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Brad Penny agrees to minor league deal w/Marlins

The Marlins are reaching back into their past in an attempt to add veteran pitching depth, agreeing to terms Wednesday with Brad Penny on a minor-league deal.

Penny, 36, has not pitched in the majors since 2012. But his fastball was clocked at 95 mph when he worked out recently for a handful of teams.

Penny, who ranks fifth on the Marlins' all-time wins list and won two games for them in the 2003 World Series, will report to Jupiter initially before receiving a minor-league assignment.

If he makes the major league club, Penny will receive $800,000 (pro-rated) plus incentives in what is a low-risk deal for the Marlins. The deal is pending a physical.

Penny began his MLB career with the Marlins in 2000 and compiled a record of 48-42 before being traded to the Dodgers during the 2004 season. In 13 major league seasons that also included stops with the Red Sox, Giants, Cardinals and Tigers, Penny went 119-100 with a 4.26 ERA.

He was an All-Star in 2006 and '07 with the Dodgers, and finished third in the N.L. Cy Young Award in '07. He has not pitched in the majors since he was with the Giants in 2012, working 22 games in relief (6.11 ERA).


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the Duke

Marlin Fan

The insanity continues .


I'll take a wait and see approach with this one.

Lou Vales

Flags, And I hate this expression---"Really?"


This is what it is all about. Find the unknown (lately) secret ingredient (Penny) and sign him. Look forward to the selling job tomorrow from Rich, Tommy, and Conine.

Dionysus Thelxinoe

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

Marlin Fan

Penny pitches 8 strong innings to be relieved by Gregg. A great win , let's not forget Tejada's HR . Fantastic . Bring back Marmol too . Maybe let's try Nicolino , call me crazy .


Mike Lowell is also thinking of coming back from retirement just to play with these "new" guys.

Stab M

Does Heaney have pressure on him or what? After nearly the entire staff has been foreclosed upon after 5 innings, this poor kid is being subconsciously touted as a savior. Should he get knocked around in his debut, there will be no joy in Miamiville.

But hope is right around the corner. The team required sirloin, but it gets chopped liver. Brad Penny? Can he still fit in a uniform? Last time I saw him he made Jose Molina look slim. More batting practice for our opponents? Cut it out, FO, we got the joke with Wolf.

Stan M

Can this team continue to compete with both Salty and Jones in the lineup? Both are immense improvements on offense over last year. But each has a fault line when it comes to ABs that are completely unproductive. On the other hand, their defense is, oh no, equally mediocre at best. Let us hope that Marisnick proves a quality addition to this lineup, for the team could be forced to move Yelich to IB. That would adding defense in CF, LF, and hopefully 1B, assuming Yelich can't be any worse than Jones there.

The team is going to allow Salty to catch Heaney. Why? Veteran presence, my foot! Heaney is supposedly poor at holding runners and we all know how well Salty throws. I'm far from a Mathis booster, but if there is one game all year that calls for his marvelous defensive ability, it's Heaney's debut.

Get what you give

There you guys go again. Cut Ozuna, now move Yelich to First? Wow.. Yelich's BA is below Jones' and he has less homers. You sound like that idiot who tweeted the same thing during Tuesdays game right after Jones hit a three run Jack. Do you watch the games?

Heaney is a lefty with a decent move to first. Yes, Salty is the RIGHT choice.. again wow

Flav C.

This team will be fine with Ozuna, Jones, Salty, etc.. in the lineup. There is no problem with this lineup, it is just like any other lineup, with its ups and downs throughout the season.

In a season where "pitching" was supposed to shine and put this team in a good position, the truth is that the offense has done it.

What fans should be really, really worried is with pitching. To say it is atrocious right now, it is an understatement. Take a look at this:

Teams that score at least 4 runs in a game are in a very good position to win a game.

Teams that allow 5+ runs are in a deep hole and more likely will lose that game.

With this info in mind, let's look at the Marlins season divided in two: Before Jose and After Jose, which coincidently at this stage it is pretty much half of the Marlins current season.

With Jose in the lineup, the Marlins played 36 games. When he went down, the team was tied for first place and 4 games above .500. At that point the pitching rotation had allowed 5+ runs only 12 times (33%) and the offense had scored 4+ runs 19 times (53%). So, most of the time the team was in good position to win games.

After Jose's injury, the Marlins played 35 games, and right now it is only 1 game above .500 and 1.5 games behind 1st place. Now, the scary part is the following: During these 35 games after Jose's injury the pitching staff has allowed 5+ runs 22 times (63%) and the offense has scored 4+ runs 20 times (57%).

Basically, the offense has held its own but pitching has taken a nose-dive. You just saw it. It has allowed 5+ runs 22 times after Jose's injury.

No team can be sustainably competitive with this disparity between pitching/offense.

You can't blame the FO for trying.

They brought a veteran in Wolf (which had several in this board actually raving about it). It didn't work.

They tried Hand (which a lot of people in these boards spoke so highly about him). It didn't work.

They've been trying DeSclafani. Unless he can give at least 6 innings of 3 runs allowed consistently, It won't work. In my opinion, he doesn't have "starter stuff", and from the little I know about baseball, I tried to explain why.

Koehler is a reliever, at best. I've been saying that for ages. Last 5 games he's put together a 7.00 ERA and hitters have been hitting .300 against him.

So, we are left with Eovaldi, Alvarez, and Heaney.

Would that be enough to compete in the NL East?

Stan M

Flav, agree with Salty and Ozuna. But not Salty in this particular game. We both realize that pitching is to some extent related to defense. We all know, well most of us know, that Yelich is a better hitter than Jones and that Jones has been killing us on defense recently. It probably won't happen now, but in the long run, if Stanton stays, either he or Yelich will be at first. As you say above, our offense is far from awful, but that is no reason not to make an improvement and Yelich would be an improvement over Jones. Of course this is all dependent upon how Marisnick performs. Isn't it AZ that is switching pitchers after 5 innings or something like that. Hmmmmm....

Dionysus Thelxinoe

Anybody got D Train's number?

Dionysus Thelxinoe

You know, Pedro Martinez hasn't officially retired!

Dionysus Thelxinoe

What's Leiter up to these days?

A Realist

God, I hope they don't try and move Stanton to 1st base. He can't handle a ball hit right at him on a line drive let alone a short hop coming at 80 mph to 1st base. Try Yelich and get rid of Jones. Jones and Salty seem to make mistakes at the most inopportune of times (As if there is ever a good time).

A Realist

It's so funny that they just signed BRAD "FREAKIN" PENNY!! I think this pretty much sums what their free agent plans are. If they are scraping the barrel for guys like Wolf and now Penny, there is no way we acquire Samardzja or Hammel. So funny, though.


Dionysus Thelxinoe

Question: Do the Marlins consider THEMSELVES a legitimate contender?

Answer: Brad Penny.

Lou Vales

I love everybody's passion on this forum. Just too many holes in the lineup and where there does not appear to be holes, if you pay attention many of the RBI's don't come in "Game" situations. I really don't know how Dietrich can be in the Crescent City.


Penny is a no-lose situation. If he can't cut it, they just say, "Sorry, fat boy," and move on.

Dionysus Thelxinoe

Hayu, you're right, of course. But this is not an issue of the wisdom of signing Penny move. It is an issue of how they do business. Think of the old proverb, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

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