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Hanley Ramirez out for Friday's game vs. Pirates

Marlins third baseman Hanley Ramirez’s moment of rage nearly two weeks ago in St. Louis caught up to him Friday, forcing him out of the team’s lineup, possibly for multiple games.

            Ramirez left PNC Park early Friday afternoon and visited a doctor in Pittsburgh to treat an infection that developed around the area on his right hand where he cut himself punching a cooling fan in the dugout during a game July 8th in St. Louis.

Ramirez received two stitches above his right ring finger when the injury occurred in the sixth inning of that game. He missed the remainder of that game, but returned immediately after the All-Star break.

“[Ramirez’s hand] looked pretty ugly and it was pretty sensitive,” Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen said. “I was a little worried about it. Hopefully, it will come out soon. You can’t play around with that stuff. We have to prevent it from becoming a big deal. That’s the kind of thing you have to be careful. You have to take the time to cure it and hopefully it’s right away.”

Guillen, however, was miffed by the apparent reason for the infection. Guillen said he heard it formed due to Ramirez not properly taking his prescribed antibiotics.

“How do you forget to take a pill the doctor tells you to take?” Guillen said. “Hopefully the doctor finds exactly the right pills and I will tell him open your mouth, like a baby, and put them in his mouth and make sure he takes his pills every night.”

Greg Dobbs took Ramirez’s place at third base and hit sixth Friday in the Marlins’ lineup. The Marlins said Ramirez returned to the park approximately an hour before the start of the game.

Emilio Bonifacio and Jose Reyes each said Ramirez was showing no ill effects from the injury recently during the series following the All-Star break against the Nationals and Cubs.

“[Emilio Bonifacio] and some of the other guys saw it, and said it was bad,” shortstop Jose Reyes said. “Hanley was good the past few days. He was playing with it fine.”

Ramirez, who has been the subject of trade rumors the past couple of days, has gone 6 for 26 since the All-Star break with two home runs, three RBI and has struck out 11 times.

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Stan M

Amputation is the best solution for a lot of reasons.

F. T. Ardkowalczyk

Addition by subtraction. One less loafer. Hopefully he won't see the field again until he's in another team's uniform.

laurelbowie

Stan M,
Picking up from the previous thread: Tony Lazzeri? Willie Randolph? Mariano Rivera? Thurman Munson? Not saying, just asking.

laurelbowie

LOB,
Again, picking up from the previous thread. Maybe it's the altitude in Colorado. We know that gravity slows down time, so those folks in places like Aurora, Colo., and Flagstaff, Ariz., (oops!) are ageing faster than those of us at sea level. Maybe the way time is whistling by is driving them nuts.
But on second thought, it's probably the damn snow!

Stan M

LB,
When I try to make a comparison, I think of would it be a good or bad trade to switch them in their prime. Personally, I'll take Jeter over those above. Rivera might be the pick of many, but I'll go to my grave thinking that the whole save stuff is contrived. And that's after explaining to you a couple of years ago how I just might have been a minor influence on how firemen were awarded back in the dark ages.

In my opinion, Jerer (and Chipper) exemplify everything that is good about baseball.

bob

Stupid, stupid Hanley.

flagstafffishfan

LOL!!! We're higher than Denver here in Flagstaff!! And heck we have guns all over our state. I have to find the article regarding altitude and mental illness that I recently read at work and will update.

Glags

This has to be the straw that breaks the camels back. They're saying he wasn't taking medication prescribed to prevent infection. This guy is an immature POS. He's no Milton Bradley but he's getting there.

It's time this FO moves on.

Stan M

Tommy Hutton ripped him rather well. He has made it apparent, in going as far as he can get away with, that Hanley is far from one of his favorites.

MDX

Dumbley is soft as the Marlins.

The Real Alex

Alright, Hanley's out of the line up because the moron didn't take his antibiotics and his hand got infected! Hoo-ray! This should be an opportunity for Donovan Solano to play 3rd base! But wait! Ozzie never misses a chance to stick an old guy into the line up who we really need as a pinch hitter, so instead of Solano at 3rd base, we get - Gregg Dobbs! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Oz never ceases to amaze me!

The Real Alex

And another aimless route towards a fly ball in Left Field by Lomo, LMFAO! Ball bounced on the warning track and out for a ground rule double.

There is NO DOUBT that we have had the most pathetic outfield in baseball this year.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Just noticed that "LMFAO" has 3 of the 4 letters contained in Lomo.

Marlin Fan

In regards to Morrison , even if you are playing out of position, BE A PROFESSIONAL and take it upon yourself , to put in the extra work at that position to be at least average St that position . I'm also not impressed with a .240 ba and . 180 with RISP .

The Real Alex

I don't know if anyone is watching The Franchise, but there was a scene where Ozzie was giving this big Pep Talk right before the first game after the All Star Game. He's standing there talking about this is a new season, the second half and we aren't out of it yet and all we gotta do is really bust our butts, Blah, Blah, Blah....and the players are sitting around QUIETLY listening to this speech, not saying anything much, a few guys smiling at all the F Bombs Ozzie dropped. And when he finished, they gave him a round of POLITE APPLAUSE.

Where's the Fire? Where's the Intensity? Not on this team! I don't think the like or respect him. My bet is that when he first joined the Marlins he had a big meeting where he pissed off and alienated half the team. I can EASILY imagine Ozzie coming in on his first day and telling them all "F this and F that" and "you F'in bums are gonna things MY F'in way or the Hi-Way", blah, blah, blah.

I can see Ozzie doing JUST THAT; he's a loose cannon and a BIG MOUTH, and I can easily see him getting damn near the whole team pissed off at hi. I think they are playing the way they are playing partly as a result of just NOT LIKING OR RESPECTING him.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Sorry!! I have to post there is too much stuff going on. Have heard from my friend involved with the Tigers that there is a lot of interest in Infante. You can tell that a player may be close to being dealt when Tommy Bahama turns up the criticism. I would bet there has been a correlation going back in time with increased Hutton criticism and the movement of a player. It appears to be chereographed. I could be wrong.

deAza drilled a 2 run shot off of Verlanderhe would sure look good in CF for the Marlins but we had Brett Carroll.

The Real Alex

Ozzie is so STUPID that he doesn't even know what to do with a player on a HOT STREAK! For example Ruggiano is starting to cool off, and WHY wouldn't he? Every time he gets on a roll, Ozzie BENCHES him, spoiling his rhythm. Then he puts him back in the line up and suddenly he's not hot anymore. Now Ozzie has an excuse to bench him and platoon him some more.

Leo Orestes Barberie

The Real Alex, Stan, Flags, Glags, Laurel and Anyone I missed-------Would you guys finally agree that the best thing that could happen is for them to really tank(more than usual) so we can finally make the moves that must be made. The FO can't be deluded into believing there is any chance whatsoever to even garner a Wild Card. Let's get swept and move on.

Leo Orestes Barberie

The Real Alex, Stan, Flags, Glags, Laurel and Anyone I missed-------Would you guys finally agree that the best thing that could happen is for them to really tank(more than usual) so we can finally make the moves that must be made. The FO can't be deluded into believing there is any chance whatsoever to even garner a Wild Card. Let's get swept and move on.

Marlin Fan

Morrison again with a horrible throw . Bench him please . If he's not at first , sit him . I'm sure we can find someone to hit .180 with RISP .

The Real Alex

Lomo just made a great throw to 1st base from Left Field. Unfortunately he was trying to throw to SECOND BASE...LMAO

The Real Alex

"Would you guys finally agree that the best thing that could happen is for them to really tank(more than usual) so we can finally make the moves that must be made."


Not just yes, LOB....but HELL FREAKING YEAH!!!!!! It's time they blew it up, and made some tough decisions. And one of those should involve changes IN THE FRONT OFFICE. I know we are just going to have to suffer with Ozzie; they won't fire him. But the FO deserves much of the blame for this GARBAGE!

Marlin Fan

Great bunt Buck ??????

Marlin Fan

Great another failure to hit with RISP. . I think Hutton said 1 for the last 23 .

F. T. Ardkowalczyk

Josie Reyes and Amelia Bonniefraudio need to be on the next bus out of town. Actually, everyone on the 40-man roster has no business being in professional baseball. On any level. Another sickening, disgusting, heartless, gutless, inexcusable and unforgivable display. Worst team in sports.

Stan M

I wonder if Reyes would have swung at that pitch in the dirt if Hanley wasn't running. One must admit that it was a stroke of genius to have Buck bunt. That way he didn't hit into a DP. Could there be any other reason? His bunt technique was flawless. Pick a high pitch...ball one...and attempt to push it up in the air. Disgusting.

The Real Alex

Ninth inning, Fish losing by one run...one out, runners on the corners, and here comes Jose (I'm not Prince Fielder) Reyes to the plate. And what does the 109 million dollar man do? Strikes out, of course! Marlins 2012! The Choking is CONTAGIOUS!

The Real Alex

And the sad part is that this was actually a good game by Reyes! Just couldn't make it a GREAT game. The umpiring was HORRENDOUS too. But no excuses. We SUCK.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Do you guys realize what 1 for 23 with runners in scoring position meams? It means you are flaunting all the rules of probability. Since 1950 the batting average on all balls put into play--YES!! they do keep these stats-----has been .273. So you take out homers and strikeouts and everything else should result in a .273 batting average. Now obviously there will be some fluctuations in that number over the course of a year,however, the Marlins have been consistently below what SHOULD be the batting average with runners in scoring position. Now that assumes not everyone is striking out in which case you would bat .000 with runners in scoring position. This number is so bad that I wonder if this was the NFL or the NBA and similiar results for comparable stats were being put up if you might have people looking into it. With MLB there is not as much interest in designated areas in the country. I'm not really sure what would happen if an NBA team shot 20% from the field for 3 games. Maybe nothing. I don't know. It's almost impossible to be that inept and that is why it's so strange, bizarre, mysterious and curious. I'm sure someone can determine last time numbers like that were generated. When you reach the point where you are creating what appears to be near impossible numbers it's only natural to wonder--Why??

rbleigh

Alex, agree that in addition to Hanley, Anibal (most value) and Nolasco and/or Infante need to be traded, especially that part of the FO (Beinfest & Hill) needing to be held accountable and let go. Forgive me if can't remember if the GM's name is Hill or Jennings. I do wish you'd stop harping over Fielder instead of Reyes, yes a mistake but its now a sunk cost much like letting go of Cody Ross (Stan, and yes I do appreciate most of your posts). Lets move on, please.

The Real Alex

Give Ozzie a few more weeks and he'll have Ruggiano's batting average under .300. I have never seen a manager so completely MESS WITH a player the way Ozzie is doing with Ruggiano. Anybody with half a brain would realize that when you have a player who is on one of those UNREAL ROLLS like Ruggiano had been on, YOU LEAVE HIM ALONE. You ride that horse for all he's worth, because those kind of streaks are rare, where a guy is just raking everything in sight and nobody can get him out.

But not our village idiot, Ozzie Guillen! Instead of playing him until he stops hitting, Ozzie starts BENCHING the guy and totally DISRUPTING Ruggiano's ROLL! Then he starts playing mind games with the kid, platooning him with Dobbs but denying that he's platooning him. Then Ozzie puts him back in the line up and he expects four hits from the kid immediately. Real STUPIDITY.

rbleigh

Unfortunately if the President of Ops and GM are not let go and only the high priced guys are then the casual SFL fans who really don't follow this team will view it only as Loria performing business as usual with more salary dumping now that the stadium is built and played in.

Both of these moves have to be done in sync for the sake of the franchise, neither by themselves alone. I do not expect Loria to fire himself along with Samson or sell the team.

Anyone esle's thoughts?

Leo Orestes Barberie

The Braves trailing by 9 after 5 have come back to lead the Nats 10-9. Remember this game if the Nats go into a spin.

By the way, IF the Tigers get a 2B they will be solid at every position and with Verlander, Fister and Scherzer and a solid bullpen be right up there with the Yankees, Texas, Angels as favorites BUT they won't be without a 2B. Make them pay for that 2B.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Quick!! Put on the Nats and the Braves!!

Flav C

We should see this coming when Muhammad Ali was invited for the ceremonial 1st pitch in the new ballpark. The whole moment was embarrassing. The ceremony was embarrassing. Completely out of touch with baseball and out of touch with the short, but rich tradition of this team. We were the joke of the league last year, with a payroll that was around $ 58 mil. We doubled the payroll this season. And we doubled the laugh and jokes about the Marlins, coming from media and fans out-of-town.

Leo Orestes Barberie

rbleigh, You are of course right. I was in South Florida last weekend and threw out the gauntlet on every sports station about the lack of talent produced by Beinfest and his minions. It is a HUGE story--or should be--and NOBODY is driving it home except for Blog members. That is really sad.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Dear Flav, You were right with all your comments except for the fact that NOBODY cares----outside of Flagstaff, Hendesonville and Maryland---about the Marlins.

I love Bryce Harper.

Glags

Throw in the towel.

My concern is that our trade chips aren't very valuable.

What I do know is that I bought tickets on Stub for $2.99.

Leo Orestes Barberie

The Tigers want Infante near DESPERATELY!! Trust me! I know this to be fact. This is no Buster Olney idle chatter.

laurelbowie

I just expressed my opinion of this sad, sad situation, but I guess I expressed it a little too forcefully because my comment was purged from the system — not once, but twice. Oh, well, what I said, basically, was that I agree with almost everything you guys are saying.
This is a tremendous opportunity to improve this team in time for next year, but you just know Loria, Inc., is going to screw it up.
Actually, LOB, I think the Nats were ahead 9-0 when they took Strasburg out of the game after the 5th inning.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Laurel, When they are censoring you and not me!!! Well, I don't know what to make of that.

I believe this Nats loss will be a watershed.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Someone, Anyone should really comment on this Infante situation. The Marlins may be able to get 2 VERY GOOD players. You will not have heard of them but they will be playing long after Infante is a memory. The catcher being dangled would be a HUGE improvement RIGHT NOW!!! the other guy is a very good middle infielder or a left hander who will be in rotation next year. Deal could be expanded. How about Hanley returning to SS next to Cabrera. Of course this would cost the Tigers 2 VERY GOOD players who will be here next year. The Hanley thing is speculation. The Infante thing is being worked on. Ask them to deny that one.

Marlin Fan

I personally wouldn't want to trade infante ,
One of the few bright spots this year. Don't think
We can get anything Meaningful to help us this year. Sit tight , suck
It up and regroup for next yr.
Let's try to focus on the very few positives. Save for the last ab, Reyes played well, bullpen did a good job.

Leo Orestes Barberie

A GOOD!!!!!! young catcher who can hit and a left handed power pitcher would be a significant regrouping for next year. Bonifacio to his true position at 2B.

laurelbowie

LOB,
I'm an Infante fan, but if Detroit will give up the pieces you think they will, the Marlins have to send him back. This problem is a lot bigger than any one player, and unfortunately (or fortunately), Omar is a lot more valuable to the Tigers than he is to the Fish right now. From what I've read, I'm guessing it's going to happen. I think Solano may be our second baseman of the future. I like what I've seen of the guy so far.

Stan M

What could LB possibly say to get pulled. He is by far and away the most erodite poster on this blog.

At this stage, any change would be helpful. FO, you simply must make changes. Give us some hope. LOB, I know you are a senior citizen, but can you catch? How about bunt? Seriously, Detroit does match well with us tradewise. At this stage, I'd trade anyone.

Flav,
Agree about the opening ceremony. Those WS rings were tacky, those dancing girls are both tacky and inappropriate, that HR extravaganza is tacky. and the public relations failure over the Cepedes signing was a major embarrassment...it all started long ago and the writing was on the wall. Thank goodness we have a good hitting coach. He will soon change this all around...right? It is impossible to pick out one scapegoat. Nearly everyone connected with this team has disappointed. The word "travesty" most parodies this teams efforts from top to bottom.

Stan M

Alex, in between all the "stupids" and "idiots",you often have something pertinent to say. ( I honestly think that if you excluded those references to others intelligence all the time, you would be respected by many more on this post. Why not just try it? This isn't meant to be criticism...I'm merely reaching out with a suggestion) Your comment that Salerno should have been at 3B was right on point. It's time to see if he can show enough to play as a regular next year. Nothing wrong with Dobbs, but we already know his potential. In addition to trades, we have to audition those that we have while planning for next year. Drop the dead wood and bring up some minor leaguers...any minor leaguers. And trade, trade, trade.

On the next e-mail Tuesday, it would be good if someone ask if the FO or anyone including our TV announcers read this blog.

Leo Orestes Barberie

Stan Besides the people on this Blog who in the Hell in America reads anymore? Within 25 years India and Korea wil be outsourcing their low paying jobs to America. 39% of graduating high school seniors in a particular Southern state could not name the large body of water to the West of Los Angeles and it was a multiple choice question. You can also make a successful wager on what geographical section of America had the highest rate of teen pregnency. I'll give you a hintthink the section of the country that is most adamant in advocating against birth control. Stanley, you and I live in a very special place. We are Number 1 in so many things. Unfortunately most of them---and as Casey said "You can look this up"---are spouse abuse, high school dropout rate, illiteracy, drunk driving deaths. We are lower in the rankings in such things as per capita income, money spent on education and things like that. Stanley! Stanley! Stanley! Fortunately you can buy a 6 bedroom house for the cost of a bedroom condo in West Palm Beach, pay $1,100 a year for homeowners insurance and 1,500 a year in taxes on said house. I LOVE where I live.

Stan M

Louis,
We can also bring up our children as if they are "special" and can do no wrong. Never punish them and help them understand that the sun rises and sets around their little wishes. Ah, yes, political correctness. Unfortunately, some of these little darlings learn how to shoot. But let's blame the gun.

Mike

Alex, I played baseball at a mid major college in FL, I know about what goes on in a locker room. If you like being fiery and tossing F bombs is going to make player play better you're an idiot, and know absolutely nothing about a locker room. Player tune out managers that do those antics, believe me I've there.

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