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Players Dolphins like: Guard edition

NFL teams have drafted 12 guards in the first round since 2000.

So 14 drafts have netted a dozen first round guards and those relatively modest numbers have nearly doubled the past two drafts when five guards were picked in the first round.

Of those 12 first-round guards, only four have become multiple Pro Bowl players -- Mike Iupati, Ben Grubbs, Steve Hutchinson and Logan Mankins.

NFL teams ignored the guard position in the first round altogether in 2000, 2003, 2004, 2008, and 2009 and had only one first-round guard picked in 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2010 and 2011 when the Eagles picked Danny Watkins. Yeah, that Danny Watkins.

(By the way, the Dolphins picked Vernon Carey in 2003 but I think we all know he was a tackle most of his career and the only reason he played guard early in his career was short-sighted coaching decisions).

The point is with only one true guard, UCLA's Xavier Su'a-Filo, showing enough promise to suggest value in the first round, it stands to reason the Dolphins are probably not going to fill their need for a guard in the first round.

No source. Just a hunch.

But in later rounds? Maybe the third or on the third day of the draft? Fans should hope so because the team has a definite need at the position and, my opinion, it would be a mistake to bank on the guard possibilities currently on the roster -- outside of Shelley Smith who was signed as a free agent to be a starter -- to find another starter.

So who and what are the possibilities? Today we continue our look at the players the Dolphins have shown interest in and focus on guards.

Consider:

G  Joel Bitonio Nevada: He's 6-4 and 302 and played some tackle in college but several NFL teams see him as a guard. He's likely a second round pick, probably before the Dolphins pick in that round at No. 50. That might be too early for Miami to trade up to. Trade back in the first and get him and and another pick?

G Kadeem Edwards Tennessee State: He's 6-4 and 308, extremely long arms (34 1/2) but needs to improve his upper and lower body strength, projected third day of draft player.

G Jon Halapio  Florida: He's 6-4 and 323, projected round 4-5.

G Brandon Linder  Miami: He's 6-6 and 311, better suited for zone blocking than man, which obviously is in the Dolphins wheelhouse. Here's the thing, though, the Miami offensive line that was so big and so experienced the past two years was also something of a dud. Projected 3-4 rounder.

G Spencer Long  Nebraska: He's 6-5 and 320 and is the best OL prospect on team but had reconstructive knee surgery in October. He may not be ready for training camp, which makes him a later-round possibility. I got to say, the Dolphins need to start drafting healthy players because drafting the ailing players was a tremendous bomb last year.

G-OT Zack Martin  Notre Dame: He's 6-4 and 308 and is a very solid right tackle candidate but some teams think he needs to project as guard. That's fine, except the kid would rather play tackle and his experience at guard is comparatively limited. "Clean" player. Ready to start. Can fill in at RT in a pinch.

G Justin McCray UCF: He's 6-3 and 321, local kid from Southridge High School, was selected first-team All-American Conference. Third round type.

G Jordan McCray UCF: He's 6-2 and 322, the twin to Justin, also first-team All-American Conference pick, slightly stronger than his brother and better punch, not quite as quick. Third round type.

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Oscar
is that u?
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lol

This will be the last year for both Tannehill and Philbin with the Dolphins.

oscar canosa, a bust doesn't throw for 3900 yards, 24 TD's, and a 60% comp percentage

Armando,

Is it to early to nominate FSU QB Jameis Winston as Sports Illustrated "Idiot of the Year"?

"The point is with only one true guard, UCLA's Xavier Su'a-Filo, showing enough promise to suggest value in the first round, it stands to reason the Dolphins are probably not going to fill their need for a guard in the first round.

No source. Just a hunch."


I'm not following Mando's line of reasoning here. With a starting caliber Guard being a huge need for this team, wouldn't going after the one true 1st rd graded Guard be the no-brainer pick for us?

Jesus!!! Some of you are still debating the merits of drafting the OL we need (In a deep group) intead taking possibly a WR in our 1st Rd selection. You guys aren't paying attention to the way the 49ers and Seahawks have shifted the NFL landscape!

Let's analyze how both these teams have gone from the bottom of the heap to top of the mountain in 4 short Yrs.

For starters no real revelation excpet for a couple of H.C.'s (Who competed at the NCAA level) taking the League back to grass roots Football.....

Both teams make a LIVING pounding the Football between the Tackles with tough inside runners (Lynch, Gore) Behind Big OL's, the 49ers with 3 #1 picks playing on that line (Staley,Lupati,A.Davis) The Hawks with 2 #1's and a #2 in Okung, (LG) J.Carpenter and Center Unger was a #2 pick! Neither has a QB I would consider elite but both can exploit you when you crowd the line and bring the Strong Safety up.

One of the things that these teams have exposed (That nobody mentions) is that both have brought back the Safety Pos. Thanks to the Cover-2 scheme and emphasis on passing in the last decade the Cover-2 has made the CB Pos. and Safety Pos. almost interchangeable! Not the case on these 2 teams with Big Strong Safety's (Chancellor and Whittner) who can play up at the line and drop into short centerfield decapitating opposing players. It's the reason I think S.F. got alot weaker losing Whittner and why they'll go Safety in trade up if the deal to move on K.Mack falls through (A strong possibilty given there trying to deal with Oak and Bradley might grab him 3rd overall in Jax)

Other teams have taken notice look at the Falcons who spent the last few Yrs tweaking the WR Corp and pass game this Yr. all in on fixing the interior DL and probably going LT in the draft. Also the Saints have allowed WR's to leave dealing Sproles in order to keep there RT and IMO a possible landing spot for R.Hageman given they addressed Safety in FA with best deep centerfielder or maybe MLB if Mosley falls to them replacing Vilma just a couple of Yrs ago not the case in New Orleans when they let LG J.Evans walk!

The idea that you can't have a few 1st Rd'ers or high picks across the OL because of needing exclusively playmakers flies in the face of what the NFL's best are doing right now! To bad Ross couldn't close Harbaugh! Between him and Carroll haven't revolutionized anything just gone back to the basics of what made Championship Football which the rules changes had everybody forgetting and in turn exposing Peyton ball for one-dimensional Football that's fun in the Reg. Season but doesn't translate to Champion on a consistant basis given your always looking for that big play instead of matriculating the ball down the field and winning in the trenches!!!!!!!!

Albert, that award is owned in perpetuity by YG...

oh wait, you said Sports Illustrated as in athletic idiot.. that one's open

YG has the monopoly on plain old idiot of the year..

That's fine f4l, but the talent has to be there to do that..

Just because there is a guy there with the position beside his name doesn't mean he should be the pick.

Is he the best in a weak class?

ILB and S are weak this year.

And what good is it picking the 5th best o lineman at 19?

MIT,
And to think that this guy is actually occupying a chair at a major University. If it was not for his athletic skill you would of seen this guy already on "The First 48 Hours"

Posted by: fin4life | April 30, 2014 at 03:28 PM

Yup, and that investment is constant, always bringing in more players so they can afford to lose one or two to free agency if it happens.

Jameis Winston's 2015 draft stock just took a HUGE hit. First rape allegations, now this.

He was given the "benefit of the doubt" with those accusations, now after the lastest incident, even some of his staunchest supporters will wonder if he really did it. He of all people needed to stay "squeaky-clean" coming into 2015's draft.

After this most recent incident, he could see his 2015 draft stock plummet as far as 3rd rd. Huge character concerns now exist. That was one helluva expensive crab leg he was caught stealing and didn't get to enjoy.

We need a playmaker in the 1st rd. QB or RB preferably.

Sam I Am,
If Winston has another season like he had last year he will still be a #1 pick. Maybe even the 1st pick. It does not matter. As long as he is not too mean like Richie then he will be fine. However if you are too mean you are done!!

Well, its a very good draft for QB's.

I now wouldn't take Jameis Winston with a 3rd rd pick in 2015. He could become our next Cecil Collins.


ILB and S are weak this year.

And what good is it picking the 5th best o lineman at 19?

If you interpreted after reading that post that I in anyway advocate the Safety Pos. then you missed the point....

Do either Ha Ha Clinton Dix or Pryor for that matter resemble the prototypical Strong Safety before you essentially had a bunch of Free Safety's playing the Pos. out of the Cover-2 in the last 10 Yrs???? As for the MLB I clearly make a point of stating you need to fix the holes in the trenches 1st. I mentioned Mosley as a pick for the Saints because he'd be a great plug next to D.Hawthorne taking Vilma's spot as the drop LB in there 3/4 scheme and only if Hageman isn't there because they need the DT (Nix might be another great scheme fit here)

My point is that the game after a decade of pinball #'s is slowing backdown to it's grass roots led by a couple of Old School guys in Carroll and Harbaugh. Look the 49ers that went to the NFC Title game Vs. N.Y. in 2011 are the same team (almost to the man) that went 8-8 in 09 and 6-10 in 2010 before going 14-2 in 2012 dominating till the present! They do it up front on both sides of the ball and the Seahawks are built in the same fashion with both teams sportng multiple #1 picks and 2's across there OL. The same moves you've spent a month posting were redundant. I hadn't been here in the day for sometime but read your stuff at night and just waited the moment to drop my two cents!

As far as the Safety Pos. I believe both teams secret is that they are anchored by the Strong Safety Pos. which has been a lost art form (almost extinct) since Rodney Harrison retired and the CB's and Safety's became interchangeable pieces. I don't see that player in this draft and the reason I wouldn't touch a Safety till C.Loston in Rd-4 to give a shot. Had we taken Big TJ McDonald last Yr. (Dad was an Old School S.S. himself!) we might have the guy instead of J.Jenkins who I don't see as an everydown guy.

Posted by: fin4life | April 30, 2014 at 04:02 PM

Directed at MIT!

Sam I am,

Look at the LB in San Francisco. He has been arrested Multiple times, yet he is welcomed at 49rs camp. The league gives him a slap on the wrist. This league has more hoodlums than an old house has termites yet the NFL P.R. department always smooths things over. Why? Because these guys make the owners millions of dollars.

f4l, I think it's a good idea to have about 3 high picks on your line but let's not forget that

1. WE already have two ones in Albert and Pouncey
2. The player should be every bit deserving of their grade and not simply the next guy dwn the list to fill a need.

By the way, I really like one SS in this draft... Deone Buccanon of Wash St.

Cam newton is one dumb fukk and stole laptops at Florida.

MIT,
Cam Newton reminds me of Steve McNair. Once his legs are gone he is done.

Well just 8 short days and we can go from debating to critiquing lol.

The draft is always anticlimactic for me. You wait and you wait and then it's like, Daniel Thomas? Huh.

It's actually kind of interesting that Ireland's last draft could actually save Philbin's job if Jamar Taylor, Dallas Thomas, and Dion Jordan can make an impact this year.

Actually all 3 players were high on a lot of people's boards, although the jury is still out on if we overspent on Jordan.

Still say if Martin is there at 19 this year he's the pick.

If not it seems to me like you pray for a trade back or go bpa. Pryor, Cooks, Beckham, Dixon.

Mosley scares the heck out of me.

Fin4life, a couple of very nice posts. San Fran did get rid of Whitner but also signed his replacement in move that went relatively unnoticed. They signed Antoine Bethea from the Colts to replace Whitner. They also used their first rounder last year on Eric Reid to replace Goldson.

I agree the safety position seems to be getting more popular. Just look at Seattle. Earl Thomas and Chancellor. They are paying Thomas 10 mil a year now and Chancellor 7 mil a year.

That is why I said I would be fine with the team signing Byrd even though we are paying Jones a lot. A team shouldn't be paying 2 safeties a lot of money Mando and others said.

I guess Seattle should have let Earl walk ha ha. My favorite safeties in this draft are Deone Bucannon and Jimmy Ward. I don't love either of the first rounders much for different reasons.

Posted by: albert | April 30, 2014 at 04:04 PM

Im saying now what if the sexual allegations against Winston are true? With everything to lose, this idiot's stealing crab legs from Publix Super Market.

That's god awful decision making.

No back to sexual assault, remember Cecil Collins? Had allegations made against him in college. Like Winston, nothing's really done. Then two years later Collins on a 15yr bid.


Look, the Dolphins image is tarnished enough. Of all teams, Dolphins can not take a player accused of rape, later to find he really is a rapist after drafting him. The crab leg incident seems small. But it could be huge in determining Winston's decision making behavior.

Also opens cracks in the door his alleged rape victim just may have been telling the truth.


Cam newton is one dumb fukk and stole laptops at Florida.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | April 30, 2014 at 04:07 PM

At least it wasn't after winning the Heisman trophy. So your post proves you're one dumb fukk too. :)


By the way, I really like one SS in this draft... Deone Buccanon of Wash St.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | April 30, 2014 at 04:05 PM

Agreed! Interesting player that went from potntial late #1 to early #2 that some now have in the 3rd. Has the size and a hard hitter from what I've seen on tape. I just hate trumpeting up a player that I never actually saw play and down here we get zero exposure to Wash St. The Combines and measurables are great and help inmensley but at the end of the day I base my gut feeling on what I watch during games and the reason you see me plugging alot of SEC,ACC & Big-12 kids.

Winston now seems likely to spend more time in prison than as a NFL quarterback.

Maybe he can become a franchise qb with "THE MEAN MACHINE". Seems that's where he's headed.


2. The player should be every bit deserving of their grade and not simply the next guy dwn the list to fill a need.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | April 30, 2014 at 04:05 PM

I don't advocate the next guy down the list defeatest mentality just feel that Su'a-Filo is an excellent selection in trade down Rd-1 allowing the RT spot to get addressed with additional 2 while adding a Big WR like J.Matthews or M.Bryant as well in Top-2 Rds. At least that's my wish list and as far as the RT you know I've been the one plugging JuWaun James all along! If these are our Top-3 selections in the draft to me we've already improved with guys I see helping from jump St.!


Sam I Am,

I agree with everything you have posted on Winston. However, I still think there will be enough NFL teams that will look the other way to get a talented QB and sell tickets. My personal opinion is that the Rape Case needs to be re-opened and he should be suspended from FSU football until his name can be cleared. But FSU wont. too much $$ at stake.

So it would seem that the Dolphins like exactly the same players every other team likes at the same positions.

As always, this is a marvelously informative and illuminating blog.

Goodnight everyone.

Sam,

I heard the Winston thing this morning on the radio on my way into the Office and apparently he ordered the Crab Legs at the Deli Dept. in a Publix then walked around the store with his shopping cart buying groceries while he ate them. Juvenile action! He apparently forgot everybody in Tallahasee knows who he is and that there was a Big possibility that all eyes were on him. When he approached the counter he dumped the box in a waste basket and was allowed to walk out of the store before being apprehended. He wasn't arrested just cited for petty theft and if he puts up anything like last Yrs. numbers nobody will remember come April 2015.

They should pay those kids. They're starving lol.

We have a ton of needs, just some more urgent than other. Jeff Ireland left a very leaky ship.

On offense, I still believe first priority is to get Tannehill a real running game. That requires a real rb. Not gambling 3rd rd or later you get the right guy.

We got Albert. Chances are, Tannehill's protection wont be as terrible as last year's even if they tried to be that terrible again. Then, if Tannehill really has shown great improvement in the pass pocket:

"That eliminates at least 10 qb sacks from 2013 alone".

I'm telling you guys, Tannehill isn't near ready to lead an offense withouta DOMINANT styled rb. The best in the draft is Carlos Hyde. Even the socalled experts on Espn are comparing him to Eddie Lacy.

They don't give a damn what Dashi thinks, so, why should you? How many gm interviews has Dashi done?

Posted by: NeMo | April 30, 2014 at 04:14 PM

I believe we have a F.S. (as a matter of fact 2!) in R.Jones and L.Delams were looking at S.S. were Clemmons blew chunks in 2012 and Jones fell off the radar (In a move by Coyle I questioned all Yr.) moving over in 2013. I see 2 F.S.'s in the Top-2 candidates with Dix and Pryor. I like C.Loston in Middle Rds saw him play some and he's a thumper love the tape and size/speed combo on Buchanon although didn't see him at all.

I am aware of the 49ers signing Bethea but don't see him as a wash for Whittner (not even close) Older player whose more Cover-2 fraud than the Lott type short centerfielder that Whittner was drafted by Cover-2 Coach in Dungy. I think Reid might be the one at S.S. when looking at the move in all honesty.

I saw plenty of TJ McDonald and loved this kid at USC also a Big Fan of his Dad who along with Lott and Atwater was the best of the best in the ERA. You just never hear about Tim because bulk of career was lot in Az. before joining 95 S.F. SB team.

SAM,

Please put your head down for 15 minutes and think about chickens.


They don't give a damn what Dashi thinks, so, why should you? How many gm interviews has Dashi done?

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 30, 2014 at 04:50 PM

I come here to debate with other hardcore fans of the game not trash people for the sake of it as some do. That said I couldn't disagree more with Dashi on Hyde either who I saw play quite a bit las Yr. His performace in the OB Classic alone carrying the team told you what you needed to know. I also like J.Hill alot another Big RB I watched truck in the SEC. He though has the Rape stigma you mention and I think after seeing what happened with the very (supposed) squeeky clean Darren Sharper this is an issue right now very much in the for-front!


Maybe he can become a franchise qb with "THE MEAN MACHINE". Seems that's where he's headed.

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 30, 2014 at 04:25 PM

The Burt Reynolds version, please!

IMO, even signing top fa's is only a 2-3yr band aide on the "real problem". Fa signings only buy you a little time to correcty fix the problem, which is through the draft.

Most players are 28yrs old by the time they are signed in fa. So, theyre already approaching the backend of their career. They are not for building teams. They better fit teams a piece or two away from seriously competing for a championships.

Its impossible to build thru free agency. Just for placing the finishing touches on a championship run. Or simple band aid until correctly fixing a problem.

Bodine

Get a grip man! How can you call a think none sense where you can not present FACTS to back up your GUESS? How can you bet on something that can not be authenticated. This is called a "fool's bet".

What, are you going to force everyone that come into the stadium to show ID or driver license? Good fukkin luck with that. :)

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 29, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Sam, first of all chill out, it's just a blog. Secondly, you've presented NO FACTS yourself, just assumptions and false ideas....things have changed since 40 years ago, time for you to get with the program, no? The vast majority of those fans moved north decades ago.

The stadium is just south of the Broward border as it is. On top of that, FACT is, the vast majority of North East transplants are in Broward and Palm Beach. Fort Lauderdale is NY south. The middle/upper classe is larger in Broward/Palm Beach than it is in run down 3rd world Miami...and that is a fact too.

Take a pill dude...and pay attention to how many fool's bets you make...

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 30, 2014 at 04:59 PM

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Now Sam I'm not usually critical but that post kinda goes without saying doesn't it?

Btw you guys got me chuckling to myself a little thinking about Winston walking around Publix and scarfing down those crablegs.

He must be an expert crableg eater. I struggle sitting at a table and eating them with utensils.

Posted by: fin4life | April 30, 2014 at 04:56 PM


Fin4

I know virtually nothing about the LSU rb Jeremy Hill. However, it scares hell out of me drafting a rb by committee after Ronnie Brown.

Like Ronnie Brown, Jeremy Hill wasn't a true starter with his team either. That scares hell out of me.

We took Brown #3 overall in a nearly identical situation. Brown was the big physical rb in the SEC that did not translate well in the NFL. We've been there, done that and got the booby-prize.

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | April 30, 2014 at 05:07 PM


Me too. I haven't a clue how Winston pulled that one off! :)

Look the approach many of you are taking is silly. That includes you Mando. You guys suffer from Goldilocks syndrome. Find a Guard or Tackle in the first round and draft the guy..,no is going to be perfect. It's really dangerous to not understand that we can't gamble on an OL again. Filo or Martin would be great at 19...we aren't going to get a top 10 pick fall to us. Scout the players and make a choice Hickey.


The middle/upper classe is larger in Broward/Palm Beach than it is in run down 3rd world Miami...and that is a fact too.

Take a pill dude...and pay attention to how many fool's bets you make...

Posted by: Bodine | April 30, 2014 at 05:03 PM

Like you said alot of N.E. transplants in your County and North Broward and the reason you don't need to Dolphins given your already Jets, Pats fans. I hate to break it you though I don't think you've seen the amount of Construction going on (Condo's) in the Downtown Miami area. It's completely altering the skyline in the area headed N.E. into Biscayne.

The lower crime ridden improvished sections of Downtown/Overtown and Biscayne Blvd. are all being relocated into Broward. Your slowly but surely accumulating our most crime infested sections most notably in the stretch right outside Hollywood before entering Ft. Lauderdale. You'd really have to be blind to miss it! The amount of housing Lennar is putting up going West of the City towards the Tamiami Trail to Naples is staggering!

You keep harping on this being a 3rd world Cow town these days which tells me a thing or 2 about you and your beliefs aside from the ignorance in the statement. In Miami Dade from Krome Ave. towards Homestead you do have a large 3rd World Illegal pop. there to work the farms but not many more than the domestics working out of your homes in your Counties.

The largest Pop. to resently enter Dade are Venezuelan with pockets full of Petro Dollars which have turned Doral into something to see and before you get your ignorance going let me tell you that most Venezuelans are off European descent (Italian,Spanish and Portuguese) as well. The reason they're female pop is considered one of the most beautiful on the planet.

It was clear that, if Gruden had a pick in this draft, he'd take Manziel.

“I don't have any concerns. I'm a Manziel -- I don't know what the word I should use is -- advocate, proponent. I want Manziel. I realize he's under six feet tall. Maybe he can't see over the line. We blew that theory in the water last year with (Russell) Wilson and (Drew) Brees.

“I know he can learn. I spent two days with him, and I know he wants to learn. He had four different offensive coordinators at Texas A&M. He had two different head coaches. It didn't matter. He adapted and did extremely well. This is the first Heisman Trophy winner as a freshman. In two years at Texas A&M, he had the most productive back-to-back seasons in SEC history. I don't know what you want him to do. He threw for eight thousand, ran for two thousand, he has 93 touchdowns. All I know is, I want Manziel.”

Take a look at Matt Ryan. Made the playoffs and even the NFC Championship game with a serious running game. Then in 2013, the running game died and so did the pass rush. Now, only 1 yr later, they are drafting 6th overall.

We have a pass rush, need a deadly serious run game for Tannehill, or 2015 we'll be talking his replacement.

WE TOO eH,HICKEY JUST DO IT eH,SAVE THE DOLPHINS from Tpathetic QB play eH?

Posted by: fin4life | April 30, 2014 at 05:24 PM


Glad you took this guy to school. Just doubt he'll do his homework. I would never be a fan of the Palm Beach Dolphins. I'm sure many Miamians feel the same as I do.

Posted by: fin4life | April 30, 2014 at 05:24 PM


Glad you took this kid to school, but, we still can not make him do his homework. Its probably lunch and home for him.

I would never root for the Palm Beach Dolphins. Im sure many Miamians would feel the same way too.

He lead the offense last year you twit. Without RT, zero offense last year.

Would that be the same Gruden who left the Bucs in a total shambles by the time he was fired? The same Gruden who hasn't been offered a single Head Coaching job since then?

Mr Football is a TD machine!! 93 TD's!

"You guys aren't paying attention to the way the 49ers and Seahawks have shifted the NFL landscape!"

fin4life, the Seahawks just hired Jeff Ireland to be a draft consultant to the team. I'm starting to have my doubts, they may have lucked into their position.

fin4, news flash, most North and South Americans are of European descent. Venezuelans? Try Westin too up here in Broward, they are wealthy and have their own banks.


You are right about Hollywood, its one of the worst parts of Broward, and no surprise, the southern most part! Yet another reason the move up the the next county line makes so much more sense. Tell me another thing? Who is moving into all these new developments? Foreigners from countries that have little to no interest in American football.

Last....I use the word foreigners only to mean people from another country, so don't try to imply I have some bias. I've been a foreigner too and I've dated my share of foreign ladies..it's all good!

Mimi-Dade County remains one of the poorest and least educated urban areas in the country. That is not opinion, it is FACT.

The demographics of Dade are a relatively small very wealthy elite (many of whom only live there part-time), an immense underclass with a large percentage of undocumented, unskilled immigrants, and a nearly non-existent middle class.

A clueless putz,Gruden was offered dozens of HC positions in the NFL and college ranks, You should get out more eH?


I would never root for the Palm Beach Dolphins. Im sure many Miamians would feel the same way too.

Posted by: SAM I AM | April 30, 2014 at 05:39 PM

Neither would I but don't worry about it a great deal given the NFL isn't interested in losing Miami to Palm Beach anyway.

On your post about the RB Pos. I would tent to agree just thought I'd add that unless your drafting the next AP (May come along in aother decade or 2) everybody is essentially drafting a RB to play in a committee. I doubt Hill goes before the 3rd and Hyde could very well be there at our 2nd Rd pick. In the past these guys would have carried 1st Rd grades but today with neither seen as a 30 carry a game player they become part timers who drop. If a player these days would not play RB at all! To much of a pounding for the thankless NFL cash on 1st contract.

ross would love to move them to london and if they keep the stadium being mostly empty they will

If the Dolphins wanted to target their biggest potential pool of ticket-buyers they WOULD relocate to Ft. Lauderdale or even Boca. That's where the disposable income is greater and the largest number of people who might actually go to games are located.

Those wealthy Venezuelans? They're not going to the games and aren't about to start. Let's be real.

Only about 20% of the Dolphins CURRENT season-ticket base comes from south of the Dade/Broward line.

Doesn't that tell you plenty?

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