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Stanton still a work in progress on defense; LoMo likely to DH in Cleveland

ATLANTA -- He's tied for the most errors among outfielders in the National League with five and yet has made SportsCenter's Top 10 plays two nights in a row this week for making highlight reel grabs.

Giancarlo StantonGiancarlo Stanton continues to look great one minute and lost the next in right field for the Marlins. But that's what you get, Marlins outfield coach Gary Thurman said Thursday, when you've got a 22-year old who has loads of talent, but loses his concentration now and again.

"He just has to concentrate on every single play," Thurman said.

"[His potential] is through the roof. He's got all the tools. He's got a great arm. He's got good speed. He just needs to play a little bit and get in some situations he hasn't been in and maybe think ahead a little bit about what can happen so he's prepared for it when it does happen. But, you see all the tools he posses. If he hones those things in, the sky is the limit for him."

Stanton's diving grab of a Jason Heyward line drive Wednesday saved two key runs from scoring and kept the Marlins ahead 3-1 in a game they eventually won 8-4 after Stanton belted a two-run home run later in the game. 

According to baseballreference.com, Stanton came into Thursday's game on defense worth 25 total zone runs this season -- that's 17 more runs than second place Jose Tabata of the Pirates. His range factor (putouts and assists divided by game played) is also first among National League right fielders at 2.35. 

But his five errors bug him. "A lot of stupid, stupid mistakes this year," Stanton said of his defense. "Like that ball [booted in the seventh inning Wednesday], it snaked on me a little bit. That's about all my errors -- easy plays like that. I've just got to just learn from it and keep improving."


With the Marlins scheduled to face three right-handers in Cleveland this weekend, manager Ozzie Guillen said he'll likely use Logan Morrison as the team's designated hitter. Morrison, the team's regular starting left fielder, has battled swelling and soreness in his right knee since having it scoped in December.

He's played in 34 of the Marlins 38 games games -- counting Thursday -- but has appeared in eight of those games as a pinch hitter. Morrison hasn't started in more than four consecutive games without a day off or a break from fielding yet this season. 

"It's kind of unpredictable when you play on it every other day or every day," Morrison said of the soreness. "It's frustrating because I want to be in there every day. It's kind of tough to get going. You're feeling good with your swing and then you get a day off."

Guillen said trainers have told him Morrison will be ready to go full-time come "June or July," but "right now we have to monitor him very carefully." 


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George S

Sounds strange to me that such a young player in LoMo already is having knee soreness and swelling as a result of a scope. Yet the older guys like Reyes, HanRam, Infante, Boni, have all been out there just about everyday.


What's so strange about that? Didn't know all bodies were supposed to react the same

Flav C

It is strange. This type of procedure is very simple and straight forward. What could be the impact here is if he already has a chronic knee problem. Maybe the name Brandon Roy will ring a bell.

Flav C

Padres 15th in the NL in runs scored. Giants 14th. Cubs 13th, and Reds 11th. All have a worse offense than the Marlins. Those were the teams Ricky got his "Ws" from and built that minuscule 2.50 ERA. Now, back to reality:
Mets, 7th in the NL in Runs Scored. Braves, 2nd. Ricky's ERA in these 2 games 10.38. Good ol' Ricky, being rocked by good offenses. Now his season ERA is back to his regular numbers: 4.10. Oh, before i forget: His next start is against the 3rd best offense in the NL - The Rockies. For the ones who have forgotten, last season Ricky faced the Rockies and allowed a career high 11 runs in 3 innings. This is going to be good.


Flav, gonna throw one more out at ya to go with Roy (yeah Seattle), Tony Saunders. How many pitchers have their break in motion let alone twice? Now that was tragic.

Flav C

wow, rbleigh...Tony Saunders and his broken arm...Didn't Canseco have Saunder's name in his book too?


O.K Jose


Lomo the Great down to .260....Bus ride to NOLO next.

Stan M

Relying on pitch counts as and of themselves seems senseless to me. Of more importance is the circumstances under which the pitches are thrown. Here is my idea of what to do. It undoubtedly needs modifications. Use a point system.

3 up and 3 down with no one reaching base = 1 point
10 pitches or less in an inning = 1 point
Man reaches 2B with 2 outs = 1 point
Man reaches 2B with less than 2 outs = 2 points
Man reaches 2B and 3B with 2 outs = 3 points
Man reaches 2B and 3B less than 2 outs = 5 points
Pitcher throws 20 pitches in inning = 2 points
Pitcher throws 30 pitches in inning = 6 points
One point for each inning pitched beyond 5 innings

At some point manager can say too much stress and pull pitcher. There are undoubtedly more categories needed; I've ignored runs scored. A method such as this would show stress situations rather than number of pitches alone. For example, the Brave pitcher had no stress situations last night so he could have thrown many more pitches. But when a pitcher goes over 30 pitches all in same inning, that, in my opinion, means that bad things were happening and most of those pitches were very stressful. Does this sound crazy?


Stan M,
An interesting idea, and a rating system like that might might be a better benchmark than pitch count. Of course, we all know what Nolan Ryan, who pitched a few innings himself, thinks about pitch count. But any halfway decent pitching coach should be able to tell you when a pitcher is out of gas and when he has enough left in the tank to throw a while longer without all those numbers. Sometimes during the game, I log onto Gameday on the Marlins website and they periodically flash scouting reports on the screen, telling us whether a pitcher is looking sharp or is barely hanging on out there, and they seem to be amazingly accurate at predicting who's cruising and who's about to get shelled. My only point is that a good eye is better than a good set of numbers any day.


I would like to see Peterson get some time in LF. With his speed, some of those missed fly balls that LoMo hasn't been able to reach, will now be caught.


Here's tonight's lineup vs. Cleveland: 1. Reyes, ss; 2. Infante, 2b; 3. Ramirez, 3b; 4. Dobbs, 1b; 5. STanton, rf; 6. Morrison, dh; 7. Bonifacio, cf; 8. Buck, c; 9. Petersen, lf; On the mound: Zambrano.
-- Clark

Flav C.

interesting lineup.

Stan M

Agreee with you LB. My point is that a pitcher probably does more damage throwing 30-40 pitches in one inning that 120 pitches in a whole game, unless the game was also stressful.

Stan M

Can you find out anything about a kid named Brent Keys? He's 21 and not listed as one of top 20 prospects. At Jamestown he hit .340 in a little over 100 ABs and was moved to Greensboro in low A ball. He is now hitting .381 after the promotion and in 60 ABs in May is hitting .450. Not too much power, an OF, but I don't know which position. He has 10 SBs and caught 3 times. What also stands out is 20 walks and only 11 Ks in 139 ABs. Is Greensboro a bandbox? Is he a CFer? Is he really a prospect now? If others would like to follow our minor leaguers, here is the site.


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