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Too much? Will Joe Philbin come clean and answer questions?

When the Dolphins held their press conference to introduce Dennis Hickey as their new general manager, everyone in the organization who is anyone attended. And that means coach Joe Philbin, who was part of the interview process for GM, was there.

But as soon as the floor was opened for questions, Philbin left.

He obviously didn't want to answer questions about the interview process for a new GM. He didn't want to talk about Hickey. He didn't want to answer this question: "What responsibility do you believe you have for your relationship with former general manager Jeff Ireland deteriorating into dysfunction?"

I relate Philbin making himself scarce for the last of the Dolphins opportunities to speak with the press, and by extension you the fans, to get to this:

Philbin is good at not explaining what it is that troubles the Dolphins. He declined to take questions at the presser by simply fleeing. He often declined to explain what was wrong with his team in 2013, instead contending the club was "close." He declined to discuss the NFL scandal as it was happening by saying he could not talk about it because there was an ongoing report underway.

When Ted Wells asked Philbin questions, the coach made it quite clear he knew nothing that was going on. That was plausible to Wells.

That is unacceptable to me.

I don't expect Philbin to know every detail about every player on his roster. I don't expect Philbin to be aware of the interpersonal relationship between players away from the Dolphins facility. But a coach is paid to have the pulse of his locker room. Philbin particularly made a point of often telling us how wonderful the locker room culture in Miami was.

And yet, as Richie Incognito and his group harassed Jonathan Martin, often within that very locker room Philbin often vouched for, the leader of the football side of the Dolphins organization was completely ignorant to what was happening.

Stuff was happening at practice and Philbin didn't see it.

Assistant coaches were hearing and seeing and doing things and Philbin didn't know. And when he asked, they apparently lied to him.

Philbin asked players to "respect each other," according to the Wells report. And those players Philbin is paid to lead ignored the coach's wishes.

I don't know what's worse, the ignorance of the problem or being ignored by the players Philbin asked treat each other with respect before things get out of hand.

Either way, Philbin shows an obvious lack of leadership.

Will that get the coach in trouble? I doubt it. Owner Stephen Ross apparently doesn't see any problem in Philbin's lack of leadership.

I do. And I predict we haven't seen the last of it.

The Dolphins -- no, Philbin -- should have fired offensive line coach Jim Turner on Friday in the wake of that report. Didn't happen. The NFL might snatch the control from Philbin's soft grip and suspend Turner instead.

And when all this is over, will Philbin answer for any of this, the most embarrassing chapter in Dolphins history? I predict he will not. He declined to take questions about the NFL scandal when it was ongoing.

I doubt he ever calls a press conference and answers questions about the issue following the NFL's resolution of the matter. I doubt he answers why he didn't ask Martin why he walked away from the team? Why he never had an in-depth discussion with Martin about his May 2013 contemplation of suicide anytime after May 2013? Why he allowed Incognito to be a team leader when so many within the organization saw the guard is a divisive guy?

And if he doesn't give us some answers it'll be further proof -- up there with the losing record and two-game collapse at the end of 2013 and the dysfunction with Ireland -- that the Dolphins job may be too big for Joe Philbin.

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I've never seen a RB go down as easily as Miller. If you can touch him, you can tackle him.

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Oscar,

I missed Pryor but he's a late 1st early 2nd rounder and is not worth the 19th pick. He'll be gone by 50.

Williams didn't have a catch but had over 2100 yards behind a suspect Oline. He has some injury issues with his shoulder and that's why he gets pushed down to the 4th.

Oscar,

"I wouldn't mind having Kelvin B at #19 overall although I think there are more BPA at that slot."

Who else do you like at 19?

I've never seen a RB go down as easily as Miller. If you can touch him, you can tackle him.

Posted by: Miso | February 16, 2014 at 07:37 PM

True Miller is a smaller Sammie Smith type.

Dashi,

If Ebron runs that 4.45 I doubt he makes it to 19.

Dashi,

I only came up with that trade after the report. I like Pouncey and don't feel he deserves a spanking from the commish but I have a feeling he'll get one. Either in the form of a fine or a suspension. I also have a feeling Ross will want to start fresh if possible on the oline and get rid of everyone involved in one way or another.

Eric Ebron(I doubt he gets to us), Calvin Pryor, Marqis Lee(I also doubt he gets to us, a bigger Tavon Austin), Kelvin Benjamin. We will be able to see a bit better after the Combine.

Ross ? What does he know about an o-line, ha ha !!!

The persistent insistence denounces him.

Oscar,

I agree. You can probably find a better BPA. Preferably a Defensive Leader. A MLB or a FS. But none of the LBs pop out to me. And the one that I like can probably be had in the 3rd.

My Dream Draft Scenario

1-K.Benjamin WR
2- S.Henderson RT
3- C.Jones MLB
4- A.Williams RB
5- L.Thomas QB
6- Santos K
7- R.Rodgers TE

So the two of you are imitating Dashi. Too Funny.

Oscar,

"I wouldn't mind having Kelvin B at #19 overall although I think there are more BPA at that slot."

Who else do you like at 19?

CJ Mosley is scheduled to go in the 1st Rd. MLB from Alabama.

What do you mean you missed Calvin Pryor? Look him up on you tube.

Texas,

Nah, I like it. Everyone is saying Cut Pouncey, Trade Pouncey. You actually gave a logical scenario in which to get rid of Pouncey. I almost feel like going back on what I just said about pouncey being on the team. Pouncey won't get cut, but he is tradeable in the right scenario.

You don't look like the Dashi Dashi Clowns. Who just say Fire Ross, Fire Philbin. OK, who will buy the team from Ross? Beckham? Child please.

dashi this franchise and team are horrible. zero chance they make playoffs and id get rid of pouncey instead of waiting out the 4 game suspension

I like CJ Mosley as well but when think about our offense we were very low in scoring and have been for a while. Plus I have a feeling the Dolphins brass are quite fond of our current LB core. I would not object to getting him at 19 though.

Now that you mention Texas, Dallas Buyers Club is a movie from this year that I enjoyed, even if many times I'm not politically correct. Might be in for some of my awards especially for acting.

Oscar, I mean I missed adding the reason I don't have him in the last area of all that I wrote. He's a big hitter that has good instincts but I don't see him worthy of a 19 and gone before 50. His speed and lack of fluidity is why I feel he's not worthy at 19. A BIG hitter though.

Who knows what will fall to us at #19 with all those goodie QBs and LTs up front?

well we need a lt

Dashi is clearly irritated. Oscar I can't say I'm sorry enough, please, please forgive me.

Only one hour on your couch and I'm sure I'll be back to my normal self again.

Delusional, homer, believing in Jeff Ireland, Lamar Miller, Ellerbe, Wheeler and Tannebust.

I promise you can give me a reach around.

He's a SS, pal.

wtf u talking about. if lts going early that isnt good cause we need one badly

The Well's report put Philbin in dreadful position as a coach, much less as a leader of a Football team. Philbin is too nice of a person to deal with these guys, it's too late to be a hard ass coach

Oscar,

Does that make him worthy of being picked at 19? Will he be there at 50?

Sort of like that rookie S from NO but faster.

Oscar,

Are you my pal Mr. Scholarship Winner ?

I can assure you he won't be there at 25. Just like Tannehill wasn't going to be there at #10.

Dashi

What was the name of that gay hotel you recommended in Miami?

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(1) I disagree with Armando's Philbin bashing. Much of what happened was outside of the locker room after hours at clubs and on their phones. How can he be held responsible for that? Read the report. (2) I find it hard to believe when the talking heads on TV say they never experienced this type of behavior in their locker rooms. This is a typical room full of testosterone overloaded jocks. (3) The media, including Armando, have blown this WAY out of proportion...they all think we love "dirty laundry" (4) Get rid of Jim Turner, Incognito and Martin, move on with Hickey and Philbin and see what happens. Give them a fricking chance to work together Armando. I agree totally with Ross that you can't build anything meaningful and cohesive by cleaning house every year or two. Everyone is hungry for immediate results and trashes Ross, but he didn't build his empire and earn millions by being an idiot. After a bunch of close games lost this year, the biggest reason the Fins didn't make the playoffs...offensive line.

To me these stats below scream score more points, win more games.

Offense stats
Points per game 19.8 (26th)
YDS per game 312.9 (27th)
PASS YDS per game 222.9 (20th)
RUSH YDS per game 90.0 (26th)

Defense stats
Points per game 20.9 (8th)
YDS per game 359.4 (21st)
PASS YDS per game 234.5 (16th)
RUSH YDS per game 124.9 (24th)

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To be fair, Philbin shouldn't been expected to know what his players are doing when they leave the facility. He's a coach, not a babysitter. But a majority of what was happening was happening in the Dolphins' locker room, showers, practice field and cafeteria.

Under what is supposed to be Philbin's watch.

Oh, Philbin did the necessary legal things to protect himself and the team. At the beginning of 2013, he handed out a workplace-conduct packet and told his players to respect each other.

But Philbin never did the things many great football coaches can do:

He never won the trust of his players and others in the organization because Martin and the other players and trainers and staffers who were harassed were more afraid of breaking trust with Incognito and his bunch than with Philbin.

Philbin didn't even have the full trust of his own assistant. After Martin left the team, Philbin asked Turner if reports of harassment of players were accurate. Turner assured his boss the reports were unfounded.

Philbin told Wells that he advised Turner that such conduct "better not be happening."

And yet when it came to light that such things were indeed happening right under Philbin's nose and after the Dolphins suspended Incognito, the coach did not make Turner accountable.

Indeed, last November, three weeks after Incognito was suspended, Philbin offered an endorsement of Turner days after the San Diego victory.

"I think he did a great job," Philbin said. "It's evidence in the play of our guys the other day. We had a lot of moving parts, and we've had some moving parts throughout the course of the season. I think his players believe in him. I think he works very hard every single day, and he's done a good job."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/16/3940232/armando-salguero-wells-report.html#storylink=cpy

Awesome article Mando.

- Oscar, you sure know how to pinch those guys there. - Sure, Paul, I know them fully well.


Albert also gets to leave the pressure of playing for a playoff team and join a club that hasn't won a playoff game since 2003.


Posted by: Marco | February 16, 2014 at 07:05 PM


That playoff team isn't re-signing him....

Posted by: wallyfin | February 16, 2014 at 07:09 PM

Because they drafted Fisher as the first overall pick to play LT. Albert went to the Probowl and played great all year.

don't tell me you want to let Hickey as a rookie GM draft a LT at 19 to fix our o-line.

Posted by: Marco | February 16, 2014 at 07:26 PM


wrong again Marco I always said sign Albert, draft Martin to play RT or OG. pay attention...

I disagree Oscar, Pryor is no Kenny Vaccaro from Texas. I would take Vaccaro at 19 but not Pryor.

Whatever Philbin did or did not know, this entire scenario shows a jaw-dropping lack of leadership. It shows a lack of leadership from the coaching staff, and it shows a lack of leadership within the players themselves. I understand the idea that a coach will remain outside the loop on certain things, and let players police themselves. The problem is that this involved the exact of players self-policing.

Jaw dropping lack of leadership, we all saw that jaw hang open, lost, clueless, balless, but still Ross finds a way to show Joe his undying love.

Philbin is a jack cheese sandwich on white bread. He couldn't motivate a Columbian stripper to undo a button on her shirt.

I like CJ Mosley. But the last couple Alabama MLBs haven't really panned out, and they were rated higher. He didn't really jump out at me on any of the Alabama games I watched. He supposedly has a high football IQ and we know that he has been well coached. I have to see how he does at the combine.

C.Jones is a better athlete though. And Played in a 4-3 that ran a lot of Cover 2.

itchy balls,

There is a big difference between a a 315lb NFL OL picking on a 160 lbs civilian assistant trainer than him picking on a fellow 300lb NFL OL. You idiot- do you now what Civilian means? IT means not on the football team. Duh! Guess you forgot what vocabulary words or words with more than 4 letters in them mean.

Kelvin Benjamin bandwagon here. Speed and size opposite Wallace. The middle would be wide open all day long for Clay or Simms or a draft pick or FA to exploit.

ok, Texas, I only said resembling Kenny. Vaccaro was my pick in the 2nd Rd for us last year. Jonathan Cooper was my first.

Guys do the math.

We need 5 lineman and 2 RB and extra CB and FS.

FA is not going to give us much help for the oline. 2014 is already a wash. We keep rebuilding while other teams rebuild.

Ireland failed.

I know too much money is invested in the WR core but Benjamin is very intriguing. Ebron will be gone by #19. Zach Martin might be gone by #19.

The fact players were coming out saying Philbin is uninspiring and boring and they were not learning anything tells you all you need to know. We almost made the playoffs because this team has talent, not because Philbin is a good coach. They actually won in spite of Philbin.

Frank WR is the least of our needs. Gibson will be back. Keller who knows. We need a whole new line! No receiver is getting open if Tannehill is getting sacked all day long again! We also don't have one single threat at RB!

True, Bobby, I remember, that's what they said.

The whole offense was against Sherman. Yet Philbin wanted to keep him. Philbin is not a leader. He is a buddy boy network guy.

If we know that Philbin sukkks big dikkkk as a HC wouldn't Ross know it also? Of course. Keeping Philbin here is some kind of ploy by him.

wrong again Marco I always said sign Albert, draft Martin to play RT or OG. pay attention...

Posted by: wallyfin | February 16, 2014 at 08:21 PM

Martin to play OG, what are you smoking ?

No one is saying, Draft a WR in the first. We are only saying that if K.Benjamin is available. You pick him. THE FINS HAVE ZERO BIG TARGETS!!!

THE FASTEST PASS TO RELEASE IS AN ENDZONE FADE!! ONE STEP, THROW IT UP!!

WE CAN'T THROW A FADE BECAUSE WE HAVE ZERO BIG TARGETS!!

Real simple, really.

Philbin is from Ma. and Ross home office is in NY, of course this is a ploy Oscar. haha

The head coach should not have to motivate anybody. they are paid professionals who should be motivated to win championships, to win games to keep there jobs, this is the NFL not high school or college.

300 plus new players come into the league every year and at least 300 eave. staying in the NFL should be enough motivation unless you would rather cut grass or clean toilets....

You really shouldn't draft for need, Dashi. Dickey has said it.

Posted by: Wes | February 16, 2014 at 08:31 PM

It can give us an LT, then we can focus on other areas like RB, RG RT and ILB. There will also be other teams shedding decent o-line after the draft and FA agency is over.

We may also trade for o-line talent.

Wally, check out Carrolls locker room before and after a game. He is pumped up and the team feeds off of that. Philbin is a saltine cracker and the team plays accordingly.

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