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Players Dolphins like: Guard edition

NFL teams have drafted 12 guards in the first round since 2000.

So 14 drafts have netted a dozen first round guards and those relatively modest numbers have nearly doubled the past two drafts when five guards were picked in the first round.

Of those 12 first-round guards, only four have become multiple Pro Bowl players -- Mike Iupati, Ben Grubbs, Steve Hutchinson and Logan Mankins.

NFL teams ignored the guard position in the first round altogether in 2000, 2003, 2004, 2008, and 2009 and had only one first-round guard picked in 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2010 and 2011 when the Eagles picked Danny Watkins. Yeah, that Danny Watkins.

(By the way, the Dolphins picked Vernon Carey in 2003 but I think we all know he was a tackle most of his career and the only reason he played guard early in his career was short-sighted coaching decisions).

The point is with only one true guard, UCLA's Xavier Su'a-Filo, showing enough promise to suggest value in the first round, it stands to reason the Dolphins are probably not going to fill their need for a guard in the first round.

No source. Just a hunch.

But in later rounds? Maybe the third or on the third day of the draft? Fans should hope so because the team has a definite need at the position and, my opinion, it would be a mistake to bank on the guard possibilities currently on the roster -- outside of Shelley Smith who was signed as a free agent to be a starter -- to find another starter.

So who and what are the possibilities? Today we continue our look at the players the Dolphins have shown interest in and focus on guards.

Consider:

G  Joel Bitonio Nevada: He's 6-4 and 302 and played some tackle in college but several NFL teams see him as a guard. He's likely a second round pick, probably before the Dolphins pick in that round at No. 50. That might be too early for Miami to trade up to. Trade back in the first and get him and and another pick?

G Kadeem Edwards Tennessee State: He's 6-4 and 308, extremely long arms (34 1/2) but needs to improve his upper and lower body strength, projected third day of draft player.

G Jon Halapio  Florida: He's 6-4 and 323, projected round 4-5.

G Brandon Linder  Miami: He's 6-6 and 311, better suited for zone blocking than man, which obviously is in the Dolphins wheelhouse. Here's the thing, though, the Miami offensive line that was so big and so experienced the past two years was also something of a dud. Projected 3-4 rounder.

G Spencer Long  Nebraska: He's 6-5 and 320 and is the best OL prospect on team but had reconstructive knee surgery in October. He may not be ready for training camp, which makes him a later-round possibility. I got to say, the Dolphins need to start drafting healthy players because drafting the ailing players was a tremendous bomb last year.

G-OT Zack Martin  Notre Dame: He's 6-4 and 308 and is a very solid right tackle candidate but some teams think he needs to project as guard. That's fine, except the kid would rather play tackle and his experience at guard is comparatively limited. "Clean" player. Ready to start. Can fill in at RT in a pinch.

G Justin McCray UCF: He's 6-3 and 321, local kid from Southridge High School, was selected first-team All-American Conference. Third round type.

G Jordan McCray UCF: He's 6-2 and 322, the twin to Justin, also first-team All-American Conference pick, slightly stronger than his brother and better punch, not quite as quick. Third round type.

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Posted by: I Know My Own City | April 30, 2014 at 05:47 PM

Total lies. No wonder you used an anonymous name.

Miami and West Palm are considered part of the same metropolitan statistical area and are also considered one TV market as far as the NFL is concerned.

Moving the franchise anywhere in the tri-county area would not be controversial nor would it even require league approval.

Also, South Florida is now the 4th or 5th biggest market in the country. The Dolphins are NOT moving outside it...not to LA or London or anywhere else. That's become a tedious mantra without an pounce of substance or intelligence behind it.

Gruden did leave the Bucs in a bit of a mess though. He was a little full of himself and his offense.

He's much better than we've had lately though. As a head coach I would prefer him run the whole show and hire an OC.

He tends to focus only on offense.

South Carolina and Alaska are the least educated poorest areas of the country. S Florida rocks.

gruden wont coach again. like cowher time as passed them by

OSCAR,I MEAN DUSTY,VERMIEL CAME BACK WITH A FRESH NEW MIND SET AND HOW DID THAT work out for him eH?

Here are the likely franchise relocations:

The Rams will almost certainly return to Los Angeles. Their owner even purchased land for a potential stadium out there recently. They can also escape their lease in St. Louis as soon as next season. So say hello (again) to the Los Angeles Rams.

The Chargers may well join them there as an AFC counterpart. They have been unable to get anything done with a new facility in San Diego and as it would only be a move a couple of hours north would face little opposition.

Raiders a lesser possibility.

London? Either an expansion team or possibly the Jaguars...whose owner already has extensive business interests there.

Toronto? Maybe the Bills (as everyone knows) but there is a LOT of mounting opposition already forming to keep them in Buffalo. Jury is out.

The Dolphins are not moving anywhere.

Period.

Moving the franchise anywhere in the tri-county area would not be controversial nor would it even require league approval.


Posted by: I Know My Own City | April 30, 2014 at 05:56 PM


One of many good points you've made. Candlestick Park was never in SF, nor is their new stadium which is even MUCH further away, yet they are still the SF 9'rs

exactly. THE BARBIES AREN'T GOING ANY WHERE AS usual eH? JAJAJAJAAJJ eH?

Manziel would be bigger Than D. Beckham overseas. FACT eH?

Monte, the fact is that Miami is one of the most poorly educated big cities in the country. Much lower rates of college (and even High School) graduates than the average.

There are many reasons for that, but it doesn't change the facts whether you like them or not.

OK FINFANS

READY FOR THE POLL OF THE DAY?

WHICH IS BETTER?

BOTH AT TEXAS A&M

A) JOHNNY MANZIEL 93 TDs IN 2 YEARS 46.5/YR

OR

B) RYAN TANNEHILL 42 TDs IN 4 YEARS 10.5/YR

Bodine, correct.

If the Dolphins ever moved to, say, Boca they would still no doubt retain the name Miami Dolphins...just as the 49ers name is staying the same despite moving about the same distance from San Francisco (and much closer to San Jose, actually)

Posted by: I Know My Own City | April 30, 2014 at 06:06 PM

Link?

If the dolphins stay at picks 19 and 50, and they want to shore up the OL, I would draft Sua Filo at 19 and juwann James at 50.

Happy to oblige, Monte. Give me a minute and I will provide one. I do not make things up.

B

JAJAJAJAJAJA eH?

just make sure u get jean baptiste and a murray in this draft

Here you go, Monte. Current stats from the US Census. This is for the combined metro area (you'll find Miami down there at #61)

I can also find the numbers for ONLY Miami which ill rank even lower if you'd like me to.


1 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 46.8% 22.1% +24.7%
2 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 45.3% 19.3% +26.1%
3 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT 44.0% 17.6% +26.4%
4 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 43.4% 16.8% +26.5%
5 Madison, WI 43.3% 20.0% +23.3%
6 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 43.0% 14.2% +28.8%
7 Raleigh-Cary, NC 41.0% 13.4% +27.7%
8 Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX 39.4% 16.3% +23.0%
9 Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO 38.2% 16.2% +22.0%
10 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 37.9% 14.1% +23.9%
11 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 37.0% 14.7% +22.3%
12 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 36.0% 12.4% +23.5%
13 Provo-Orem, UT 35.2% 15.8% +19.5%
14 Baltimore-Towson, MD 35.1% 10.3% +24.8%
15 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 34.6% 13.2% +21.3%
16 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 34.1% 12.0% +22.1%
Colorado Springs, CO 34.1% 16.4% +17.7%
18 Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 34.0% 11.2% +22.7%
19 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 33.7% 14.0% +19.8%
20 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY 33.2% 12.4% +20.8%
21 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 33.1% 10.9% +22.2%
22 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA 33.0% 10.9% +22.1%
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 33.0% 12.5% +20.4%
Rochester, NY 33.0% 13.3% +19.6%
25 Worcester, MA 32.7% 8.9% +23.8%
26 Columbus, OH 32.5% 12.3% +20.3%
Kansas City, MO-KS 32.5% 11.1% +21.4%
28 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC 32.2% 9.7% +22.4%
29 Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA 32.0% 11.5% +20.5%
30 Charleston-North Charleston-Summerville, SC 31.9% 9.9% +22.0%
Honolulu, HI 31.9% 15.5% +16.3%
32 New Haven-Milford, CT 31.8% 11.7% +20.1%
33 Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 31.7% 11.2% +20.6%
Richmond, VA 31.7% 10.9% +20.8%
35 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 31.1% 12.9% +18.2%
36 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 31.0% 13.2% +17.7%
37 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY 30.9% 12.0% +18.9%
38 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA 30.8% 12.3% +18.5%
39 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 30.7% 10.4% +20.3%
40 Ogden-Clearfield, UT 30.1% 12.7% +17.5%
41 Tucson, AZ 30.0% 15.7% +14.3%
42 St. Louis, MO-IL 29.9% 9.7% +20.2%
43 Columbia, SC 29.8% 13.1% +16.7%
44 Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN 29.7% 9.7% +20.0%
45 Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA 29.4% 13.2% +16.3%
46 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 29.3% 10.0% +19.3%
Albuquerque, NM 29.3% 15.4% +13.8%
48 Syracuse, NY 29.2% 13.2% +16.0%
49 Springfield, MA 29.1% 10.5% +18.6%
Pittsburgh, PA 29.1% 9.1% +20.0%
51 Salt Lake City, UT 29.0% 14.7% +14.3%
52 Knoxville, TN 28.8% 10.7% +18.1%
53 Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA 28.7% 9.4% +19.3%
54 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 28.5% 9.9% +18.6%
Akron, OH 28.5% 10.8% +17.8%
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA 28.5% 8.3% +20.2%
57 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 28.4% 13.4% +15.0%
58 Boise City-Nampa, ID 28.3% 11.4% +17.0%
Jackson, MS 28.3% 12.2% +16.1%
Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 28.3% 9.6% +18.7%
61 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 28.1% 10.7% +17.4%

THAT'S SICK,93 FREAKING TD's eH?

That's for the percentage of college graduates, by the way.

Poor Monte, lol

Thats not even half the list. Show the rest of it. So Miami is 61 out of 188. Nothing wrong there at all.

oscar,
I called your office today and I told the receptionist I was Carlos Hyde from Columbus, OH.
Did she give you the message?

Incorrect, Monte.

The list I provided is the share of residents with college degrees in the 100 largest metro areas, based on data from the Brookings Metropolitan Policy Program.

I will now find the data for Miami itself (excluding Broward and Palm Beach).

You will regret wanting to know.

And here you go, Monte. From bizjournal's individual city rankings in regards to education levels:

"Not all results of the Bizjournals.com analysis are positive. The study found that Miami has the lowest brainpower of any large community. Just 16 percent of Miami's adults have earned bachelor's degrees, which is 31 percentage points behind Seattle's rate."

Link here: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13278190/ns/business-local_business/t/smartest-city-us-its-seattle/#.U2F8Ov1OWic

This is the most informative blog on the planet thanks to Armando amassing the cyber intelligence needed to erase the STUPID HOMERS input and the STUPID HOMERS KNOW WHO THEY ARE eH? JAJAJAJAJAJAJA eH?

Sam? No comment now?

2+2 = 3

Oscar, are you up yet eH?


Posted by: SAM I AM | April 30, 2014 at 03:47 PM

agree his stock is going down...a lot of teams won't even look at him...

I LIKE FOTEBALL I SEE ON TV

Get a grip man! How can you call a think none sense where you can not present FACTS to back up your GUESS? How can you bet on something that can not be authenticated. This is called a "fool's bet".


Posted by: SAM I AM | April 29, 2014 at 11:39 PM


Sam, remember that reply to me a little better now? The facts have been confirmed. If you want to attack me or debate me right or wrong that is fine. Running away isn't.

WHO DOPINS PLAY IN FOTE BALL THIS YEARS?? I WANT SEE ON TV! I HAVE MOK DRAFT FOR YOU TWO!!!

Is someone actually trying to argue the Miami is a well educated city?!?

I LIVE down here and trust me, it is definitely NOT.

More like Air Head Central.

Florida has been very low in education throughout it's history. The fact that the main industry here is tourism, it doesn't offer many opportunities for the higher educated people. Much of the work here is the service sector, hotels, restaurants, tittee bars, easily accommodated by undereducated local boozers and druggies and illegal immigrants. You have a base of health care, lawyers, high tech types, but a much smaller percentage than most areas.

I stand by my guns. Build a state of the art, high tech luxury stadium near the Broward/Palm Beach border and it will be better for the owner, the team and its fans.

I am not at all convinced Manziel won't be the first pick in the draft. Houston needs a QB in the worst way. If he turns out to be a star and they pass on him how many people in Houston will ever forgive O'Brien? QB is the most important position on the field and that alone tells me I would draft Manziel over Clowney. What are they going to hope for someone to fall to the second round? Just like our situation with the OL. Who's going to be left if wait until pick #50 ?

It is Us Early Cubans who put Miami into gear. Most of Us came from a much bigger and developed City with the exact Capitalistic mind as here. First thing We did here was buy land, huge tracts at ridiculous cheap prices. All that land where International Mall and Dolphins Mall are, belong or used to belong to Cubans(and I know who). Developers along Biscayne, where AAA is, the majority were or are all Cuban. We took advantage of Virgin Territory.

Is someone actually trying to argue the Miami is a well educated city?!?

I LIVE down here and trust me, it is definitely NOT.

More like Air Head Central.

Posted by: brad305 | April 30, 2014 at 07:13 PM

Sam, 3 locals are trying to tell you that you are living 40 years in the past.....

Of course, there are light years in between us Early Cubans and the New Cubans that are arriving here by the planefuls every day in terms of Education and acquisition Power.

something I just can't understand they say Martin has short arms at 32 7/8 inches? but Armondo writes this about a guy with 34 1/2 inch arms?

"G Kadeem Edwards Tennessee State: He's 6-4 and 308, extremely long arms (34 1/2) but needs to improve his upper and lower body strength, projected third day of draft player"

Is an inch and a half that big a deal?

Even Armando and others in this Blog that live here in Miami have not had extensive contact with Us kind of Cubans. We probably would get bored by their company.

Into "gear," Oscar? If by "gear" you mean Miami now being one of the poorest and least-educated cites in America then yes, great job indeed!

Sorry, but I live here and know the whole 'Cuban Economic Miracle' is a delusional myth that an entire generation has latched onto because the actual facts are just too uncomfortable to face.

I do retain hope that younger Cuban-AMERICANS will not be so wedded to falsehoods and see Miami for what it actually IS rather than the comically inflated version your generation has propogated for so many decades.

Posted by: Bad Phans | April 30, 2014 at 07:14 PM

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Reports are they are still undecided on him ad Clowney.

Your right though usually a new coach wants to get his QB first.

Still guys like Clowney don't come along too often and QB's are pretty deep in this draft.

Bridgewater may not go until the 2nd and there is still Savage, Mettenberger, Murray and others who will be available after the 1st.

Oscar, Miami was a far nicer city in the 60's. Are you telling me you are proud of Little Havana and Hialeah?

Posted by: Bodine | April 30, 2014 at 07:15 PM

He hasn't been out of the institution since then.

Another thing, Oscar.

In 1959, when those "special" Cubans you are speaking of began to arrive in Miami, Dade County was ALREADY approaching a million residents and was seeing a growth rate higher than any period since then. Those are FACTS.

Also factual is that nearly EVERY OTHER SUNBELT CITY equaled or (in most cases) EXCEEDED the growth rate in Miami during subsequent decades, and continues to do so.

Why is it that people like you so conveniently omit these FACTS? Does reality alter the fairy tale too much?

I congratulate ANYONE who made a success of themselves, particularly if they did it after having to re-establish themselves in another county.

But Basta Ya already with this crap that Miami was somehow "rescued" by that first wave of Cubans.

I have no doubt you actually believe it since you have been conditioned to believe it for decades. But it is a load of crap.

fin4, news flash, most North and South Americans are of European descent. Venezuelans? Try Westin too up here in Broward, they are wealthy and have their own banks.
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No offense meant but you used the term 3rd World in multiple posts. Leading me to believe you couldn't distinguish between Central and South America. You also speak as if there were no Illegal live in domestic employees in Broward and Palm Beach. As a matter of fact the crackdown on the practice by Law Enforcement started in your area after they cleaned up Homestead's farming area back in 06.
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You are right about Hollywood, its one of the worst parts of Broward, and no surprise, the southern most part! Yet another reason the move up the the next county line makes so much more sense. Tell me another thing? Who is moving into all these new developments? Foreigners from countries that have little to no interest in American football.

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Again you understand little about our area further South. Your basing your opinion on a migration the City hasn't seen since the 80's. The ones moving into the Downtown high rises are the young up and coming Miami. Those of us (being I'm one) who grew up in the suburbs of Kendall, South Miami and Cutler Bay area who like the idea of the more Urban setting.

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Last....I use the word foreigners only to mean people from another country, so don't try to imply I have some bias. I've been a foreigner too and I've dated my share of foreign ladies..it's all good!

Posted by: Bodine | April 30, 2014 at 05:42 PM

I don't doubt you were foreign at some point in your family tree unless your a Native American but again you posted on multiple posts since last night that Miami was 3rd World. This a popular comment by those of Anglo Saxon descent who choose the term to paint the Carribean and South American Communities that have done there fair share of heavy lifting in building this Town since the 70's when it was in fact a Cow Town!!

Public school sucks in South Florida.
Lack of knowledge should be expected.

THE POWERS THAT BE DONT WANT AN EDUCATED SOCIETY.

But it is a load of crap.

Posted by: I Know My Own City | April 30, 2014 at 07:36 PM

You're a load of crap. Thats why your name is anonymous.

Ah, yes, the 70s in Miami when the city still had LOCALLY HEADQUARTERED MULTINATIONALS like Eastern Airlines, Southeast Bank, Ryder Systems, and Burger King (now all either gone or owned by non-local parent companies) that employed tens of thousands of Miamians and gave the city a homegrown corporate presence it has yet to recapture.

Yes, those were the 'Cow Town' days, for sure!

Hi there, Monte.

Sorry things worked out so badly for you with posting the FACTS about education levels in Miami.

But, hey, you were the one that asked!

All you have to do is walk on Calle Ocho and see what Miami is about. That's the reason I left that place. I'm a Cuban Marielito who found that out really fast

I don't get why so many get so caught up in measurables. They are nice but best players in the history of the NFL did not have prototypical measurables. The goldilocks syndrome here in Dolfan land trying to find guys for the OL. One thing the draft has shown us as fact is that many of experts are so off base when it comes to being experts in the draft. Draft Grades? Overdrafting? BPA?

Sweetie, We don't even get along with our own children. They bore Us. Has to be Us, Highly Educated, completely Bi-Cultural and Bi-Lingual with great command of the English and Spanish Languages. Probably you have never met one of Us. We tend not to mingle and only direct you.

Oscar, I've visited here frequently enough to know that your supposed "command" of the English language is comparable to the "command" the captain of the Titanic had moments before hitting the iceberg.

But you try, cupcake.

Florida was just ranked the 18th state in education.

Just out of curiosity, Oscar, that one study I cited earlier (including link) happened to rank Miami DEAD LAST in education levels among big American cities.

Not near the bottom. Not second from last. DEAD LAST.

Now, wouldn't you think a city with the unparalleled blessings of the Cuban Economic Miracle could do a little better than THAT? I mean, how is that even possible with such a stupendous cultural and economic marvel in our midst?

Or maybe--just maybe--you've fallen for the same tired old fable that so many others of your generation so desperately MUST believe in?

Nah. Couldn't be.

Oscar, I've visited here frequently enough to know that your supposed "command" of the English language is comparable to the "command" the captain of the Titanic had moments before hitting the iceberg.

Posted by: I Know My Own City | April 30, 2014 at 07:55 PM

So....he visited? LMFAO!!!! Can he say foot in mouth? HA

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