. So maybe five deep ball opportunities in four and sometimes three practices.

OC Mike Sherman knows the only way to get it right is to practice it, but he says he simply cannot spare the extra time and effort it requires physically.

“I think it’s just a matter of repetition," Sherman said. "One thing you have to understand is you can’t just go out there every day in practice and just throw 25 deep balls.  You just don’t have the legs to do that during the context of our week or day, or a season.  It’s just a matter of having some work together and some familiarity.  Mike’s (Wallace) been nursing some tendonitis, so that hasn’t allowed us an opportunity at times during the course of the week even to work on that."

Understand what Sherman just said. Sherman is admitting some weeks the Dolphins don't "work on that."

Wallace also had the groin problems during training camp and that prevented the work as well. But even when he was healthy during camp, the team would go days and days without throwing him a deep ball. I know because those practices were open to the media and I reported the issue here.

This issues reminds me of the old Brooklyn Dodgers.

Maybe next year.

 

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Armando,

Maybe the Dolphins should place a basket on top of Mike Wallace's head instead of a helmet.


So can we put antlers on Mike Wallace's helmet?

Posted by: CommonSense | December 04, 2013 at 10:35 AM

BEST post of the year!!

who was it they said about Claymond Andrews or not sure that's his name but that he had rocket legs?? tey will have all,the pass with Mike Walace soon already he is play better than before and many big plays!!

The Dolphins are very fortunate to FINALLY have a QB with the "promise" to be a good one for many years. If the Dolphins brass, whoever that may be in 2014, is able to get a decent OL, real TE and a real RB and a true #2 WR...think Anquan Bolden type....then 2014 will be the year that really has a chance to be special. All in all the team is heading in the right direction.

You guys sure making little about nothing. Redzone 2012 55%, 2013 52%? Could it be the OLINE?

The running game was a juggernaut in 2012 compared to this year too. As horrible as the oline has been this year, it's MIRACULOUS the redzone numbers are only down 3 PERCENT.

Quit looking the gift horse in the mouth. There aren't any Trojans in there.


Quit looking the gift horse in the mouth. There aren't any Trojans in there.

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 04, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Good line Sam.....I am sure MIT will have a funny comment about this line.

Posted by: paul g | December 04, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Thank you. Awesome find. I love this kind of stuff. :)

WALLACE - 10 CATCHES 200 + YARDS THIS SUNDAY.....

Bill, a big possession WR I could consider a luxury. Same with a stud TE. The O-line is the biggest issue in my opinion.

I still hope Ireland or whoever is GM goes best player available in round 1. The big possession WR and stud TE (Mike Evans, Eric Ebron) might be gone though. We do have some good depth at WR with Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews. TE Clay has been great, but if you can get a potential stud Graham/Hernandez type you have to take him.

The big RB can probably be picked in the later rounds. Maybe someone like Carlos Hyde from Ohio State. O-line I hope we fix a piece or 2 in free agency and a piece or 2 in the draft. I think Garner or Brenner could potentially start at one of the guard spots. Hopefully Dallas Thomas comes along, but it doesn't look good at this point.

Sam, the point IS, you spent what, 83 MILLION DOLLARS to improve your team, and instead you get regression. We'll see how many more wins we have this year (if any), but if I'm the Owner, I'm not liking what the GM and coaches are doing with my money.

ALSO, since this was a POSITIVE stat for the offense beginning of the year, it's showing they are doing worse in this particular category. Usually, you want your team to IMPROVE during the year. But I guess in your world of excuses negative numbers don't mean anything. I hope you're not in any management position at your job. If you are, you're probably getting fired if you're in the red too long. See, that's the REAL WORLD. Negative numbers equals getting fired. Why is football any different?

What part of "Mike Wallace has been dealing with tendonitis" don't you guys get? That means that they rest his tendons as much as possible during the week. The ones that make his muscles move his legs, that make him run, so he can get under the long passes. Got it?

Chris at 11:35
The point about Big Ben underthrowing Wallace is one I have tried to make several times. Wallace has blazing speed but runs herky-jerky routes that are hard to time up with.

nemo i will but i usualy only watch the d
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NeMo,

Have you heard anything about Dallas Thomas, outside of his permanent spot on the bench this season. Just continuing to hope he can grow and improve once he grows in experience. Any updates on how he's played in practice?

The Dolphins are very fortunate to FINALLY have a QB with the "promise" to be a good one for many years. If the Dolphins brass, whoever that may be in 2014, is able to get a decent OL, real TE and a real RB and a true #2 WR...think Anquan Bolden type....then 2014 will be the year that really has a chance to be special. All in all the team is heading in the right direction.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 04, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Come on Bill, unless "the Dolphins, brass whoever that maybe" is God come down from Heaven. No team can fill that many holes in one season.

Yes, we can bring in "new bodies" for everything you named, but, it doesn't mean it will all work. Still, even when you think you have everything fixed, then injuries strike. So, a team must also have great resolve at times to have a great season.

Championships are not always handed over on a silver platter. Ask the 18-1 Pats team that lost to the "WILDCARD" Giants in the sb that year.

...So it feels obvious that the offensive line has to b the focal point of this next offseason. No matter who the GM is..I don't know how the team addresses the line..Free agency, the draft, a mix of both.

But!!!..Are we in such dire straights if the line keeps playing at the level we have seen the last month? Could the tweeks be minor? Could we be over analyzing an issue that has taken care of itself?

I'm not suggesting the team sit still and do nothing. I am saying that lets see how this group finishes the season before deciding the fate of each player.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 04, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Still way too early to crown Thill. Bolden is also a true number 1 type also, not a 2.

We will know next year if Thill is the real deal. Those deep balls, pocket awareness and decision making concerns are still there for all to see. If they care to that is my friend.


What part of "Mike Wallace has been dealing with tendonitis" don't you guys get? That means that they rest his tendons as much as possible during the week. The ones that make his muscles move his legs, that make him run, so he can get under the long passes. Got it?

Chris at 11:35
The point about Big Ben underthrowing Wallace is one I have tried to make several times. Wallace has blazing speed but runs herky-jerky routes that are hard to time up with.

Posted by: EVERYBODY KNOWS | December 04, 2013 at 01:02 PM

Great points and let me ad, if I may, that Wallace has NEVER and NEVER will fight for the ball. Not many spectacular catches the ball must hit his hands. For this reason a young QB is going to be gun shy. If he were more like Megatron, Johnson or Fitzgerald then Tannehill would trust him more. I mention these WR because Wallace is being paid like them.

WHEN MARTIN QUIT THE O-LINE WAS UPGRADED...

With any luck 3-1 in the last four games will get us in the playoffs. I think that's possible playing how we have recently. I doubt it's good enough to win a playoff game though.

I wouldn't break out the long ball until we get to the playoffs whether it works or not. Save it for when we need it and when the situation warrants it.

If we miss the playoffs then go into 14 with a strong new element that's been practiced for over a season.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | December 04, 2013 at 01:01 PM


I wouldn't exactly call a 3% differential "REGRESSION". Tannehill hasn't regressed, though great room for improvement's still there.

2/3 of the big money signees on offense have been out for the season since before the midway point, Keller before the regular season began.

There wasn't any big money spent on the oline and it has been near shambles this year. Lost Jake Long and couldn't get Jerry into the starting lineup until after the first few games of the year.

So, I see it as a godsend if we're only down 3% on redzone efficiency.

Great points and let me ad, if I may, that Wallace has NEVER and NEVER will fight for the ball.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 04, 2013 at 01:09 PM

BINGO, that's the biggest disappointment in him, if the ball isn't right there, he doesn't come back for it at all. Just look at the INT T-Hill threw Sunday. Wallace stood there and watched Cromartie catch the ball. It was in the air for so long and Wallace just watched it come down.

Thill has not just passed poorly deep to Wallace, but to the other recievers to,

His 38 or so deep balls have missed on Hartline, Matthews and Clay.

Against the Jets with time and the runnibg game working, Thill missed deep with Hartline, Matthews and Clay.

Thankfully the Jets tackling was the worst we have faced from them in years and we get two nice scores from Wallace and Hartline.

True our YAC is pretty bad from our WR, but a lot of that is on Sherman for not creating space for his recievers. When you you no deep threat the space becomes very tight, hence 2nd half D co-ordinators have the abilty to shut us down to the point where in the 4th we cannot score to save our lives.

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 04, 2013 at 01:05 PM

Sam please explain why with 7 draft picks and almost $40million in cap space we cannot get 2 OL, TE, RB and #2 WR? I never said anything about having a Super Bowl handed to us on a silver platter. I said right direction and a CHANCE for a special season. Did you think that the Ravens would win a SB start of last season or the Giants the year before?

DD - depth at OL is bad. Current line is okay, but we are 1-2 injuries from being f--ked

Marco, glad you are going to at least give Tannehill another year. He is doing better in the pocket I think. Only 1 sack the last game and he is running a bit more now. Deep ball is still an issue I am a homer, but I will give you that.

I have not heart much about Dallas Thomas except they are keeping him at tackle for now. I think right tackle. He had a lot of trouble in preseason, but I am hoping he can come along.

The O-line seemed to improve when Martin and Cogs left somehow. Pouncey will be back as the center. Could Brenner or Garner compete to start at guard. Will we sign Jerry to a small contract to compete for a job again or just cut ties? At tackle McKinnie and Clabo are both old and free agents. Will we hope they can be good for one more year or draft/sign their replacements. Thomas will be competing for a job or at least be a solid backup hopefully.

Marco I think we are all on the same page (or close). RT isn’t going anywhere next year. He definitely has to take the next step to earn the big contract after that.

That said comparing him to Henne is absurd. His scrambling and third down conversions last week were encouraging so let’s hope the deep ball accuracy is next (probably not this year).

The Ravens and Giants have QB's that can throw deep in the clutch and coaches that know how to finish games.

darryldunphy, after looking at Walter Campbell, I'm very wary of addressing the oline in the draft. The to 2 college LT's have their warts. Last year's class was rated higher.

Only olineman I see that maybe truly worthy of spending a 1st rd pick on is OG Gabe Jackson. The offensive tackles in this draft may not be an upgrade to what we have. The top 2 have both had their periods of struggle this collegiate season.

Maybe good, but not a great crop of LT's coming out in 2014. May have to re-explore Albert, as he is an unrestricted fa in 2014.

In my unprofessional opinion Ryan needs to release the ball earlier trust Wallace to get separation and for Gods sake put more air under the ball

WE signed/resigned 15 free agents last year before the draft as well as 9 draft picks.....so please don't tell me we cannot put the finishing touches on an offense that we started to rebuild last year. Of the $109million we spent this year on lees than $38million was spent on the offense. This MUST change if we want to be special.

You can bet the ranch they will get a premier left tackle next year. Draft, FA or trade.

If Clabo finishes strong he may comes back cheap, but at least 3 tackles and 1 more guard are being drafted or signed next year.

..Andersen..Depth is an issue for all teams.The Steelers for instance. Their starting 5 this year stunk. Now the only guy le is Mike Adams, and he was benched last week. They are deep into their depth chart as well..
My point is not to ignore the line(should they finish the season strong)..My point is that I doesn't appear that we are going to have a total overhaul.

Say we draft a guy in the first three rounds. I would say that this is plausible. Odds are good. Say we go after a few free agents..They do not necessarily have to be first day guys. We have under these circumstances effecivley added depth, and competition to a line that has an opportunity to be pretty decent.

Sam good crop of FA tackles this year. We can fix the tackle position through FA. Our OL bench will be phenomenal if we keep McKinnie and Clabo.

Nemo,

I agree. The line has played quite well the pass three weeks. If they can keep McKinnie next year that might not be a bad idea. There is no guarantee that a rookie, albeit a 1st rounder is going to be able to protect Thill. Clabo has also taken his game to a higher level too, it may be an idea to keep him if the price is right.

Bearing in mind this is their first year in the Sherman system too, I guess there have been improvements both running and pass protection.

Ok folks due to troll issues I always tell when I am leaving....will not be back until this evening. Any post abusing people in my name are not me!

um fruit cakez
mw is 6 ' 195
he ain't beating anybody ^ 2 get the pig
he ain't b m l fitz or the ilk
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Sam please explain why with 7 draft picks and almost $40million in cap space we cannot get 2 OL, TE, RB and #2 WR? I

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 04, 2013 at 01:15 PM

Let's not forget there are our own fa's decisions need to be made on. So, right now, we have no idea who will all be resigned and what it will cost. Have to be really careful who you choose not to resign, for fear of creating yet another hole.

Then as far as other teams top fa's, they'll have to actually want to come here and if they are TOP FA's it means top dollar. You can only sign maybe one of those.

I guess this why any of us are not team GM's, we're probably far more prone to over or under simplify and screw it up worse than the experienced GM's.

I only hope whatever's done is done correctly. I learned long ago, rarely does the team see it's strengths and weaknesses exactly as "WE" the fans do.

...I hate the idea that you as a team are counting on a rookie, or a group of..To be the autofix on your team. It is a bonus to have your rookies contribute positively. Odds are, there will be learning curve..On this team there is no guarantee the rookies will play much if at all..

If the team feels that the offensive line is the biggest issue. IMO free agency must be the way to begin addressing the issue. Then the draft.

There is no guarantee that the team has a grade on a lineman that will be worthy of our pick. Think about this year..Plenty of lineman available. We choose to take an athletic pass rusher. Who is too say that whoever the GM is feels our best value is a lineman(round 1)? A lot of factors. We can't just assume that because the mocks say so, because we all feel it is the right move. That the evaluation process will tell the same story..

Clee,

Thill is better than Henne so far, I'll give you that.

As we agree on the year 3, thats the make or break year for Thill. He has done enough this year playing to his strengths to justify at least another year of course.

I see his game management skills improving to take us up field, but fall short near or in the redzone. Ok the running game hasn't helped that as I've pointed out before.

However not being able to go deep will always put us in trouble as the better D's out there will flood those short to intermediate passing lanes with bodies.

The one way to combat those limitations is for Thill to run when there is nothing open. Against the Jets you saw the guy has great space and is a real athelete.

Against the Steelers, we will see a QB that can do the things that Thill is struggling with. Ben also has no running game and a erratic line.

This would be a great time for Thill to connect with any of his recievers deep, it doesn't have to be Wallace. So the stage is set for Thill to shine and the entire offense to play their best ball of the season.

call me crazy but even open receivers are hard to hit in stride when a guy is hitting you or jumping up in front of you. the line did better this week but it's still a work in progress.

Nemo,
I agree. The line has played quite well the pass three weeks. If they can keep McKinnie next year that might not be a bad idea. There is no guarantee that a rookie, albeit a 1st rounder is going to be able to protect Thill. Clabo has also taken his game to a higher level too, it may be an idea to keep him if the price is right.
Bearing in mind this is their first year in the Sherman system too, I guess there have been improvements both running and pass protection.

Posted by: Marco | December 04, 2013 at 01:27 PM


You guys say what you will about Marco, but with this post I pretty much fully agree.

However, Since we'll pretty much draft middle of the pack. If OG, Gabe Jackson is available, I would use the 1st rd pick on him.

That, or grab A&M wr Mike Evans if he's still there.

marco,the phinz best game was @ indy,
no flagz
do u think they have 2 in them in the same season?
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lol

Every QB gets a pounding. Brady and Ben have really taken some big hits, just as Thill as this year.

They get rid of the ball better so the sack total is lower, but they still get battered as almost as much as Thill.

The Broncos may be the best O-line in the league and protecting their man.

darryldunphy, since most likely we will be drafting middle of the pack, the only olineman I wuld spend a 1st rd pick on is OG Gabe Jackson.

Looks like a weak draft for tackles. Even the best in this class is a downgrade to the best of last year's class.

YOU KNOW WHEN....the steelers would be behind by a score or two and facing third and long, it always seemed to me that's when big ben would shine turning the game around in an instant by rolling out and throwing the big ben bomb to wallace.
YOU KNOW WHEN....gruden so clearly pointed out during the seatle game why russel wilson is so dangerous, how he held the ball to the very last second during draw plays to marshel lynch, waiting for the blitzing defender to bite on the fake and then rollout to the opposite side for a big run or a big pass..MAYBE Mike Sherman could incorporate this into the playbook to execute better rollouts for tannehill to wallace.

looks like Mando deleted my post because I said that Daniel Thomas su*ckd.

Did not know that was a bad word?

Sam,

Ha ha. I've upped the medication my friend :)

I agree a OG would be a great idea, also a LT is a biggy. McKinnie may have been an influence on these guys, as after his arrival we have had better play overall running and blocking. Ok the 2 yards was a joke, but asides from that I've seen improvements.

2watt, ha ha yes my friend, consistency has been a big issue, but we can take heart from some improvements over the last few weeks.

So, Billy Boy, are you gonna visit Heinz Field soon? I heard it's shaped like a man's mouth.

spell it this way
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2 watt, was in Indy to see that game live. Had really high hopes for the team after that. Its kind of gone hill from there, but hopefully they can turn it around these last 4 games lol.

If Eric Ebron is around in the first round when we pick I would think he could help this team. Seems to be a more athletic tight end and a better prospect than Eifert last year. Still a long way to go until the draft though.

..Sam..I couldn't name you 1 guy off a college roster that is a FBS prospect..I could rattle off a bunch of FCS guys..None will be first rounders, some will make teams though.

I have no idea about the O-Lineman that may be first round picks..

Seems my post got deleted. Hmmm prob just a glitch.

2 watt, was in Indy to see that game live. Had really high hopes for the team after that. Its kind of gone hill from there, but hopefully they can turn it around these last 4 games lol.

If Eric Ebron is around in the first round when we pick I would think he could help this team. Seems to be a more athletic tight end and a better prospect than Eifert last year. Still a long way to go until the draft though.

I see no reason why Tanne can't practice deep throws to other receivers beside Wallace, esp. seeing him miss a wide open Hartline and Moore this past game. He can even practice it with a practice squad player for chrissakes. The promplem is with Tanne, he's the one who needs to practice throwing deep, not Wallance.
Another point, if teams would take out these stupid conditioning drills, and just practice more (which also conditions athletes!!) then they would play better. I'd rather have a player practice football than do pushups, burpees, shuttle runs, etc. as skill at those do not transfer to football.

I agree with DD, counting onn rookies to fix your o line is a major problem for many reasons.

1. Recent o line first round picks haven't translated as well to the pros right off - Coughlin for one thinks it's because of the spread offenses in college.

2. We need so much help on the o line that one guy is not going to do it.

3. This coaching staff more often is more content to have rookies sit even if they flash better than the vets ahead of them.

Free agency and trades is the way to go here...

Draft the best offensive weapon available with your first pick...


Sam good crop of FA tackles this year. We can fix the tackle position through FA. Our OL bench will be phenomenal if we keep McKinnie and Clabo.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 04, 2013 at 01:27 PM

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 04, 2013 at 01:40 PM

But wait Sam, Bill A said it first. Do you Still have it our for old Bill?

Posted by: budtki | December 04, 2013 at 01:44 PM
Wilson uses his speed well.

The Seahawks get him out of the pocket and he can buy so much time with his feet. I also likes how he employs the pump fake too.

Cowhers comments regarding Thill being a bit robotic, may have been used with this in mind. Thill is very focussed on his 1st and 2nd reads it seems. He has to be locked on because the ball is gone in under 2 seconds.

Once Thill hits his rythme on those short to intermediate throws he really gets into a zone where his level of play is very high. However when he goes deep the timing is off, its almost as if he has too much time to think about things.

I don't doubt he can throw it as far as Big Ben or Flacco, so it will happen or it won't and his strengths will have to be enough to win games.

someone said(i think it was hartline) in your article concerning the weather for the upcoming steelers matchup that "the cold is just a state of mind"...THAT STATEMENT IS WRONG! if it is COLD and miami takes the field in a sluggish, lethargic, and stiff(as in frozen) manner, while pittsburgh is running around as if it were 70 and sunny, our playoff hopes will be left on the field....the blood has to be FLOWING come game time, it is NOT by any means "a state of mind", i don't care what they have to do in order to achieve this, maybe a lap around hines field prior to kickoff, whatever it takes, if we want to be competitive, if we want to win, that heart rate has to be up when we hit the field!

Mark are you and Billy boy one in the same? you guys parrot each other.

Another near pointless drill is catching balls from a machine. You have a player standing still (like that ever happens in a real game), with no defenders nearby (again, does that ever happen in a real game), catching a ball from a freakin machine (not his QB), and not being hit or tackled before, during, or after the catch.
Then coaches scratch their heads and wonder why so many reciever drop so many passes.

DONT EVER FORGET BILL A GUYS.

A BILL IS NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS, ITS A GIFT TO YOU ALL THAT GOES ON ALL YEAR ROUND !!!

BILL IS IT TRUE YOU ARE A MALL COP ?

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