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Guillen on Dodgers makeover: "It didn't work for us"

       LOS ANGELES -- Eight months after the Marlins went on a free agent spending free in hopes of improving the roster in sudden and dramatic fashion, the Dodgers have opened their vault by completing a blockbuster deal with the Boston Red Sox that netted Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford and Nick Punto. The Dodgers, who gave up James Loney and prospects, agreed to absorb $258 million in contractual obligations to their latest acquisitions.

        Gonzalez is in the lineup tonight for the Dodgers.

        The Marlins, when they were in the process of performing their makeover, didn't fork out nearly the amount of money the Dodgers have over the past month. But, the idea is similar.

        "God bless' em," said Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen. "We spent a lot of money. We brought in a lot of names. And look at where we are right now. Hopefully it'll work for them. It didn't work for us."

        As Guillen noted: "Money gets you better names. It doesn't guarantee wins. This is not the NBA where you bring in two or three guys and you know you're going to make it. Baseball is different. Baseball is 25 guys."

        The Dodgers have added nine new players to their roster since last month. Among the newcomers: former Marlins Hanley Ramirez and Randy Choate, along with Shane Victorino, Brandon League and Joe Blanton.

        Guillen said he likes the trade from both sides.

        "I think it's a great trade for the Dodgers because they think they can win," he said. "God bless the Boston Red Sox GM (Ben Cherington) to make that go through. Money plus players? That's a great trade for them. They can do a lot of things with the money and they have a couple of players for the future."

        One of those prospects is pitcher Allen Webster, who was rated by Baseball America at the start of the year as the second-best prospect in the Dodgers farm system. Third on that list was Nathan Eovaldi, the pitcher the Marlins acquired from the Dodgers in exchange for Ramirez and Choate. Eovaldi took the loss on Friday.

        According to a source, the Marlins asked about Webster when they were discussing the Ramirez deal, but the Dodgers refused to talk about him, and the Marlins eventually settled on Eovaldi.


        Guillen termed last night's double-blunder, a pair of errors on the same play that allowed three Dodgers runs to score, as an "embarrassment." The Dodgers scored three runs on Luis Cruz's 40-foot dribbler. Third baseman Greg Dobbs barehanded the ball, but threw it away, which enabled two runs to score. Giancarlo Stanton, who backed up on the play, then threw wildly past third, which allowed Cruz to score, as well.

        "My reaction? Marlins baseball," Guillen said. "Errors are a part of the game. But everyone was in the wrong position. This is the big leagues. We should know where we should be. The pitcher has got to be behind third base. The left fielder has got to be behind third base. Reyes should be the cutoff man. Mental errors are the worst thing. We play lousy, and on top of that we make mental errors. Everybody out there is not a kid. They should know how to play."


       Rookie catcher Rob Brantly had a pair of hits on Friday, including a double off the wall that just missed being a home run by a few feet. But Guillen said fans need to be patient with Brantly and to be prepared for mistakes.

       "The kid is very not ready to be here," Guillen said. "This kid has a chance to be a good player. He brings a lot of enthusiasm. He wants to learn But we have to be careful with him. I don't think people in Miami should be (overly) excited. I might get in trouble for this, but it's true. We have to be patient. This kid has a chance to be a special kid. He's got a passion for the game. Is this going to be good. He's going to be better -- a lot better. He's very raw right now."



       Marlins: 1. Gorkys Hernandez, cf; 2. Donovan Solano, 2b; 3. Jose Reyes, ss; 4. Carlos Lee, 1b; 5. Giancarlo Stanton, rf; 6. Justin Ruggiano, lf; 7. John Buck, c; 8. Donie Murphy, 3b; 9. Josh Johnson, p.

       Dodgers: 1. Mark Ellis, 2b; 2. Luis Cruz, 3b; 3. Matt Kemp, cf; 4. Adrian Gonzalez, 1b; 5. Hanley Ramirez, ss; 6. Andre Ethier, rf; 7. Juan Rivera, lf; 8. A.J. Ellis, c; 9. Clayton Kershaw, p.    


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See Ya , Oz

Better luck next time Ozzie. You thought you were coming to a winning organization,and increase your resume as a winning manager but you end up the manager of a last place team with little hope for next season. Your ex team is going to the play-offs. Loria and Samson must have suckered you too,for your career as a winning manager will go into the dumper with this bunch, unless they do you a favor and fire you next season. By then,you will hope that happens.


I wish I was a dodgers fan. :(

The Only True Fake Alex

JJ is pitching like those tennessee and california kids pitched earlier today.

Marlin Fan

Stanton another bomb !!! Incredible . ( yes he is an average fielding outfielder , but when you can hit like that?) . Sadly he'll be gone when it's time for a new contract .

Everyone let's stop with the trades and the speculation . We have not much to offer , and most trades/acquisitions don't work out for us .
I'll still go to games and route for the Fish( in spite of all the complaining I do ) It's a great ballpark( in terms of good seats) , it's cheap , you can see great teams and players , and I love the game .

Marlin Fan

What does everyone think of the Redsox/Dodger trade ???? LA absorbs 264 mil in contracts , also big questions with Crawford's health . Does Beckett regain his form??? Gonzalez is already paying dividends .
Boston was a salary dump


I believe Boston robbed them. Adrian can play and will be motivated. Beckett has evolved into a joke with his still bad attitude and now a troublesome arm. Crawford???? Punto is a slap hitter who probably contributes more than Crawford. Boston will use that money very well and Webster is better than anyone in Boston right now.

Camera Mike

The trade will work out for the Dodgers because they have an actual knowledgable gm and front office. In other words, the complete opposite of the Marlins.

just another Con man

Anybody fooled by Ozzie? His #1 priority is $$$$.His #2 priority is how can he make more $$$$. Not a WS ring. As long as he gets paid,everything else is secondary. He's just another greedy pig, masquerading in a baseball uniform,instead of a suit.You can take that to the Bank.

Slap Johnson

The difference Ozzie is that the Dodgers actually HAVE a manager. Marlins don't.


Dear Slap, Draw up a composite of the greatest manager that ever lived and he would find it impossible to win with one vey good young outfielder, a good SS but one performing under the norm he must provide, a 31 year old career minor leaguer having a career year, no reliable starters, one reliable reliever, a now powerless and rangeless 1B and a good left handed bat off the bench. Please tell me what I have missed.

And please for your own peace of mind, don't look for any off season moves because the party was over before it started. The only thing to look forward to is 10,000 people wandering through a state of the art stadium.

Not a Marlins fan

Hoping the Marlins get swept today,and finish with a worse record than last season, which they lost 90 games.Family and friends want to have a whole section to themselves,in the lower part of the stadium,when they go to see good MLB teams come to town next year.


Not a bad idea. Just go to Joe's or some other good restaurant before the game and don't eat the alleged food. Bad!!!!


the marlins are good if heath bell wasn't so terrible and stanton wasn't out so long not saying they would have made the playoffs but they would have been fighting now this season they are just trying to finish..i do have hope for next year we will see..don't know the free agents this year, but it is a beautiful venue and people enjoy themselves when they come so another decent acquisition well be nice this off season and have some optimism next year..we will see


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