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Hurricane Irene playing havoc with Marlins: Sunday's game in Philly canceled

     Sunday's game in Philadelphia has been canceled due to the threat of Hurricane Irene, which is expected to wind its way up the East Coast over the next several days. The Marlins, who played a doubleader on Wednesday against the Reds over worries that the storm would threaten South Florida on Thursday, will now face the Phillies in a day-night doubleheader at Citizens Bank Park on Saturday.

     With a twinbill already scheduled for Monday in New York, the Marlins will end up playing three doubleheaders in six days, creating some havoc with their rotation.

     The only certain starter for the Marlins on Saturday is Anibal Sanchez, who will go in Game 1 (1:05 p.m.) of the DH against Cliff Lee. The second game (7:05 p.m.) starter is to be determined. Whoever draws that assignment will be stuck facing Roy Halladay.

      Tom Koehler (10-7, 5.16 for Triple A New Orleans) pitched Monday for the Zephyrs and would be in line to start on Saturday, but the Marlins would have to make room for him on their 40-man roster. Elih Villanueva is scheduled to start tonight for New Orleans. Brad Hand started Tuesday for Double A Jacksonvile.

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hurricane Irene

Marlins already have created havoc with their rotation on their own...Even Mother Nature is tired of watching this crappy team and is doing it's best to cancel any remaining part of the sesason it can.

bob

The new stadium can't come soon enough.

Stan M

A couple of days ago was the anniversary of the Cody Ross purge. That saved enough money for the team to give a like salary for only 3 short years to catcher Buck. Thank goodness for that. We might have ended up with a younger catcher such as Russell Martin who has a few more HRs and several more RBIs than Buck. No one really wanted Martin...well, except the league leading Yankees. Besides that he was 1/3 cheaper and signed for only one year, so there must be something wrong with him...I guess. Anyway the Marlins wanted Buck because of his defense and ability to help a pitching staff. And that has turned out just great, hasn't it?

Stan M

Here I am praising the Buck acquisition and forgetting to mention his power and how he has been able to stabilize the 8th place in the batting order. No one is better suited to hit #8 than he. The spot was meant for his skill level with the bat! His throwing, too has been an inspiration. We were told that Buck has power, but we didn't realize it referred to his throwing.. He is able to reach far beyond 2B and well into CF when someone attempts to steal. We have two more years to admire him so I'm hoping that 2nd Base will be moved further into the outfield in the new ballpark so that his throws will be right on target.
The FO has bragged that the new park will be intimate and hold less fans than any other park in the majors. As things stand now, any more than about 400 seats might be a waste and overdoing it. They can certainly emphasize that intimate aspect more forcefully. If a fan goes more than once or twice, he'll soon know everyone else.
I can't finish without offering further praise for the FO and how the entire LoMo demotion was handled. You sure taught him a lesson and now all of fandom is behind you for your obvious sagacity once more.
And who needed Cody Ross anyway? CF has been a font of strength all year. After all, if you were worried, you would have kept Cameron Maybin around. But he's been an awful bust...I think...maybe?...obvious flash in the pan...then again the guy is almost 25 years old and if your coaching staff couldn't help him, then no one could...I guess...maybe?
Is something wrong here with my reasoning or is it just old age?

Cant Watch  Anymore

Why bring up the bums in AAA to pitch against Phils..call up the best on AA and A teams to start the games so the 400 or so Marlins fans can be entertained with some new arms to look at..otherwise why even watch the games anymore this season????

laurelbowie

Maybe we bloggers can meet at the new park some night next year. We can wear name tags and have the place all to ourselves.

Peter Gammons Dog

Tim K from espn said today that next years Marlins team will have pretty much the same roster as this years...Free agent market is slim and Marlins want to hold on to their core players.

spitballer

lb....Clark is gong to invite us to sit in the press box with him.

laurelbowie

Spit,
Maybe Rich and Tommy will let us each do an inning.

Flav C

lb, i can catch one inning. i was a good goalkeeper back in Brazil, so at least no passed ball! Also, good idea on the bloggers meeting at the stadium, i'm in.
Not sure y'all were able to see Andrew Miller's performance tonight. The kid definitely has good stuff. In good hands, some players can thrive. I'm sure the day Volstad leaves he will become a good bottom of the rotation starter somewhere else.

OliverTT

Stan, hindsight is 20/20, Did you make the same observations when Buck was signed? What were your posts about the Marlins in May?

Stan M

Most of what I wrote was tongue in cheek. However, I went bonkers when Buck was signed and had many post complaining about what a stiff he had been in KC, how his throwing for 3 comsecutive years was possibly the worst in all of baseball and that he had one of the worst OBP of any major league regular for his career. I, as nearly all Marlin fans loved Cody and said so. But in reality the Maybin trade was a good one for I was one of only fans anywhere who thought Coghlan would work out fine in CF. Was terribly glad to see Miller shipped off as well. Until recently, I have tried to remain positive, but once LOMo was farmed out, lost faith. I hope that answers your questions, Mr. Samson. Didn't realize your first name was Oliver though.

Stan M

Got up early this AM and found two excellent articles. The first is an analysis of the Marlin development of young pitchers. The second is an excellent analysis of Peterson by the Marlin Maniac. Fear not, it isn't full of stat head prose...thank goodness.

Oliver above speaks of hindsight and two things come to mind. Considering the recent development of Maybin and Miller, (Miller pitched 6 innings of shutout ball against the Texas Rangers last night)and the excellent service that the Hopper has provided, the original substance of that much despised Carbera trade is beginning to look more understandable. Concerning Miller, my personal opinion is that we shouldn't fault the FO for dumping him. Everyone North of Antarctica wanted him gone. There are parallels with our current bad boy, Nunez. There is talent there but I, for one, still want him gone and soon. As LB pointed out a few days ago, the team must replace nearly all of our coaches and that should extend to the minor leagues as well. The entire development staff has not helped the organization in the improvement of too many high draft picks.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/marlins/commentary-marlins-have-failed-in-recent-arms-race-1790088.html?cxtype=rss_marlins

http://marlinmaniac.com/2011/08/25/what-do-we-have-in-bryan-petersen/

Flav C

Stan, Obviously I dont want to take any credit from the Palm Beach Post for writing this article, but last week i had written in another board almost the exact same things regarding the 2004-2006 Marlins Draft Picks for pitchers, and i had done an analysis of those 3 key years of drafts and had mentioned that it was unnaceptable the fact that the Marlins had drafted 11 pitchers in the first 4 rounds of 2004-2006 and by now we should have a few guys ready to be a starter or at least a good quality reliever, instead, the only survival is Volstad. Looking at the future, the Marlins' #1 pick, this year, the young Cuban kid, wasn't even in the Marlins' radar for 1st or 2nd round pick. Henry Owens (LPH) was in the radar (ended up going to Boston) and a highly-touted lefty Daniel Morris was a sure pick. He went to Toronto. Hopefully this kid (Jose Fernandez) will turn out ok.

Stan M

Flav,
Your blogs have been consistently excellent. and I read them all. It's just some of what we say in the past is unknown to present followers here. Witness Oliver not realizing that I have criticized the Buck signing from the start. If I slighted you in any way, please forgive, it was not intentional.

Flav C

Oh no, please. I would never think something like that, don't worry. I just thought it was interesting to see this Palm Beach Post article. I honestly think that there are some serious media people reading our blogs in this site (and others) and ackowledging that there is a lot more to investigate out there and avoid any sugar-coating of the current situation with the Marlins.

Flav C

And your comments about Buck at the time were right-on. I remember some Kansas City fans writing on marlins blogs saying the Marlins was crazy for paying that amount of money for him. And Blue Jays fans happy for getting a draft pick in exchange for Buck. It shows how much he was appreciated out there.

Peter Gammons Dog

Andrew Miller goes to 6-1 in a 7.1 inning start,shutting out Texas and striking out 6 including Josh Hamilton 3 times...Worst part is Marlins got nothing in return as they released Dustin Hermanson earlier in season..Whatever Boston has done coaching Miller ,the Marlins couldnt do. Another blown deal by Beinfest & Co.

Stan M

I sent an E-mail to Mr. Beinfest and in it suggested that he look in on some of our opinions of how things are going. It was kind of ironic that a new poster came aboard the very next day and criticized me for my diatribe on present circumstances. That's why I kidded about it being Samson. I didn't want to say Beinfest for I still have at least some respect for him and the position he is in with those two criminals overseeing all of his moves. Lets hope they aren't insulated from how nearly everyone must feel. In my opinion, that attendance figure of under 400 was an eye opener that even they cannot ignore.

Stan M

Anonomous sourse above,
Totally agree with your position except in placing blame on Beinfest. He got the guy and the coaching staff let him down. I guess he can be blamed for the hiring of the coaches who have underperformed, but with Maybin, Miller looking better and better, and the Hopper a definite plus, his original trade doesn't look so bad now. Especially knowing what we do now about Carbera. I seriously doubt that he would have shown the willingness to have a personality changeover if he were still in South Florida. Look at how Hanley has been treated and think about them both in the same clubhouse. Well, at least LoMo wouldn't have been so noticeable!

laurelbowie

Yeah, you get Cabrera, Hanley, LoMo and maybe old Scott Olsen in the dugout and a baseball game would just be a momentary distraction from the real action.

spitballer

I wonder if the Marlins have suggested to MLB to move these hurricane games back to Florida??
The Trop is available as well as Joe Robbie.
I’m sure if the hurricane was coming to Miami....MLB would have made the Marlins play in Seattle.


laurelbowie

Stan M,
We all know why Ronny Paulino wasn't re-signed but hell, he's batting .289 for the Mets and they got him for a lousy $1.3 million. He's certainly as good a defensive catcher as Buck, and think what the Fish could have done with the extra $4.7 million.
BTW, heard Paulino broke a toe yesterday. But of course that doesn't mean he'd be on the DL if he were a Marlin. I think turning their backs on him was a case of cutting off their nose to spite their face. Sort of like they did with LoMo.

Stan M

LB,
Back then I was probably posting on Joe's blog, but was furious when they didn't resign Paulino. It undoubtedly had to do with his 50 game suspension. But you have to understand that Loria would never stand for anything that isn't above board and to the letter of the law. I think...well...as long as it isn't Loria himself who just might do something that's a little shady. Whose sin was greater? Paulino taking PEDs or Loria lying through his teeth about the team's finances. Until they ran him into the ground, Paulino was actually one of the team's best hitters. He even hit as high as 5th a couple of times. And his throwing was far superior to Buck. In fact, all Marlin catchers threw better than Buck with the exception of Baker. Personally, I thought and still think that signing Buck was a bigger mistake than trading Carbera. He can't throw, he can't hit...last year was an aberation...and if he has great skills handling a pitching staff, he never showed it in KC and he sure isn't showing it here. It's almost unbelievable that our FO didn't look more deeply into his past. And it took our on field personnel 2/3 of the year before they realized that he should only hit 8th. Hayes is his superior in every way except perhaps endurance. And, unfortunately, we'll probably never find out if he could catch 100+ games. With the money they gave Buck, they have to play him or look like fools...and we all know that they certainly aren't fools...I think...well maybe.

hurricane Irene

Saturday nites game cancelled...

laurelbowie

Yeah, and even the day game might get soggy. Why don't they just cancel the weekend and let everybody get out of there.

Flav C

phillies fans are irate with that. they also are asking to cancel the whole thing because weather will be nasty tomorrow.

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