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Dolphins concerned about what you think of them

Early Friday the Dolphins, looking around the free agent market for a right tackle and finding very few left, tried again to get Zach Strief of the New Orleans Saints to visit.

He declined.

And the news was reported by The Herald's Barry Jackson thusly: Free agent right tackle Zach Strief declined an offer to visit the Dolphins. Indications are that he prefers to return to New Orleans.

And the nugget was picked up by ProFootballTalk.com.

And the Dolphins apparently freaked.

The team that has suffered its share of notable rejections -- Jim Harbaugh, Peyton Manning, Jeff Fisher, Nick Caserio, Ray Farmer, Tom Gamble, and Lake Dawson -- is sensitive to the idea that it is being rejected on any front by anybody.

And the club apparently felt there was a perception the Strief decision not to visit stirred the rejection pot again. This despite the fact neither report by The Herald nor PFT mentioned the words "rejection" or "spurned" or anything close to it.

The Dolphins complained to Strief's representation, anyway.

And so this morning agent Ralph Cindrich went on his twitter account to correct the record that, frankly, didn't need correcting because the facts were all there and the perception he was trying to correct wasn't shared by everyone, anyway.

So Cindrich tweeted:

"I was made aware from the Dolphins that there was an incorrect perception the Dolphins were spurned-not the case. Saints negot's heated up."

As I've been reporting on my twitter account, the Dolphins like Strief. He's actually the only proven right tackle left on the market. But he's 30, has roots in New Orleans, loves the team and wants to stay there. The Saints want to keep him but their salary cap situation is so problematic they're being forced to trade or cut good players. 

So Cindrich, a longtime good agent, was hedging his bet by seeking other teams -- including the Dolphins. Cindrich has no issues with the Dolphins. Strief has no issues with the Dolphins. They don't talk on the phone and giggle like little girls about how ridiculous playing for the Dolphins would be.

It's just that Strief wants to go back to the Saints. It's business.

"Saints Mickey Loomis could not promise Strief home-cap rm," Cindrich tweeted. "Concerned, I sought teams, Dolphins fr start-every day. Great place for new start."

That does not mean, however, there will be a new start. It just means the Strief camp isn't mocking the Dolphins.

"Last tweet: Dolphins front office class people. Team took a hit when talks heated up with Saints. We never had a Miami visit set," Cindrinch added.

So where does this leave us?

Zach Strief, as of this writing, is not visiting the Dolphins. He has declined the invite. He's negotiating a return to the Saints. But his agent wants you to know that doesn't mean he's spurning the Dolphins.

More interestingly, the Dolphins want you to know they're not being spurned.

They're kinda sensitive that way.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/03/encouraging-outlook-for-um-hoops-heat-dolphins-marlins-chatter.html#storylink=cpy


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I am OK with Delmas, if he is on the field. But like Patterson, that can be an anomaly. Clemmons is a superior athlete to most safeties in the league. He just is not a good safety. He is always healthy and ready to play. He plays hard and is super fast. But he has no hands, and he makes up for that by not having good instincts. On the occasion that he is in position on anything other than the deep ball, he blows it. At last check, no one had even looked at him in FA.

Delmas is cool by me; I think we will draft a S this year.

Coltrane you forgot to mention Clemmons hits like a girl. I'm so glad we are moving on from him.

Fedupfan13, I read a short story by William Faulkner one time that was told from the perspective of a small child. It was 'That will be just fine ' if I remember correctly.

It is one of my favorite writings of all time. Your post reminds me of it. Thank you.

Indeed--what girl are you referring to? My wife is offended.

Posted by: Coltrane | March 16, 2014 at 02:10 AM

LMFAO at this post! So true though, some people need to go back and get their high school diplomas. How in the hell can anyone take an opinion seriously when it is expressed so poorly?

Indeed--what girl are you referring to? My wife is offended.
Posted by: Coltrane | March 16, 2014 at 02:17 AM

Some sort of passive Buddhist nun. I'm sure your wife hits harder than Clemmons.


Pryor may be there at 19, maybe HaHa. At the moment we still need OL help. Martin, if he is there, still looks like a great fit.

If we trade Jordan, we may be able to get them both and maybe one more. I like Jordan, but it seems our nitwits don't. I think Kelly will give us a one and more for him.

I would demand their one and two, and perhaps settle for their one this year and a conditional next year.

Kelly wants him; he knows how to use him. Jordan is out of place in a 4-3.

I'd rather we keep Jordan but you may be right about this coaching staff. It's beyond my comprehension that a DC can't figure out how to use a 6''7 DE/OLB with excellent coverage skills. He should lead the league in forced turnovers.

I'd rather we keep Jordan but you may be right about this coaching staff. It's beyond my comprehension that a DC can't figure out how to use a 6''7 DE/OLB with excellent coverage skills. He should lead the league in forced turnovers.
Posted by: The Woodshed Gang | March 16, 2014 at 02:50 AM

It's true I have no idea why we can't move Jordan around the linebacking level and send him at the QB from a variety of angles. He can cover the TEs and can play zone.

Woodshed. I think this is more of an indictment of our educational system than a critisism of the writer.

I have noticed from the 'young people' that I have been introduced, that they have no concept of literary or mathematical skills.

I recently met a teacher in our local school system; she could not do simple math in her head. She also could not form a sentence.

If I remember correctly, she got her brains banged out by a friend if mine. They met at a party we went to.

Darkoak, we had him playing head up and bull rushing the LT. That is the stupidest shiiit I have ever seen.

I can see Jordan playing DE one day but not until he bulks up. I'm fairly certain he can do more as a LB than a DE for us right now

That is my point,Darkoak. He, possibly could be a TE, DE or what ever; but to put him heads up on an LT and let the tackle get his hands on him without even trying just gives him to the OL. He should get to utilize his speed and quickness. I don't give a crap if he can never hold the edge, either run him at the QB or drop hi into coverage.

It appears to me that our players were coached to be ineffective.

A QB that is forced to stay in the collapsing pocket(so to speak).

Slow powerful linemen that were expected to pull.

A QB that his last read was his super-fast WR.

I don't know what the LBs were reading, but they just stood in their tracks while the play went on.

yeah Coltrane yours reminds me of evey other idiot on this block that plays fantasy football , you so demented you convinced yourselves , you know how to build a team, bunch mindless punks , , I forgot more about this game then you`ll ever know , and every word it my post is spot on so , go bl;ow one of your fantasy pals.

Posted by: Fedupfan13 | March 16, 2014 at 04:16 AM

Well at least I can understand what you had to say this time, even if it wasn't worth the effort.

We are always amazed by the interchange of commentaries here, between Daytona and Daytona. You can always tell that it is Daytona answering to himself by the length of his posts as he has absolutely no capacity for synthetic thought and is a sick MF.

However, we must give Daytona lots of credit for his stamina and resistance for remaining a sick MF.

It definitely takes dedication Oscar.

WR Edelman sign w the Pats again and so does consistent 600 a YD for 3 seasons Red Zone target WR La Fell

WR Britt meeting next w the Pats

The real issue here is that they failed to act decisively when the market was flush with talent. Now they are desperate so all panties in a wad over a guy who has been very clear he's not interested in going anywhere. Mando was right they had a #1 priority and a need for 4 starters . They got 1 and now FA is basically over. They now have to spend the first two picks on OL and HOPE they can start which that rarely happens. That also means they have to find a starting ILB, RB, FB in the 3-5 rds of draft. SS is questionable as Delmas is coming off injury,CB is questionable with everyone but Grimes coming off injury. Three WR coming off injury . So lets review they still have plenty of money but no sure starters at RB, FB, ILB, RT, RG, LG, and risky plays at SS and CB. NICELY DONE!

As long as your football mentality
starts and ends w ignorant drunken yelling and spitting
"Go Dolphins" and "We're Number One"

then this is the team for u

If u have even a remote shred of football knowledge, player personal and NFL coaches than u can only say

The Dolphins are "awful"


"Go Fish ! "

Okay...so Strief doesn't want to come here...

....so Phhuck 'em !!! Time to move on.....

If u believe the Dolphins are a better team than
New England and Denver especially after the 2014 FA
... then this is the team for u

If u believe this will be the year of the first Dolphin Playoff victory in 13 yrs
... then this is the team for u

If u believe Tannehill is more accurate w the deep ball than Brady & Manning
... then this is the team for u

If u believe the Dolphins have better pass protection & run blocking than the Patriots & Broncos
... then this is the team for u

If u believe the Dolphins o-line will provide a cleaner pocket, Tannehill will have better pocket presence & footwork than the Patriots or Broncos
... then this is the team for u

If u believe the Dolphins have a better owner, GM, HC, OC and power structure than the Patriots and Broncos
... then this is the team for u

If u believe that the Dolphins will give u a good return on your investment dollars on the thousands u will pay per person on season tickets, parking,food & bev costs,proud wearing Dolphin sports apparel and of course your valuable weekend time
... then this is the team for u

or just don't think and get drunk and yell & spit out
"Go Dolphins" & "We're Number One"

for now this Dolfan will simply & sarcastically shake his head and say

... "Go Fish !"


Got Kuechly ?

QUESTION: I yet to hear the word, REBUILD.

Can Mando get us some information on that? Are we rebuilding again? Are we plugging holes, again? Are we twisting in the wind, again?

This team FO still puzzles me...

...they are concerned about public perception..

..they should be concerned more about improving their record.

Austin Howard RT signed for $6 Million...
Zane Beadles G signed for $6 Million also..
Both are solid starters..

Reports were that the Dolphins liked them both, but would not overpay..

6 Million for a RT would not have been overpaying...

and Beadles at the same price was probably only about $1 to 1.5 Million more than the average starting Guard..

...HOWEVER, they passed on them, citing value signings as their objective...

But then, they paid $5.5 Million per year for Cortland Finnegan, letting Clemmons go, who then signed for about $1.65 Million a year.

If they would have "overspent" for Howard and Beadles,
(utilizing the difference between the Finnegan and the Clemons contracts)...

then the O-line would have looked like this:

problem on the O-line would have been solved, and there would still be PLENTY of Cap space to acquire Finnegan afterwards AND still having Clemmons (last year's starter)..

DUHHHHH!! WTF ? !!!!!!!!!!

Worried about perception? Make moves to improve the quality of the players, thus improving the chance for a better record, which would THEN change the public perception.

fins have had solid free agency so far. but pats have done even better so we continue to fall further behind them

You mean Carroll. Finnegan is a CB. Clemons is a safety

I agree with some of your logic - at least Beadles OR Howard would have been a great signing.

I like Smith at a great price. In my mind, the biggest mistake Hickey has made so far is paying a CB that has stunk the last 2 years that kind of money. There were a ton of good CB's on the market- why chase Finnegan for a big contract?


I totally hear you. The team puts a "value" on a certain player. It felt that Howard and more so Beadles, wanted too much money. It should be noted that finnegans contract is supposedly worth much in guaranteed money. Also, the NYJ are flush in cash and they let Howard go bc the truth is- Howard was really not worth what he ultimately got. He is an average player at best, not a $6 mill/year guy. Beadles, at least can argue, that he is worth $6-7 mill per year. The dolphins were outbid.

That should have said finnegans contract is supposedly NOT worth much

Other than the finnegan contract, which hopefully will truly be a glorified one year contract with little guaranteed money, I think Hickey has done fantastic in FA. While the OL was definitely the focal point to be improved, I believe the OL is on it's way to being better for 2014. Albert > martin. Pouncey=pouncey(also a contract year and wants to put te embarrassment of bullygate behind him). Shelley > Jerry. Jerry was a lazy, overweight piece of shite. Shelley fits the zone scheme better than jerry ever could. Right now, they need to find another OG and RT. Free agency cupboards are basically bare. There are some RT options and even fewer OG options left. It would be great if Hickey could get another OL value signing like davin joseph or Charles brown or even Eric Winston or Tyson Clabo.

Stupid Homers eh?

Devin Hester seems to be a -1 watt Player and of course, from the U.(Lookout!)

No...actually the stupid individual is the one who sees no value in this blog or anything that anyone has to say, yet consistently comes here anyway.

I can't believe anyone still reads this guy


No...actually the stupid individual is the one who sees no value in this blog or anything that anyone has to say, yet consistently comes here anyway.

Posted by: Buster | March 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM

Well actually this would account for everybody. You all just post away hoping some turd will agree with you and boost your feeble egos.


I'm not going to fault them for not finding more offensive lineman yet and looking for "value". I think they are also being careful to get the right guys to fit their scheme as well.

Maybe they will be able to find at least one more before the draft.

The one that I don't really get is Finnegan. Who is it that told them that he's got anything left??? There were plenty of safer choices for solid CB's. I just don't get that one.

Daytona, YG and innumerable others will go on a rant Today at exactly 12:45PM.

We are used to the Best of the Very Best. We don't want mediocre People around here, although we make exceptions for Autistic ones.

The one that I don't really get is Finnegan. Who is it that told them that he's got anything left??? There were plenty of safer choices for solid CB's. I just don't get that one.

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | March 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM

And why would you get it? How many hours of tape have you watched
on him? How many of his coaches and trainers have you spoke to? How many of your inside NFL contacts that have worked with him have told you about him? How much do you know of what role Hickey has for him? Insurance? Slim chance to make camp? Full time starter?

My guess is the answer to all of the above questions is ZERO, yet you wonder why you don't understand the move.

Posted by: Buster | March 16, 2014 at 08:43 AM


I think you've summed it up Buster. I would add not spending more on the O-line indicates they want to use the draft. Which is fine for the long haul. But does Philbin have that much time? Does Hickey?

Just stating an opinion Ogre and it was directed at a specific individual.

Did you mistakenly see "hey troll please respond" anywhere in the post???

Hickey does(have Time), Philbin hmm...

The one that I don't really get is Finnegan. Who is it that told them that he's got anything left??? There were plenty of safer choices for solid CB's. I just don't get that one.

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | March 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM

The ghost of Ireland succeeds again!!

Worst NFL Owner = Jerry Jones, Steven Ross

Worst HC = Jeff Fisher, Raison Head BloJoe Failbin

Any questions about Finnegan are answered in the following:

Annual Miami Dolphin aqua and orange anal bead giveaway starts in a few months

feel better Fin Fans!


It's piss poor when a sportswriter can't get his facts straight and claims Finnegan has been picked on over the past two years when it was only in 2013 he was picked on due to injury. 2012 was one of his best years of his career.

I think Dickey and the Witch have formed an alliance to take out Failbin and look good for the old fool by not spending his money and getting him value

The idiot should have pressured these clowns to get good players, instead he is siting back for this acorn, value shopping and does not realize that is his job on the line.

I agre with Mnado column, the Dolphins were a good OL away from being in the playoff, there was an opportunity to build one thru FA and maybe one guy from the draft, instead we got an OL that at best is as good (or should I say bad) as last year

Anyone knows if Seatle, Denver, NE, NO are also into this value shopping?

Does anybody really think that a team going into the season with 4 new starters on the oline, some likely rookies or with limited experience, really has a chance in hell?

I think with finnegan that most of us are scratching out heads on is the money. $5.5 mill per season for the 2nd worst rated CB last year (he was injured, so was grimes) is why I think most people are word drug what the dolphins are doing. That's why I'm hoping the contract is for low guaranteed money and is basically a 1 year prove it deal with tons of performance based escalators bc if this guy returns to form in 2014, the teams CB are formidable!

Lmao- word drug= worried. Friggin spell checker!

Homers please, honestly tell me:

Do you see any changes in this team that makes you hopeful thn we will be better than last year?

What upgrade have we done? ( yes we got Albert, but how about the OL as a unit?)

I don't see any significant upgrade that makes me believe we are playoff bound

Oh yes, one moe hope the draft....right, they must be a bunch of idiots in TB for letting go withouth even giving an interview the draft guru that would be picking for us

Posted by: professorlou | March 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM


Thanks for the link lou. I don't think most realize he's a stand up guy off the field.

It doesn't mean he will work out for us on the field but it does make you want to pull for him.

Go gogo,
It's addition thru subtraction. The team got better on the offensive line just because there is no more Martin, Incognito and Jerry. Like it or not, it's true.

Steve Ross, save the Dolphins. SELL THE TEAM!

Pats got Browner and Revis, Lafell, we got Finnigan 2 OL and Delmas. Msn er're in big trouble. The team is acorn shopping!

Peppers, Ware, Beason, Ratliff all are/were dominant why not offer like a 2 year deal at most 3. Browner a stud when he gets off of suspension. Cromartie is better than Finnigan, I'm just sick of this acorn shopping were doing! Aren't u?

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