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Slumping Reyes to remain in leadoff spot -- for now

    NEW YORK -- Manager Ozzie Guillen says he has given "thought" to flip-flopping his one-two hitters -- Jose Reyes and Emilio Bonifacio -- but intends to keep things the way they are, at least for the time being.

     "Right now, I think it's too early," Guillen said of switching the two. ""Right now it's kind of panicky. It's pushing the panic button."

     After going 0 for 4 in his Citi Field homecoming on Tuesday, Reyes woke up Wednesday with a .215 batting average and .278 on-base percentage. Bonifacio, on the other hand, is hitting .295 with an on-base percentage of .394.

     Guillen did not rule out the possibility of re-arranging the top part of the lineup at some point, though.

     "Let's keep them there a few more days, to see if it works (out)," Guillen said.

     LINEUPS:

     Marlins: 1. Reyes, ss; 2. Bonifacio, cf; 3. Ramirez, 1b; 4. Morrison, lf; 5. Stanton, rf; 6. Infante, 2b; 7. Sanchez, 1b; 8. Buck, c; 9. Buehrle, p.

      Mets: 1. Nieuwenhuis, cf; 2. Tejada, ss; 3. Murphy, 2b; 4. Wright, 3b; 5. Duda, rf; 6. Hairston, lf; 7. Davis, 1b; 8. Thole, c; 9. Dickey, p.

      Umpires: HP -- Bill Miller; 1B -- Dale Scott; 2B -- CB Bucknor; 3B -- Dan Iassogna.

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flagstafffishfan

"Right now it's kind of panicky. It's pushing the panic button."

Like taking out your starting pitcher and running back and forth to the mound last night? Just saying. Come on boys let's score some runs!!! Get on a roll and take the next two!!

Glags

Well played.

Truthteller

How much did we pay for Buehrle to be consistently outpitched? Yeah. Great job, Beinfest.

Worst team in the major leagues.

Flav C

It is funny how things go for the Marlins pitchers:
"Anibal is dominating...oh oh...Homerun opposite team!"
"Buehrle is dominating..oh oh...Homerun opposite team!"

Glags

I'm at a loss for words.

Flagstafffishfan

Really bad. Agree with Flav, it's always that way with our pitchers. They have to be perfect in order to win. Does anyone else notice how lethargic and disinterested this team looks? They show hammer hands Stanton eating seeds, Hanley doesn't swing at three fastballs down the shoot, they look like they feel sorry for themselves. Isn't this why they brought Ozzie in? I suppose they really could be this bad or at least will be mired in mediocrity. Even Tommy and Rich were without words tonight. It could get real ugly for ownership after the charm of that beautiful stadium wears off. I live here in AZ, and if the Fish think they're gonna have it easy against the DBacks they're screwed cuz they play hard like their manager used to. Depressing start to the season for sure.

Steven

I'm most frustrated with Stanton. He looks so lost out there. I think he should be sent down to work out the kinks. It isn't just that he can't lay off a breaking ball in the dirt or square any pitch up, but he even looks like a little leaguer in the outfield. He is a total mess right now and needs some time to get right somewhere he is not hurting the team.

Steven

I've been thinking all year that switching Boni and Reyes was a better fit. While they are both speedsters with the ability to get infield hits Reyes has the tools to drive Boni in while Boni is more likely to hit singles that will only advance Reyes one base. Reyes has more power and can hit more doubles and triples and therefore drive in more runs hitting behind Boni than the other way around.

Stan III

As much as I hate to admit, my Father (Stan M) said pre season Boni should lead off...Maybe he does know a thing or two. Maybe in baseball, but his obsession with who on TV is wearing a toupee or total "wig" can be a bit much.

laurelbowie

Hey, I'm in, Guys. I want to add my name to the list of those who suggested before the season started that Boni should bat leadoff, with Reyes batting second. My logic was that if Reyes were hitting with the power and consistency he did last year, it wouldn't make sense to have him batting behind Buck and the pitcher, thereby coming up 80 percent of the time with nobody on base. At the time, I was told by several of my fellow posters that only a crackpot would suggest moving Reyes from his customary leadoff spot. Of course, the way he's hitting now, I could see batting him fifth or sixth, with Infante batting second. I think that's worth a try.
I agree with flagstafffishfan that the team looks lethargic, but I guess it's hard to show much enthusiasm when you're getting more errors than hits every night. Ozzie was brought in to shake things up, but even Ozzie looks lethargic and disinterested. When he went out to argue a call at second base last night, he looked like he could barely make it out there. And when he finally got there, he seemed to have totally lost interest in protesting the call.
If the Marlins don't start showing some spunk, that fancy new park is going be nothing but a sea of blue seats by the second half of the season.

Stan M

My reasoning for hitting Bono 1st and Reyes 2nd was that Reyes is the more disciplined hitter whereas Bono plays on pure instinct. Bono will have problems with Reyes on first and contemplating a steal. We haven't seen this so far because Reyes almost never gets to first at all. Also Reyes is more likely to be able to hit behind the runner. Lastly, I think Bono had the higher OBP last year. And as Steven said above, Reyes has more power.
My son can't seem to grasp the simple fact that Tommy Hutton is wearing a frontal hairpiece. You folks can decide which of us is correct. It would be an all time first for him so please be kind.

laurelbowie

Stan M,
As long as Tommy isn't wearing a merkhin.

laurelbowie

Oops, a typo. Meant to say as long as Tommy isn't wearing a merkin. Or is that what you meant by a frontal hairpiece?

Flagstafffishfan

Lol on the T Hutt comment. Can't wait to pause the game and really look. Maybe that's why the team is doing so poorly? Does anyone feel that ownership is a little worried? I'll never be able to look at Tommy Hutton the same. Cmon now guys let's turn it around! Go Fish!

Stan M

Watched most of last nights game...turned it off in disgust in bottom of 8th. In Buehrle I feel that I saw a truly professional pitcher. If he wanted to throw inside, he had the skill to do so, etc. I don't think that I have ever seen a Marlin pitcher so simply competent. Kind of reminds me of Tom Glavin of the Braves. Their skill levels are very close, at least as Glavin passed 30 in age. I see no reason why he should regress with advancing age at all and think we have made a fine investment in him.
Sometimes it's easy to forget that ballplayers have human feelings and are more than fantasy pawns. Reyes is struggling at bat and also is horrible in the field. We all know that his skills didn't suddenly diminish at 28 years old. It's got to be the contract and the pressure of living up to it. Pujols seems to be having the same problem but he has exhibited a diminishing skill set for 3 consecutive years and I agree with many who say he's probably 34 or 35 rather than his stated 32.
I utilized the Met announcers last night again, and Keith Hernandez made a rather shocking statement. First he said that now he could say this because Reyes is no longer on the team for whom he announces. Then he told the audience that scouts have pointed out to him that Reyes has a "blind spot" immediately above his head when in the field. He said it immediately after a ball went over his head for a single. It made me think of that high throw from Gabby that Reyes botched in a former game. And of course,, if they turn the double play last night there would have been no Met rally . That wasn't a high throw last night as I remember it though...was it?

laurelbowie

That was a high throw, but to a moving target (Buerhle), so perhaps excusable. The Marlins announcers claimed the throw wouldn't have gotten the runner even if on target, but who knows?

Flav C.

Let me put this scenario for you guys: There is 1 team with a 5.3 Runs per game. A 2nd one with 3.8, 2 others with 3.5 runs per game and a last one with 3.3. So basically we have a team hitting very well, and four other teams, hitting poorly, and in a virtual tie as far as runs scored per game.
Should the hitting coaches of all these teams with average of 3-ish runs be fired? After all, in the scenario i described above, these 4 teams in the 3+ runs per game are ranked as the 22nd, 25th, 26th, and 29th in the Major League in runs scored.
And what if I told you the team with highest runs per game is not the leader of its Division? Would that change anything in your decision?

flagstafffishfan

I agree with you Stan. They are playing stiff and it really shows. They have a Showtime crew filming them, pressure of the new park, new contracts, young players, etc. The pitching has been a nice surprise and certainly Lomo, Infante and Boni have been relatively steady. The big boys need to relax a little and have some fun. We can all see that they aren't having any fun at all. Maybe Ozzie will do something goofy and get tossed today to loosen the team up a little bit. They are human you're right.

Stan III

Perhaps Reyes's "hairpiece" was in his eyes. Clark sees Tommy daily, ask him. I didn't notice a hairpiece as I stood above him when I got an autograph from Tommy last year in ATL. These hairline accusations are coming from a man who doesn't quite understand that hair transplants are now an option, and some older men can, and do retain full heads of hair. Someday I hope to see GianTcarlo swing like Cody Ross, and really get a hold of a baseball. Right now he looks like an overgrown puppy who is learning what his body can do. I read about the batting practice hero he is, I just hope he comes around as a player. He has, and still does look awkward.

laurelbowie

Flav C,
Not sure I understand the question, but I think the issue is whether a team is living up to its potential. Two teams may be scoring the same number of runs, but one may be under-achieving while the other is over-achieving. The issue is not necessarily in the stats but whether a coach is actually helping his players improve their approach at the plate, especially when they are slumping. And that is something that's hard to gauge unless you're on the field watching things up close from day to day.

Your Mom

I still believe the Marlins will be there at the end to have a shot at the wild card. However, You cannot dig yourself too big of a hole this early. Our pitching is good enough to win games. The offense is unwatchable!! Their approaches at the plate are terrible. Stanton looked like he couldn't wait to get out of there with his last AB!! Change your name back to Mike...

Stan M

LB, great retort with the "merkin". I had to look it up. Sounds more like something Samson could better utilize.
One of TV crew mentioed that Infante worked over Winter to improve his power. Remember in addition to his homers, he hit 2 balls in Miami with roof open that would have been HRs in most parks. Wouldn't it be ironic if he hit more than Uggla.
I've wondered here more than once as to whether Stanton needs glasses. Another ball hit to him was botched and his pitch selection does leave one wondering. Wouldn't that be a nice, simple solution?
As to Reyes misplay on that DP, I wondered where he received the ball rather than where he threw it. Was the throw to the "blind spot" that Keith Hernandez mentioned?

Flav C.

LB, thanks. And you're right. Its all about the expectation. The Nats has the 3.8 runs per game. It is still bad, and they were even worse last year. But their expectation was not that high (as far as hitting) for this season. They are really betting on their pitching rotation and bullpen. The Mets had no expectations whatsoever. The Phillies has the worse runs per game average, but they know it is a question of time until things start getting better.
This is a very interesting article about how a team focus on improving its hitting numbers, I would suggest this for a good reading:

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/10/21/walker-hired-as-braves-hitting-coach/

Stan M

Here's something that is really bothering me. Many clubs are flush with new media contracts. Where is that money going? To more extensive minor league
facilities or international scouting? Maybe a little of it, but I haven't read of such moves. To better fan comfort at the park? Heck no and those facilities are paid for with taxpayer money anyway. (I wonder if taxpayers also pay for those plush weight rooms and player amusement facilities). No, the money is immediately being spent on more lavish player contracts for front line stars. But I wonder what happens when those new funds are used up and the lesser players then demand commensurate contracts involving the same drastic upscale in compensation. The only logical answer is that ticket prices must be raised even higher. Baseball games have reached a financial point where attending games for the average fan is a "happening", much like a celebrity concert and can only occur on one or two occasions per year. Yes, I realize that this sport seems to be in some sort of a golden age. However, in my opinion it is partially or perhaps wholly artificial and governed more by TV and the more wealthy denizens of those luxury boxes. Somewhere, sometime, the law of diminishing returns has to kick in. Will ballparks become "studios" from whence games are televised with attendance inconsequential? One can't help but notice the constant encroachment of more and more advertisements during even the announced play by play. I for one am tempted to cut off the sound; particularly during nationally televised games. What does all of this mean? To me it is shouting that potential young fans will look elsewhere for their entertainment. Just think of this. The average player makes a little over 3 million per year. If one year's salary is invested at 5 percent interest (I'm ignoring taxes for simplicity's sake here) that person could spend almost $450. a day and never evn touch the principle. And that's only one year's salary. Simple extrapolation shows that a player making 10 million a year could spend almost $1,500 a day and a player making 25 million could spend nearly $4,000 a day and still have the capital. And that's based on one year's salart only! Yes, it's ridiculous. And unnecessary. And where does it all end? I'm afraid that the answer very well could be...apathy!

Flagstafffishfan

Losing 1 - 0 great here we go again.

Flagstafffishfan

I'm all for letting guys work out of a slump but Ozzie is going to ruin Stanton! Sit him down for a few games my god the guy looks lost.

Flagstafffishfan

Gaby showing signs of life! Nice.

Truthteller

Jose Reyes is the worst player in baseball.
Great signing, Beinfest.

Glags

Truthteller, that distinction is currently being shared by many on this team. Heath Bell is probably on top of my list more so than Reyes.

Truthteller

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7418

Take a look at the player profile picture for Heather Bell.

Does that look like a winner to you?

Nope. That looks like a meth-addicted goofball.

7 walks in under 6 innings.
Three blown saves in five opportunities.

Way to blow another game, you woman!

Another great signing, Beinfest.

Leave it to the Marloons to find the only front office genius in all of sports who is worse at his job than Jeff Ireland. Typical for South Florida.

Anyway, this is what happens when your manager gets on his hands and knees for Fidel and Hugo!

To hell with the Marloons, to hell with the Dudphins, to hell with the Punthers after they choke it up tonight and to hell with the Miami Cheat and their thousands of excuses. Oh, and to hell with the University of Miami Hurrican'ts who stink in every sport and have somehow managed to find a way to stink in baseball, and no matter who comes and goes, it doesn't matter, because the head of the university is a liberal feminazi hobbit.

ENOUGH WITH ACCEPTING SUB-MEDIOCRITY!!!

Carlos

WOW, Reyes or Bell, who is the worst off season signing. Lets go to the Marlins and sign big contract and not do anything and take there money!!!!!

Flav C.

I'm just glad the 3rd game in DC was rained out, otherwise it would had been 2 sweeps in a row.

Flagstafffishfan

Bell didn't have it from pitch number one. Ozzie should have yanked him right away. How long can this continue? One run on a bases empty HR and the other on a DP. I would have someone's arse if it were my team.

I-Man

Hope Reyes & Co. enjoyed the trip to NYC. Lets Go Mets !!

Stan M

Hernandez made another cogent observation today. It was right after Reyes didn't get to that catchable soft line drive into the hole. He explained and through video demonstrated that when Reyes gets set for the pitch, he is too upright and actually on the heels rather than the balls of his feet. Flags... has it right on with comment above. With Bell's recent history, Ozzie should have had a backup warming up in the bullpen. He didn't. So he couldn't pull him. Bad Ozzie! Another ball off Stanton's glove! Hmmmmm.

Truthteller

I'm done with The Whiffer. I had a feeling when he decided to be referred to as Giancarlo that he was a diva and prepared to go down in flames the way Dontrelle Willis did when he became full of himself. I know - his real first name is Giancarlo. But why not go with "Giancarlo" all the time, then? Because he was ashamed of how the name sounded? Because he wanted to fit in better? I don't know. But I do know this -- deciding, after a year-and-a-half in the big leagues, to go "exotic" with the first name was a move made purely on undeserved ego. He stinks.

Lucifer

The Curse of the Miami Marlins has just begun. It will only get worse as the season moves into May. Their season will be over by the end of June. Bad Karma for despicable owners. They will pay the price for fraud and deceit.They will burn in hell.

rbleigh

I will not rail on a 22yr old kid too much but the main thing I take out of today's box score on Stanton is 3 abs for a total of 9 pitches. That's not good & perhaps he does need his eyes evaluated? For now let us all layoff any Miguel Cabrera comparisons.

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