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The Dolphins world according to Joe Philbin

Joe Philbin had his season-ending press conference on Monday. It had its interesting moments. It had its head-scratching moments.

Philbin's evaluation of the 2013 season and his evaluation of the team are underway but his message on each seemed unpolished. The coach, you see, believes the season was nothing grand ...

"It was average. We were 8-8. It was an average season," he said. "There's areas we need to improve starting with me. 8-8 is not where this franchise wants to be, needs to be or should be.

"We need to make changes, adjustments, tweaks, additions, deletions."

And yet, in the next breath, Philbin said the Dolphins are close to reaching their goals of winning a championship.

"We're not that far away," he said. "We're close."

Philbin's logic is that the team was 8-6 and a victory away from the postseason tournament. No, they didn't win either game at season's end, but he still believes that constitutes being close to some degree.

Look, the Dolphins are not close. They have the potential to be a good team but it is clear this coaching staff could not get the players to perform up to that potential. That's a problem.

And I don't see how a team that needs a virtually complete offensive line rebuild (outside of Mike Pouncey), a running back, and addressing of linebacker problems, can be considered close. I don't see how a team whose offensive coordinator failed to significantly improve his unit and whose offensive line coach failed to keep his unit from being a disaster can be close.

As far as Philbin is concerned, however, he seems to think his staff is strong.

"I have a lot of faith and confidence in myself and the staff and our players that we can make the corrections necessary to lead this team to play up to its potential and lead this team to a championship," Philbin said. "That's what I said the day I got here. I stand by what I said the day I got here and I'm confident I can do that."

Philbin knows he has to make a decision on Mike Sherman and Jim Turner. If he doesn't know, he's ignorant to the facts of 2013. But he refused to give an inch on the idea any of his coaches might have to go.

"I'm going to talk to every single player and every single coach and we'll decide and determine 2014 at a later point in time," he said. "I have a lot of confidence in our staff, our offensive staff, Mike Sherman. He's an excellent football coach. That's what I think."

I asked Philbin if, given his close relationship with Sherman, he is capable of either firing Sherman or convincing him to fade away via resignation.

"I'm beginning the evaluation of the 2013 season and we haven't made any decisions on who's coming back and who isn't," Philbin said, dodging the question. "We'll have all those discussions at the appropriate time."

No, I said. The question is whether you are capable of firing Sherman if it comes to that?

"That's my answer," Philbin said.

Philbin and owner Stephen Ross talk every week. They visited for nearly 30 minutes after Sunday's 20-7 loss to the New York Jets. At no time during those conversations has he been given assurances he'll be back in 2014. The subject hasn't even come up because both he and Ross seemed to assume the coach would be back.

"We haven't even talked about any of that stuff," Philbin said.

Ross, I'm told, likes Philbin. He doesn't want to fire Philbin.

But the collapse of 2013 in which the Dolphins didn't put up any fight in the two most important games of the season could be a game-changer.

 

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To dusty at 6.21 PM
Yeah i would get rid of philbin but theres been reports that him and ireland are safe so thats why i did not mention philbin. Definitely his biggest problem is he got rid of reall good players (long bush marshall and dansby) because of there strong personality? I mean really your a coach you have to live with your players strong personalities because when a player is like this he tends to have the will to win and these are the leaders in the locker room

Philbin cannot assume anything about next year as the buck of that locker room scandal stops with him and ultimately Ross.

Emperor I agree. Coyle and Sherman need to go. Ross needs to give Philbin an ultimatum. Either those two clowns go or you go with them. Unfortunately, it does not look like that is going to happen.

Leaders in the locker room something our dolphins clearly lack( no icognito does not count)

Yes, Oscar, I write with my real name. NOT the one given to me at birth, but the one I have earned in this life.

You know my point. I could care less if you don't use your government name such as yourself. Just use 1 name that we can go back to for integrity purposes.

Hate Dashi all you want. Say Dashi is wrong all you want. But everything Dashi says can be traced back to him even when Dashi uses another name to post under. I still let it be known that it is me.

Honest to God Truth. None of us here are probably ever going to meet in real life. So why run and hide like someone is actually going to confront you in real life.

I just read that Karlos Dansby has been selected D Player of the Year.

Comparing a guy that has had a bad year with a guy who has had a bad year means ZERO.

Posted by: Marco | December 30, 2013 at 05:57 PM

Means ZERO only to someone with limited cognition. The takeaway is that saying Tannehill is no good because of the last two games but giving a pass to Flacco who performed the same makes no logical sense.

Either those two games are a statement on the who the QB is or they aren't. That Flacco has a ring means nothing because you can't know whether Tanny will get one. But I wouldn't expect you to understand so I think I will take tomkat's advice.

2014 Prediction for AFC EAST:

Patriots 10-6

Jets 9-7

Phins 6-10

Bills 6-10

Jimmy you already know what we do in FA and the draft???

Jimmy please tell me the winning lotto numbers. I will split it with you.

With so much cap room why on earth did Ireland not sign Grimes to a long term deal before he was selected a pro bowler? Same happened with Long, Bush, we let them walk away for nothing. SMH.

Folks, the moron we have as owner will not make any changes. He probably wants to fire Ireland but any decent GM would want to bring his own guy and for whatever reason he wants to keep Philbin no matter what (I smell Aponte).

Another year of Ireland-Philbin and you can pencil this franchise under endangered species, at least in SoFla. I personally will not buy anything related to this farce and will not watch this team until Ross cleans house, not worth my time. BTW good luck with the 19th pick, lol, I said it all along after Bullygate when Ross had a chance to press reset and let an interim coach to audition all of our rookies while earning a better draft position.

I just read that Karlos Dansby has been selected D Player of the Year.

Posted by: oscar canosa | December 30, 2013 at 06:33 PM


But dashe told us Dansby was terrible. Maybe the voting was fixed?

Dusty,

Statistically after next season T-Hill will be the 2nd best dolphins QB in history.

Maybe cause I am not from that era but I believe Griese gets more credit than he deserves. Shula was in his prime. 2 great RBs maybe 3, and one of the best defenses of all time. The team was still perfect with a backup leading them.


Maybe cause I am not from that era but I believe Griese gets more credit than he deserves. Shula was in his prime. 2 great RBs maybe 3, and one of the best defenses of all time. The team was still perfect with a backup leading them.

Posted by: Dashi | December 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM

You are definitely wrong on this point. Compare Griese's stats to other QB's of his era. He was a HOFer. Yes we ran more that pass that was the game back then and yes Morrall won in his place but make no mistake Griese was a good QB.

Maybe cause I am not from that era but I believe Griese gets more credit than he deserves.

Posted by: Dashi | December 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM

Msybe? No. Definitely. Griese had the best timing of his day, maybe the best of all those that came before him.

WTF is there to think about ,? We were out coach in at least 6 ,games this year . No in game adjustments, no innovations on either side of the ball ! #3 pick in the draft that only played maybe 1/4 of D snaps ! No development of any of the picks for that matter ! And your best D linemen flipping off side line ! So really?

(I wonder what Dashi means)

dashe you are much to young to be spouting away on here that you are a know it all.

You can't see how childish most of your opinions are. You lack wisdom. You can't buy that or fake it.

Come back in 20 years.

Thigpen has no idea when to field kickoff's and punts, and when he did there was always a holding penalty.

Posted by: West Coast Fins Fan | December 30, 2013 at 06:24 PM

Did you ever notice that given a choice he always seem to run into coverage?

The biggest lost from last year was Karlos Dansy. He was dominant for the Cardinals.

Phillip Wheeler was rated dead last by PFF for 4-3 LBs. Karlos Dansby must be laughing his butt off.

I have been a Dolphins fan since 1984. I have been through the glory days of Shula and Marino and I have been through the post Shula and Marino days. I have supported this team through good and the ugly. It is very disappointing to see fans and media to continue to drag this great franchise through the mud. We all want to get back to the days of the Shula and Marino era but we are forgetting one thing they are not walking back through the door. We are in search of the next era for this great franchise. The team that can get us back to championships and consistent contention for the AFC East Title. There has been talk that Philbin and Ross have destroyed a base that was better than what we have now. I disagree. Take a look around. The past teams did not have this much talent and did not have the ability to be elite. We can see improvement all around. We improved to 8-8 after consecutive 7-9 seasons. We not only had a chance to go to the playoffs but win the division at one point. These two things have not been possible since 2008 when we did it by a fad of an offense. Look at the playoff contenders this team beat in the regular season. All teams we could have beaten again in the playoffs had we made it. We are improving as an organization. Something we have not done from one year to the next since Shula and Marino. So when Joe Philbin says we are close I have to agree. This is a young team that is growing up in front of our eyes. The losses and inconsistency we saw this year were lessons that needed. To be learned. Nessecary steps that needed to be taken to continue to grow. Lessons that will help this team on there way to consistent championship play. So I say to you phons nation and Armando do you have what it takes to look at the whole story and see what is the phines of the old and what is a young team bloosoming right in front of you? I know I do! I know I believe in this young team and I am ready for a new era! Are you?

Dashi is soup

Sherman after his news conference called Mike Sherman an "excellent coach". Don't expect Sherman to be going anywhere.

Hopefully, we can at least jettison Coyle. Who has destroyed this defense.

(I wonder what Dashi means)

Posted by: oscar canosa | December 30, 2013 at 06:45 PM

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The most common form of dashi is a simple broth or fish stock made by heating water containing edible kelp and fish shavings to near-boiling, then straining the resultant liquid.

I like Philbin as coach, but - if he can't see that he needs a new OC and new DC - then maybe he needs to go also - because there is a lot of needs on offense including play calling - and the defense is worse - can't stop the run - the new lb's we paid big money for did NOTHING !!

Udonis Dad was a great basketball player.

I personally will not buy anything related to this farce and will not watch this team until Ross cleans house, not worth my time.

Posted by: Ectoplasm | December 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM

I'll watch. Don't want to miss the crash and burn.


Posted by: Ectoplasm | December 30, 2013 at 06:41 PM

All good points.

For those who are fans of Todd Bowles, it's being reported that Cleveland wants to interview him for the head coaching position.

I know there are more than a few fans that wish he had been hired after he was an interim coach for the Dolphins.

For sure, I think Bowles would have been better than Philbin. Basically, Philbin is a neutered Tony Sparano.


Sherman after his news conference called Mike Sherman an "excellent coach". Don't expect Sherman to be going anywhere.

Hopefully, we can at least jettison Coyle. Who has destroyed this defense.

Posted by: Orlando Dolphan | December 30, 2013 at 06:49 PM

Sorry, I meant to say Philbin said...


Sherman after his news conference called Mike Sherman an "excellent coach". Don't expect Sherman to be going anywhere.

Hopefully, we can at least jettison Coyle. Who has destroyed this defense.

Posted by: Orlando Dolphan | December 30, 2013 at 06:49 PM

Sorry, I meant to say Philbin said...

Posted by: Orlando Dolphan | December 30, 2013 at 06:52 PM

same thing buddy Sherman tells philbin what to say

Dashi is a class of soup and cooking stock used in Japanese cuisines.

The most common form of dashi is a simple broth or fish stock made by heating water containing edible kelp and fish shavings to near-boiling, then straining the resultant liquid.

You are definitely wrong on this point. Compare Griese's stats to other QB's of his era. He was a HOFer. Yes we ran more that pass that was the game back then and yes Morrall won in his place but make no mistake Griese was a good QB.
Posted by: tomKat | December 30, 2013 at 06:44 PM

He went to 8 pro bowls and twice NFL MVP. Yeah, he was no good.

dashi is like pus but with a dried fish taste.

Posted by: Sigh | December 30, 2013 at 06:52 PM

Thanks for the update Sigh! If I was Bowles the first man I am bringing to that coaching staff is Brian Dabol to be my offensive coordinator.

I was a huge Bowles fan and was upset when they let him go. He took the team to a 6-3 record down the stretch and had the respect of his players. The biggest mistake that Ross has made so far as dolphins owner was not bringing Bowles back.

This team is supposedly "close"? Does a team that is close fail to show up not once but twice against division rivals with everything on the line? To be beaten is one thing but to go out meekly and without even putting up a fight? This team is not close by any stretch of the imagination.

What he meant was that this team is close.....to LAST PLACE!!

I guess instead of Black Monday we're getting unclear January....just crickets.

...Yeah Griese is only a Hall of Famer..Tannehill has a ways to go before he can even eat at is table.

..So I think people have every right to bang on Tannehill today. They have the right to have no faith in the coaches, the GM...The whole team blew a sweet opportunity. IMO, I think some of the opinions that rip Tannehill are a bit strong.

I think what he did all year is really remarkable. How many year 2 quarterbacks would have wilted under the pressure of the responsibility this team put on his shoulders? How many would have been able to stand back there and trust the protection this team pretended to afford him? It isn't a video game. This is real.

Tannehill played in an advanced system that is really meant for an expert. What I mean is that the coaches put a lot on him. He is asked to do what some veteran quarterbacks who have much more experience aren't asked to do. Do you guys realize how much we threw the ball this year? Again...It is an insane amount. It is insane for a year 2 quarterback..No matter his name.

Yes Tannehill struggles at times. Yes he played awful the last 2 weeks when it mattered the most. Yes he sucks at throwing the deep ball. He has a ways to go recognizing and getting in the right protections. Sure he could tuck and run more..He has a lot to improve on.

He has more then earned the right to be the man here. It is his team..Next year is going to be the sink or swim season for him. He should have the confidence of the team, and the fan base behind him waiting to see him blossom, or as I think many would rather...Fail.

This was a flawed team. This was a team asking a boy to do mans work..The boy more then held his own.

Oh, thank you. In any case, I don't like sea-weed.


I know there are more than a few fans that wish he had been hired after he was an interim coach for the Dolphins.

For sure, I think Bowles would have been better than Philbin. Basically, Philbin is a neutered Tony Sparano.

Posted by: Sigh | December 30, 2013 at 06:52 PM

This is simply being done to satisfy the Rooney rule, just as Miami did with him.

Also, dashi, in American indian, means "he who grabs thy ankles"

Posted by: darryldunphy | December 30, 2013 at 07:00 PM

As usual the voice of reason. excellent post DD. Im sure Marco or MarC will take issue with this excellent post.

We are the Red sox of football. 80 YEARS ???
41 MORE YEARS FOLKS..... HOPE I LIVE TO SEE IT !!!

"a neutered Tony Sparano"... HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAA

Why do moronic bloggers continue to argue and cut up each other and their names on these blogs. Who the hell cares what Dashi means or is etc. You are wasting everyone's time who has to scroll through all that crap. Can't we all just agree on one thing, the Dolphins are in a state of flux, they are in trouble, they are a rudderless ship floating at sea, they need a captain,(a new coach and GM) and new players (leaders and winners)to steer them straight. It is not going to be an easy fix, but the sooner Ross gets on with firing everyone the quicker he can rebuild. If he waits any longer, all the good coaches and coordinators will be long gone and we will be stuck again with 3rd and 4th or worse options!! Open your ears (they are big enough!!) and open your fat wallet now!!!


Also, dashi, in American indian, means "he who grabs thy ankles"


Posted by: FYI | December 30, 2013 at 07:02 PM


I don't believe this is true but I fell outta my chair laughing.

You must mean "he who grabs his ankles".

Philban looks like a deer in a headlight You an see him starring blankly at the jumbo tron looking like he has no idea what he is suppose to be doing. No excitment, no yelling anything during the game. As far as OC sherman has to realize we cannot run the ball but he still runs on 1st nad 2nd downs putting us in a 3rd and long situation No roll outs called for a fairly mobile qb No let him sit in the pocket and get sacked a bazillion times real smart. and how bout jeff ireland let trade up for an injured player and only use him 12 plays a game great 1st round pick

Age Doesn't Equal Experience.

Dashi has never claimed to be a know it all. Just that I know more than you.

Dashi is tired of explaining what Dashi is. So do a better job looking it up, or eat up the soup(you can also suck and swallow it, but some here get offended by that). Dashi is everywhere and means different things in different languages.

The world according to Joe Philbin,

(On whether or not Tannehill improved). I think Ryan is the best QB ever to play the game. Better than Cleo Lemon. Better than John Beck. Better than Chad Henne. we know he struggled with the long ball, so he is going to get lots of practice throwing with both hands in the offseason.

(On the OL). Of course we want to give up less than less than 58 sacks. Next year, we hope to only give up 55 sacks.

(On the run defense). Well, teams are running for 200 hundred yards a game on us because they are afraid to pass on us. So, I look at this as a glass half full situation. It would be nice if we could stop a run every now and then, but if we did, the other team might unleash a lot of 60 yard TD strikes.

(On Mike Sherman). He's a great offensive coach. The best. I think our record attests to that. I mean, who would ever predict a ten yard pitch back on 4th and inches or running the TE into the pile on short yardage. It catches us off guard. He such a genius, he will throw every down against a defense that gives up 10 yards a carry.

(On the kicker). Carpenter was fantastic this year...(Aponte gives him a note card). Uh, Sturgis was just outstanding. Now if only he could avoid missing any kick over 20 yards, we'll be all set there.

(On Ireland). (Aponte straightens Philbins tie and dabs his drool). Jeff has just supplied us with almost too much talent. I mean, we could not even play the third overall pick of the draft more than a couple of snaps a game. The other players didn't play at all. Of course, some had to work second jobs to pay off the veterans' meal tabs. But, the talent on this team is the best in the whole league.

(On the 8-8 finish). Of course, we wanted to go 16-0. But the breaks just did not go our way. But we're close. We're so close. Did I do OK Dawn?

Boy, Fin Fan, that was some kind of scroll.


Age Doesn't Equal Experience.


Posted by: Dashi | December 30, 2013 at 07:07 PM

I usually agree with much of what you write Dashi, but you could not be more wrong.

Age ALWAYS equals experience

Unfortunately you don't learn this until you age!!

I am looking forward to the draft this yr maybe we can actually drafta player who can help us. or sign another LB who is slow and sucks gainst the run

Thanks for bringing up the points on Griese. Guess you can call him a Field General.

Still you can say Griese was good not great. He wasn't Tankerton. Or had a Cannon for an Arm.

Those teams were great teams. Even the O-line on that team was great.

No, Indian names were shorter. He grabs ankles would be right....think Dances with wolves

Agree DD. Another thing folks don't realize is that there are only a few QB's who can carry a bad team on their back and all of them are elite veterans.

Steve Young sucked as a Buccaneer but put him on a great 49ers team and he's a sure to be in the hall.

If he waits any longer, all the good coaches and coordinators will be long gone

Posted by: FinFanFoster | December 30, 2013 at 07:05 PM


How do you know who they are? Every season 5 or 6 coaches get fired and every one of those teams believes they've found someone better. Rarely does it work out that way though. (Shanahan perfect example, but there are tons more)

Now it is time to move the clock forward to the off season. The fins will build the offensive line in FA and not in the draft. They will take a similar approach to the OL as WR last year. A lot of pieces will need to be replaced.

Philbin will probably try to bring in more playmakers to the offense in the draft. Here is what I think the fins will do based on Philbin's history.

1st pick: Jace Amarao TE has had fantastic year, and he's the top tight end if he leaves Texas Tech.

2nd pick- Aaron Donald DT- A tremendous pass rusher on the inside from Pitt. Fins will have to replace Starks. Starks is another guy with a strong personality that probably scares Philbin, so he is gone.

3rd pick: Carlos Hyde- A fan favorite on this blog. I am not sure that Phiblin will bring a big strong physical back to the fins but they need it.

I am hoping for Aaron Murray in the 4th round, a FB in the 5th like JC Copeland and for the rest of the draft best player available. I am not sure Philbin will bring in a full back as he does not believe in them.

PHILBIN'S NAME MEANS .. BALD STOIC MAN WITH DRY SENSE OF HUMOR WITH BAD JUDGMENT OF HIS CHOICE OFOFFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

What the world needs is a neutered dashe.

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