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Zambrano doesn't want to be in the bullpen long

ATLANTA -- Carlos Zambrano made it clear Tuesday he doesn't think he's built to be in the Marlins bullpen long term.

"It's not my role, but I have to do it," said Zambrano, who struggled with control over his last nine starts. "There is no other choice. If they put me in the bullpen, they put me in the bullpen. I have to keep doing my job, and keep trying to come back and being in the rotation again.

"The Cubs tried to do that to me, put me in the bullpen. It didn't work. My arm is not built to be in the bullpen, but I have to do it. I'm at a stage in my career where I've been my whole life as a starter. But I have to do it. I will do it until somebody remembers me."

Asked about the trouble he has had issuing walks, Zambrano became a little testy.

"People walk. It's not only me. Obviously, I'm the one people most see here," he said. "What can I do? Be in bullpen. What can I do?"

> Manager Ozzie Guillen said Tuesday the loss of Edward Mujica won't affect the roles of anybody in his bullpen because "nobody has a role here."

"When that phone rings get up," Guillen said of what his relievers will do from now on. "I can't say this guy is my closer, this guy is my setup. We're going to see the matchups and what gives the guys the best opportunity for success."

> Guillen said he's not going to ask a lot of Wednesday's starter Wade LeBlanc. "Give me three good innings. We'll take care of the rest," he said. "We got Zambrano. We got [Chad] Gaudin. Whatever your going to give me, give me good ones. We'll figure it out for the next time."

> Guillen said he's happy Josh Johnson made it through the trade deadline without being shipped off. "I want JJ here. JJ is a gamer," Guillen said. "This kid is going to give you everything he has on the field. And as a manager and a coach you appreciate that. He don't want to come out of games. He wants to help. He's not that superstar ace that I know [right now]. But this kid goes about his business the right way and that's why I love him."

> Guillen said Jose Reyes "got a bad jump, a bad read" off Carlos Lee's single Monday when he was thrown out at the plate by Martin Prado

> Guillen said he still isn't sure who will start along with Johnson when the Marlins face the Nationals in a double-header Friday.

> Guillen said if any of his players were worried about being traded before the deadline "they should look themselves in the mirror and ask 'Who wants you?'"

> Guillen was asked about what the Marlins got in return from the Cardinals for Mujica, third baseman Zach Cox: "I don't know. I'm not that type of manager, baseball who guy goes to computer and finds out. I know he's a pretty high round pick. I think the Marlins before St. Louis drafted him they liked him a lot and they had an opportunity to pick him up. He's an athletic third baseman and has an opportunity to help us here in the future. Hopefully he can help us."

As for incoming outfielder Gorkys Hernandez, Guillen said: "So far in the big leagues he's only played defense. He'll have an opportunity to get some at-bats. We'll figure it out. I'm going to play him in centerfield, get him some at-bats to see how he's doing. Then we make decision how we're going to play. It's all about opportunities. We'll move [Justin] Ruggiano to one of the corners."


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Fire Randy St. Claire.

tit for tat

its not a fire sale..traded stiffs today..got stiffs back today


hey z, don't like the bullpen?
quit baseball you've done that before


Tick tock tick tock tick tock

Leo Orestes Barberie

Laurel, Glags, Stan, Alex, Ed and OTHERS----Mt. Guillen is really about to blow and I hope I'm there to see it. Is the game Friday at 4:15 really being televised???

Laurel, Ate at a place called Rock Fish in Annapolis today.Wish you were here to introduce me to Ben Bradlee or Sally Quinn 0r Jason Robards.


Both Sally and Ben have had the honor of meeting me, but doubt that either would recall it. Haven't heard about the telecast, but considering the way the Marlins are playing, it doesn't seem likely that they'd televise a doubleheader. Kick ass!


Starting pitching is now going to become a concern. Nolasco? Buehrle? JJ? LeBlanc? New Guy? Nolasco can barely hit 92 nowadays.


Marlins' website says both Friday games will be broadcast. Post a pic so we will know which rabble-rouser you are. As the no-necks in security are dragging you out by your ankles, I'll be able to tell all my buddies, "Hey, I know that jailbird. He's our man in Washington."

TR Shour

"The Mendoza Line is an expression in baseball in the United States, deriving from the name of shortstop Mario Mendoza, whose lifetime batting average is taken to define the threshold of incompetent hitting. Even though Mendoza's career batting average over nine seasons (1974–1982) was .215, most often the cutoff point is said to be .200, and, when a position player's batting average falls below that level, the player is said to be below the Mendoza Line. This is often thought of as the offensive threshold below which a player's presence in Major League Baseball cannot be justified, regardless of his defensive abilities." The above paragraph was taken verbatim from Wikipedia. Obviously Mr Beinfest has never read Wikipedia. It appears that after the 2012 season, Wikipedia will have a new definition... The Buck line for any hitter who hits below .170. Mr Beinfest, I think it is time to eat John Buck's contract and get a major league catcher. I realize that John Buck wears the nicest catcher's mask in baseball but it is simply not enough. The Marlins cannot win with a pitcher and John Buck in the same line-up. One more thing Mr Beinfest, if the Marlins go into the 2013 season with Buck as the starting catcher again, I (and hopefully other fans) will be shopping for a new team to route for.

toots shor

The players the Marlins got will only help them in their pocketbook, not on the field ,as they all will turn out to be AAAA hacks,otherwise they wouldnt have been traded to the Marlins in the fist place. Detroit and St Louis wouldnt trade these guys if they were any good and the Gorky guy from the Pirates was already a bust in the Detroit org and couldnt even make the Pirates roster. Typical Marlins cheap players.Beifest couldnt put a winning team together on his own if his life depended on it.

Stan M

Been off line. Here's my take on the past week:

Marlins did exactly what they had to do. The returns were, in my opinion, either good or excellent. Some have faulted the Gabby trade but please remember that in the supplemental round after the first round, the Marlins had switched places with Detroit as part of that deal. In Gabby trade, they picked up Pittsburgh's place in that supplemental round so I think they will pick 32nd overall in next year's draft now. That's not bad and has nothing to do with their own 1st round pick which should be pretty high considering how they're doing in the standings.

These moves have, of course, placed a negative odour upon this inaugural season in the new ballpark. This will be a major disaster if the team doesn't reinvest the money just saved. In fact, it would be best to do something now rather than in the offseason for publicity's sake. If not now, the FO should publicly proclaim that those funds will be reinvested this Winter.

All of the above having been said, there is one fear that I have. Considering Loria's past history, there is always the possibility that he will use dwindling attendance that didn't meet expectations as an excuse to keep most of the money saved. Let us hope that if that happens (and at that time all of these moves can then be called a "fire sale) that the union and the commissioner come down heavy on our rapscallion.

Flav C

The Marlins could take advantage of the fact that the season is lost and call up some kids that can bring something positive in return. With 3B up to grabs, and some spots available on our bullpen, as well as some question marks with the starting rotation, these are some kids that are worth a good look:
Smolinski (playing with the JAX Suns) was a 2nd round pick by the Nats in 2007 (The Nats have shown good ability for good drafts in the early rounds over the last 5-6 years) and traded to the Fish along with Boni, when the Hammer went to DC. At 23 years old, he can play 2B, has played a lot of 3B, and has been having opportunities at LF as well. He hits really well, specially in the gaps and has great plate discipline (.408 OBP). He's shown good speed as well.
Arquimedes Caminero, relief pitcher for the JAX Suns has absolutely shut down all his opponents this season, sharing time with the Hammerheads and Suns. Great arm, pitched 25 innings in relief, 0.36 ERA and 29 SOs. Close to 11 SO/9.
Tom Koehler, pitching with the Zephyrs for the 3rd season has shown tremendous improvement compared to the prior season. Better ERA, SO/9 and SO/BB ratio. He can be used as #5 in the rotation or long relief out of the bullpen.
I'd love to see Yelich, Canha, Ozuna, but these kids are still (at least)1 season away from the Majors.
By the way Jose Fernandez pitched really well last night in Jupiter. He pitched the usual 5 innings, had a little bit of control issues in the beginning, walking 3 and hitting a batter, but ended up allowing no runs, and striking out 8. This kid will breeze thru the minors.


TR Shour,

A few years back we in Seattle had Richie Sexson beer night. Draft beers that particular day of the week were priced at Sexon's BAvg. Pretty funny stuff getting drafts at the bar for a buck or two. Haha, John Buck beer night. All brews a buck in honor of our black hole

Stan M

A marvelous idea rbleigh! Good post, Flav. I've been watching Smolinski all year. He hits a lot like Infante did and has had a break through year. They put him in LF this year because of our need there. But he hits like an infielder and if nothing else is done, we could put him at 2B or 3B and see what he's got. Noticed how well Fernandez did last night. Now hasn't given up a run in at least 10 innings, his last 2 starts. Conley, the young LH just a notch below him, also did well in his last start. Coghlan is hitting about .290 and his OBP is close to .400 so can't understand why he wasn't brought up. Glad we made that last trade for Cox, a 23 YO 3rd baseman in AA ball for the Cards. We weren't going to keep Mujica anyway. Too expensive and a FA soon. Can't wait to see Turner pitch. FO did well with various trades. It will be more interesting watching these new kids than the underachievers that were out there. Only player I was sorry to see go was Anibel. Wish him well. Will be interesting to see if this Ramiriz tanks like Manny eventually did for LA. Couldn't wish it on a bigger louse.


Im still not thrilled with the trade of Infante/Sanchez to Detroit. The tigers know how to snooker the marlins. The jury is still out on this one.


While I like Infante and questioned the need to include him in the trade, the Marlin's wouldn't have gotten Turner and the catcher Brantly for a 2 month rental of Sanchez. I've seen complaints about trading Sanchez but he will be a free agent after the season and the Marlin's wouldn't have gotten anything for him. They certainly weren't going to sign him. It was the best to trade him now since the season was already lost.

For those of us who have been following Ramirez with the Dogers, I'm glad to see he's 1-13 in his last 3 games. Perhaps that little spark he got with the trade has already gone out and he's back to the same lousy play Marlin's fans are used to seeing. Glad the cancer has been removed.


if your an outfileder and have no stick, you should quit, that the most offensive positin in the MLB

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