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Victory Monday: Ireland safe, locker room well, Philbin good

PITTSBURGH -- I reported in my column that appears in Monday's Miami Herald that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross has given Jeff Ireland assurances he is safe in his job as general manager.

It has been long speculated around league circles that Ireland could be something of a scapegoat after this season if the Dolphins didn't reach certain heights -- most likely making the playoffs -- or if the continuing NFL investigation finds some sort of lack of institutional control within the organization that led to Richie Incognito to somehow harass Jonathan Martin.

That speculation was fed the evening of November 11 when Ross spoke in glowing terms about coach Joe Philbin but did not mention Ireland other than to say he would be on one of his committees.

It was as if Ross was supporting his head coach while throwing his GM under the bus.

But I'm told Ross and Ireland have discussed the GM's status and the speculation is not accurate -- at least not right now. Obviously, there are three games remaining in the regular season and the Dolphins are neither in the playoffs nor out of the playoff hunt so no final declarations or assertions of fact can be made on the matter.

But for now, that which is being widely assumed -- that Ireland is a goner after the season -- is not correct.

And you know what?

Right now, keeping Ireland would seem to be the right call. Indeed, keeping the current administration -- personnel dept., coaching staff -- as status quo seems right based on the results the team is getting.

That's not how I felt back when the Dolphins lost to winless Tampa Bay and the NFL investigation was in its infancy. At that point it seemed as if the Dolphins were a mess internally and Ross needed to clean house.

But the team has won three of four games since then, the so-called "Code Red" reported by two South Florida media outlets has been debunked by team sources, and the locker room that was supposedly in disrepair has come together.

Even the offensive line that seemed to be a mess doesn't look so bad now. (The Dolphins averaged 7.5 yards per carry against Pittsbugh).

That all requires credit given to the players and coaches that previously came under earned criticism. Fair is fair. Tyson Clabo was a turnstile to the quarterback early in the season. He's been good the past month. Offensive line coach Jim Turner, offensive coordinator Mike Sherman, and yes, head coach Joe Philbin, made mistakes and were criticized earlier this seaosn.

Lately, they've made corrections, corrected course even as they remained convinced what they've been doing is right, and it has worked. 

This team's course has changed. And that must be noted and accepted as fact now.

Obviously, the season is not over. And if this NFL season has proven anything it's to expect the unexpected. So no one knows whether the Dolphins will continue their current hot streak and perhaps finish the season 10-6. No one knows if the Dolphins might also collapse and finish 7-9.

The point is to draw conclusions on what will happen based on what we know today is unwise. To say the offense or defense is this or that based on what we saw early in the season is unwise.

The wise thing, I believe, is to see what actually happens before we make proclamations about the 2013 Dolphins. Let's see what happens first. Let's watch the next three weeks and judge afterward.

Enjoy.

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WRONG!!! The last pass from Rapelisberger was not a backwards pass. It was a forward pass after the ball crossed the line of scrimmage...upon review a TD would not have held up.

hey watch it bill, jags playing great ball. houston worst team now

Walyfin that how ESPN and NFL Net always repsot a Dolphins win....the HATE the fact that we were once an undefeated team. Remember growing up the were fans of some other team and had to live through the Dolphins ALWAYS kicking their a s s.

eager roth threw a forward lateral during play, would of never counted

WRONG!!! The last pass from Rapelisberger was not a backwards pass. It was a forward pass after the ball crossed the line of scrimmage...upon review a TD would not have held up.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 09, 2013 at 06:00 PM


Nope. Look at it again. It was a legal pass.


If Brown hadn't run out of bounds on his own, we'd all be angry today.

Posted by: EagerPhin | December 09, 2013 at 05:58 PM

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Wrong. Illegal forward lateral on the play that would have negated the touchdown.

Clear as day, and mentioned by local Pittsburgh announcers after the game (I live there).

The play would have ben reviewed and no TD would have been called. The ball was dead and the game over the instant Roethlisberger forward lateraled it.

dusty on paper Houston should be the #1 or 2 seed for the playoffs.....Jags are HORRIBLE....can you say Henne??

eloy wasnt even close

So Lamar got his bell rung? No matter, happens to the best of Them.


Nope. Look at it again. It was a legal pass.

Posted by: Eloy | December 09, 2013 at 06:03 PM

We don't have to look at it again....it is you that has to look at it again. Youre the only person in the world that thinks it was a legal pass.

bill houston is awful as they should be. when u have no qb doesnt matter about rest

only Marino pointed out the forward lateral yesterday, not one other analyst. all they said was how the Steelers lost by one inch.

henne, ewwww still nightmares over that garbage. how is he still in the nfl

Youre the only person in the world that thinks it was a legal pass.

Posted by: Bill Arnsparger | December 09, 2013 at 06:05 PM

Your the only person in the world that assume your opinion is correct.

Dang another snow storm hitting us tomorrow.....the northeast suxxxxx! 22 days to retirement....YEAHHH!

Eloy its a FACT not an opinion...FACT. The tape don't lie! If the gloves fit you must convict!!

Look at the tape. Afraid of reality?

Even the local Pittsburgh TV analysts admitted it was a forward lateral after the game.

Once again: The ball was dead and the game OVER the INSTANT Roethlisberger forward lateraled. Nothing that happened after that would have mattered after review.

This is not even debatable among anyone that knows the rules of football.

I get the feeling some folks may not, lol.

BASIC TACKLING NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY!!! Then Philbin needs to quit being a conservative chicken $h!T!!! SHOW UP & BEAT THE PATSIES PLEASE!!! GO FINS

Ok Troll alert....we now know that Eloy is a troll....ATTACK dusty!!

You guys are seriously delusional. Just believe what you want to believe.

Tell me something children - Can you explain why that pass shows up on his stat sheet?

Chew on that for awhile.

Eloy, you may want to invest in the services of an optometrist.

There is NOBODY disputing it was a forward lateral--not even the TV folks in Pittsburgh.

You must be watching the game through a funhouse mirror, dude.

hilarious bill

Let it lie. Take it like a bad nightmare. It didn't happen, man.

Eloy, you're starting to seriously embarrass yourself now.

The pass that shows up in Roethlisberger's stat sheet is the FIRST one he threw on that play...which was perfectly legal.

But he touched the ball TWICE, remember? The SECOND time he had the ball he tossed the FORWARD LATERAL, which meant the ball was dead and the game over the instant it left his hand.

So, who's the "child" here again?

Get your eyes fixed, dude.

WTF, Hartline almost took that flag out of Philbin's hand. Anybody has had a chance to ask Philbin about it?

National media....Pittsburgh press....Pittsburgh radio talk all say pass was forward lateral....but poor displaced Eloy thinks it was a legal pass. I guess the NFL and ALL the experts got this wrong.....yeahhhhh Eloy is a genius!! We found our new GM...yeahhh ELOY!!

Knows the rulebook: Game, set, match.

Eloy is down for the count.

Ok silly time is about to begin....so Im outta here. Dusty go easy on the mentally challenged!!

Eloy the pass on the stat sheet is the pass Ben threw to Emanual Sanders; the ensuing laterals and Ben's last (forward lateral)only add to the yacs. So what everyone has been telling you is that upon further review (had Pittsburg scored) is the ball would have been brought back due to an illegal forward pass (i.e. the forward lateral).

see ya bill

To be precise, the ball would have been called dead at the spot it left Roethlisberger's hand and since the clock had expired the game would have been declared over. It would not have been "brought back" anywhere.

I think pretty much the entire globe aside from Eloy recognizes this.

Here's some more breaking news Eloy: The sun will rise in the East tomorrow.

eloy knows this, hes just pushing buttons

So, who's the "child" here again?

Get your eyes fixed, dude.

Posted by: Knows The Rulebook | December 09, 2013 at 06:21 PM

Let me guess....the child here is the blogger with the silly anonymous name because he has no balls to use his real name = Child.

I know all touchdowns are reviewed, and I know a play is dead and a 5 yard penalty is assessed for forward laterals. but since the refs didn't call it would the review catch it?? is it a written rule that the play comes back? I can't seem to Google the rule?

it would of been reviewed

Posted by: Knows The Rulebook | December 09, 2013 at 06:21 PM

...the child here is the blogger with the silly anonymous name because he has no balls to use his real name = Child.

Posted by: Eloy | December 09, 2013 at 06:33 PM

I remember the Lions had a situation where they wanted to challenge a forward lateral and the ref said it was not reviewable, and if Swartz threw the challenge flag it would be a 14 yard penalty. the NFL said the ref was wrong and the play could be reviewed. So I guess the booth would review it and overturn the almost touchdown if they don't say inconclusive...

14 yard penalty, thats a new one

It looked like a forward pass, but I am glad it did not come down to that the replay both probably would have sided with the Steelers

replay both is what I meant

Don't really check in this time of day but just saw the madden commercial with the next crop of star qbs and the three profiled were tannehill, Russell Wilson, and Andrew luck. Yeah I was thinking the same thing ... why is Andrew luck in there with those two studs ...

Big wins by the fins and good performances from Tannehill keep the trolls FIRE ROSS and KRIS hiding in embarrassment.

Lets relax with charles clay. It,s a nice story , but clay is a h-back. We need a tight end who can stretch the seam. The dolphins first round pick needs to be JACE Amaro.

15 sorry

Who cares Brown stepped out of bounds, that GOD, but that lateral around crap should have never got that far!!! Therefore basic tackling skills need to be implimented & teach the D line to attack Brady & get him down at all costs & he'll fold like a taco!!! Still fire Ireland, GO FINS!!!

thill the man

I know you have to be kidding now MarK. Guess what? Luck just clenched a playoff berth. Considering that's your barometer for success given your past criticism for even the mighty Marino it would appear that Luck is more of a stud. Either way, there's likely not a GM alive that wouldn't take Luck over RT.


I know all touchdowns are reviewed, and I know a play is dead and a 5 yard penalty is assessed for forward laterals. but since the refs didn't call it would the review catch it?? is it a written rule that the play comes back? I can't seem to Google the rule?

Posted by: wallyfin | December 09, 2013 at 06:36 PM
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Rule #8 Sec.1 Just Google NFL forward pass rules.
In a nutshell, no forward pass once you cross the line of scrimage. What isn't clear (to me) what happens if there's no call.
BTW, the term 'lateral' or 'forward lateral' is not used...just forward or backward pass

All tds are reviewed, it would of come back

Shucks. I couldn't find Michael Scott Whitney. Perhaps he got too much flak and deactivated his account? How's that for sweet retribution?

Knows The Rulebook went scurrying away.

Wrong.

That was too easy LOL.

And what, exactly, would I have been "scurrying away" from?

Being 100% correct about the lateral/forward pass on that last play that only 'Eloy' and one or two others as dimwitted as him don't seem to recognize?

Hey, have fun being a nitwit.

What a sucker!LOL. Like fishing in a fishbowl.

You are too dumb to be allowed to vote LOL.

All tds are reviewed, it would of come back

Posted by: dusty bottoms | December 09, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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Correct, sir.

You realize the deal with a couple of these clueless clowns, right? They spent hours yesterday drunkenly braying about how the Dolphins only won because the Steeler player stepped out of bounds and now can't admit that nothing about that play after Roethlisberger's forward lateral would have counted after review. Game over right then.

Some of us knew it right away. Others not until seeing the full replay later.

And then there's the staggeringly dumb who STILL don't get it.

And then there's the staggeringly dumb who STILL don't get it.

Posted by: Knows The Rulebook | December 09, 2013 at 07:53 PM

That is a staggeringly smart name you have!


All tds are reviewed, it would of come back

Posted by: dusty bottoms | December 09, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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Thats' true but I don't trust the refs (on the field or in a booth) when the Dolphins play anybody particularly media darlings like Pitt. Ask yourself how many times refs have stiffed us.

Mark Toronto,

McKinnie and the Fins voided the last year of his contract. Was reported two weeks ago.

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