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Would Gamble, others join snakepit hijinks?

The leading contender for the Dolphins vacant general manager position?

Tom Gamble, the vice president of player personnel for the Philadelphia Eagles.

And if the Dolphins were a stable, well-led, functional franchise, I'd say they would have a great chance to get him. Gamble is eager to be contacted and would be happy to listen to the Dolphins, according to a source.

But ...

As I write in my column in today's Miami Herald the Dolphins are not exactly a model franchise. The Dolphins had issues internally part of the 2013 season, with sniping and backstabbing going on at the highest levels of the football operations.

Jeff Ireland vs. Joe Philbin.

Dawn Aponte vs. Jeff Ireland.

Aponte and Philbin forming a bond and alliance that ultimately helped bring down Miami's general manager. And whatever you think of that -- be you glad Ireland is finally gone or sad because you don't believe professionals should engage in such snakepit hijinks -- the drama matters.

Because word of the drama is already making the NFL rounds. People in franchises like the Washington Redskins, places with issues of their own, are aware of the issues the Dolphins had this year. I know this for a fact.

And the problem with that is simple: If Stephen Ross wants to hire the best and brightest individual as his next general manager, will he be able to gloss over his team's reputation to get that guy? Will he be able to provide assurances that the next GM won't be fighting an alliance of the coach and executive VP for football administration like the last GM had to?

Another thing:

The Philbin-Aponte axis is almost certainly going to work toward getting a weak GM to the Dolphins. The last thing Philbin wants is for Ross to give the next GM the power to fire him after the 2014 season is over. So Philbin wants his pal Aponte over that GM. He wants that hire to be just a talent evaluator with the title of GM but not the full weight of power that title suggests.

And again ... if Ross agrees that is the way to go, what great GM is he going to land? 

It's the Dolphins doing Dolphins things.

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Gamble has some very impressive experience and a solid looking resume. I wonder if he was the one who decided to draft Nick Foles?

He also worked at the 49ers, which has a very impressive roster.

Finally, he worked at the Colts under Bill Polian.

He's 49 - a good blend of youth and experience.

What do you people or myself know about how this business works?

Very little!!!

I personally am a fan of Miami's structure. This makes each member accountable for thier own failures.

Ireland - he didn't land enough talent on this team in his 6 year reign which seemed like a 20 year reign. He over valued the offensive line and RB this past season and that is the reason why this team missed the playoffs. If Miami has a consistent C minus Oline they make the playoffs. End of story. That blame is all on Ireland.

Philbin - We all wonder at least I do what his strength is as a Head Coach. I still don't know. But Im a firm believer in giving a Head Coach 3 years. Philbin was strapped with the worst Oline in football and it was the ultimate failure that cost this team.

Aponte - Honestly outside of contracts and keeping the cap in order which she has done clearly by being 29 M under the cap in consecutive offseasons. But she is well respected and the NFL is even rumored to have considered her for a front office positions.

Ross - He picks all his people because he pays all of them. Philbin is untouchable? Really just like Ireland was assured last month he would be brought back but then they "mutually parted" ways. Ross opens his wallet and doesn't mettle in personel decisions or get cozy with players. I think he's a good owner.

Let it play out people! Patience. Armando smh.

This was my worst fear. I foresee at least one more year down the tube ahead. Been saying all along, no GM get's it right all the time. Ireland had his rookie/growing pain mistakes but is over that. He made great FA pickups, resisted the urge to overspend, and passed on others (Orton comes to mind) when the expert fans were clamoring for it. Team has drafted young talent, Tannehill, Pouncey, Clay, Lamar Smith, Vernon, Jordan, Jones, Mathews to go along with key veterans which need to be resigned such as Starks, Soliai, Grimes and even Mckiney (cheap hometown discount as insurance for LT). We have the Cap space needed to resign all and some OL help. We are an OL and a Coaching staff away from being an elite team but I am afraid this disfunctional leadership structure will destroy what is in place and we will start from scratch again soon. Guess it's Karma, for team running off Shula and Marino before they were ready to go, both deserved better!

Now probably comes the trickiest part for Ross, the naming of the next GM, Czar or whatever you want to call it, of Football operations. The guy, or gal, has to be a serious, just and impartial Football Person and must be very tough, very tough, to work here in Miami. Now to find him/her.

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | January 08, 2014 at 07:55 AM

Yeah, Rick, I don't think we're gonna hear, "I won't come to Miami because Philbin (Aponte) is there..." that's totally absurd. Unless Ross opts for the Czar approach, a new GM will be given the power necessary to do his job without encumbrances.

"The franchise is in shambles" is BS. The organizational flow chart and subsequent job responsibilities WERE being screwed up because Ross was trying to protect Ireland's job and the franchise. The hiring of a new GM will fix all that.

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Oscar,


I agree, this Gamble guy sounds intriguing. But I have 2 questions.

1.When was the last time the Eagles were actually VERY GOOD. I see them pick up alot of their stars in free agency. Like Damico Ryans, Jason Peters, the DE from the texans. Cant remember his name off the top of my head.

2. We cant hire a GM and a CZAR, they have to be one in the same, right? Do you trust a CZAR type role with this guy?

Armando, You have absolutely NO IDEA what powers and responsibilities the new GM is going to have, and ALL of this is pure speculation. If Ross gives the new GM the full responsibility of hiring and firing then I would say this article is total crap and useless. Wait and see.

Dawn Aponte is thought of very highly in nfl circles according to all reports. I wrote about this is in another blog last week. Aponte doing well as an executive is good for the nfl. The nfl would LOVE a woman to do well in a position of power. I jokingly said that if aponte were the new gm, maybe the big wigs in NY would tell the refs to start giving the dolphins some calls on the field instead of the other way around!

Dawn aponte is not going to be the new GM. She is a brilliant salary cap mind who helped structure the team to make another size able run in FA this year. I don't know why you guys fear her! Lol.

You guys are all smoking crack if you don't think the GM position on the dolphins is worthwhile! This is an amazing opportunity that young talent would JUMP at! If I'm Steve Ross here's what I would tell any potential GM candidates: "I want you to run my team.
I have a coach whose vision I understand. See if you can work with him. If you both are not on the same page, I give you autonomy to fire him after the season and allow you to take my franchise in a direction you see fit going forward."

Sometimes people on these blogs don't give philbin enough credit. He held the ship together after a major scandal could have wrecked the season. The team improved from year 1 to year 2 under him. The players like to play for him. And I'm sick of you all saying how "depressed" he always looks. Have you all seen bill belicheck for the last 14 years on the NE sideline. Not exactly a case study in excitement there!

The new GM will be given a chance to work with philbin and if he doesn't find it suitable, he will be given control to fire him. Mark my words on that!

gamble will bring m vix with him

Barry Jackson has a good list of the probable candidates in his sports buzz including Tom Gamble.

Somehow how he managed to list them without mentioning snakepit or hyjinx.

He did credit Armando for contributing to his report though.

You are asking me questions, Rdubs, which I don't know the answers for, I am a Medical Man and not a Football Man. But I do know something about Organizations that I have gathered along the way. BP was a Czar here and Ireland the GM and I see no contradiction in that. That it didn't work out was in the end was probably Ross' fault for not realizing the power struggles within his organization. A Czar of Football operations and a GM CAN co-exist depending on said Persons.

Yikes Mando. Aponte and Philbin did not bring down form some evil alliance to bring down Ireland. Ireland brought down Ireland. That is clear to all.

It's clear that Ireland has always been a big part of the problem here when comes to stability over the last 5 years. Ireland was a sycophant, and clearly Ross responded to that kind of employee, that's why he lasted so long.

Ireland also had a history with Sporano and Parcells before the entire Harbargh backstabbing. Now it comes out that Aponte and Philbin also had issues with Ireland. We got a glimpse in Hard Knocks as to how callously Ireland handled players, and there was the whole Dez Bryant issue, the incident with Jonathan Martin's agent...Ireland was always a problem.

I believe Ireland was universally despised, but it was difficult for players or staff to speak out against him due to the power he wielded. Thank little baby Jesus he's gone.

Honest to GOD, do you people ever breath in and exhale without a bad thought crossing your minds, i listen to the Q everyday, and all you hear is Whining about Ireland, he gets kicked out and all you hear is Whining that we wont bring in the right guy.. You ask for his head, now your ready to ask for the head of whoeve they bring in.. Lots of Drama,, give them a chance to change before we star the bashing Please!!! Then when we loose to the Bills and Jets Ask for there HEAD!!!! till then Breathe!!

Ross did not become a multi billionaire by luck. He may not know much about owning a NFL franchise,but I believe he has learned a lot in the past four years and plans to finally get it right. The next GM is totally on him,let's remember,he inherited Ireland when he bought the team from Huizinga,and he needs a person with football and personnel knowledge.I'm betting he gets that person.

Posted by: Rdubs | January 08, 2014 at 08:17 AM

Sorry Rdubs, have to vociferously disagree with you here. Since 1999, the Philadelphia Eagles have the 3rd best playoff percentage (making the playoffs) in the league (67%). So every 2-out-of-3 years, they've made the Playoffs since 1999. That's a great organization there. OBVIOUSLY one stocked with talent (and must of had good coaching too). So what if they've never won a SB. Miami's made the Playoffs 27% of the time. NO CHANCE we win a SB with a percentage like that.

IF Gamble was responsible for: LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin, Zack Ertz, Nick Foles, Trent Cole... THEN he's probably the best suited person to turn around Miami's anemic offense and add talent on both sides of the ball.

I am 100% behind this pick. He'll make Ireland look like a chump in probably 1-2 Drafts. Mr. Ross, get this done. You're the only one at the top of the organization I trust. You're turning into the best owner in the league. GOOD JOB MR. ROSS!!

DC,


Ok dammit, I hate it when your right

you're

Reporter from the Palm Beach Post has listed these guys as immediate candidates for the GM job.

GB senior personnel exec Alonzo Highsmith

Tom Gamble, Philly's director of player personnel

Pittsburgh's 36-year-old VP of football administration Omar Kahn

Scott Pioli

When are they dumping Sherman's son-in-law? This guy is a joke and between he and sherman were the biggest problem.

Wow Armando you are really stupid and have little clue as to what you are talking about.

With Ireland gone we just increased the probability that big name free agents will sign with the Fins.

What Ireland did with Dez Bryant is deplorable and EVERY player in the NFL knows it. Ireland is gone and a new era is dawning in Miami.

I don't care if Ross picks Mickey Mouse for the next GM...with Ireland done our team has become a destination again.

Wait a second - the Washington Redskins Front Office is pointing fingers at the Dolphins and mocking them? I live in the DC area and I truly doubt, even as dysfunctional as the Dolphins have become, that they even approach the dysfunction that is the Daniel Snyder led Redskins circus.

Having said that what happened to the coaching organization that brought Bum Philips (Houston Oilers HC for you young-ins) to say "He can take his'n and beat your'n or your'n and beat his'n"? That's the quality Ross needs to aspire to - not the disaster we have been watching for far too long now.

Does the fact that Mr. Ross gave Ireland 6 years even when we weren't doing well make the job more attractive? If anything, Ross has proven to be patient and loyal to a fault. I know that a lot of people are saying that nobody will want to come here if they are saddled with Philbin but it's been proven that you will be given every opportunity and money to succeed.

Rdubs, you reading these other posts though? How can ANYONE be upset Ireland's gone? SIX SEASONS! FIVE CONSECUTIVE LOSING SEASONS! Best drafted players were linemen (Long, Pouncey) and the line was the WORST IN ALL DOLPHINS HISTORY THIS YEAR!!!

He's had spats with 2 different coaches, 2 different VP's, multiple players throughout the league. And people are seriously sad to see him go? Because they're chickenshyt of the unknown?

How much WORSE can you do then 5 consecutive losing seasons? I'd love to know. Ireland had his chance, no one can say he wasn't given enough time. He failed, MISERABLY. His incremental improvement over the span of half a decade and especially with $200 million of OUR BELOVED OWNER'S MONEY should be criminal.

Good riddance Jeff, don't EVER step foot in Davie again (lest you get your skull bashed in).

Just happy Ireland was fired. Anyone will be a huge improvement.

Can we really blame the Dez question on Ireland?

Your Mom works for your dad, who is a pimp. I would assume your mom is a ho. Pardon me if that seems logical. Do pimps have secretaries? Maybe she was just a ho transporter?

Parcells drafted Long and Sparano was the influence that drafted Pouncey.

Yo Jeffy,


Is your momma a hooka?

Who is laughng now? Haha

DC,


I am just glad all these firings give us something to talk about. Off season is my favorite part of the season, little stress and high hopes. Regular season, those things go out the window

I'm not quite as passionate as DC about the firing but I am glad to see him go. I could pick a few bloggers here that could do a better job than Ireland.

If Irescum had half a brain our WR's would be Dez Bryant, Brandon Marshall, and Mike Wallace.

"Gamble, who returned to the Eagles this offseason to run personnel under coach Chip Kelly and President Howie Roseman, could be had because he does not have control over personnel with the Eagles." This is from a Philly post.
This being said Gamble will not come here if he does not call the shots and have complete control even over Philbin and Aponte. There was a lot of speculation a few months ago, on this blog about Mike Mayock being our next GM. Listening to him as a color commentator and as a draft analyst makes sense. He knows the X's and O's of football and also players and their ability to play certain schemes. Might be a good consideration.

Two years ago watching HBO's Hard Knocks it was evadent that this was going to be Philbins team. Ireland was just happy he didn't go down with Sparano. Im glad he's gone but, Philbin should be gone as well. This team not only needs a talent evaluator it needs a great game day coach. Great game day coaches do not watch their team surrender 8 Sack's to a division rival & then allow 7 more sack's the next time they meet. I don't care what controversy or adversity this team went through. You have a 53 man roster, You divise blocking schemes to protect your QB even if it means camping a TE or Guard in the backfield to protect the QB.

Oscar
what is in the Cuban medical thesaraus
for some1 who has their cranium placed up inside their rectums?
there are a lot of homers on here with this condition
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lol

Dear Mr. Salguero

I think our next GM should be hungry....like a cougar.
Cougars hunt for what they want and will not be stopped till they get there virile young men.

I think Dawn Aponte is that cougar.

I don't know what her stats are but I would guess 36,24,36
Also her being a M.I.L.F....Miami's, Intelligent, lover, of football would also be of great help.

my 2 cents

Soiled :)

It sounds like Ross has created a toxic work environment. Dawn Aponte is the puppet master with Joe Philbin as her henchman. Who wouldn't want to be the next general manager!

You know why there were issues? Well because the GM was already in place and a coach was forced upon him. You know why next year wont work? Because a coach is already in place and a GM will be forced upon him. Pretty simple thing to figure out for all these super smart million and billionares. Its not rocket science.

Mando, one way for the Dolphins to get around all of this is if they think Gamble is #1, then simply make him the ultimate football power, including being Philbin's boss. And if Philbin can't make his players work, then hit the bricks too and let Gamble choose his own man. And if Aponte keeps up with these shenanigans then Gamble can fire her as well. Aponte is gifted but not magical, there are a lot of people who can do what she does. Not worth the headache.

At this point Philbin does not deserve to feel entitled to any kind of teflon treatment and be able to manouever political power plays. If I was there, if he tries, I simply fire him too on the spot.

This front office needs to fall in line. The GM works for the owner and the coach works for the GM ... period.

Anyone messing this up gets the boot.

Enough of fouling up our franchise.

This once proud franchise is now a shell of its former self. Thanks for nothing, Mr. Ross.

Welcome Carl Peterson as Football God.

Tom Gamble sounds like a Good candidate for GM. Its a move up in title and he is a good talent evaluator. A.Highsmith is another good Candidate and he would come from the Packers. What I wouldn't do is hire an Ex-Dolphin with Zero Front Office Experience.

Apparently Ireland had more Power than any of us knew.

What I believe Mr.Ross has learned is that You need a Head of Football Operations that has more power than the GM and Coach. A President.

The GM had to much Power and The Coach had to much Power.

Carl Peterson has done this before and B.Polian is senile. Else he would've been my other candidate.

S.Pioli would be a good candidate but he is related to Parcells and can't pick a coach save his life!! I would hire a consulting firm to pick a coach before I let Pioli decide.

Dawn Aponte seems to be a great numbers person, but is she really a personnel person?

Scouting talent requires one to be in the trenches of the football world, which is nearly 100% alpha males. Call it a sexist comment, but the reality is that she lacks the experience of the scouting community and inner workings of this male dominated industry.

Now lets get some talent in here I could have drafted 10 solid starters in the last 4 drafts if I was in control and all I do is read columns and watch football while these gurus draft players I've never heard of how bout a few sec players?then my next move would be to fire Mano and get a true dolphin supporter in to write columns that have some Merritt .Mado you suck

Seeing the roster Gamble put together for the 49ers and Philly, perfect player/system match for new head coaches.

On the OC, The Offensive Philosophy isn't going to change. The Play calling and game planning need to change.

We are still going to run Philbin's Offense. 4-Wide WCO Zone-Blocking with some Spread-Option sprinkled in. Hopefully more Spread-Option this season.

McAdoo seems like a Good candidate for the job.

Good Mornin Fish Fans :)

Joe Philbin has a three year contract. so the next GM only has to keep him one more year. As for that lady I hope she go's to New York.

Earlier thought sent without completing.
Would be able to get Philbin just what he needs to get to the play offs if not end of next season Philbin is gone.

it's gamble
or mark will hang himself next season
c mark,i care 'bout u'r well being
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@ 8:22 is exactly right. There has to be one alpha dog in the yard at the end of the day and hopefully it's the new GM or else we are going to end up with someone who answers to Philbin and right now i don't trust this man at all.

personally I was hoping for Ozzie newsome's right hand man of severeal years in Eric deCosta. He's young too, only 42, yet has had his hand in drafting seeveral players that led to a super bowl and a team is perenially stacked with talent ... well until the cap forces them to tear it down.

Yes, I still believe Ireland is a Good Talent Evaluator. He will find another GM job. But with that said I see and Agree with Mr. Ross. The Dolphins need a True leader of Football Operations. The Coach and GM shouldn't be the ones with final say on any decision.

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I honestly think the oc is more important than the GM next year. THe fins have enough talent to make the playoffs. They should have made it this year. Coaching was the main problem. Sure the roster wasn't perfect with that crappy oline but they had the bills and jets to make the playoffs.

They also beat every afc playoff team they played.

"Miss me yet?"
-Jeff Ireland

If Tom Gamble is the best candidate, then treat him as such. Hire him, compensate him well, and give him carte blanche.

Stop playing around. If he's not worthy of full control, then he's not the right guy.

Ross can't afford to mess this up.

rdubs, the secret of knowing how to answer a question is the issue with the Dez Bryant saga. This is not in the gym that this question was asked but in a professional environment. It should've gone like this...

Dad's profession:

Pimp

Mother's?

Worked for my dad

IN WHAT CAPACITY?

You see, you get the answer you want without insulting someone's mother. Business ethics 101.

If my memory is correct, DeCosta was signed to a very nice contract that will ensure that he stays with the Ravens for quite some time so that he will eventually replace Newsome.

But DeCosta would be a good choice otherwise.

Let's just hope the new GM is a good hire. And that he has total control over Philbin and Aponte.

Now I tell you this whoever is taking over the GM job is taking a nice job. Ton of Cap Space, All your Draft Picks, more than half the roster is in its first 5 years in the NFL. You have a Young QB with Potential , A Good Young RB, Franchise DEs, A Deep Threat,A Shutdown Corner, A Franchise Center. You have some good core pieces on this roster.

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