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The Dolphins world according to Joe Philbin

Joe Philbin had his season-ending press conference on Monday. It had its interesting moments. It had its head-scratching moments.

Philbin's evaluation of the 2013 season and his evaluation of the team are underway but his message on each seemed unpolished. The coach, you see, believes the season was nothing grand ...

"It was average. We were 8-8. It was an average season," he said. "There's areas we need to improve starting with me. 8-8 is not where this franchise wants to be, needs to be or should be.

"We need to make changes, adjustments, tweaks, additions, deletions."

And yet, in the next breath, Philbin said the Dolphins are close to reaching their goals of winning a championship.

"We're not that far away," he said. "We're close."

Philbin's logic is that the team was 8-6 and a victory away from the postseason tournament. No, they didn't win either game at season's end, but he still believes that constitutes being close to some degree.

Look, the Dolphins are not close. They have the potential to be a good team but it is clear this coaching staff could not get the players to perform up to that potential. That's a problem.

And I don't see how a team that needs a virtually complete offensive line rebuild (outside of Mike Pouncey), a running back, and addressing of linebacker problems, can be considered close. I don't see how a team whose offensive coordinator failed to significantly improve his unit and whose offensive line coach failed to keep his unit from being a disaster can be close.

As far as Philbin is concerned, however, he seems to think his staff is strong.

"I have a lot of faith and confidence in myself and the staff and our players that we can make the corrections necessary to lead this team to play up to its potential and lead this team to a championship," Philbin said. "That's what I said the day I got here. I stand by what I said the day I got here and I'm confident I can do that."

Philbin knows he has to make a decision on Mike Sherman and Jim Turner. If he doesn't know, he's ignorant to the facts of 2013. But he refused to give an inch on the idea any of his coaches might have to go.

"I'm going to talk to every single player and every single coach and we'll decide and determine 2014 at a later point in time," he said. "I have a lot of confidence in our staff, our offensive staff, Mike Sherman. He's an excellent football coach. That's what I think."

I asked Philbin if, given his close relationship with Sherman, he is capable of either firing Sherman or convincing him to fade away via resignation.

"I'm beginning the evaluation of the 2013 season and we haven't made any decisions on who's coming back and who isn't," Philbin said, dodging the question. "We'll have all those discussions at the appropriate time."

No, I said. The question is whether you are capable of firing Sherman if it comes to that?

"That's my answer," Philbin said.

Philbin and owner Stephen Ross talk every week. They visited for nearly 30 minutes after Sunday's 20-7 loss to the New York Jets. At no time during those conversations has he been given assurances he'll be back in 2014. The subject hasn't even come up because both he and Ross seemed to assume the coach would be back.

"We haven't even talked about any of that stuff," Philbin said.

Ross, I'm told, likes Philbin. He doesn't want to fire Philbin.

But the collapse of 2013 in which the Dolphins didn't put up any fight in the two most important games of the season could be a game-changer.



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Now having praised RT, i think he needs to move on without mike sherman. Too many times i see plays that lost yards. Had no imagination and too vanilla for todays offense.

I know you feel that because Tanny and Sherman have been together for so long that they need to stay together for RT to grow, but then the running game suffers. Sherman for whatever reason abandons the run for to quick and never goes back to it. How can a QB grow if he can only use one part of the play book and be a one dimential offense.

I know Marino for most of his career never had a sniff of a running game and look how he did, but i think thats more an aberration than the norm

Sherman need's to take his college playbook and go back to college cuz it aint working in the NFL. The play calling has been absolutely unacceptable this year, West Coast Offense or not...unacceptable. So predictable, unable to make adjustments during the game, no changing the snap count which many teams had figured out...need I go on. Sherman was a good coach back in the day but his unwillingness to change has been what has cost him his job everywhere he has coached. Absolutely has to be fired, period!

Dashi, I would take Alberts in a 2nd. We need a man to handle that LT position day one next year. Not an 19th overall pick. I know Albert is not a perennial all star but he is more than capable. Draft the future LT in the first round flip them in a couple of years or move albert inside for the twilight of his career and draft the rt in a year or two.

We need an anchor out there for this line similar to how Chicago turned around their line fast with Bushrod. Not a perennial pro bowler but a man, not a boy learning on the job. Added Long and got very lucky with Mills and voila... from worst to top 10.

Sherman lead the Packers to 5 straight winning seasons, 3 straight NFC North titles. Yeah, he sucked. GTFOH!!

Posted by: Dashi | December 30, 2013 at 03:51 PM

C'mon Dashi. You know very well Brett Favre was the QB those years. HE led the team to 5 winning seasons, Sherman was just in the right place at the right time. When he had to try and prop up a non-elite QB, he fell back to Earth quickly.

I agree though (with you and Philbin), he's a good coach. But ALL coaches have an expiration date. And I believe Sherman's is 1/1/2014.

Hire Rob Chudzinski as OC then find an outstanding DC who can put us back to where we were a few years ago. Coyle has also let us down and our defense has gotten worse since he arrived.

f4l, can you link the cbs story? I want relish every word as I read it.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | December 30, 2013 at 03:47 PM

Will now go back and look for it!

d29, definitely need a run game - not even a great one, but i would take the production from 2011 which ammassed 1800+ yards to finish middle of the pack. Enough to keep the defenses honest and personally after yesterday and the week before, I would not be sad to see anyone go. Some turnover would honestly be good.. especially when the Qb no longer wants the OC there. Everyone wanted to see Tannehill man up and take charge ... there you go...


Mr. ROSS: Keeping Philbin while firing Sherman, Coyle and/or Turner is a bad move. These are his trusted men and he's loyal to them to a fault. Getting rid of them would forever damage Philbin's relationship with you and Ireland. You recall Sporano forced to dump Henning? That crushed him and fueled his distrust with Ireland and you. You're better off getting rid of the head of the snake.

Dashi- I am sure you are a nice guy.
But Dashi=Delusional.

You are one staunch supporter of the current regime. I will give you that. A regime that has performed subpar at best. A coaching staff that isn't utilizing it's personnel properly AND a GM that can't draft worth a damn and has taken multiple gambles recently with a 90% failure rate.

And supporting Lamar Miller as your RB? Where do you get this stuff?

And as far as Tanny is concerned, how are you so sure he is our franchise QB? He has progressed MILDLY since last year. His pocket awareness and long ball are still a major work in progress.

Unlike your bold statement that he is the future, I would rather see the Fins take someone like the kid from Georgia in the draft and send Tanny a strong message that next year is Make or Break time. Let's face it, even with all of holes the Dolphins need to fill (and there are MANY outside of replacing most of the OL), you ain't going anywhere until you hedge your bet at QB. Tanny has proven very little about our future there.

But keep dreamin'

Jason La Canfora: ‘There Will Be Major Changes With The Dolphins’

November 13, 2013 4:08 PM

Absolute nothing about it on CBS Sports.

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 30, 2013 at 03:55 PM

Received a text somebody sent out on facebook, it is an old story. Apologies!

Don't worry...we'll be the same team next year.

I'm prepared for the worst.

A statement from Ross is coming. "We're still on the right track. It is just a little longer journey than I anticipated. I believe in these guys. We should be relevant no later than 2025."

I really do not see Branden Albert signing with Miami in fa. Things have gotten so much better in KC, so why would he want to come here? Unless, of course, we HUGELY OVERPAY.

Posted by: Sam I Am | December 30, 2013 at 03:36 PM

Anybody signing Albert in FA at this point will grossly over pay for hi services but it won't be K.C.!

In the Rookie CAP ERA they have a commodity in last Yrs. 1 pick, Fisher. He played there for a few weeks and did well when Albert went down with the knee injury for a few weeks after the Denver game.

Albert played under franchise tender this Season banking on 2014 FA bonanza with his replacement drafted as only alternative when the Chiefs found no takers in trade attempt on draft day.

If Ireland and Philbin are safe, than just keep everyone in place, who chose these coaches? We,the fans? Its simple to find an escape goat or goats.This is so depressing that its pitiful,I wish you all the best and good luck in 2014 to you and your love ones.Its just sad to read some of these blogs. How can Ross not see all this?

I love it how Tanny gets a break because he's playing behind the worst OL in Miami Dolphins' history, but Lamar Miller doesn't even though he still gained 709 yards and had a 4.0 ypc running behind the worst OL in Miami Dolphins' history.

With an average OL, he would be a 4.5-5.0 ypc back and with an average OL and less touches given to Daniel Thomas, he could be a 1300-1500 yard back.

Posted by: fin4life | December 30, 2013 at 04:15 PM

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damn you, I had my retirement plans all set with my monkey farm ranch. Your a 3rd rate hate just like me beotch

Wait, now why do you expect Philbin to answer that question?

3rd rate hack I meant


Ross still does not not have a clue what to do with this team. He has no idea how to own an NFL franchise.

Dear Mr Ross, Please sell this team to a competent owner for us the fans who have suffered since the day Joe Robbie died. Please have some sympathy on a very weary fan base!!

What's with the Scott Pioli garbage?

The first thing he would do is trade a first round pick to Minnesota to reunite with his man-crush Matt Cassel. Pioli loves him some Cassel. So much so that he let his faith in Cassel (among other things) drive his Kansas City career into the ground. And Romeo Crennell would replace Coyle. Be careful what you wish for.

Pioli's best draft pick? Eric Berry in 2010 which was kind of a no-brainer at the time. Other serviceable to good picks, Jon Asamoah, Dexter McCluster, Justin Houston.

Other first rounders? Tyson Jackson taken 3rd overall in 2009. Bust for first two years, then has developed his talent into maybe a Jared Odrick-type 3-4 defensive tackle.

Jon Baldwin? 26th overall in 2011. Never contributed. Good chance he's out of the league by the offseason.

Dontari Poe? 11th overall in 2012. Not much in 2012, then had a big start to 2013, then tailed off with the rest of the Chiefs defense. If he ever gets it together, he'd be Vince Wilfork. Right now he's still at project status.

Nothing really separates Pioli's drafting success from Ireland's. I'd argue that Ireland has actually handled the first round better, while Pioli hit on some more 2nd-4th round talent. Pioli liked projects and he would have been all over Dion Jordan much like Ireland.

Quarterback Alex Smith is Andy Ried's guy, but the rest of their star power are all Carl Peterson leftovers. Jamaal Charles (Peterson), Dustin Colquitt (Peterson), Derrick Johnson (Peterson), Brandon Flowers (Peterson), Brandon Albert (Peterson), Tamba Hali (Peterson), Dwayne Bowe (Peterson).

Hmmm. Perplexed. Not really sure where we should go from here.

It seems to me like our big roster upgrade was this year. We have some money to spend next year but not as many draft picks.

It doesn't seem likely that the current group can rebuild the o-line, upgrade the backfield and solve the linebacker / safety quandry with the resouces available. Specifically when there are several contracts to renegotiate.

Maybe some of this years draft will pan out but only one was an o-lineman. It really doesn't appear that the Yeatman and Egnew projects are ever going to bear fruit.

On the other hand, while I was emphatic about a regime change yesterday, the fact that so many other teams are in the market now makes me nervous.

Only a couple of the teams changing their coaches and or GM's will hit the bullseye and I don't like our track record.

Meanwhile as stated earlier the current regime hasn't given us a whole lot of reason to think their plan is working.

Posted by: tvegas | December 30, 2013 at 04:21 PM

How about this:

(Mr. Ross): I continue to have full faith in Coach Philbin. He's improved the team this year, and at this rate, we'll be a 12 win team by 2017. So if the fans can wait another 4 years, we'll take you to the Mountain Top. Now, I (and many fans) might not get there with you, but you'll be at the mountaintop nonetheless. God bless...

mando, wow, and i thought i got upset when my fins played poorly..this is all good though, because these coaches(coming from their backgrounds) know what level their players have to play, they know the talent they must possess, if nothing more these coaches have done a much better job by far at evaluating and selecting talent, philbin has brought a respectable passing game to miami, this alone is a milestone considering the junk that us dolphans had to put up with since the retirement of marino...and i believe this season was just a taste of things to come, the passing game will make another significant leap next year, you have to remember that a year or two back this offense was totally lost, philbins second year displayed a passing game to be proud, there is light at the end of philbins tunnel unlike the multitude of coaches before him, when you have the likes of keller and gibson coming back and an upcoming offseason where the needs are CLEAR and few(compared to years prior) i just don't see your point...the only way the future of this team could look any brighter is if they had drafted another quarterback to farm that is waiting in the wings that might fetch a first round pick, or one that is so talanted that it puts productive pressure on tannehill and gives the fans something else to feel at ease about or look forward to. to rid ourselves of the best coach this team has seen since don shula is ridiculous.

DZ has covered the same concerns I have. Well done. Agree on L Smith. Sherman is a bust and is the one I believe holding Tannehill back with abysmal play calling, cadence issues, running our weakest plays into the strength of the opposing defense, failure to play the two 6'5" TEs in the red zone, not using those TEs in the seam, and so on. Yes, Egnew takes a lot of heat but he was never a blocking TE and should have been thrown into the fire last year. This owner should have sniffed out the Zach Taylor hire immediately. As soon as I see a coach with a title who has never coached the teams most important position, I would have fired him in the spot. Defensively this team needs to decide if they are going to be a 3/4 or a 4/3 and build accordingly. Too much indecision, not enough confusion causing elements for opposing QBs. When a practice squad QB beats you twice and G. Smith looks like a five year vet, there are problems with the scheme.

Ross wanted to hire Harbaugh, except Harbaugh didn't like the smell of Ireland. Ross wanted Peyton Manning but Manning didn't like the smell of Ireland either. Ross has good ideas about what kind of people he needs to have around to turn this into a winning franchise but until he gets rid of that smelly fish Ireland nothings going to change. Ireland is the only consistant thing with this recent loosing franchise. That should come clear to Ross real soon...

Hmm, 19th pick in the draft. Now all we need to do is look for an injured player, that will be a late bloomer and will take 3-4 years to develop into a decent (but not superstar) player. SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM! This is a job for Jeff Ireland!


Posted by: Soiled Diaper Ireland | December 30, 2013 at 04:22 PM

Like I said, apologies! Jumped the gun after the joy-gasm I got from reading an incoming text without opening it catching the date stamp!

I am more distraught than you as I would pack your bags, give you a ride and kiss your wife goodbye while I'm at it!


Can we get Mike Nolan back? The defense is headed in the wrong direction in a hurry.

NFL Live "Silence in Miami right now"

I have been reading posts all day trying to get a feel of what is a good decision for this team. I hate to say I have no clue.

I think Tanny is well good enough and is growing, so I do not think h is the big problem here.

Our D is over-rated. Or terribly coached, not sure which one. We needto sign Grimes back. IMO.

O-cord seems dated, however I will say there were many missed plays, deep balls, where receivers got VERY open. So the playws were not awful. Some of the passes were, and some of the hands were. Where do you go with that?

O-line is the only glaring disaster. Lamar Miller did not have a chance, Tanny was scared for his life. And I am maybe the only one here but I thought Daniel Thomas looked better than I thought And he showed some upside when there is a place to run.

I do not have answers obviously, and that is what scares me.

I love it how Tanny gets a break because he's playing behind the worst OL in Miami Dolphins' history, but Lamar Miller doesn't even though he still gained 709 yards and had a 4.0 ypc running behind the worst OL in Miami Dolphins' history.

With an average OL, he would be a 4.5-5.0 ypc back and with an average OL and less touches given to Daniel Thomas, he could be a 1300-1500 yard back.

Posted by: DZ | December 30, 2013 at 04:22 PM

I have 2 great problems with Lamar Smith. Until he corrects these, he'll never be the complete answer at rb:

1. East-West RB

If you'll notice, his first instinct is all ways to go east and west. Even when he does go north-south, it seems he doesn't do it with real urgency. Unless the hole is wide enough for even our grandmothers to go thru in their walkers.

2. Questionable As A 3 Down RB

CAPITALIZED = PASS PROTECT/SHORT YARDAGE. Miller is a potential LIABILITY in both these areas.

How can you sue him for short yardage situations when his "natural inclination seems to be to run east-west? As I said, when he does run north-south, it seems to be with "very little conviction".

Pass protect? This is still an area he needs to grow by "LEAPS and BOUNDS".

Right now, by the "ever slimmest" of margins could Lamar Miller be viewed as a "3 DOWN BACK".


if what Shefner reports is true then this franchise just lost more credibility if thats even possible.

One more year isnt going to make a difference. We have more holes now than going into last offseason and the guy picked to stock the roster cant get out of his own way.

As long as Philbin and Ireland are at the helm. This team will win jack squat

This team needs a HC that inspires players, that shows passion, either anger or happiness. This guy is a college professor on finals. Joe Roboto wasn't made for HC. Nice, smart and discipline. I would like him too, but he lacks the enthusiam to jolt his players to higher performance while in the heat of the battle. On the side lines, he seems lost, aloof instead.
Reading his post games remarks from an index card. How sterile and boring. Like our record this year.
He's bland and nice. No more, no less.
Like his record: average. And that's mediocrity at its best. The Dolphins will be a mediocre team until the Dolphins organization match talent with passion.

Miller ran hard yesterday.

Posted by: mia73 | December 30, 2013 at 04:28 PM

Damn good post and very true! Crennell probably does get hired along with Mangini the following day! Cassell tarded for to push Tannehill ect....

Calling a N.E. DC a great Coach is a stretch given the hoodie is always all over that side of the ball, have you seen the fat guy with the beard he has running the show now? Think he scheme's what they do?

Adam Schefter is reporting all the coaches and the front office is on the hot seat.

Posted by: Poizen | December 30, 2013 at 04:36 PM

Tannehill absolutely needs a run game and rb's who can consistently pass protect, to truly be successful.

I believe Tannehill has proven he can carry this team for 2-3 game stretches(2 stretches of 3-0). But this may be about it. Being a top 5 franchise caliber qb that can carry a team on his shoulders for an entire season. Just may not be in his persona or ability.

Even if he eventually does develop into a qb that can carry a team for an entire season. This may still be 3-4yrs or more away. In the meantime, we had better get him a very strong run game, or many more 8-8 seasons loom in our future.

Teams Philbin out coached this year = 0.

2014 Front office and Head Coach = Bill Polian and Tony Dungy.

"Calling a N.E. DC a great Coach is a stretch given the hoodie is always all over that side of the ball, have you seen the fat guy with the beard he has running the show now? Think he scheme's what they do?"

If the Patriots get to the Super Bowl again, some team somewhere is going to give that fat guy with the beard millions of dollars. And then in about three years he's just going to be another fat guy with a beard out of a job. I wonder how many millions of dollars Belichick and Brady have made for mediocre position coaches and and coordinators just by association alone.

O.K. this I just saw with my own eyes on NFL NETWORK!

Ian Rappaport, reporting Philbin is safe but Sherman is in deep water because it's apparent Tannehill has indeed stated he has NO-FAITH in Sherman!

Zero on Ireland or Coyle, there awaiting news on the Ross presser to address state of team and pending future.

Only t-vegas seemed to have it right!

Jeff Ireland creating a problem by re-vamping the LB's with less talent.

Ireland created a problem by not even offering Reggie Bush a contract.

7 points in 8 qtrs (120 minutes)....Sherman must go!

The longer Ross wrings his hands & vacillates, the less likely the moves that MUST be made WILL be made.
Will any fans truly get jacked up for draft & new season with FIRELAND & Casper Phailbin still in vharge??
This team, and us fansŰ, MUST HAVE A NEW START!!
PLEASE ROSS, get a new gm & a new hc&staff immediately, to start setting up for next year.
The utter unprepared "performance" in the Buffalo debacle, repeated yesterday alone justify Failbin's firing. The LT debacle, highest paid Wallace mistake, signing Acorns Wheeler & Acorn Ellerbe, by themselves justify FIRELAND. PLEASE LET THEM GO PRONTO.

I wonder how many millions of dollars Belichick and Brady have made for mediocre position coaches and and coordinators just by association alone.

Posted by: mia73 | December 30, 2013 at 04:48 PM

Boat-Loads! Don't forget the 5 Mil per Charlie Weiss got out of Notre Dame after the last S.B. win every stop since including taking over as OC for the Univ. of Fl. after U.Meyer left that loaded group has been a failure!

Ireland spentg $200 million for a 1 win improvement over last year...bye bye...bad investment. If Ross cannot do that simple math, then he is a friggin moron.

Brent Grimes, Paul solai, Randy Starks, Chris Clemons are all without contracts. Great job Jeffy! Imagine their incentive to come out and play for the Dolphins these last two games.

"not that far away...." I like Coach Philbin, but "come on man"!

7 points in 8 qtrs (120 minutes)....Sherman must go!

Posted by: Ultimate Fin Fan | December 30, 2013 at 04:51 PM

Yeah, I see you saw that NFL Net. report as well regarding Sherman. The dagger for him is his College QB tossing him under the bus after yesterdays game as well.

Posted by: Ultimate Fin Fan | December 30, 2013 at 04:51 PM

Yeah, I see you saw that NFL Net. report as well regarding Sherman. The dagger for him is his College QB tossing him under the bus after yesterdays game as well.

True fin4life....this team's nucleus is beyond repair....new management is needed now.

Posted by: fin4life | December 30, 2013 at 04:49 PM

My first post of the day stated this after reading the blog topic. Just read the things Philbin is saying in his presser.

Sounds like a man that has already been given a vote of confidence by Ross. He's talking about the "future" like he already knows he has a place in it.

I also think Ireland is safe pending outcome of Martin/cogs report. If not implicating in any wrong doing. I painfully see Ireland returning too.

I see, just as in 2010, the only scapegoat will be OC(Sherman). It 2010, it was Sherman. I can so see the same repeat by Ross.

Let's not forget the snap count - GO / GO-GO...my son's pee wee league is more advanced than that!

Doesnt every dolphins fan out there realize that we are regurgitating the same news articles and sports talk stuff now for the past 13 years!!!!!!! Even if this team had beat the jets which they cant , how on reath can you go into the playoffs of you can t score more than 7 lousy points in 2 games against non playoffs teams??? Yes it would have gave you a feel good feeling for about a week but i can assure you that the ass whipping we would have taken in cincinatti would have been as bad as the beating we took in baltimore 5 years ago. Making the playoffs only to get bitched slapped into submission in the first round isnt exactly what i would call a succesfull franchise. Look @ the hated patriots .... now thats a succesfull football franchise . What we have here is a fraud and quite frankly its getting very old indeed.

Failbin is Sherman is Coyle is Failbi. Failbin's a milktoast, uninspiring dull as dishwater coach. Will NEVER succeed as HC.

No GM/HC Changes=2014 4-12. Tannehill will never progress under this regime. He is not talented enough to get there without a real god staff/team around him.

Posted by: tomkat | December 30, 2013 at 02:15 PM

Who is? Hall of famer Steve Young had a QBR of 63 in Tampa Bay. After he got traded to SF he averaged over 100.

I would say that when the Broncos drafted Hall of Famer Elway they were a better organization than Miami is now yet his QBR was a pedestrian 67 his first two years there. Matter of fact it took him 10 years to break out above 85.

Archie Manning was a very good QB on a very bad team -- one as disfunctional as the current Dolphins. His career QBR was 67.

Tanny's after two years is 79.


Yes and No, on your point on Sherman having Farce. Favre had his best seasons under Sherman. So Sherman did have Brett but he also made Brett the best ball of his career.

Sherman helped install the system in Houston when Kubiak first got the job in Houston.

Agreed. Coaches have an expiration date. But Sherman still has a couple years left.

Now what I will say which is true. Sherman should've adapted his system to the players he has instead of the other way around.


Then when you get players for the system that you want to run you have to reinstall your offense.

Perfect example look at the Redskins. Last year they ran RG3 college system for him to have an easy transition, but this year when Shanahan wanted to implement more of his system it blew up in his face.

It's a double edged sword. Win Now to Fail Later, or Struggle Now to Win Later.

Hmmm, so Ross maybe taking Tannehill's council? Interesting for sure. Hope Ross is smart enough to know Sherman is only part of the problem.

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