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Vegas: Marlins only marginally better

     The first betting lines are starting to emerge on the 2014 MLB season and, if the earlybird oddsmakers are on target, the Marlins are in for another dismal season.

     According to the Atlantis Resort Spa and Sportsbook in Reno, Nev., which unveiled its projected win totals on Thursday for the upcoming season, the over/under line on the total number of Marlins wins is: 66.5. That's right. Vegas figures the Marlins are only about four games better than last year's 62-100 monstrosity.

     Clearly, at least in the case of Atlantis, oddsmakers weren't very impressed with the Marlins' offseason efforts to upgrade the roster.

      Do you agree?

      Here are Atlantis' over/under win lines for all MLB teams:

Arizona Diamondbacks - 81 (over -110/under -110)
Atlanta Braves - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)
Baltimore Orioles - 80.5 (over -110/under -110)
Boston Red Sox - 87.5 (over -110/under -110)
Chicago Cubs - 65.5 (over -110/under -110)
Chicago White Sox - 76.5 (over -105/under -115)
Cincinnati Reds - 87.5 (over -105/under -115)
Cleveland Indians - 82.5 (over -105/under -115)
Colorado Rockies - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)
Detroit Tigers - 91.5 (over -110/under -110)
Houston Astros - 57.5 (over -115/under -105)
Kansas City Royals - 85.5 (over -110/under -110)
Los Angeles Angels - 84.5 (over -110/under -110)
Los Angeles Dodgers - 92.5 (over -110/under -110)
Miami Marlins - 66.5 (over -110/under -110)
Milwaukee Brewers - 78.5 (over -105/under -115)
Minnesota Twins - 65.5 (over -105/under -115)
New York Mets - 71.5 (over -110/under -120)
New York Yankees - 83.5 (over -110/under -110)
Oakland Athletics - 86.5 (over -115/under -105)
Philadelphia Phillies - 78 (over -110/under -110)
Pittsburgh Pirates - 86.5 (over -105/under -110)
San Diego Padres - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)
San Francisco Giants - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)
Seattle Mariners - 80 (over -110/under -110)
St. Louis Cardinals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)
Tampa Bay Rays - 88.5 (over -110/under -110)
Texas Rangers - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)
Toronto Blue Jays - 77.5 (over -115/under -105)
Washington Nationals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)


Just a reminder: the Marlins will hold their Winter Warm-Up on Saturday at Marlins Park from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. It's a chance for fans to meet players, as well as buy season and individual game tix for the upcoming season.

Pitchers and catchers report Sunday in Jupiter.


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I'd bet the over


I think they're going to hit it right on the nose — 66 and a half wins!

Lou Vales

Before anyone complains about the Marlins' number, ask yourself IF you were somehow required to bet, would you take the over or under. That would take the emotion out of it and determine if you REALLY believe they will be improved. I would actually take the Over---IF I had to bet.

Lou Vales

Outside of the relatively weak division they play in, I see very little reason that the Tigers should be favored to win more games than anyone else. And I LOVE the Tigers.

Juan Yanes

I disagree with the comments that Marlins are only Marginally better; I believe Marlins are super better team and able to fight either for win NL east Div. or wild card. They filled a big hole hiring Carlos Marlos for bull pen in the late innings, he is an insurance for share this spot with Chishec; also the team add speed on bases with Furcal, the infield and outfield seem tremendous, good defense and good power; Jose Fernandez qualify among the five better starting pitchers of the NL, and the others pitchers seem Ave. the bench appears pretty good with Baker, Wihtington, Doggs, Solano. This is the best team since 2003 season for sure

Camera Mike

Lou, I agree with you in taking the over but only because 66.5 is a low number and not because the team is guaranteed to be dramatically better. In my opinion the team is better on paper by a degree which falls in between of marginally and dramatically. Though that is only on paper and once the season starts reality will tell us how much they have improved.

The Marlins are bringing in a number of new players who do have upsides, but all are also gambles to one degree or another. If everything falls right for the fish I can see them winning 80-85 games, but that is a best case scenario and we all know how often everything goes perfectly for a team over 162 games. It is very difficult to predict a teams win total before spring training starts but if pressed I'd say 72-90 is a record this years team is capable of. I'll see if I still feel that way after spring training and hopefully their play gives me reason to be more optimistic.


Whoever does Juan Yanes is terrific!

Lou Vales

Juan Yanes should get his butt to Vegas if he really believes that.


Lou Vales is Juan Yanes


66.5 is also the over/under on tickets sold at FanFest manana.


Only a Stanton trade can turn things big time for the better. Getting a marginally productive bat in JS behind the plate was the one big upgrade. Playing DD regularly at 2b, or at least against rhp, would be an upgrade over Furcal or Solano. DD will hit 20 HR with 400+ ab. The key is make a deal like Stanton and Cishek for Marte, Cole and Tallion. All the sudden the Marlins are in a position to trade 4 or 5 pitchers + Moran + Marisnek to the Cubs for super hitting prospects Baez and Bryant. Yelich, Marte, Ozuna in the of, Baez, Echevarria, Dietrich and Bryant in the IF, Salty behind the plate, and Fernandez, Cole, Eovaldi, Heaney, and another lefty in the rotation and you have a developing contender.


keep smokin' that pipe in Delray

Dionysus Thelxinoe

I'd bet the over but would expect it to be very close. The pitching alone will do it.

Lou Vales

Lou Vales wishes he was good enough to do that credible of a Juan Yanes.

Dionysus Thelxinoe

Lou, drop a tab of LSD and you will.

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