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Could DL be next for Hanley Ramirez?

     PHOENIX -- Manager Edwin Rodriguez said that, one way or the other, a decision will be made Friday whether to place Hanley Ramirez on the disabled list. If he's able to play, he'll play. If not, Rodriguez made it sound as though Ramirez might have to go on the DL for the first time in his major league career.

      "If he feels better, he can definitely go (play) Friday with the off day tomorrow, but we don't have the answer," Rodriguez said. "We have to make a decision by Friday because we can't keep going with only one shortstop out there. Pretty soon, we have to make a decision. He says he felt better, but still he's not able to play, not able to pinch-hit or run."

      Just spoke with Ramirez, who said his sore back is feeling better but remains unsure as to when he'll be ready to play. He also said that, except for the takeoff and landing, he'll be standing throughout the 4 1/2-hour flght home to South Florida following tonight's game.

      "It's starting to get loose and I don't want to take a chance and make it worse (by sitting the entire way)," Ramirez said.

    -- Also just walked past pitcher Josh Johnson, who is becoming agitated that we continue to ask about his timetable. But, he replied "don't know" -- without further elaboration -- when I asked when he expects to throw a bullpen session. Johnson has been throwing off flat ground only. Though they haven't ruled it out entirely, the Marlins are all but certain he won't be making the start on June 7 when the Marlins need a fifth guy.

    BEINFEST RESPONSES

    Okay, as promised, a took a couple of your questions and posed them to Larry Beinfest, the Marlins president of baseball operations. It was a group Q&A session in the dugout with other reporters, so I didn't have time to ask all of them. But I chose a select couple, including one received in an email from Matt. StanM. I think your very good ballpark-related questions are more appropriate for David Samson and Claude Delorme, so I'll save those for one of them, if you don't mind. (By the way, Lou, I was a little disappointed -- being from Kentucky -- that you didn't include Henry Clay on your list with Brandeis, Jefferson and Darrow.)

    1) In response to Lou's question about the lack of anyone in the minors to make a spot start in J.J.'s absence, here's how Beinfest responded: "We have people. It's just our comfort level in bringing them up in this situation. We lost Alex Sanabia, which hurt, and (Sean) West was slow geting out of the box, and he's back pitching. But he needs to pitch. (Tom) Koehler and (Elih) Villanueva are just getting their feet wet in Triple A, and Brad Hand has been good in Double A. All those guys can pitch in the big leagues. it's just a matter of do we want to bring them here? Is it the most productive for them, for this team right now, etc? So i think it's a reach to say we don't have people, or it's a major concern. But losing Sanabia and West, who were probably the two closest and have already pitched in the big leagues, has hurt us, yes, in terms of options. You lose two of your closest two pitchers, makes it a little bit tougher. We have options. It's just a matter of how we want to go."

    2) As for Matt's and Lou's question about catcher Kyle Skipworth, here's what Beinfest had to say: "He can hit. It's going to be a little bit slower process with him. We kind of pushed him along (skipping Jupiter) He's shown flashes. You go watch his B.P., it's exciting to watch. I think it's just going to take a little bit longer with him. But the catching has been good. Physically, he looks good. He's big and strong. We're just going to have to be patient with him."

    Thanks for participating. We'll do it again sometime, and I'll put the call out for questions a little sooner than I did today.

     They've closed the roof here at Chase Field, and will keep it closed I have just been informed. Yesterday, they closed it during batting practice before opening it for the game. The ball carries quite a bit more when it's open. We've seen 10 home runs hit in the first two games with it open. Not saying those balls would not have gone out if it had been closed. A few (Upton, Gaby Sanchez) were absolutely crushed. But, 10's a lot.

     LINEUPS:

     Marlins: 1. Chris Coghlan, cf; 2. Omar Infante, 2b; 3. Logan Morrison, lf; 4. Gaby Sanchez, 1b; 5. Greg Dobbs, 3b; 6. Mike Stanton, rf; 7. John Buck, c; 8. Emilio Bonifacio, ss; 9. Javier Vazquez, p.

     D-Backs: 1. Ryan Roberts, 3b; 2. Kelly Johnson, 2b; 3. Justin Upton, rf; 4. Stephen Drew, ss; 5. Chris Young, cf; 6. Miguel Montero, c; 7. Juan Miranda, 1b; 8. Gerardo Parra, lf; 9. Daniel Hudson, p.

     Umpires: HP -- Sam Holbrook; 1B -- Gerry Davis; 2B -- Greg Gibson; 3B -- Todd Tichenor.

  

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hayu

Tommy Hutton tore Lou a new one on email Tuesday, but I'm sure he loved hearing "Lou from Greenville" three or four times on air, even if said in derision.

Glags

Redemption. Ain't it sweet?! Ataboy John Buck.

Glags

Spoke too soon.

Lou Vales

Tommy Hutton could NOT tear a piece of paper.For instance it has been obvious that Hensley has not even GOT UP in certain situations where he would have been warming.Do we hear any speculation from the Pasadena Pacifier? The answer is NO!! His response yesterday that "It's not easy" was really genius. IF it was easy Tommy would have a real job in baseball. NOBODY said it was EASY to have pitchers ready BUT you need to have pitchers READY even when guys get hurt, Well, sadly now they have no recourse but to get some help for the pen. It appears obvious NOW that things have not been right with Clay. Now unless Ceda insulted Edwin's mother in spring training I'm going to assume his near 1.00!!! ERA will be here by Friday morning.

AND I'm getting real sick about the sympathy for them playing short.Nobody is making them play short. SO FIX IT!! Hanley will jerk you around for at least another weeek so retroactively disable his butt and make him think if he wants to play or not. Get Gotay or SOMEONE who is hungry up here. Hell, there are people on the waiver wire EVERY DAY who can outperform Helms and Cousins BUT Helms is good in the clubhouse. What the Hell does that mean. Get a priest, preacher or rabbi or chaplain in there if they need someone to talk to. He will be cheaper than Helms and will probably have more POP in his bat.

This BRAVE, GUTSY team should not have to play shorthanded due to people not being able to determine if they are hurt or not. SOMEBODY make a decision. Somebody read MONEYBALL. Somebody consider pulling off a trade--AND you don't need to wait until September to do that. If we finish 5 games out, we will look back at these games and be sick to our stomachs because I guarantee the games in June count the same.

"Tommy tore Lou a new one", I'll give you the date and the time of when I'm going to be on the radio in Greenville--I'll give you the streaming address and everything you need to listen and I'll show you "tearing someone a new one." The main host and I have been all over picking the Marlins to win this thing and there are probably more fans in Greenville than Broward County.

I'll show you a rant that you would not hear in South florida. It's good to have friends in the business.

Stan M

What a way to lose! The hopper gets him to pop up on a great pitch and it eludes everyone. However, the manager helped in this loss. Vazquez pitched a great game but got tired and threw too many pitches up in the zone late in the 6th inning. Essentially he did what was expected of him but why in the world send him out for the next inning! Was he expecting devine intervention or something? Of course the batter creamed a double! That was a stupid decision in my opinion.

Lou Vales

By the way-----West allowed 11 hits and 7 earned runs in 5 innings tonight in his 3rd start. I have suggested in the past that hopefully Sean has some of his bonus money left to open that bait shop in Louisiana.

Stan M

It was nice that Buck got the homer and a single. Unfortunately, it will delay his inevitable move to the 8th place in the batting order and that's a major negative. Did you folks hear Frank Forte talk about that kid Mattison in AA ball? He has great stats but is a little old for that level. For those of you who missed it, here is a photo of him and his stats are also there. That "thing" under his nose is something else!
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543503

Lou Vales

Stan, great point about the 7th inning.If they knew all along that Clay was hurt someone should be gone.

Samson's Boyfriend

Well Marlins Fans..Team returns home for Friday nite "Bark in the Park " promo which begs to ask,where will Hanley be? on the field or in the stands with the other MUTTS.....Saturday nites "Fab Four Ultimate Tribute" will have Tommy RINGO Hutton joining the Fab Four in his Solo Hit rendition of "It Don't Come Easy,You Know It Don't Come Easy"...How IRONIC...Whaddya think about that Gang???

Lou Vales

Stan,Matt,Samson Glags and ALL others--Are you guys getting a little sick of all this crying about playing short handed?? The reason they are playing short handed is the total surfeit of viable options. They have themselves to blame that they can't bring up a Minor, Teheran, Schaefer.They don't really have anyone worth a Tommy that they can bring up. Sorry!! Now Fix It!!

Lou Vales

Clark, THANK YOU!!! It's good to know that Shipworth looks good coming off the bus.

Samson's Boyfriend

It makes me wonder what the hell is really going on...What are they waiting for? Divine Intervention??? Why is it taking so long to pull the trigger to attempt to fix such glaring problems...It Boggles the Mind that they have let it go this far...It's inexplainable at this point...

Stan M

Should Hanley go on the DL it is a plus, not a loss for the team. We will get an extra position player and Bono both hits and fields better than Hanley right at this time. Yesterday I mentioned Al Dark and here Hanley. A little that I remember about shortstops. There was a guy in the 30s, I think his name was Eddie Miller, who literally cut the pocket out of his mitt. In our day they were mitts, not gloves. Also players never stuck their index finger out of the glove until at least the 60s and maybe a little beyond. In the movie, "Eight Men Out" they bragged about bringing in an expert and making the movie totally authentic. They goofed with the index fingers though! Most had them out of those old mitts. The best shortstop I ever saw was a Cinncinati Red named Roy McMillan. He couldn't hit a lick, but buy was he a fielding marvel! Came to Mets toward end of his career and was still fantastic. Then he tutored Bud Harrelson who went on to become the glue of the 1969 Mets. One time Lindsey Nelson asked Bud how it felt to have been born on June 6th, 1944. He had no idea what D Day was at all! Pee Wee Reese was the captain of those great Dodger teams in Brooklyn and was so respected by his teammates that in later years, whenever they had a reunion, he was always made to sit at the head of the table. Now that's respect for a leader. Many question whether Rizzuto belongs in the HOF. Ted Williams always said that the Yankees would never have won all of those pennants without that little pest at SS. I remember his first day as an announcer and when introducing the 3rd base coach at the start of the game he said, "And there's the Cro (Frank Crosetti) down at third, flashing the take sign". Marty Marion, the great defensive whiz for the Cardinals in the 40s had a habit of picking up pebbles and throwing them off the field in between pitches. That should give us some idea of the difference between then and now. Pebbles??? Lou asked a couple of trivia questions, so here is my favorite. What post WWII player has the most career triples. I posted this about a year ago so pardon if you've seen it. The answer is, in my opinion quite amazing!

Stan M

Samson, etc.,
Love the crack about the extra mutt in the stands. Terrific!

Samson's Boyfriend

Wild Guess.. Enos "Country" Slaughter ???

Stan M

Very close in number. He was up there. Don't look it up. Actually an excellent guess. I'll post answer in a few minutes.

Stan M

I guess everyone has gone to sleep, so here is the answer. Stanley Frank Musial. Are you surprised?

Lou Vales

Well, I must get my PSA checked tomorrow---every 6 months---and it better be 0.0 or I'll have bigger concerns than Hanley,Buck, West, Coghlan and others.Wish me well.i have such a good relationship with my urologist/oncologist that his office does the blood work while I wait. I guess they know I'm not a candidate to wait until Monday for results.

Night Night

Lou Vales

Stan,yes.

Samson's Boyfriend

Yes..They say he got the nickname Stan "the Man" from the Brooklyn fans at Ebbetts Field..He murdered Dodger pitching so much that every time he can up to Bat they said "Here comes that MAN again"...Ironically Stan the Man got his last hit, a line dive over the head of a rookie second baseman for the Reds in 1963...Pete Rose..who would go on to break Musial's NL hit record..Who Has the record for Most HR's and RBI"s in all of Baseball for the decade ofv the 50"s...

Stan M

On a guess, Duke Snider who happened to be my favorite player as a teenager. My first game was at Ebbetts Field right after the war, My first hero, and I had a Dodger uniform with his #11 on it, was Dixie Walker. If you are interested in those days I have a site with interviews with Ty Cobb and Snider, Maglie on "What's My Line" and a lot more. Want it?

Samson's Boyfriend

You Got it, Stan the Man... Stan M....Great Moniker...I figured you might know...I always get Baseball guys on that one.especially the guys over 50 from New Yawk..Yes, Stan the Man I'd love to have that site...

Stan M

Samson, by the gist of your posts, you've been around the block a few times. I will send more tomorrow but here is Ted Williams on What's My Line" and there are links to several other ballplayers. Do you stay up late? I'll talk some more if so. I go to bed when I feel like it and that's usually just before the sun comes up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxjbBFtS50

Stan M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lhAHv3hGoU

From this there are links to many others. I literally got goose pimples when looking at one of them. This is terrific stuff. Wasn't it you who mentioned going to his first game with his grandfather? That's exactly why baseball is so great. From father to son to grandson, etc. I watch nearly all of the Marlin games with my son and sometimes with my adopted son who is actually my grandson. We all love baseball and all love the Marlins. Stan and Stan and Stan. Names drive my wife nuts!

Samson's Boyfriend

Just watched replay of game..ended same stupid way...Upton breaking his bat, blooper drops in,Willie Bloomquist{hows that for a Baseball name}scores Walk-off run and another stupid celebration with Upton curled up in fetal position,on the ground around short..UGH!!! Thanks Stan the Man for the links...I got about another hour in me...Catching up on late stories...

Samson's Boyfriend

By the way..This guy Key West Frank posted in about Alvin Dark,Willie Mays,and Horace Stoneham...K.W.Frank ,if your out there,tell us what you mean...

Stan M

Samson,
What state do you live in now? Hobbies? My life starts with baseball and politics conservative/libertarian)on the net, goes to Civilization game on computer (way too much), to reading a great deal (mostly historical fiction and medieval novels) to pinochle twice a week, to baseball on Direct TV. Also love to work in yard. Married 53 years to a real beauty. Taught elementary school, was reading specialist in university reading clinic, owned a damn good pet store 25 years, and last distributed aquatic plants nationally. Just sold business 2 years ago so now stay up all night like this. My credo: Never work for someone else, never drive in bumper to bumper traffic, never wear a watch and never use an alarm clock for anything. Went to Providence College where Dominican munks taught me how to sin. Have 2 other degrees but never have used them since having store of my own. From Long Island, to Marco Island FL to Hiawassee GA to Hendersonville, NC. Will be very content to die here...love it!

Stan M

Where do you see that Key West thing? I just went through all posts for 3 blogs by Clark and it isn't on my computer. Maybe it got quickly pulled?

Samson's Boyfriend

Key West frank is next post after your Pricella post on my computer..He posted at 11:29pm with interesting remarks about Alvin,Willie Mays and Stoneham...I'm sure after we mentioned him he'll post again..I hope so..I live in Broward County Fl...go to alot of Marlins games...am going to 7 out of 11 games this homestand starting Fri Nite against Brew Crew...only go to Marlins games Mon-Fri dont go on weekends..also into horse racing at Gulfstream Park...looking foward to Belmont on Saturday..professionally employed and overworked and underpaid HAHA..other than that,spend time with large family I dont want to talk about here..

Stan M

Not on my computer. Even refreshed it in case it was when I switched to new blog, but it's not there. Maybe we could all meet for a game some day. I know Lou wants to and my son would come. Going to first game in new ballpark would be what I'd really like to do. Wouldn't care where. Would you be interested in coming to Atlanta to see a game with us. If you saw my post to Lou, we can get terrific seats but for a price. Never have been a horse man. Love to gamble, but only on myself. Pool, cards, bumper pool, if it was in a bar I did it when younger. The nursery that supplied me with plants is on intersection of Flamingo and Alligator Alley. Used to go there every week.

Samson's Boyfriend

Unfortunatly my out of town travel time is tight and usually taken up by other commitments, but you never know... anyway gotta go... talk to you later Stan the Man..

Lou Vales

Samson, I'll spring for club seats right under Tommy and Rich and the press box.We or I could say hello.We could have a nice sign "Tommy,It's Lou from Greenville and Samson's boyfriend." I'm going to have an attendant take a restaurant gift certificate up to Clark for doing such a good job with the blog and asking the questions.I could at one time score the seats behind the plate but those days are over.Probably a good thing if Samson was there. I also like right behind the digout so I can shout out "encouragement"and advice/

Matt

Thanks for the shout out Clark. I think our GM/Team President/whatever his title is now likes to blow smoke. His track record has really taken a beating IMO since the Cabrera deal fiasco. Let's hope some of these top picks come through as well.

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