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Burleson would have been insurance Dolphins still want

The interest in Nate Burleson by the Miami Dolphins was not so acute that they would get into a bidding war with the Cleveland Browns. Indeed, it was portrayed to me as a chance to investigate a solid veteran receiver who might be available at a relatively inexpensive price.

Burleson signed a one-year contract with Cleveland instead.

But the interest the Dolphins had raises some questions because it suggests the team saw the opportunity to purchase something that should not go unnoticed and now is unattended: Insurace for the health of Brandon Gibson and Brian Hartline.

Gibson and Hartline finished last season with knee injuries. Both are expected back for 2014 and, indeed, Hartline is conservatively expected back for June's mandatory minicamp, if not earlier. Gibson, who suffered a more serious patellar tendon tear in New England last October, is expected back at some point in training camp in late July and August.

But no amount of optimism about the recovery of two-thirds of the Miami starting receiver corps overshadows the fact the Dolphins felt a desire if not a need to shop for insurance (in the person of Burleson) against the possibility one of the two receivers (more likely Gibson) might not be ready for the 2014 season.

This raises the question whether the Dolphins will continue shopping for that insurance now that Burleson has gone to Cleveland? I believe the answer is yes. If another veteran receiver who the Dolphins think can be a good locker room add at a relatively cheap price comes along, I'd expect the Dolphins to show interest.

It speaks to having a secondary plan in case Plan A doesn't play out to script.

The script the Dolphins are operating under says Gibson and Hartline will be ready to play the 2014 regular season. Look for general manager Dennis Hickey to continue looking for opportunities to hedge his bet ... just in case the script doesn't go as planned.

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Mar and Dashi,

If the Vikings don't take Donald I believe the Bears will jump all over him.

When is it going to bethis year?

Obviously weare in rebuilding mode and a slow one

..Pats


New England Patriots:
Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (COM)
Blake Annen, TE, Cincinnati (INT)
Lonnie Ballentine, DB, Memphis (PRI)
Geraldo Boldewijn, WR, Boise State (PRO)
Xavius Boyd, LB, Western Kentucky (INT)
Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville (PRI)
Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (PRI)
Alden Darby, DB, Arizona State (PRO)
Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM)
Bruce Ellington, South Carolina (PRO)
Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (PRO)
C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa% (PRI) (COM)
Dee Ford, DL, Auburn (PRI)
Justin Gilstrap, CB, Middle Tennessee State (PRI)
Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State (PRO)
Kenny Guiton, QB, Ohio State (PRO)
Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming (PRO)
Stephen Houston, RB, Indiana (PRO)
Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno St (PRO)
Anthony Larry, DL, Eastern Washington (PRO)
Ben Malena%, RB, Texas A&M (VINT) (PRO)
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (PRI)
Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame (COM)
Shaquille Richardson, DB, Arizona (PRO)
Sammy Seamster, DB, Middle Tennessee State (PRO)
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington (COM)
Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina (PRO)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM)
Xavier Su'a-Filo, OL, UCLA (COM)
Jordan Tripp, LB, Montana (PRI)
Stephon Tuitt, DL, Notre Dame (PRI)
Billy Turner, OL, North Dakota State (PRI)
Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU (PRO)
Brock Vereen, DB, Minnesota (COM)
Nikita Whitlock, DL, Wake Forest (PRO)

Good teams are built from the inside out. Starts in the trenches. When you build from the outside in you end up with the Phins Oline. What made our D so good over last several yrs? Had Starks Soliai then added Wake, then Odrick @ DE then Vernon. Drafted a couple CB's but didn't work out yet D remained solid.

While DT isn't a pressing need, it IS a need. As you saw from an earlier mock I got one in 6th rd. As stated Starks will be out soon. You want to prepare for future not just give into your impatient "now wants" that way as your roster turns over you already have a guy there & not wasting talent at draft fixing holes of need.

I hope Francis turns into something. I hope Mitchell is what he's billed to be but we don't know. As all you naysayers put it..we're just a bunch of homers here..but as soon as the opportunity arrives to add significant talent(Donald is best pass rushing DT in draft, not just this one, in yrs) then you want to fall back like a homer on what's "unproven" ie: Francis & Mitchell.

If you always ignore BPA then you always be putting band aids on every year bypassing real talent.


...Buffy.

Buffalo Bills:
Odell Beckham, WR, LSU (PRI)
Bashaud Breeland, DB, Clemson (PRI)
Ross Cockrell, DB, Duke (PRI)
Scott Crichton, DL, Oregon State (PRI)
Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina (PRI)
Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (PRI)
Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU (PRI)
Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana (PRI)
Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame (PRI)
Bradley Roby, DB, Ohio State (PRI)
Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor (PRI)
Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (PRI)
Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson (PRI)
Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (COM)

Donald is overrated like MassD says. Yes, he dominant games against inferior olines.

Against Notre Dame: 1 tkl 0 sacks

Against Miami: 3 tkles, 2 of them assisted. 0 sacks

Notre Dame won 28-21. Miami won 41-31. Not exactly glowing reports of Aaron Donald the difference maker.

Miami and Notre Dame were the best olines Donald faced in 2013.

Never mind it is 2014 and Sam still dresses like a 1970s Butch.

He wears Cowboy shirts and Orthopedic shoes.

Also, this is the deepest draft in many years, so any GM on an 8-8 team would be a complete idiot to even think of trading up. The team has ALOT of holes, they really need additional early round picks, not giving picks away to move up.

Go gogo @ 3:38

Finally the message is getting through.
This team is trying to set up for #1 overall in 2015.
Tanne will be tradeable for a first or 2nd rounder.
If Hickey can bring in 1 or 2 stud OL then he can try and keep his job when Philbum is fired.

Dashi, In thought we determined last year that Sam was actually Samantha? That would explain the very wordy posts and warped perspective.

MassD,

It even can be argued Manziel makes more 1st rd sense for the Dolphins than Donald. Manziel will score far more points.

Donald would never be able to tackle Manziel once he scrambles. :)

HAVE SEE YOU BURJ DUBAI SKYSCRAPER? IS TALLEST BUILDING IN WORLD!

EK,

Agreed.

...Why would it be idiotic to move up? None of us has any idea how the team has evaluated our own players, plus the prospects. IMO it is idiotic to discard any option, both up, or down, or where we are at. Who is to say that we have a first round A+ evaluation on a guy, and he is reach. The player we have evaluated as the BPA, or to cover an area of need...How ever you want to do it? Should we pass just because the rest of the draft is deep? And who is to say that certain position is, or is not?

We can only speculate. How in the world can we even judge if a player is over drafted? Because the media, or the internet says that a player is or should be drafted here means nothing if that certain team evaluation is different.

Heck yes we should trade up if there is a player we want.

Donald runs a faster 40 than Manziel.

Manziel will be a bust as a pro.

MassD, you amy have your reasons but truth is the option for Lewan is in the cards.. you shoudl perhaps read Barry jackson's column from this weekend.

And come on man, using the word idiot in your replies, really?

Are you on the same plane as Sam, now?

No, DD, we should disqualify these options just because MassD would call those people idiots... sheesh, not really schooled in the art of the discussion...

I would't touch Manziel until the third round. He's a huge project.

THIS IS A VERY DEEP DRAFT - MEANING WHAT EXACTLY?

It means that 1 or 2 of the later round picks on a good team may make the team.

It means 1 or 2 of the later round picks will be starting on a crappy team.

See you kids and adults later. Some of you know which you are. :)

Really hope they don't trade up. Probably a terrible idea in a "deep" draft.

Trading back would make more sense, depending on what OL/TE/LB are there at 19. Should have a top LB/TE there at the least.

Might get lucky, could see a run/reach on QBs again.

Donald played with nobody else on that defense.

Why are you making an opinion about a player if you have never seen him play.

The Man is a Beast.

Donald

against national champions Florida State 3 tackles, sack

Duke (who whipsawed Miami) 2 tackles, sack

VaTech 6 tackles, 2 sacks

GaTech, 11 tackles, sack

North Carolina 5 tackles, sack

tell the whole story, will you...

sucks about burelson

ETF - Deep means there are more players in this draft with a 1st round grade than past drafts. How many, I am unsure of that but I can see a whole lot of good players through round 3. Players that will come in and make a difference.

Will there be misses in those rounds? Sure but the percentage will be less than most years.

I am on the trade down bus or stay put bus. IMO trading up is a scary proposition when you need as much help as Miami. For the 49ers, Denver and Pats, trading up to grab 1 player makes sense. 1 player can take good teams to the top. Mediocre teams like Miami need more than 1 player.

I'm not sure there is 1 player (even in this draft) that can help take Miami there.

That's exactly it ETF @ 3:57. It doesn't mean every draft pick in the first five rounds will be in Honolulu.

Doesn't even mean that every third round pick is better than 2nd round picks last year.

If you get the chance to trade up for the ONE guy you wanted and the price is tolerable, you do it.

Draft really needs to get here. We are all going crazy talking about scenarios and still have a month to go. Definitely going to be a dead next few weeks.

Kind of seems like things are just going around in circles here.

Did Ross cheap out on Burleson?

31 Days NeMo. Seems like a long time from now.

Texas' thoughts are pretty fair about this draft too.

Guess it comes down to how you feel on certain players.

For me, Taylor Lewan is the one guy... you get a chance to pick a ten year starter who grades out at as a top LT by using the 19th and 80th pick ... I think it's worth it.

19th and 54th pick, gets very murky...

In Closing:

In this draft, only trade up for a qb. Manziel, if he falls out of top 10.

Far to costly to trade up to the top 5. Far too risky to trade into top 6 thru 10. Any player falling out of the top 10 is no more likely to be a NFL superstar than any of the top 20 players. We pick #19, why waste meaningful draft picks?

Oline is deep in this draft. Trading up for a right tackle is a big time head scratcher, not to mention parting with in the very least a 3rd rd pick. Especially when possibly an adequate RT falls to us with a 3rd rd pick.

Then, drafting Donald, a DT who had monster games only against terrible collegiate olines. Notre Dame limiting him to 1 tackle, and Miami's oline limiting to 1 solo and 2 assists. Well, this has to be considered a line of thinking as close to flawed as the there exists in allowable limits.

Cheers Everyone!

...I'm definitely on the Donald Bandwagon. Watch the FLA State Game..I know the Noles blow them out. But Donald is in the back field the whole first half. Now the second half is a different story. But so is the Pros..Interior lineman do not play on nearly as many snaps as they do in college. Donald would be a rotational player.

Same with Clowney. Clowney never left the field in college. He will be a player in sub packages for now.

I do not see any downside to Aaron Donald. Any comparison to Warren Sapp, or Geno Atkins...I am a buyer. Sadly. Unless we move up. I can't see him falling to us.

MIT,

Liar, liar pants on fire. Donald had ZERO SACKS against Miami. What, do you think I did not look this up? Espn say he has ZERO sacks that game.

Are we now making things up to support flawed arguments?

Haha, if I was a teacher assessing YG's post, I'd need my red pen...

1. Nobody said trading into the top 5

2. You are not trading up for a RT, but a LT who will play that position long after Albert expands into size 58 pants (you can get good deals on his hand me downs)

3. Donald put up good games and stat lines against many good college teams (you must've had schmutz in your right eye while reading his stat log on ESPN)

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | April 07, 2014 at 02:52 PM

You are repetitive & boring. GOOD GRIEF! Don't you ever get sick of tooting your own horn? Is it cause no one else will do it for you? AWWWWWWW!

BTW moron, did you ever come to think, other people realize the same BASIC things you claim to be the 1st to point out? Just because everyone else doesn't have a big mouth & need recognition for it, doesn't mean you're the only 1.

Get over yourself dumbas*.

We lost more than we gained? That's why we won more games, right? Come back when you're not so clueless LOLOLOLOL

We are not 1 player away.

But we also aren't in rebuild mode. Or need more than half a new roster.

If the player fills a need and is also a BPA, trade up if you can. (T.Lewan)

Our defense is solid. So I hope that Hickey addresses the offense in this draft. No need to draft defense until the 4th round. 3rd round if we already answered the O-line with our first 2 picks.

Sam,

Just leave already.

We know you are only going to change your name.

Don't worry. We will play a long with you.

*along with you.

Posted by: Darryl Dunphy | April 07, 2014 at 04:09 PM


How many of FSU's olinemen are being talked about in the draft?

Donald couldn't hold Warren Sapp's jockstrap even with dirt and mold on them. At best, he will flash Warren Sapp in the NFL, but would be far from the 2nd coming of Warren Sapp.

It would truly be an "Ireland move" to trade up or even take him at #19. Love you guys, but I totally pass.

Hahaha, bye guys

by the way, guys,

haha, what a buffoon...

I agree with Dashi, just go away.

Preferably go play on the train tracks

Or take a long walk on a short pier

Mark,

That is where I feel this draft is different. Sua-Filo is a ten year starter just at OG not RT. The 1 thing that makes Lewan a better choice is he'll be a LT and as we know that is the premier position on the line. I hate saying that because I know it takes all 5 guys up there but that LT protects the blind side.

The other thing that makes that trade harder for me is guys like Bitonio and James. Those guys are 10 year starters but at OG or RT and not LT. Bitonio might get a shot down the road at LT but he's starting on the right or at G. But there are other options to losing players for a trade up and that is my point. If Lewan was the last RT/LT in this draft and we desperately needed LT, I would make the deal in a heart beat.


OK well that settles it then, the seer YG think Donald won't play so there's no more use in discussing it.

Chicago, Dallas, don't bother wasting a pick here...

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The Fins will stink again

2. You are not trading up for a RT, but a LT who will play that position long after Albert expands into size 58 pants (you can get good deals on his hand me downs)

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | April 07, 2014 at 04:12 PM

Earth to Earthling, you do not give a player $20M in GUARANTEED money to only start a year or two for you. Drafting a LT right now is far premature. Barring serious injury, Albert's the starting LT for at least the next 3 years.

Ok. so we draft the LT, have him play RT for 3 YEARS. With 3 YEARS at RT, it's ZERO TRANSITION going back to LT? A mind is a terrible thing to waste.


MIT,

Liar, liar pants on fire.

Posted by: SAM I AM

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A grown man actually wrote that?!?

Good Lord.


A grown man actually wrote that?!?

Good Lord.

Posted by: embarrassed FOR you | April 07, 2014 at 04:24 PM

This is obviously Mark or Dashi

Texas, I agree with your assessments on all players.

To the point that if we can't trade up for Lewan then the next best way to address the line is to take Bitonio at 50 or whatever it is we pick at.

I think two o linemen is overkill. At worst, we will have two first, a 2nd, and a third pick on the o line. that is about as deep an investment as you will find around the league.

Now talking about taking o line in one and 2 - that would make our entire five consist of 3 ones, a two, and a 3. now with that type of investment we should have the best line in the league but we won't. At some point you just need to tell your coaches to make it work.

With Lewan, yes he's a right tackle to start but how long until he beats out Albert at LT? A year, two tops?

You aren't drafting a RT but a top tier LT and those are definitely worth picks #19 and 80 something...

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Texas

No one's a 10yr NFL starter. If it happens it happens. But its never written in stone. Injuries usually have too much say in this. Jake Long was supposed to be this. Now he struggles to stay healthy.

Sam...

But a team official says the Dolphins would be happy if they could somehow snag Michigan’s Taylor Lewan, who is projected by most analysts to be gone by their pick at No. 19. An associate of Lewan said he is aware of Miami’s interest.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

Sam, maybe you should educate yourself... and put down that cheesie for pete's sake...

LOL @ 4:12

Everybody in here repeats the same thing over and over.
How many times have I heard abut Carlos Hyde? and Ful'oswallow?

And our WRs and RBs had less total cumulative production than the year before.

Did our win total increase? Yes it increased from 7 to 8.

But remember those first 3 games against Indy, Cle and Atl? The team with the ball on the final possession was in possession to win, we could just as easily have lost those first 3 games.

Sam, I'm pretty sure the Eagles gave Peters 15 mil plus guaranteed this offseason to play left tackle and have Lane Johnson play right tackle. Johnson went 4 overall.

Fisher and Joekel played RT and went 1 and 2 overall.

Tyron Smith went 9 overall in 2011 to the Cowboys, started at RT and flipped to left after a year or 2. Solder with the Pats went from right to left after Matt Light retired.

I get your point, but its not completely unprecedented or unrealistic.

MIT,
I understand that Lewan's associate has gang affiliations.

Break up those damn yankees the yankees win theeeee yankeeeees wiinnnnnn ! Yahoo


You aren't drafting a RT but a top tier LT and those are definitely worth picks #19 and 80 something...

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | April 07, 2014 at 04:27 PM


LMAO! At #19, you're crapshooting at landing a true top tier LT.

At #19 or further, you're getting closer to "an adequate LT" than franchise LT. So, we just trade up for an adequate starting LT that will play RT, when e just signed a PRO BOWL starting LT.

I now nominate you citizen of the year. :)

Agree with Texas - good post.


But remember those first 3 games against Indy, Cle and Atl? The team with the ball on the final possession was in possession to win, we could just as easily have lost those first 3 games.

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | April 07, 2014 at 04:30 PM

But, we didn't. Makes you wrong but, you won't shut up. You're obnoxious.

DOOFUS!

And we are doing it with speed and pitching

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