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NFL Network: It's possible Martin returns to Dolphins

Not long after the problems between Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin surfaced it became obvious neither player had a future with the Dolphins.

The Dolphins wanted to divest from Incognito and had no intention of bringing him back. That was reported in this space early on during the scandal.

Soon, it also became clear Martin's future could not possibly be with the Dolphins, either. Players in the locker room were divided on him only in that some didn't care if he returned while others saw him as something of a quitter or worse and wanted no part of him on the team again.

No one actively campaigned for bringing him back. No one.

And it was reported in this space that Martin indeed would not be brought back but rather he'd be either traded or perhaps released. That was confirmed by Dolphins owner Stephen Ross a couple of weeks ago when he was asked if either of the two players would play for Miami again.

"I don't believe so," he said.

But now this ...

NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport said on Wednesday night's Total Access that Martin may return to play for the Dolphins.

"As far as Jonathan Martin's future, I am told he does in fact want to play in 2014; he is excited about it and I am also told that his people have been in contact with the Dolphins on some level over the past couple weeks," RapSheet said.

"At the beginning of this, we all thought that there was no chance Jonathan Martin would return to the Dolphins because of the atmosphere. Now that the atmosphere has changed, I am told it is not outside the realm of possibility that Martin does return to the Dolphins when it's all said and done."

Pardon me while my mind explodes.

 

 

 

Composing myself ....

 

 

 

Still gathering ....

 

 

 

Alright, let's attempt to analyze this. First, with respect to Rapoport and his outstanding reporting, I don't believe Martin will ever play for the Dolphins again.

There has been a change in general manager but no change in atmosphere. Sure the next gathering of Dolphins players in a locker room will not include Incognito. Indeed, four-fifths of the offensive line might be gone next season.

But Mike Pouncey is still around. Brian Hartline is still around. Ryan Tannehill is still around. Players that were bothered, if not wholly angered by how Martin and his camp conducted his departure from the team and then slimed the team afterward are on the team. That has not changed.

Secondly, how stupid would the Dolphins have to be let Martin back in that locker room? The message they would be sending is if you are having personal troubles and you quit on us, even in the middle of a season and without any explanation to coaches or staff, we'll be fine with letting you come back when you are ready.

I am not doubting the reporting here. I am doubting the agenda of the source, however. It's simple: The Dolphins have zero leverage in trying to trade Martin. The entire NFL knows they want to do that. Ross let that slip and then tried to take it back during his press conference (Ross doing Ross) but that's not how it works. It was transparent that Miami wants to go in another direction.

So how does one rehabilitate that?

By saying, through sources or back channels, that Martin might return. By reaching out to Martin and letting him believe he has a future in Miami. By selling the idea that you, the Dolphins, may not necessarily trade this really good, really valuable left tackle after all.

There are only two small problems with this: 

It is not likely to work unless you sell it really hard -- as in having general manager Dennis Hickey actually saying on the record the Dolphins might keep Martin and then actually letting him join the team for whatever work players will gather for in the early offseason. (Yeah, that would really help team chemistry and bonding.)

Secondly, you would have to be really dumb to keep this wound open and festering rather than simply cutting out the infected area and saving the rest of your body.

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Hey daSheba,

Who was your date for the $1000 dinner? Sleaze ho' or one of odin's three legged hotties?

TN, that's the real Ritchie, man. Be careful.

Incognito is a below average offensive lineman and a bottom of the barrel human being. He's done in the NFL. A major liability for every team he's ever been on.

Whats big, green, and hairy all over?

Jonathan Martin in Jet uniform sucking on Rex Ryans hairy toes.

You won't win a SB with a team of girlie scouts. Some of you have yet to face that most NFL players are ignorant, uneducated, unscrupulous, immoral, evil thugs.

Those are who you admirer.

Drop your double standards.

Well he heard Ross wants the Gay guy!

Lots of poor people attend $1000 a plate dinners. Some of them work the front of the kitchen, while some work the back.

So, it's entirely possible for the poor to attend $1000 a plate functions.

SAM MIGHT BE EVEN MORE IMMATURE THAN DASHWAD THE DELUSIONAL LIAR.

Hell, Ritchie, we don't know anything personal about those Players and only what the Media present us with. Don't blame us Fans.

Attending the dinner means you are dressed and dining, not a low wage slave worker behind the scenes.


Jesse? As in "Jackson"? Say hello to Tito and the "Rainbow 5" for us, ok?


Had JJ drafted Randy Moss, Marino easily plays 5 more seasons. I'll bet "cash money" on that.

Posted by: SAM I AM | February 13, 2014 at 08:27 PM

I don't think so Sam, as much as I would love to believe that myself. By 96 Marino began to really breakdown. Remember it was a Monday Night Vs. Indy (JJ's 1st as Coach) were Marino throws a deep 35 Yd out to McDuffie when he just falls with the break in the ankle of the leg were he wore the orthopedic boot (the achilles leg) and he was out 4 weeks while they inserted a screw with Kosar coming in and dropping all 4 games.

In 97 it was the lower leg fracture of same leg with Craig Erickson taking over for a month and in 98 he missed time as well with the throwing shoulder and the leg. The problem was that after the achilles injury Dan compensated by throwing off his arm and shoulder with no more of his patented hard step forward into his passes. In 99 when the shoulder flared up and we went with Huard the truth is JJ was right and probably should have made th switch perminent. If you remember it was Marino through the press saying he'd play on Thanksgiving Vs. Dallas and JJ feeling the Marino (City of Miami) pressure relented!

I still remember he couldn't throw a 10 Yd out anymore. He gift wrapped one for Deion fluttering a duck in the flat that hung forever and at that point given he was one of my Hero's I wanted him to sit and the Yr. to end somewhat gracefully for him.

(I had Season tix and was there for it all his 1st start Vs. the Bills were Von Shawmann was the real reason we lost on a missed kick in Dan's 1st shootout through the entire 84 pilgrimage on down through the Bears in 85 till 87 when Robbie moved and my Dad wasn't having the price hike)

Watching him as a former shell of himself with NO PUSH on the Ball was a sad, sad sight for me and one I didn't want to watch! I knew that Thanksiving night that the magic was over and we all had to sit through more of those ducks in the flat in the Jax playoff game were he was a BIG PART of the hole 21 point hole we got into in the 1st Qrt. with a pick-6 thrown out there on a simple short out route he threw and was one of his signature throws even with tight coverage threading the needle.

NO MARINO WAS DONE IN 98 AND SHOULD HAVE LEF THEN!


Attending the dinner means you are dressed and dining, not a low wage slave worker behind the scenes.


Posted by: Duh! | February 13, 2014 at 08:45 PM

Maybe Dashi's trying to let you know that he was at least there.

Fin4L,

Duante Culpeper proved he was no more than bust after Moss left Minny. Full proof Marino could have had at least 4 to 5 more pro bowl qualit6y years had JJ drafted Moss. Cash money, baby!

Maybe dashe is trying to impress people who don't give a flying fk, in order to compensate for his obvious lack of self esteem. Must be hard I guess.

You are never 'at home' in a foreign country. Being a racially confused mulatto with no formal education has to be tough, but still maybe paradise compared to what he would have had to deal with staying in his own nation.


PULLING GUARDS CAN"T MAUL THE FK OUT OF ANYONE LIKE COGS CAN.


God are y'alll dang stupid.

Posted by: FB 101 | February 13, 2014 at 08:30 PM

No offense but Incognito was the SLOWEST PULLING GUARD in Football Barr None! I suggest you go and look as far back as his 1st Yr. in Miami were in one game Vs. the Titans (Pennington's last game) they had him pulling on run plays and he was the sole reason the play wouldn't develop. His whiff on a block late was the reason Henne got hurt late as well were he was late getting over ect...

He was tough as nails I give him that but I knew why the Rams who were about as mediocre an OL as there was in Football nearly getting Bulger killed when he was the most sacked cut him lose the moment I saw his game. I'm not being critical and I suggest you youtube or google some games between 2011 and last Yr.


Maybe dashe is trying to impress people who don't give a flying fk, in order to compensate for his obvious lack of self esteem. Must be hard I guess.

Posted by: Duh! | February 13, 2014 at 08:52 PM


This also makes me wonder why people give a flying fk about politicians and political affiliations. Gosh, are people stupid, aren't they?

What the heck does Moss have to do with Marino's achilles injury and steadily declining performance thereafter? I don't see your point. Danny was throwing like a girl every since.

Marino was a wuss QB. he played touch football. When he retired the Dolphins were able to add 2 plays to their playbook the QB sneak and the QB draw.

This also makes me wonder why people give a flying fk about politicians and political affiliations. Gosh, are people stupid, aren't they?

Posted by: SAM I AM | February 13, 2014 at 08:55 PM


See, someone get's it.

Unless you are in big business and need political pull for personal gains, supporting one of those dinners is sheer idiotic. Especially for a low wage worker.

Of course we know that story was nothing but hollow blog boasting.

Hi Dashi!!!

We know you are there LOL!

See? Nobody believes your ridiculous claims. You'll have to find another way to elevate your self-esteem.

Be humble friend, and all will be better.


Unless you are in big business and need political pull for personal gains, supporting one of those dinners is sheer idiotic. Especially for a low wage worker.

Of course we know that story was nothing but hollow blog boasting.

Posted by: Duh! | February 13, 2014 at 09:01 PM

Exactly! My father attended these functions and contributed to election campaigns to gain business contracts up for bid. Its a "who's palm are you greasing" not a what you know business world.


Fin4L,

Duante Culpeper proved he was no more than bust after Moss left Minny. Full proof Marino could have had at least 4 to 5 more pro bowl qualit6y years had JJ drafted Moss. Cash money, baby!

Posted by: SAM I AM | February 13, 2014 at 08:51 PM

Funny thing was that the team that offered Dan a contract in 2000 were the very Vikes you mention Denny Green wanted Dan to QB that team with Moss, C.Carter and the forgotten WR in that crew Jake Reed along with a very good RB named Robert Smith. That team made it to the NFC Title game with Cilpepper laying an egg in Giants Stadium sending a Giants team with no business to the dance Vs. the Ravens. I believe Marino turned it down in large part on medical advice, if not like Manning and Favre Dan would have took his shot with a SB ready team.

Mando.....
If Martin was the victim of workplace harassment, bullying or however the independent investigator may describe the situaton, then I'm sure you're aware that the Dolphins, as a business, would be wise to consider his return to work.

And tannehill, Hartline and pouncy would be wise to keep their opinions to themselves...which pouncy will have the most difficulty (Incognito hat?).

And you Mando may allow your bigoted head to freely eXplode.

This homo and ni---r PC crap is a joke. This crap is used by these people to get attention and to create a market to the public, but if someone not associated with the genre says anything not PC then they are burned at the proverbial social stake.

To enforce this opinion, in the department I work, I am the only Caucasian. I walk in on the others listening to their music and the rapper repeatedly uses the n word. Not just here and there, but ten times in ten seconds then and again. The listeners to this obtrusive sound are to the point of rejoicing.

I see the same thing with a transsexual that tries to promote a conversation with others that it seems to me, he/she seems to try to bait someone into making a derogatory statement about how weird he/ she/ it is.

In the world we live in today; the n word would die if the ens would let it. But there would be no money and cool in that.

The homo thing is just sick. Hopefully someday there will be treatment for this illness.

Coltrane,

The real 'Trane was a man of extreme conviction, high standard, superior art, and pure dedication. You do not do his name justice.

Trane...you are not even Wayne Shorter. Nothing personal. Maybe Kenny G?

Maybe the FINS can draft that gay player that Stephen Ross loves so much, and Martin and Sam can share a room. That would be so nice. It is the kind of thing that Stephen Ross cares about. Maybe he can sell part of the team to Ellen Degeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, and Tom Cruise.


This homo and ni---r PC crap is a joke. This crap is used by these people to get attention and to create a market to the public,

homo thing is just sick. Hopefully someday there will be treatment for this illness.

Posted by: Coltrane | February 13, 2014 at 09:21 PM

Comments like this and you have nerve to call others "piece of crap"? Pot, meat kettle.

"Hopefully someday there will be treatment for your illness too".


I can see this blog is going to be LAME until September.

F4L,

Great point on JJ.

He would've drove Martin to the ground. He would've broke him in his first season.

I also doubt JJ would've drafted Martin. Martin wasn't a JJ type of player. A Real Football Player.

hey que-rs SUP

Martin was projected to go in the first round by professional scouts who study film and players 60 hours a week. Well, looks like they were wrong about his abilities.

Now if the pro's that dedicate their lives to this are wrong, imagine how wrong all of you know nothing you tube experts are?

I have made an argument for my point of view. Can you make one for yours.

I have made an argument for my point of view. Can you make one for yours.

Posted by: Coltrane | February 13, 2014 at 09:55 PM

You didn't make an argument. You farted in public. Big difference.

I don't need to explain myself to a poor devil like yourself who is constantly worried about the next mans life. There is a reason why I let you believe what your own imagination tells you. You are just to ignorant to comprehend it.

You need to spend money to make money. Govt contracts don't just hand out themselves.

Dashi is a democrat. Fundraiser was hosted by J.Bush. Doubt I went there to talk politics.

$1000 bucks isn't the most I have spent on a Dinner. It is the most I have spent on a plate. I tell you the most I have spent on a dinner and you would break the blog with your nonsense and your obsession of Dashi.

Funny thing is I probably have employees that make more than you.

Dashi has no college degree and no car (by his own admission) yet now suddenly he has high salaried employees and spends thousands on dinners.


Never thought I'd think it, but even Odin's fictions hotties are more believable than Dashes ever escalating social status!

I bet his Coltranes farts don't make a sound

F4L,

Agreed. Marino to the Vikings would've broke many records. Another reason was that Marino was one of the last franchise QBs to spend his whole career with the same team. That use to mean something back then.

To me the Dream Scenario that could've happened was B.Sanders to Miami to pair him up with Marino. That would've been the greatest Offense ever. Marino didn't need WRs to pass the ball, and Barry didn't need an O-line to run the ball. They would've set all types of records together.

Fictitious Wonders of the World

Noah's Ark
The Red Sea parting
Virgin Mary (Huh?)
Eve created from Adam's rib because he bit an apple (double Huh WTF?)
Impoverished Island Boy Dashi attending thousand dollar political dinners. LOL!!

You HAVE TO ADMIT that is FUNNY AS SHEET!

Wow. Talk about DELUSIONAL.

Dashi by his own admission has said he drives a Cadillac. Yet, your imagination tells you otherwise. You have just repeated the same thing over and over. So it is easier to let you believe your own ignorance, than to constantly have to correct you.

Dashi has a degree. But you don't need a degree to own a business. But it helps having an administration degree.

Dashi cashed in his 401k($80k) four years ago and opened his own business. I let you believe that Dashi is a janitor so your unemployed ass doesn't look thirsty here asking me for a job. And also the same thing as the car. I don't like to repeat myself so I let you imagine whatever you want.

no but Marino might of needed a defense. There's been talk defenses actually help when it comes to winning.

If you want to feel happy by thinking you are smarter than me because you are about 40 years older than me, OK. Live it up.

Just know that I am better at life than you. Since I am only 30 and own my own business, while you have worked for someone else your whole life.

Again, Dashi doesn't think he is superior to anyone here. Dashi is just Superior to you.

BTW,

Marino had a young defense at the end. Remember, ZT, JT, Bowens, Gardner, Surtain, Madison and B.Marion were on the team when Marino retired.

Copy and paste it, read it 1000 times. Cause that is the last time, I will explain myself to you.

I know in about 2 days you will forget tonight. (Might be all that Meth you smoke.) But again, This is the last time I respond to your fallacy about me.

Now riddle me this batman.

What do you do for a living?

How Old are You?

Why are you so scared to answer these 2 simple questions?

Posted by: Yep | February 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM

I sniff my shorts, not because I'm seeing if they're clean, I sniff my shorts because lucifer likes me sniffing my own balls

If you want to feel happy by thinking you are smarter than me because you are about 40 years older than me, OK. Live it up.

Just know that I am better at life than you. Since I am only 30 and own my own business, while you have worked for someone else your whole life.

Again, Dashi doesn't think he is superior to anyone here. Dashi is just Superior to you.

Posted by: Dashi | February 13, 2014 at 10:26 P

I am wondering if you are talking to me.


I say bring back Martin and McKinnie. They are both good players. I would let Matin play the right tackle again and Mckinnie the left side. Martin can be the backup to the left tackle position, should Mckinnie get hurt. Folks, you may not believe what i am about to say; but I am going to say it anyway. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR PRESENT OFFENSIVE LINE. When Matt Moore or Pat Devlin came into the game; the offensive line held without issue EVERYTIME! (Check the preseason and regular season games) This fact will help discerning individuals to see clearly where the problem lies! IT IS TANNEHILL, PEOPLE. His awkward play calling among other issues is retarding the entire offense. I believe that we have invested enough time into this Tannehill project. When all is said and done, we all will see that Tannehill is a lesser clone of Chad Henne. I say lesser, because Chad Henne can throw the deep pass. Tannehill is tough player but he is a backup at best. He will not play any better next season than he did the past season. Everyone thought that Henne would make the next step in his 3rd season. I knew that he would not and neither will Tannehill. However, I am fair. There needs to be a real qb competition. If one is held and enforced; Pat Devlin will likely win, with Matt Moore being the backup. We have sacrificed two seasons to the Tannehill project. It is time to move on. If Philbin continues to try to force the qb circle into a qb square with the qb situation, becuase Tannehill was a 1st round draft pick, then he deserves what he is going to get!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bond, david bond | February 13, 2014 at 01:33 PM


Absplutely right. No one complained about the OL when Moore was starting.

Yes Dashi,
your right, Marino was washed up by then though

Shula73: Just curious, but just what do you see in a backup quality (yeah, he is not, was not, nor ever will be, a NFL starter) right tackle, who was the #1 worst lockerroom cancer of all-time in Miami , that makes you tout keeping him afound? Are you fu.king kidding me?! I just pray to fu.king god almighty Hickey has zero of your inexplicable reasoning in that brain of his! Really, everyone on this blog, just be thankful that Ross coesn't read this sh.t, or he may start getting ideas!

Dashi, stillhardcore doesn't like it when his fellow bloggers talk sh.ite! Don't make stillhardcore start to give many reasons why "real" successes don't spout about how much money their "success" costs them. Stillhardcore really not like to talk in the 3rd person, but that all Dashi understand.

@stillhardcoredolphinsfan,

Incognito was the cancer. Thats why he's been kicked off of EVERY TEAM HE'S EVER BEEN ON!!

Coltrane,

You haven't been trolling Dashi all night. The person who I am talking to knows who he is. It is the guy that has been crying Dashi! Dashi! Dashi! All night.

I actually agree with your point of view about Home-o's and them. You can add vegetarians and most soccer fans to that list.

If offended anyone other than the person who my message was directed to, Dashi sincerely apologizes. It is just buddy uses about 1001 aliases. So it is easier to not label my post to the most ignorant blogger here who leads a miserable existence.

When I am talking to regular posters as yourself Coltrane, I will label my post with the person to which I am directing my post to.

Mike,
Yeah, you are right. Let's kick the mean, fighting SOB outand bring the whining, gnawing, teething, acidi , complaining, running home to mommy (notice I didn't say girlftiend), cacer, festering sore back yo yhe team. Will be an excellent ecample and moral-building lesson for yhese young guys. I totally agree. While you ard at it, now would be a goid time yo apply for an asst. coach position with thd Dolphins. They can use one more good man just like you. What a "team" concept you can build and mold with quality individuals like Martin to work with!

Copy and paste it, read it 1000 times. Cause that is the last time, I will explain myself to you.


Posted by: Dashi | February 13, 2014 at 10:33 PM

You've said that what, 1001 times now? LOL. You are so gullible.

Not that I or anyone else believes you own a Cadillac, but they are for xenophobic black people. They are gas hogs. Cush ride but not a performance ride. You'd be far better off with a BMW or a Mercedes or Lexus. I drive a 2012 335i and just like they advertise, it's the ultimate driving machine.

Do you have a computer? LOL. Do you see the screen? LOL. Well then you can thank me. I used to work in graphics chip design, now I just write the software drivers that tie the hardware to the software. I'm a consultant, independent. I have too much work. I am not stinking rich, but I do very well and will retire early.

You I'm guessing are a an unskilled low wage worker. You write like it and act like it. Don't shoot the messenger LOL


Still hard core,

I don't flaunt my money on no one. Reason the troll believes Dashi is an unemployed, no car having, High School Dropout.

I am just tired of him repeating the same nonsense every day for the past 2 years.

You can see why my frustration with his ignorance some times boils over.

And the 3rd person schtick. I have explained that already.

I will explain it to you one time. Hopefully you will remember.

Dashi does the third person schtick cause I know it pisses the resident troll off.

I know you have to remember some Home-O that use to come on here and troll dolphin fans with his third person schtick.

Well, Dashi killed Home. And as a way to remind him, I use the 3rd person schtick to get him mad whenever I want.

Again, I have even explained this many times.

Since, this is the first time you asked me, Hardcorefinfan, I will answer your question. Now, if you repeat the same question again tomorrow like someone here loves to do. Don't expect me to repeat myself.

In no way am I trying to be offensive with that comment. Just being direct with my words.

Please.. The bulling Martin would receive from the fans would be felt by Martins offspring.

Last year at this time Dashi had no car and no formal education.

Now? He is driving a Cadillac and attending $1000 political dinners. lol

Can you make this stuff up?

Well, Angelina Jole and Tiger's ex wife are now waiting for me in my bed, so I gotta run.

Happy blogging.

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