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Jordan beat teammates to offseason program

Amid rumors (so far unfounded and as I previously reported untrue) that the Dolphins are either shopping or willing to trade Dion Jordan, the player who is the hope of the team's pass rush in the future is taking his current status seriously.

Jordan, according to Joe Philbin, showed up at the team's training facility "a couple of weeks ago," the Dolphins coach told the team's in-house website Tuesday, to begin training for the 2014 season. The majority of the rest of the team showed up Monday for offseason conditioning and strength training.

(By the way, the Dolphins are not making coaches and players available to legitimate media during this period).

And so why is Jordan's early attendance to the offseason program notable?

Because Jordan played fewer snaps than just about any first round pick selected last season despite being No. 3 overall.

Because he had only two sacks and five quarterback hits along with 24 total tackles -- which did not meet anyone's expectations.

And because, I'm told, Jordan wants to be much, much, much better than that in 2014.

So the fact we are three months from the start of training camp and slightly more than six months before the start of the season and Jordan is already pushing to get better is great news. It speaks to his work ethic and his realization that better things must come in 2014.

It should be pointed out that Jordan missed the entire offseason conditioning program last year because, well, he was a rookie and even after being drafted he was still nursing a surgically repaired shoulder injury.

That issue also kept Jordan sidelined much of the training camp and limited him during the season.

So what you saw last year was a diminished player not fully healthy, not fully integrated into the Miami system and not fully prepared to compete. With a full offseason (and then some) of work between now and July, the Dolphins hope to see a different player -- the guy they drafted No. 3 overall.

On another matter, the Dolphins added free agent punter and kicker Matt Szymanski on a one-year contract today. Hear that Caleb Sturgis?

 

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Great to see. We may now have a future great leader on the defensive side of the ball. Wish the kid a simply dominating season this year.

Only, I'm not sure where he is going to line up. I'm pretty sure now the guy is a DE and not a LB as Chip Kelly was using him mostly. But we already have 2 very good DEs. Then?

"That issue also kept Jordan sidelined much of the training camp and limited him during the season".

That and Coyle was clueless.

I want to see this kid SHUT UP everyone bashing him. The guy was injured last year.

He needs to freelance at OLB and spell Wake and Vernon IMO. Bring him from all angles.

Oscar Canosa Dion Jordan could EASILY average 40 snaps per game as a 3rd DE who cares about starting on a DL? Do you realize they are ALL on snap limits

Also Vernon is AVERAGE not great he's a long way from being great. He got sacks based on 2 of his team mates getting double teams like every other snap and through good hustle solid player but not great. His pass rushing productivity is poor.

Jordan if healthy will obviously be the 2nd best pass rusher we have and the best at covering TE's in 2 TE sets.

Dion Jordan has all the physical attributes to be elite. Now, we're getting a fair look at his work ethic and dedication. Great news for the Phins that he's checking all those boxes as well. Seriously optimistic about this kid.

I believe that Olivier Vernon is the best draftee that Ireland ever had.

Yeah, the 5-2.

Oscar, he's not elite in any category. He's a great rotation guy, nothing more. His sack number was a product of his situation and opportunities.

if you think Vernon was his best draft pick you've LOST YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEAD.

Vernon is a solid contributor that's it he's never going to be a great player but he's very athletic and has good hustle. One of those good rotational DE's you like to have.

Philbin says that Lazor's System will be similar to Sherman's. They will have 3,5, 7 steps drops and they will run the same routes, inside, outside, double moves. Yeah, sure, but which Players from which positions?

Olivier is strong as hell and he can move, man. A must for a DE.

And, who do you think was Ireland's best draft pick up to now considering the Rd they were drafted, jordan? Tannehill, Pouncey?

"(By the way, the Dolphins are not making coaches and players available to legitimate media during this period)."

What illegitimate media are the Dolphins players and coaches being made available to? :)

Vernon is better vs the run than he is as a pure pass rusher.
Jones Hartline and Pouncey all better picks by Ireland.

I could give two hoots what position he lines up at , and I think this is being made a much bigger deal than it really is. So , the kid's an outstanding pass rusher who can also cover tight ends , and that's supposed to be bad ?? Give me a very large break.

That's funny the Dolphins signed a punter named Matt Szymanski. I briefly dated a guy with the same name--although it was years ago!

Hopefully this relationship works out better, lol.

Olivier Vernon is basically a cam wake clone. Very quick off the line, compact and very strong. He also has a lot of room to grow. He's like 22 years old. He could very well equal cams output in just a couple years.

Posted by: twyger | April 22, 2014 at 07:17 PM

Propaganda media at Dolphins.com I guess, and blogs? Didn't Finsider interview Wallace today?

Tom @ 7:31

When you say that you 'dated' a guy name Matt Syzmanski do you mean that you let him have his with your body in exchange for money?

twiger @ 7:17

What Mando is saying is that all of the reporters that showed up today were let in except for Mando.
But that okay, Mando does not need to hear from Philbum or Hickey what is going on because he has a secret source inside HQ: the Cuban-born custodian.

Sorry, but you'll have to have your "tee hee" sexual innuendo jokes with another 14-year-old, Fraud.

I could give a rat's ass what you think of me or my sexuality, punk. I just thought it was a funny coincidence.

Grow up.


He needs to freelance at OLB and spell Wake and Vernon IMO. Bring him from all angles.

Posted by: Darkoak | April 22, 2014 at 06:51 PM

Agreed!! Shades of AJ Duhe from back in the day who Arnsparger lined up on both sides at OLB & DE!

Tom,
You misunderstand, I want to know how much you charge for a 'date'.


Propaganda media at Dolphins.com I guess, and blogs? Didn't Finsider interview Wallace today?

Posted by: Darkoak | April 22, 2014 at 07:38 PM

I found it disappointing that both Wallace (who lives in Houston) and Tannehill (from Texas) were both in the same St. during the Off-Season yet couldn't agree to get together to do any work. It seems the other WR's found time to get together with their QB except Wallace. If you read into there body language some from last Yr. you get the impession (at least I did) that they didn't care for each other much. Hope I'm wrong here but we may very well see more of the same (meaning low out-put) from this hook up in 2014.

I like to look at coffee beans. They are neat.

Looks for sure Dolphins see him as more DE. Best case scenario, he beats out Olivier Vernon. IMO, Vernon is not yet a first option pass rush DE. I still see Vernon a very good "complimentary" pass rush DE. Why?

Here's why:

When I saw many of Vernon 2013 sacks, they weren't sacks where he DOMINATED the OT to his side. Yes, he had 11.5 sacks, but if you can go back and examine them he could easily have only 7-8 sacks.

Because he isn't really dominating in the way he gets his sacks, I'm still not convinced he's a "double-digit" sack guy every year. I do see him as a 8 sack a year DE. IMO, we do need a guy who can step up and consistently be that 10 sack or more year post Cam Wake era.

The post Cam Wake era approaches sooner than we think. So, we must see Jordan progress by leaps and bound in 2014. After all, he is a #3 overall pick, and we threw in an extra 2nd rd pick to get him. He can not fail, he needs to compete for DPOY nearly every year.

Sam The Sham

It is never too late to swallow cyanide.

Jordan also could not participate in OTA"s because the conference he played in had late graduations. A lot of things were against him.

Vernon is an outstanding football player. De with LB speed. 22 years old who will get much, much stronger. Jordan is an unpredictable Joker who, if he gains 15 lbs of muscle will cause havoc. I can't wait to see him coached up and healthy.

fin4

The price we paid for Jordan, he needs be far more than a gimmick player. Far more than trying to put him in positions to succeed.

Jordan needs to become a DOMINATOR, run and pass game. He needs to be a consistently unblockable force. He need to straight up dominate no matter how he's used or scheme he plays in.

We paid too much for Jordan to be trying to "FIGURE OUT" how to make him more successful. AJ Duhe was not a #3 overall pick. Plus, AJ Duhe only has 8.5 sacks his entire 8yr Fins career.

Sam,

Do you realize you are the only one that gives any value to your opinions? You know, telling us Sparano would be the most sought after HC and the rest of your babble has pretty much relegated you to loser kiddie dashi status.

I know Ireland is gone. But Philbin should explain why he drafted an outside linebacker on a 3-4 defense when you run a 4-3 and your main strength is the Defensive line. Having said that, I hope he has a great year.

The Dullfins were too cheap to pay Carpenter and also wasted a draft pick on Sturgis. What a franchise!

schedule comes out tomorrow night!

Dipa,

Philbin didn't draft anybody. The GM does the draft. Get a clue.

Per Ryan Tannehill, "I love Mike Wallace, he's a great guy".

Just like he said, running by your self is one thing. But can you fo it being covered?

Jordan's strong suit is the speed rush. He is athletic and should do well in pass coverage. Do not believe he would be well served in a 3point stance.
Need to take advantage of his natural strengths, much like Denver uses Von Miller, rather than attempt to turn him into something he's not.
Would be great if they could get Jason Taylor to mentor him.

Can anyone name even one regular daily blogger that actually improves the blog?

It seems like the best bloggers here just pass by here and there while the regulars turn it into a sandbox for babies.

Julio, state your credentials and please explain us how you know better than professional coaches with decades of NFL experience.

Good luck.

Another mock draft with personal thoughts:

Rd 1: Brandin Cooks: Makes so much sense for the Dolphins. Another weapon on offense and another weapon as a punt returner. Major upgrade over Thigpen. They say speed kills. If that's true, this guy is a killer.

Rd 2: JaWuan James: Another perfect pick for Miami. Guy's a beast. And he's a pure RT. Enough with drafting guys and playing them another position. This guy is a RT and will play RT. Get him.

Rd 3: Donte Moncrief: Yes, another WR. This guy will be special. Him and Cooks will be the Dolphins future with Tannehill. Wallace will become too expensive even though I'm a big fan of his and Hartline will eventually be gone as well. Moncrief is my favorite player in the entire draft and I really hope the Dolphins get him. Question is will he be available in round 3. Big if.

Rd 4: Nevin Lawson: Sleeper pick for Miami but lots of potential. Physical corner who loves to attack the run despite limited size. Will need to get in the weight room and get bigger and stronger but could be a very good pick in round 4. Need to draft at least one corner since we don't know how the Finnegan experience will turn out and Taylor and Davis are still very unproven.

Rd 5: Cornelius Lucas: Yes, another tackle. Good looking prospect with awesome size, huge man. Nasty mean streak, which I love for an offensive lineman. Still raw and will get beaten, but won't back down from anyone. As tough as they come. I'd rather spend a draft pick on someone like Lucas than bringing back McKinnie quite frankly.

Rd 6: Ed Stinson: The Dolphins have already spoke with him and he would be a great gamble in round 6. Much better against the run but needs to develop as a pass rusher. Still, very good potential and last time I checked Miami sucked against the run. Worth the risk, especially that late in the draft.

Rd 7: Kevin Pierre-Louis: Outside linebacker who's a tad undersized but very athletic and ALWAYS around the ball. Excellent special teams player so he could be a contributor for Darren Rizzi.

Julio, please state your credentials and then tell us how you know better than NFL coaches with 10+ years pro experience.

Good luck.

Phins pass rush is going to simply dominate this year. Wake is healthy and with his history im assuming he will stay that way, vernon has turned into a dominant passrusher, odrick and starks are two of the best pass rushing dts, wheeler is actually a very dominant pass rusher despite his struggles he was constantly in the backfield on pass plays hurrying the qb, and jordan is a freak of nature
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I could see jordan actually doing more coverage this year as he has proven to be capable of covering top tight ends. On top of that weve got so many pass rushers that coyle can choose from. If we get a dominant mlb to stop the run this defence will easily become top 5 once again.


Julio, please state your credentials and then tell us how you know better than NFL coaches with 10+ years pro experience.

Posted by: BLT | April 22, 2014 at 09:15 PM


Heck, I think everyone on this blog knew more football than Ireland.

Ireland had 2 billionaires hire him as GM. No NFL team would pay a nickel for the opinion of any blogger here.

I know, you love to think you actually know something. Don't quit your day job.

Ok, he wasn't GM at Dallas, but he was a top scout on the payroll. Not like you slugs who have absolutely nothing to offer any NFL team.

Ireland had 2 billionaires hire him as GM.

Posted by: BLT | April 22, 2014 at 09:29 PM

Big Mistakes!!! LOL

Ross didnt hire Ireland. Parcells did.

I love the few blog big shots dictating their phony bs. None of them could get any NFL team to pay them a nickel for their services.


fin4

The price we paid for Jordan, he needs be far more than a gimmick player. Far more than trying to put him in positions to succeed.

Jordan needs to become a DOMINATOR, run and pass game. He needs to be a consistently unblockable force.

AJ Duhe was not a #3 overall pick. Plus, AJ Duhe only has 8.5 sacks his entire 8yr Fins career.

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 22, 2014 at 08:17 PM

Sam,

Just caught your post been watching the Hawks self destruct against the Pacers....

Then you believe LT was a gimmick player throughout a very dominating career. Look it up Belichik lined Taylor up on both sides always looking for the Miss-Match which forced teams to have to come up with game plans designed around were he was Pre-Snap. I'm not calling Jordan the G.O.A.T. by any stretch but alot of what Taylor did out of the 4/3 is something you would hope Coyle tries with Jordan if for anything else in an attempt to have packages were he's on the field with Wake and Vernon at DE and either combo of the 3 DT's we have given all are able to get pressure inside in the scheme.

On Duhe the career numbers don't tell the story, he was after all the 77 Defensive Rookie of the Yr. He spenta large part of his career injured missing alot of games and his main spot was at ILB in the 3/4 were Arnsparger would get cute and line him up at WILL or SAM or DE in his signature 82 Season given the team was reeling from the deaths of LB's Rusty Chambers in 80 and later Larry Gordon after 82 Season.

Duhe plugged alot of those holes playing in a alot of positions from week to week depending on the match ups. This of course forcing Shula into the trades that brought Bob Brunzinski (SOLB) and Ernie Rohne (ILB) to the Killer Bees. In 83 he blew out his knee in Sheah Vs. the Jets and it was the end given those operations in those days were a butchering! Before that you can make a case for Duhe being the heart and Soul of the D more than Betters, Bokamper, Bomhauer or any of those guys who were the #1 D in 82 and if not for up and down Woodley would have won SB-17.

Ireland had 2 billionaires hire him as GM.

Posted by: BLT | April 22, 2014 at 09:29 PM

They're both very sorry. LOL

Among the prospects attending the Draft ceremony, 0 RBs, 7 WRs. Hmm...


Ireland had 2 billionaires hire him as GM.

Posted by: BLT | April 22, 2014 at 09:29 PM

Not true! We wasn't even hired by 1 Billionaire! He was a scout for the Cheifs before joining Dallas as Directorof Scouting (Jerry is te G.M.) Then in 08 Bill Parcells who "WAS" hired as Exec. of Football Ops. by Billionaire Owner H.Wayne Huzienga hired him to be his G.M. Later new Fins Owner Ross retained him but but that's not the same as hiring! So in actuallity it was Millionaire "Over hyped" Fats Tuna who gave him his break and hired him to be a G.M.

The other thing fin4life is Jordan has speed. That means he can line up in one spot as a LB but bring pressure on another part of the Oline from where he lines up.

BLT lies

It was Parcells that hired Ireland, not Ross. And Parcells won with him and Sparano.

Billionaires paid his salary. That is all that matters. No team ever gave any blogger here a nickel.

Well oscar, we may get Hyde in the 2nd round then.

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