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The draft picks and their roster consequences

The NFL draft is one week old today and, personally, I'm still digesting all the meat it served up. As you know, no team draft's in a vacuum. There are reasons teams pick certain players and certain positions. Like elections, drafts have consequences.

Today we study those possible consequences.

We look at each pick and follow the intended fallout to see what it means, not only for the position but for other players who were already on the roster.

First round -- RT Ja'Wuan James.

Consquence: This one is easy because it practically guarantees that Miami will get back on track in putting its first-round pick in the starting lineup from the jump. The Dolphins took a detour from that last year with Dion Jordan, but prior to that, six consecutive first-round picks dating back to 2007 had been starters on Day One. James is Miami's starting right tackle on Day One and so we can get past the idea that often-injured Jason Fox will be Miami's starting right tackle. Sure, there will be a competition. That's the right way to do it. But, um, James will win the competition. And if he does not, something went horribly, horribly wrong.

Second round -- WR Jarvis Landry

Consequence: Landry is immediately an option as a slot receiver but he will have to play special teams like the dickens to be active on game days. Here is the reason for the uninitiated: The first three WRs -- Brandon Gibson, Brian Hartline, Mike Wallace -- get their reps on offense. None play special teams. The fourth active WR has to play special teams. Period. This pick suggests the Dolphins will keep five instead of four wide receivers on the roster. Last year Miami kept only four coming out of camp. Or, failing that, one of last year's four -- Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Rishard Matthews -- is gone. Well, yes, one of the last year's four is gone. As I've explained to you previously, Matthews' days with the Dolphins are numbered. Despite his career high 41 catches for 448 yards and two touchdowns a season ago, Matthews is not a favorite of the coaching staff, particularly head coach Joe Philbin. My column explains why. Because Landry is a second round pick, he is almost guaranteed of making the team. So that means veterans such as Armon Binns, Kevin Cone, and Damien Williams are already at a numbers-game disadvantage -- again, unless the club goes with five receivers on the roster instead of four.

Third round -- G Billy Turner

Consequence: The Dolphins have been undecided about which side (left guard or right guard) Shelley Smith will play. The Dolphins have been undecided about which position (guard or tackle) Dallas Thomas will play. Well, Turner not only looks like a guard to me but feels like a left guard. The fact he's a rookie also suggests sandwiching him between veterans Branden Albert (LT) and Mike Pouncey (C) might be a better idea than putting him next to fellow rookie Ja'Wuan James. But here's the ripple effects of that: Dallas Thomas now becomes more valuable to the Dolphis as a right tackle because he can compete with Jason Fox for the backup role. Or he becomes valuable as a swing G/T. If he's the backup RT, Fox suddenly becomes expendable. If he's the swing G/T, that suddenly puts Nate Garner's roster chances on the line, pardon the pun. Turner on the roster means David Arkin, Thomas, Fox, and Garner are in a scramble for a roster spot.

[Peanut gallery: But Mando, you didn't mention Sam Brenner ... Isn't his spot on the line as well?]

Thanks for bringing that up, gallery. In fact, the Dolphins are viewing Brenner as a C/G option. And because center is a big part of that option, perhaps the biggest part, he becomes valuable because Mike Pouncey still faces NFL sanctions for his participation in last year's harassment scandal. If Pouncey misses time, Brenner is likely the starting center.

Fourth round -- CB Walt Aikens

Consequence: The Dolphins committed two early draft picks to the CB position a year ago when they drafted Jamar Taylor in the second round and Will Davis in the third round. The fact they felt a need to go cornerback so high speaks highly of what they think of Aikens but also suggests they are hedging their bet on either Taylor or Davis -- particularly after they signed Cortland Finnegan in free agency. By the way, Don Jones had an awful draft. Not only did he get caught up in the Michael Sam issue, but if Aikens is a good special teams player he threatens Jones's roster spot. Veteran Jalil Brown also cannot be thrilled.

Fifth round -- TE Arthur Lynch

Consequence: This one really, really interests me. At first I viewed Lynch as another Jeron Mastrud -- a role player whose role is an in-line blocking TE grunt. But the more I talk to people about Lynch, the more I hear he's an underrated pass catching threat as well. No, he's not fast. He's not been dynamic in college. But he's got possibilities. And that should worry a number of guys on the roster. Charles Clay is not one of those. He's just been picked as one of the NFL's Top 100 players by a voting of his peers. (The vote means nothing other than it shows respect for Clay but at the point he's ranked ahead of Dallas TE Jason Witten, the vote loses credibility). Anyway, Lynch's addition should worry Michael Egnew. This kid has basically been on scholarship for two years because he was a third-round pick in 2012. But that was a different GM and a different coach, in that that Philbin could afford to carry some dead weight on the roster his first couple of years but he's coaching for his life now. His job is on the line in 2013. I don't see another scholarship year for Egnew. This pick also suggests the team is not as enamored with Dion Sims, a fourth-round pick last year, as it seemed. Again, Sims was picked by a different GM and, it must be noted, is pretty much supposed to be the same kind of block-first TE that Lynch is. Meanwhile, if I'm Kyle Miller, I see the writing on the wall. Lynch does not close the door on Jermichael Finley (I don't see that) or a return for Dustin Keller (his reps say he's healthy although he's not ready yet) but I can see only a crack of light through that opening.

Fifth round -- LB Jordan Tripp

Consequence: People who live in the clouds will tell you this means Phillip Wheeler is out because Tripp is going to start at Middle linebacker or weakside linebacker, allowing the Dolphins to move on. Well, Wheeler may indeed be out after 2014 but not necessarily because of Tripp. It would have to do with Wheeler's performance. No, this picks should be ringing in the ears of players such as Jonathan Freeny, Jelani Jenkins, and perhaps even Jason Trusnik. This pick is immediately about special teams. And that is primarily where Freeny, Jenkins and Trusnik make their bones. Trusnik, you should know, is a fine special teams player. But he's going into his eighth season and he's scheduled to cost $1,071,688 on the salary cap. He gets cut, the Dolphins save $855,000.

Sixth round --WR Matt Hazel

Consequence: Unless Hazel is an epiphany that shines suddenly and violently out of pitch darkness, he will have a hard time making this team's 53-man roster because for all his gifts -- he's long and relatively fast -- he simply is not ready to beat out the top 4-5 guys right now. Maybe he gets the rookie scholarship and makes it just because he was drafted. That wouldn't say a lot for Williams and Cone. At worst, Hazel is a practice squad possibility.

Seventh round -- DE Terrence Fede

Consequence: The Dolphins seemed to have more defensive ends than they knew what to do with last year. With Cameron Wake, Olivier Vernon and Derrick Shelby around, there were hardly enough snaps to go around for then-rookie first-round pick Dion Jordan. So how does Fede fit? Who does he beat out? None of them. I suppose he's insurance in case of injury. I suppose he is practice squad material.

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Cooks, would've been the man to allow the team to shed it's heaviest and most inefficient contract.

Tell me that isn't any kind of a need pick?

How does carrying B.Gibson and his $6M contract as a #4 WR, make more sense than keeping R.Matthews and his sub $500k salary for the next couple years. And R.Matthews is a better special teams player.

WR
1- Wallace
2- Hartline
3- Landry
4- Matthews
5- Hazel

Posted by: Dashi | May 15, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Dashi, Because, till injured, IMO Gibson was the most productive wide receiver, overall.
If you want to save bucks, trade or cut Matt Moore, once you've seen what Brock Jensen has.

I have a slight disagreement with Mando regarding Brenner as a possible center in the event Pouncy is suspended. Garner has experience playing there. He's always seemed to at least hold his own when called upon.

It was not worth taking Cooks in the first and then Moses in the second. Sure we would all be happier because we got a nice WR, but, personally, I'd be screaming that it was a wasted pick.

We needed the OL help in the worst way. James automatically makes Tannehill, Miller, and Wallace better (by giving RT17 more time to throw)

IMA, didn't you bring up Fernando Velasco last year?

I believe he's available...

6WR's this season..

Wallace
Hartline
Gibson
Landry
Williams

Matthews or Hazel..have difficulty seeing FO putting Hazel on practice squad, maybe.

MD20, the o line should've been fixed before the draft. You had a tonne of cap to spend. Why spend $5m on a broken down Finnegan. Even though I hate him, wouldn't it be more prudent to resign Clemons and Carroll on the cheap since they were already here and knew the system and didn't hurt you and forget Delmas (who's broken) and Flanagan (who sucks) and use that money to sign a RT?

The rookie camp should really be interesting. There are some UDFA who make you scratch your head as to why they didn't get drafted and a guy like Fede did.

Williams (RB) is one that I'd really like to see open some eyes.

We have so much cap room, why are we cutting a receiver that was producing for us pre-injury. He was a better FA acquisition than Wallace and was definitely worth the money compared to the waste Ellerbe and Wheeler were (see you two after next season, buh bye!)

Give Miami a healthy Gibson and Hartline for the final 2 games and we're in the playoffs.

Why are we cutting any of our WRs? Why not carry 5 into the season? Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Landry, Matthews. As you see, we're going to need them at some point.

Carry 2 RBs. They're awful after our first 2. Clay can be an emergency if both Moreno and Miller go down in one game. (get rid of Thigpen please, our return game has been awful for years with Bess and Thigpen).

Carry one less LB, they're bad too. Carry one less CB, we have an overabundance. Carry one less OL, they're awful anyway.

There is no reason to cut a WR who can produce in order to keep a crappy insurance policy at another position.

great Garn, BB can have him....good luck with that

and geez, forgot about Trusnick and Freeny....my goodness we have alot of crappy/fringe players hanging around....Binns, Matthews, Trusnik....Spitler....Mastrud was already mentioned....Thigpen was mediocre/lousy last year for the most part....we had to re-sign Marlon Moore, which says it all--if nothing else, I hope a few of these and '13s rooks provide higher quality depth at least

One thing for sure, this is a classic:

"Grunt Draft"

Hopefully 2 starting oinemen, a redzone wr, and redzone te wth the 4 of the first 5 picks.

However, this does address two primary issues, as far as "Scoring" last season. Evidenced by only one game the entire season of 30pts or more.

Offensive line and red zone scoring punch.

While also at least adding a little more depth at corner, lb, and possibly de/lb with Fede. This is definitely not a "sexy", but no one can deny it was a very necessary one given our primary weaknesses last season.

With o-line and redzone scoring being a huge bulk of it.

Philbin is likely gone, not the assertive guy you
Want leading an NFL team . Matthews should replace Gibson. Has better hands and isn't coming off an injury

Points on Hazel(gates II?) and Fede question why they were taken. We should have taken Aaron Murray to push Tannehill but they won't admit he may not be the guy

Mark, we tried signing an RT; the only legitimately good RT worth spending money on in FA, but he went back to New Orleans.

This was not a good FA OL class by any means. Strief was our only hope of "solidifying" the OL (Albert, Pouncey, Strief) and not being forced to draft one. Although, even if we got an RT in FA, we probably still would have needed to draft one. Albert isn't getting any younger and we have no OL behind him and Pouncey.

Clueless joe needs to go

Cooks would have been a solid pick if you had gotten stop gap RT in the FA. Had to go O-line or linbacker in rd 1.

and I got nothing against Matthewsf, sorta like him in that underdog role, wasnt terrible and gave good effort...thats all fine, not saying I want to get rid of him....I'd actually keep him as the 5th WR, no question--bit regarding him vs B Gibson, above....c'mon....Gibson is/was alot better and more polished than Matthews, Gibson was actually pretty good....yes, paying him alot more but the talent/readiness is not even close

I would have preferred Jace Amaro in the 2nd round....and am quite livid that the Jests got him.....that would have solved our Red Zone problem right there, but that's not Miami's system. Rarely do we run 2 TEs and when we do the defense knows we're running.

Landry fits our spread offense. He may have been a reach (by like 20 picks at most?) but he fit our system, so why risk trying to take him lower

Armando has reported several times now that Rishard is a slow learn, basically too dumb for football, and Philbin doesn't like him.

The consequences of this draft is one thing for all the players.

Put up or dont let the door hit you in the butt. I question the ability of an NFL team to work with squeaky clean guys. I think you need Gladiators who when on the field pop some heads. That normally means guys who have a sort of anger. example Mean Jo Green, could he play today, could Butkus play in todays NFL> I think not. But those are the type of players that win championships.

Its Philbins ship friends, we are going to see if his demeanor can work with grown men in the NFL. We had all better hope or rebuild number five or six is just around the corner.

You guys wanted the Green Bay Packer way. This is it, boring fly under the radar. That is not the old Miami Dolphin way.

Time to sit back, scratch your head, and hope for the best.

Go Dolphins!!

HICKEY SIGNED 2 FA WR'S CONE & RIOS

Why are you not putting those 2 on the list of WR's?

aron Murray to push Tannehill but they won't admit he may not be the guy
Posted by: jl | May 15, 2014 at 04:47 PM


This is a common dumb argument. First of all if you need someone to push you, you have no chance to begin with, Second of all, weak armed frail Murray has no chance to push Tannehill.

I'm a Dolfan stuck in Cowboy country and heard a breakdown of the Cowboy's draft yesterday from a respected local sports writer, Rick Gosselin. He compared the way the Cowboys draft to the way the Raven's draft and I saw a lot of similarities with the Dolphins. Jerry often reaches in the draft to fill a need, (occasionally stepping outside that logic when's completely enamored with a player) and consequently, the team is stuck in mediocrity due to the mediocre talent. Ozzie and the Ravens on the other hand typically try to stick to the board and pick the BPA, even when it doesn't fill a need. I hate the Ravens but you can easily see that the Ravens are perennially in the playoffs and field a high caliber team. Seems like the Dolphins have been doing the same thing for a long time and are therefore stuck in mediocrity and will stay that way until they figure out how to move past drafting for need rather than BPA.

agree that I wouldnt have minded Murray or McCarron or even Boyd in the late rounds--cant imagine they're not as valuable as Hazel and Fede....


Mark, if the Dolphins wanted to bring in a guy to compete for slot WR duties, Cooks was right there.

Posted by: NeMo | May 15, 2014 at 04:35 PM


The problem with this concept is, I believe while also focusing on o-line, Hickey was also focusing on "REDZONE". Our current receiving corps didn't have a great problem moving the chains. Outside of o-line being an obvious problem, our receivers virtually becoming non-existent in the red zone was another great issue.

Red zone happens to be one of Landry's greatest strengths. He also runs great routes and is vey "football savy" in finding holes in the defense.

We already have wr's who can move the football inbetween the 20's. Hickey was looking for a red zone specialist.

IMA, didn't you bring up Fernando Velasco last year?

I believe he's available...

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | May 15, 2014 at 04:41 PM
Yessir, I did Mark. Didn't he sign with the Vikings last season? Can't remember.
As the Fins have that Big 10 center Larsen(?) as an UDFA, ya think they'll work him out first? Certainly a lot cheaper. still, you hate to make Tanny a target again with a rookie sub at center. That's why I figured Garner could hold the fort 4 games. Unless that Kraft tool Goodell adds 2 games for the last stupid Pouncy remark.
GAWD, the Gators matriculate real 1st class citizens, eh?

and Gibson is only signed through 2015 anyway....why cut him, to dump salary?--he'll play this year and next, and will likely move on....and depending on his contract, might be able to let him go after this year, if they want--Gibson aint an issue

Pouncey deserves the games (or the extra games) at this point. Yeah, as a Dolphins fan I'd be disappointed and angry, but if the guy is dumb enough not to learn after sporting a "Free Hernandez" hat. Tweeting to the new rookie "when are we getting our presents" and all the other crap he did that is overlooked because Richie took the brunt of the blame during the bully "saga" then he deserves the suspension.

How dumb could you seriously be?


I would have preferred Jace Amaro in the 2nd round....and am quite livid that the Jests got him.....that would have solved our Red Zone problem right there, but that's not Miami's system.


Posted by: MiamiD20 | May 15, 2014 at 04:51 PM

Not necessarily. We have to remember our redzone problem was:

"TWO-FOLD"

It existed with both our wr and te corps. Remember, we're in what's now is Bellichik's division. When you're "ONE DIMENSIONAL" any any area, Bellichik will take it away. Then what?

No-no-no...... Just addressing our red zone issues in one area alone, only plays right into the handsof a mastermind defensive genius like Bellichik. xactly why as fans, we are not allowed to do drafts for our teams.

At times we think we know, but, never know what it is that we truly do not know.


Thigpen is my vote as to who gets a cut

He will be replaced by WR D Williams

Also if I'm not mistaken I believe it was Williams in Tennessee who kept K Britt on sidelines

When you look up "dumb" in the dictionary. there's a picture of Mike Pouncey. lol

Sam, wouldn't a taller guy than Landry (whom I like from video and comments) be more what the Fins need as a Red Zone threat?
A healthy Gibson will help, but there's no 6'3" guy, no Graham...unless the new TE from Georgia is a better Fasono. Looking back on Anthony, I think he was a significant loss. he made the best RedZone catch in the last several years...that sideline one.

There might as well be a picture there Shula73, and I don't think this is a case of his football ego and him thinking he's above it all. I think he just doesn't get it. He's dumb.

(or drunk after clubbing for hours as seen in the pictures surrounding the Free Hernandez cap and the "what are my presents" tweet to the rookie)

BTW, MIT, Tim Horton's is the WORST coffee in the Western world. LOL
Right up there with Shi!bucks.
Who drafted the McGill Lineman?

Don Shula wanted intelligent players. Evidently, Ireland didnt consider intelligence.

Writer, I would have liked to have kept Fasano as a backup TE, but with what he's done in KC since leaving us I think we made the right choice signing Keller (and, thus, having Clay start). Clay is younger, a bigger playmaker, and is more versatile than Fasano.

Sam, I agree it would work for us in the Red Zone, but, overall, Amaro would have turned strictly into a Red Zone Tight End luxury pick. Yes he can work well in the middle of the field, but that's what Clay is already here for, we wouldn't have enough snaps for both Clay and Amaro, or space for them 3 plus our 3 WRs on the field at once. Landry helps us over the middle and in the Red Zone, and is probably going to be on Special Teams.

With all that said, if we redid the draft and got Amaro in the 2nd I'd be pretty happy.

ETF we already released Rios


f4l, there were a tonne of teams that needed a RT

We were the only ones who decided to spend a first pick on one after the cupboard went dry.

Pitt, KC, Carolina... for example

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | May 15, 2014 at 03:49 PM

In the post I was talking about the scenario of whether J.James gets picked if Miami had traded down and the only takers (potentially) were K.C. and Az. The Panthers @28 would have still been behind us in a trade from 19 to 27.

Posted by: IMAWriter | May 15, 2014 at 05:11 PM

IMA you are O so right about Tim's coffee!! Better than DD though..

Moses would have been nice in the 2nd or even if we traded back in the first, until he fell apart like Jake Long did with his pectoral and hamstring injury. If he's breaking down now imagine how his body will treat him in 4 years.

wouldn't a taller guy than Landry (whom I like from video and comments) be more what the Fins need as a Red Zone threat?

Posted by: IMAWriter | May 15, 2014 at 05:08 PM


Especially with a QB that lacks accuracy!!

One thing I like about Hickeys Oline picks was his RESOLVE. After going over the potential scenarios that everyone has discussed it's clear those 2 are guys this regime wanted and made sure they got..I like that

Tannehill lacks accuracy and a good deep ball, but his intermediate passes are on-point. He can't hit the deep ball and doesn't throw receivers open (though I think we'll see more of that in the next year), but he will hit a 15-30 yard out every time if there is a window for it. (his 2 minute drill is phenomenal)


Why are we cutting any of our WRs? Why not carry 5 into the season? Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Landry, Matthews. As you see, we're going to need them at some point.

Posted by: MiamiD20 | May 15, 2014 at 04:46 PM

There was a fundamental approach issue that went way out of hand when you analyze the 2013 Miami Dolphins. Ireland (needing a LT) trades his leverage for a 3/4 OLB in trade up. This pick must have made little sense to Philbin as he showed by practically shelving the player.When in on pass rush was a factor also when used in pass coverage yet Philbin stuck to his guns!!

The person in charge of the final roster then in turn saddled the H.C. with 4 WR's on the roster in a predominantly pass 1st attack! Given there are 4 and even 5 WR packages in Sherman's O (If you saw his O with G.B. you know this) this must have been a direct slap in the face that fanned the flames with the 2013 rookie snub right after!

I said it then and will repeat that the more you analyze 2013 the more it looks like the H.C. and the G.M. were out to make life difficult for each other! Ireland is to blame however because he brought this man to the Owners attention after he couldn't talk anybody else into working with him after he tossed Sparano under a Bus in the Harbaugh FIASCO!! This reason alone assures he never gets the Gig again IMO!!

Sam, wouldn't a taller guy than Landry (whom I like from video and comments) be more what the Fins need as a Red Zone threat?


Posted by: IMAWriter | May 15, 2014 at 05:08 PM


No.

This hopeless team couldn't even get TD's out of Brandon Marshall

MiamiD20, yep, no doubt Clay is a better receiver and more valuable than Fasano. Just seemed like Tanny could find Fasano in the end zone more than the other guys.

But as was said, the Fins don't use their TE's like the Patsies...basically at that one time, the patsies had THE ultimate weapons with Hernandez and Gronk. Funny how that situation has changed so drastically. Fortunately for the rest of the league.

Garn79, DD is considered Nectar to many here, however it's redeeming virtue is that it is a LOT cheaper than that over-roasted swill at Shi!bucks.

Not sure where you're from, but MIT lives in a city with LOTS of excellent cafes, great baristas, etc. Vancouver and Toronto are major espresso Meccas.
(I roast my own coffee so I'm into that scene)

tanne needs 9 ft receivers

Ireland is to blame however because he brought this man to the Owners attention after he couldn't talk anybody else into working with him after he tossed Sparano under a Bus in the Harbaugh FIASCO!! This reason alone assures he never gets the Gig again IMO!!

Posted by: fin4life | May 15, 2014 at 05:29 PM


Wrong.

The blame is on Ross 100%. When your boss asks you to do something, you do it. Ireland was merely following orders. Ross put him in a fkked up situation.

Posted by: M Sherman | May 15, 2014 at 05:30 PM

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"Mike", his final year with the Fins, as memory recalls, Marshall dropped 5-6 sure TD's, as well as his wife with a good left hand, I believe.

Misbehavior is a way of life in Chicago...no death, no foul. All is good.

Ross is such a idiot owner and cheapskate. Pray for new ownership because this guy is clueless.

(I roast my own coffee so I'm into that scene)

Posted by: IMAWriter | May 15, 2014 at 05:32 PM


Wow you are sooo kewl! Does it help you write and do you wear a cap?

I have on old Miami Dolphin coffee mug for sale. It's genuine! Interested?

IMA I appreciate the cafe scene, all the little honeys throwing innocent glances around!

While I'm not a Starbucks fan per say, I like my Americano's so when I'm Jones'n and nowhere near my reg joint I'll hit it up rather than risk a terrible one elsewhere!

Quad grande(extra shot)

No one decent even wants to work for Ross.


Moses would have been nice in the 2nd or even if we traded back in the first, until he fell apart like Jake Long did with his pectoral and hamstring injury. If he's breaking down now imagine how his body will treat him in 4 years.

Posted by: MiamiD20 | May 15, 2014 at 05:23 PM

The Cavs are an ACC rival of the Canes and they are a physical group up front who use more of a straight ahead power approach. The dolphins are looking to get more agile and athletic up front. The zone scheme they want to use mirrors more what the Broncos had in there SB run with Elway. A smallish group that can pull and run counter stunts at the line. I bet Philbin is a big fan of Alex Gibbs.

We are the least improved team in the division.

Pats Jets Buf all signed stud FA's. Se signed chopped liver.

Now roasting your own beans?? That's pretty cool!! We're definitely on the same wave length as to how to start your day!! My main place is about 10-15 drive but many mornings
I find myself en route, that's a helluva long wait for joe in the am then there the line once you arrive But soo worth it!!

Miami is where coaches enter their final stop as an NFL coach. Never has a HC left the fins and got another NFL HC job.

Philbin is next in line, and soon.

fin4life, as I'm sure you know, the Broncos employed a chop/cut blocking scheme that was the scourge opt the NFL. They got away with it because of Elway love, probably.
There OC ended up at Houston, of course, who also employed that technique, as does the Falcons.
Shanahan gets credit (as he should) for finding RB's in round 7, and UDFA's who get 1800 yards. But ALL of that happened partially because of that blocking technique that is basically no longer allowed.
In it's stead is the NE Patriot's patented "Pick" play, usually in the red zone.

Miami is where coaches enter their final stop as an NFL coach. Never has a HC left the fins and got another NFL HC job.

Philbin is next in line, and soon.

Posted by: Isaac | May 15, 2014 at 05:48 PM

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Actually, isaac, it's the exact opposite. Cam Cameron, Saban, Sporano, Philbin, Wanny, all first timers. Wanny got rehired as an HC. Only Shula and JJ never were HC again, both voluntarily.

Hard to believe Ross chose Jeff Ireland over Jeff Fisher. Actually,its totally mind boggling.


Wrong.

The blame is on Ross 100%. When your boss asks you to do something, you do it. Ireland was merely following orders. Ross put him in a fkked up situation.

Posted by: Scott Land | May 15, 2014 at 05:33 PM

With all due respect up until that point Ireland was seen as an up-n-coming NFL F.O. man. That took place in the 2011 Off-Season and Parcells had just left the team in Oct. of 2010 after putting together the 2010 draft.

"This Yr. we're drafting guys that can play in pads, the fat guys will wait till the 2nd day"

Remember that?? Answering questions regarding interest in drafting Tarrence Cody to replace the retired Jason Furgeson??

Ireland was still the young scout Dir. who found Tony Romo at East. Illi and Miles Austin at Mammouth respectively!

He could have said, "Mr. Ross I believe that would be a big mistake because chances are the media will catch wind of this and we'll lose our Coach anyway along with alientaing potential hires"

There are cases were the new Owner has little clue and you have to guide him through I believe that would have been one such instance. I also believe that around the League that would have only served to enhance the stature of Jeff Ireland and gained him respect were in 2011 jobs opened up like the one Les Snead has in St. Louis for example had Ross been to Pig headed and fired him!

I also don't think around League circles that people respect Steven Ross the Owner a great deal and probably see him more along the lines of bungling baffoon Victor Kiam who Owned the Patriots before Kraft and was famous for his comedy of errors that ended in the joke about Lisa Olson who was sexually harassed by a group of players when at a League function he infamously asked who'd seen more Patriot missles up close Iraqi Army or Olson.

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