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Ben McAdoo a possibility for OC but not yet

The moment news of Mike Sherman's firing as Dolphins offensive coordinator became public, speculation about his successor started. The name most tied to the vacancy is that of Ben McAdoo, the Green Bay Packers quarterback coach.

And while it makes sense based on ties you'll soon understand, one cannot accuse the Dolphins of acting fast if they have interest. The Dolphins as of this writing had not sought permission to interview McAdoo.

Therefore there is no interview scheduled with McAdoo.

The Cleveland Browns, meanwhile, have received permission to interview McAdoo for their open head coach job, according to the NFL Network and Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. That will happen Wednesday.

(Yes, McAdoo is out of contract after this season. But as contracts don't expire until March, teams have to get permission to interview McAdoo anyway).

So why has McAdoo's name come up?

Well, he worked with Joe Philbin in Green Bay. He was the tight ends coach while Philbin was on that staff as the offensive coordinator. When Philbin came to the Dolphins to turn the Dolphins into a playoff team around, McAdoo became the quarterback coach for the Packers.

Interestingly, McAdoo, 36, has never been an offensive coordinator. He's never called plays.

So why is he so hot?

He's been compared to Kansas City coach Andy Reid, who rose from Green Bay tight ends coach, to quarterback coach to head coach in Philadelphia.

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Mark,
2 watts is very wise and a lot smarter than you. Wise men listen more than speak,wise men are not long winded blow hards.

lol

I DEMAND THAT THE MIAMI DOLPHINS HIRE AN EXPERIENCED OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR FROM ANOTHER TEAM EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT!!!

OK, marco and the troll brigade want to discuss yards per attempt which is one of Tannehill's poorer statistical rankings at 6.7 yards per attempt. league average is 7.2.

If we break this down by receiver, look at it as follows,

hartline 1016 yards on 134 attempts 7.6 yards per attempt - above average - actually excellent

Charles Clay 759 yards on 103 attempts 7.4 yards per attempt - above average

Rishard Matthews 448 yards on 64 attempts 7 yards per attempt - slightly below average but considering he was supposed to be your 5th wr - you can live with that

Brandon Gibson 326 yards on 44 attempts - 7.4 yards per attempt - above average

Now, we get to Mike Wallace 930 yards on 142 attempts (lead team) - 6.5 yards per attempt - not good at all.

So the chemistry between Wallace and Tannehill was the primary reason why his year was so inefficient.

Wallace is useful guy but for two years running now as I said - he's been very inefficient.

Tannehill was very good with every other WR/TE but this guy. So either they need to shore things up or move on from making Wallace a primary target in order for the passing game to be efficient.

Posted by: Drafting players is a subjective endeavor |

January 07, 2014 at 02:34 PM


True and false. Yes, every gm misses. This is not Ireland's dagger.

Ireland's dagger is that he CONSISTENTLY misses in the TOP 3 ROUNDS. Eventually, no FRANCHISE can survive this. This does not come down to every gm misses. This comes down to it's the man consistently making these UPPER ROUND picks.

Finding acorns in late rds does not constitute as a great pick unless they become pro bowl quality players. Not make great plays few and far inbetween.


So, McAdoo has never been a OC which means of course he's never called plays. If they do hire him, who's gonna call plays? Philbin doesn't know how, McAdoo doesn't know how.

How the hell is that gonna work?

How come no one on the Dolphins noticed Tannehill's lack of accuracy BEFORE the draft?

Posted by: MiramarDave | January 07, 2014 at 01:49 PM

"How come" you can't speak English? How come? Moron,lmao

MR. ROSS, YOU MUST LISTEN TO YOUR KNOWLEGEABLE FAN BASE AND HIE AN EXPERIENCED OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR FROM ANOTHER TEAM EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT ALLOWED BY NFL RULES AND YOU WOULD FACE TAMPERING CHARGES AND THE LOSS OF DRAFT PICKS IF YOU DID IT!!

WE KNOW BETTER THAN THOSE SILLY "FACTS" AND "RULES!"

I love all my fans ....

cocoa u know how to call plays right, anyone can. its calling the right ones

Mark,
let's talk 4th TD production in 2013. Isn't that when close games are won and lost? Stats are for losers. sell us on TD production.

And furthermore, you know what other young Qb finished with a 6.7 ypa this year? Andrew Luck - guess that's reason for termination too??

Posted by: Marco | January 07, 2014 at 02:11 PM

Do you ever tire of being a complete imbecile? Everything you wrote in that post is complete nonsense coming from someone who knows very little about the game of football. But please continue dissecting players weaknesses. I'm sure your decades of working in an office has primed you to be an expert in football analysis.

The Dolphins won as many close games as they lost. What's your point?

Mark, how many good QB's go 8 games in a row without a TD pass?? Do you hear that sound??

Thill goes 8 games without TD pass in 4th Quarter

And if we aren't going to judge by stats and empirical evidence, i guess we should just depend on your expert opinion and years of scouting professional football players and earning NFL paychecks instead?

Do not underestimate Wallace's skill set if better used by any new OC. It is not just about long fly patterns. Most WRs in the NFL with just decent speed, as well as some TEs can get open on deep patterns. The key here is patterns and how they are utilized to increase the skills of your receiving corps. In Wallace's case the short outs and button hooks were a waste of time. His speed on a short crossing pattern coming out of motion would be difficult for any corner to cover and put the ball in Wallace's hands in space. So use the draft and FA to fix the team's most glaring holes which are of course the oline, safety, fullback, LB, and TE (although I still believe Egnew if given the opportunity to play would do surprisingly well).

As dar as to who the next OC should be...who knows. I think Kyle Shanahan would do fine. He knows the modern offense, has developed two young QBs in Washington, ran the Texan offense at the height of their prowess, and managed to get nearly 2600 rushing yards from Albert Morris behind a bad offensive line. He has experience as an OC and and not a faux OC. He actually did call the plays.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | January 07, 2014 at 02:46 PM

Moving up and down the playing field a little more efficient wont necessarily result in more wins. None of the wr's you stat sheeted are physically imposing or threatning.

As I'm sure you're aware, it all comes down to winning games, not moving between the 20's slightly more efficiently. We still lack pass catching physical size at both wr and TE.

Hartline's ok, but I'm sure he doesn't have dc's up at night game planning keeping him out of the endzone. Same with Charles Clay.

Not defending his inadequacies, at least Wallace has 4-5 more td passes, if not for the numerous overthrows. Our best receiving scoring threat, we can not get him the ball.

Also, that 6.5yds per play you stat, what would it have been if Tannehill connects on 3-5 of the deep connects to Wallace? Points win games, not stats.

Posted by: dusty bottoms | January 07, 2014 at 02:53 PM

Yeah Dusty, that's the real trick

wrs are def not the problem. we have very solid wrs. need oline

again, troll of numerous sign in names, Tannehill's TD contribution was good this year. Whether in came in the first, 2nd, third, or 4th. By NFL standards, and especially for a 2nd year Qb 25 tds is a good # and operating the #9 red zone offense in the NFL with the worst o line and no running game is dam good.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | January 07, 2014 at 02:46 PM
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They just need to connect on that freakin long ball at higher percentage.

Oh and before the haters beat me to it that means twice lol.

You know are favorite guy Sherman said something interesting after a game where they did connect.
He said thank god I was scared it was going to become mental.

I think it had become mental. As a baseball fan I've seen it happen before.
There was a 2nd baseman for the Twins who could no longer make the throw to 1st base at one point.

They have an off season to work on it now. Hopefully they can get it worked out. Contrary to popular belief no one wants it more than they do.

how many TD's in the 4th quarter Mark?? did he improve that stat from last year??

Sam @ 2:59, his #s last year per attempt with big Ben , a qb he worked with for several years was still 7 yards per attempt. Sub standard. Seems to me that Wallace's career MVp has been Bruce Arians.

I haven't heard of teams holding back coaches for job promotions like GB has with McAdoo.

He was denied interviewing for the OC position in 2012 for Tampa and Miami and now again in 2014.

He must be rated high by those he's worked for.

Rick, that was Chuck Knoblauch, same thing happened to Steve Sax before him.

The debate about Tannehill goes on and won't be resolved until next year at least. He made some strides this year, but still has some issues to resolve. His pocket presence, deep ball accuracy, and turovers must improve. On the bright side, he is one tough SOB, stopped fumbling the latter half of the season, and can really zing the short and intermediate passes. As any Dolphin fan, I really want him to become the franchise QB we've been looking for since Marino. Only time will tell.

mcadoo is interviewing for the browns head coaching job

Troll, my answer is at 3:01 and that's the last you will get out of me.

anyone see Oscar?? he was suppose to meet me here


wrs are def not the problem. we have very solid wrs. need oline

Posted by: dusty bottoms | January 07, 2014 at 03:00 PM


Dusty Bottom, though a better receiving corp than 2012, be careful in allowing them totally off the hook. There's only one receiver a great scoring threat" and we can not get him the ball doing what he does best.

The rest of our receivers are only "in the field of play" receivers. They infrequently get into the endzone scoring tds. That's how you win the game.

who in their wrong mind would come to this flea circus?
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lol

Posted by: 2 watt | January 07, 2014 at 02:36 PM

You're dusty bottoms too right? Because you two write the same exact posts only you pretend to be texting or something. You wrote the same exact thing last year before they signed Wallace, Grimes, Ellerbe, Wheeler, Gibson, and Keller.

Are you ever going to stop being wrong? Why would you type so much bulls$#t when you know you are constantly wrong? Are you mentally challenged or something?

cocoajoe---the guy who insists that Iranians are Arabs.

Looking forward to more of his intellectual wizardry this evening.


I haven't heard of teams holding back coaches for job promotions like GB has with McAdoo.

He was denied interviewing for the OC position in 2012 for Tampa and Miami and now again in 2014.

He must be rated high by those he's worked for.

Posted by: Scott | January 07, 2014 at 03:03 PM

Great post. Makes one think. GB did not blink an eye in allowing us to talk to Philbin. Hmm?

ok Mark, when you get a minute, be honest with yourself when you examine those 4th quarter TD stats and realize Thill sucks. Thanks

Posted by: MassDolphan | January 07, 2014 at 03:04 PM

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I really believe he was listening to his coach as he should have been almost to the point of detrimant.

We all watched Sherman on Hardknocks. He looked like he could be a jack arse and Tanny is still young.

In Sherman's defense the tolerance for losing here was a really thin line. Not like he could just let the kid go out and wing it.

Then again if he had to do over again??

Is it wrong to hope for the death of our most hated owner?

phins78 i have nothing to do with that dude, leave me out of your convos

Troll, your stat woudl have some validity if we had a poor record in close games, we didn't, it would ahve some validity if there were a number of games when we needed the offense to score a td in crunch time and they didn't - there were as many times he did as he didn't. It would have some validity if teh Qb just didn't score to the levels of other NFL qbs - he did.

So you want to cherry pick a stat that had no great bearing on the outcome of the season, have at it.

I had to put some clothes on earlier to run some errands but now I've stripped back down and am ready to blog here stark naked again. It's so cool!

Posted by: dusty bottoms | January 07, 2014 at 03:00 PM

I agree - Phins receiving corp is actually pretty good. Hartline, Wallace, Clay, Matthews, Gibson (before he got hurt), and Miller are all pretty good recievers. True, there is no No. 1 beast but as a group they are pretty darn good. Wallace still had 900+ yards with Tannehill unable to connect with him, and really helped open up the underneath passes.

Posted by: Ship shape | January 07, 2014 at 03:17 PM

YES IT IS WRONG

Sam, now coming around to the line of thinking of needing that imposing wr/te, I agree. Also has the added benefit that we may need someone to inherit that #1 Wr slot in two years if Tannehill/Wallace can't get on the same page.

Posted by: cocoajoe | January 07, 2014 at 02:49 PM

McAdoo is being compared to a young Andy Reid as the article states. This is where coaches come from, they start as assistants, they work their way up, they gain respect for their knowledge, and then they are offered better positions.

It's amazing there are a few in here that seem to not understand this sport at all yet they come in and comment every day. AND NEVER LEARN A F#@!ING THING, that's truly the amazing part. How you could be in this blog, and reading all of the articles yet never learn about the sport you supposedly follow. It's funny because I always imagine these morons have to be from Florida. A cesspool of uneducated, unemployed, sandal wearing, red neck, no shirt, smelly arm pitted, inbred, low life's who only follow their teams if they are championship caliber. Bandwagon jerko$#s.

The things I like about THill are his intangibles:

Runs very well.
Above average passer on the run.
Very high TD percentage inside the red zone.
Has only been playing QB for around 4 years - very high upside.
Tough

Things he needs to work on this offseason:

Deep pass!
Stop using Hartline as a security blanket.
Make quicker decisions inside the pocket... needs to feel the pressure better.

I think having a new OC will quickly raise his overall development.

I guarantee if you ask head coaches around the league to rate Tannehill his rating would be very high.

We were nearly a playoff team with a shattered O-line, a horrible OC, and a defense that could not stop the run. That is where our focus needs to be. We are adequate at WR and TE. Tannehill does need to keep growing with his biggest problems being an accurate deep ball and pocket awareness.

I would focus on O-Line first. Get Albert from KC. I saw one option that looks interesting: Get Alex Mack from Cleveland for the new Center and move Pouncey to left guard. Last move down a few spots in the draft and get Zack Martin while picking up another 3rd or 4th round pick.

The new line would look like this from left to right:

Branden Albert - Mike Pouncey – Alex Mack – Draft: Zack Martin – Tyson Clabo

Then strengthen the defense against the run. Maybe move Jordan to LB instead of DE so he gets more playing time.

Will do Dusty. But you guys should hook up and talk Phins, you have the same ideas.

McAdoo is being compared to a young Andy Reid as the article states. This is where coaches come from, they start as assistants, they work their way up, they gain respect for their knowledge, and then they are offered better positions.

It's amazing there are a few in here that seem to not understand this sport at all yet they come in and comment every day. AND NEVER LEARN A F#@!ING THING, that's truly the amazing part. How you could be in this blog, and reading all of the articles yet never learn about the sport you supposedly follow. It's funny because I always imagine these morons have to be from Florida. A cesspool of uneducated, unemployed, sandal wearing, red neck, no shirt, smelly arm pitted, inbred, low life's who only follow their teams if they are championship caliber. Bandwagon jerko$#s.

Posted by: Phins78 | January 07, 2014 at 03:20 PM

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HALLELUJAH!!!

Someone here who actually GETS IT!!

And I didn't even know this stat but I looked it up, Tannehill was 18th in the NFl in 4th quarter touchdown passes and 8th overall in the 2nd half - hardly a disaster.

If I were either an up and coming or an established coach that was generating interest from around the league, I wouldn't even consider Miami. It's not the decade/decades of decay or even Ross that would bother me most. It's Ireland and Philbin. One (or both) of them is definitely a lame duck. Either Ross is going to see the light sooner than later and fire Ireland ... which means a new GM would probably replace Philbin shortly thereafter ... which means the new HC probably replaces me. OR, Ireland fires Philbin to save face and his job (atleast short term). In which case, the new HC brings in his own OC to replace me.

Philbin is going into season 3 and Ireland has been here, what, 6 years? Simply stated, job security doesn't look particularly promising for an assistant coach or coordinator. I don't take the job if I'm "popular" with interest in my from other teams.

BY the way, other NFL Qbs with the same # of 4th quarter TD passes as Tannehill,

Nick Foles
Andrew Luck


Guess these guys stink too ... you can go ahead and change your name again Troll. perhaps even use the same one you used this morning in Ireland Sucks. Thanks for coming out.

As I sit here without so much as a pair of socks or jockey briefs on, I also believe the team will need to try and upgrade at least one of those safety positions.

But as I gaze down on my private parts open to cool, fresh air I have not forgotten that fixing the OL remains the first priority.

Posted by: Phins78 | January 07, 2014 at 03:20 PM

easy killer, your taking these joke Dolphins a little too seriously. Go wack your noodle and come on back in a few, you'll be relaxed eating a ham sandwich, that's what Oscar told us to do and it works.

true mark, had some magic moments in 4th qt also

SDMike, love that o line plan - send that off to Ireland ASAP, tell him I signed off on it, haha

Seriously though, I do love it.

not whack but wack

and here is 78
another out of touch out of town homer who reads Mondays box scores on the phinz
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lol

P78, you work for teh Florida Tourism Board?

AHHAHAAAA

Speaking of Tannehill. What I see of Kaepernick is that he would be very ordinary without his running ability.

It seems like every other series he takes off at least once and it gives the defense something to think about.

That I think was my biggest beef with Sherman. I get the the strategy of not wanting to over expose Tanny and the theory that he wanted him to learn how play in the pocket but you have to play to win the game.

At least that what Herm Edwards says. I think it was Herm lol.

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