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So Now U Want To Play

Knock It Bg Well, look who is knocking on FIU's door checking to see if FIU wants to come out and play basketball.

Guess, the spotlight is shining too bright on FIU from the Isiah Thomas hiring that now the crosstown school wants to have the light shine their way too. And u said u didn't care about FIU?

Kind of stinks when FIU is making all the local college hoops headlines. And wait until Tim Hardaway comes on board. U will be banging down the door with a sledgehammer wanting to play FIU.

And let's put aside the newly minted smokescreen excuse of "it's smart economically". Yeah, it may be "smart economically" to get a sellout at the Coral Gables arena with FIU visiting. But, what it really comes down to is that "it's smart Isiahnomically". 

From what I'm hearing, the green/orange wants to play FIU 2 games next season -- a home and home, (Guess the g/o's last proposal of 2 games in Coral Gables and 1 at FIU didn't work out too well for FIU's liking so the new proposed terms have been re-worked to an even number of home games).

But the Panthers schedule is filling up rather quickly with IT on board as head coach. Seems a lot of Osu teams around the nation want to play FIU. So there may not be a spot for the g/o onItpoint FIU's schedule next season.

Case in point, the Panthers are set to open this coming hoops season at Ohio State as part of a tournament like last season's O'Reilly Auto Parts Tournament where the Panthers visited Washington and then hosted the Miami round of the tournament.

After a visit to Columbus, Ohio for the 1st round of that tourney, FIU will host 3 teams from that tourney. IT and PG are currently sorting out the offers they have received from other teams around the nation and will have the FIU hoops schedule done later this summer.

Gm Back to the point of this post, while u won't play FIU because of THIS , there'sDm suddenly an interest to play, because of the national attention of IT. So if FIU hires Greg Maddux as its pitching coach and Dan Marino as its quarterbacks coach, then will u want to play baseball and football??

If I'm PG, I say make the hoops deal with the g/o, but it MUST include these 3 stipulations:

1) FIU/UM must also play in football and baseball

2) Make all 3 sports series -- home and home games

3) Make all 3 series be played every year.

Here are the simple terms of what the deal should be: Football at FIU Stadium one season, then the following season the 2 teams play at will-always-be-Joe-Robbie-Stadium-to-me. And don't worry about FIU Stadium only seating 20,000 right now, the actual crowds were less than 20,000 at JRS on Saturdays last fall anyway.

Baseball between the schools should be a 4-game series every season: 2 at FIU and 2 in Coral GablesTtjm {Jim Morris just clicked on the X in the right-hand corner of his screen upon reading the previous sentence}. This will also save travel costs for both schools in these economic times. Because we have to be "smart economically".  

It's good for the local community to see these crosstown teams suddenly have a chance to play each other again.

Because you know "There's history there." and "At this particular time it is in Miami's best interests" to play FIU.

LogoPANTHER PAWSE

Apaw

5-star recruit and 6-8 power forward Latavious Williams (right) was at FIU on Monday meeting with IT after postponing a press conference to announce where he would play hoops this fall. LW is supposed to be going to Memphis, but took a detour for the momentLatwill to meet with IT. Trying to get LW for an interview on the GPP.

Q&A

Jsuarez88: Pete, What's the story behind (5star prospect) Latavious Williams visiting FIU this past weekend? What are our chances in getting him? Any way we can get his opinions on his visit?

PP: Supposedly, LW is a raw talent that can rebound and score down low, but still needs to refine his skills and put on some weight (he's 210 right now) to play power forward. Memphis should land him, but it would not surprise to see him in an FIU uniform, because of IT. Trying to reach him on the phone to get his opinions about FIU.

Puma: Pete is this a record for the Marlins in terms of grand slams allowed so early in the season? Jeez, we can't catch a break. I wanted to know the following: 1. What was Alvarez a/k/a Rosenhaus demanding from IT in exchange for his clients (Asprilla, Soto) staying? 2. Have you spoken to TT, IT, or MC about replacing Mia/NY Josh as cleanup hitter on your softball team? 3. Is Crazy Cane really Manny Navarro’s alter ego?

PP: The Marlins record for allowing grand slams in a season is 7 back in 2000 and 2001. So far, Fish pitchers have allowed 5 grannies. 1) From what I'm hearing from 4 well-connected sources in the local basketball community is that he wanted one of his assistants on IT's coaching staff. The sources also said that IT wants to run a clean program and won't play Granny that game. 2) I'm trying to get Tyler Townsend and his 18 HRs as a clean-up hitter. 3) Manny's too busy now as the backup Marlins writer. The CC that showed up to FIU Stadium last year for the Louisiana-Monroe game, ironically enough, is a lawyer.

alt7787: Pete I have some marlins questions if you dont mind answering. 1) Have you heard anything about the Marlins bringing in another pitcher to take over Andrew Miller's spot? The taylor kid is ok, but he is definitely only a temp solution. plus even andrew miller wasnt the best starting pitcher. 2) Have you ever met Rich Waltz or Tommy Hutton? dont know why i ask. guess ive just been watching too many marlins broadcasts lately. they grow on you.

PP: Don't mind at all. 1) Andrew Miller (right) will be back in his spot when he's healthy. They will use Taylor for now. The pitcher that could challenge for Miller's spot eventually is lefty Sean West, who is 6-8 andAmiller throws in the mid-90's. He's currently at Double A Jacksonville, but is off to a so-so start at 2-2 with a 6.39 ERA. 2) Yes, have met them, both good guys.

c-UM: Pete, if possible, could you give us some stats on the baseball signees that were listed in the article on FIUsports.com a couple months ago?

PP: Listing the stats of all the players -- the two highest ranked of the FIU class are Texas slugger Rudy Flores (left) and Orlando's Jabari Henry -- takes up too much space, but here is the Flores link to the release on the FIU sports website: New FIU 2010 ballplayers They have all the stats for the players in the linked article.

ridgepanther: what is the time frame on renovations? two years?

PP: The arena renovations (new entrance, new FIU locker rooms and players lounge, new seating and courtside seating and floor) are expected to take 2 years.

Apaw

PG needs your help (well, not really) but what's your take on UM begging to play FIU again?

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thanks for answering my questions Pete. Your the best!!!!

When will this game end?!!!! Badenhop is actually pitching very well tonight. thats a relief. bullpen hasnt given up the lead. ha.

Never forget...you can't spell SCUM without UM.

It should only be HOME and HOME for all sports, all throughout 2015.

Or Donna, Randy, Jim and their no name bball coach should get on bended knee and kiss our feet.

Or just say NO.

SCREW YOU "U"

Ha ha! All you FIU "fans" crack me up. The only thing you can do is come up with the regurgitated "scum" nonsense and refer to UM as a lower case u.

If Miami wants to play FIU, it will be to beat them down. You think Isiah Thomas is going to make a difference in that program? It has been irrelevant for years, and just look at how Thomas ran the Knicks into the ground.

Please.

ALL 3 SPORTS or NO GO!

Plus a public apology during a news conference for all the BS excuses they had for canceling the series.

F DAH U!

Yea Mike your a loser! I think its soo funny how the u wants to piggy back on the success FIU is having at building a program. If you would have told me three years ago the u would be begging FIU to play basketball I wouldn't have believed it.

I'm with Pete, all 3 sports, home and home, or no go. I'm liking this F Da U thing, we need a T-shirt.

I agree ALL 3 or "at this particular time it is in Miami's best interests" to play um"

I agree ALL 3 or "at this particular time it is in Miami's(FIU) best interests" to play um"

You know what's really funny FIURage? How FIU fans got their collective panties up in a bunch about playing UM. And now that UM wants to play FIU in anything, you beat your chest, demanding more games. Talking all this ish that UM should be begging FIU to play. LMAO. Honestly, I hope KH turns around and tells PG to stick any further "demands" up his a**.

On second thought, I actually feel sorry for you guys. A legend in your own minds.

Thanks PP once again for showing everyone what an a**clown you are. Love the blog. Keep up the good work. LMAO

I definitely agree that FIU should demand that the baseball series be renewed as a condition of agreeing to play in hoops, or any other sport. I don't care if Morris does hate Turtle, or vice versa. That's no excuse to cancel what's been a pretty good local baseball rivalry. It's way past time for some people to swallow crow on UM's side for that one. Besides, playing FIU is better for Miami from both a schedule and attendance point of view than teams like Barry and St. Thomas anyway. Especially with the college baseball season cut down the way it has been.

I disagree with you, PP, on football. I don't think it makes sense right now for either side to play on the gridiron. Personally, I'd like to see FIU get more established before we come looking for the 'Canes on that front. I know we've gotten better, but FIU has yet to post an over .500 season in their history with a schedule that's a lot weaker than anything UM had to deal with.

When FIU does face Miami in football again (and it will happen), the GP's have to be ready and able to win it. It won't do FIU's prestige any good (especially locally) if they play Miami and get their butts handed back to them. Personally, I'd wait at least another 2-3 years before scheduling a game with Miami. Gives MC time to shore the talent up and, hopefully, win a conference title or two.

I'm liking this F Da U thing, we need a T-shirt.

Posted by: Max | May 05, 2009 at 07:24 AM

I would buy that shirt in a heartbeat. I'm wondering if at least baseball can get done. Jim Morris hates TT so much that I believe he would object to playing FIU. At least baseball and basketball should be worked out with UM. Let UCG keep scheduling Charleston Southern in football.

GO FIU!!!

If UM wants to play us in basketball then they should also play us in baseball. There is a history there, a rather good one despite Jim Morris disliking TT. I think any deal for basketball has to include baseball, I can personally wait on football a few more years.

No baseball no basketball. I personally don't want to play them at all. Those people are worse than then swine flu, they're scUM flu.

Hire Tim Hardaway? So your basketball coaching staff will consist of 1. a head coach with sexual battery allegations and a huge out of court settlement based on his mistreatment of women; 2. an assistant coach who went on 790 the Ticket and publically stated that homosexuals are not people and should not be allowed in the United States and that he HATES gay people.

Sounds like a quality staff. Maybe you can get OJ Simpson to coach football too.

Oh, and if TH is put on the b-ball staff, noone is ever allowed to make fun of Randy Shannon and the way he talks ever again. Have you heard TH on the radio, he is 1000 times worse in speaking the English language than RS.

CC i will agree that IF FIU hires Timmy not to make fun of RS's speech impediment lol

I actually would NEVER beg to play UCG, in any sport. FIU is climbing up in vertually every sport the school has to offer and UCG has never been the same in the last 4 years..

If I did have to play UCG it would have to be a Home/Home series. By the way FIU should get the first Home Game. Its great to chear for a team that is making ALL the right moves, and that I actually ATTENDED!!

P.S: And after I graduated I did not have over $100,000 in loans.. Now that is something to LMAO!! Who's the looser now?

I'm excited to see FIU play Ohio State in basketball. My wife and I both went to FIU, and my parents both went to Ohio State. I grew up in Cleveland, and grew up (and still am) a die hard Buckeye fan. I would love to see FIU play Ohio State in football. Make it happen PG.

Your talking about having coaches with negative history. Hey how about UCG football team. At least we don't have two or three guys PER SEASON involved in a drive by killing or during spring break and summer vacation we make sure none of our guys are getting shot or getting caught stealing. Hello, "Negative History" should be your school logo..

By the way our coaches can't be all that bad since we are not the ones with the problem of having 5 to 8 guys leaving the school every year. Let me guess Cristobal also speaks improper english like your homeboy Shanny! Ha!

I don't think anyone can butcher the English language worse than Randy marblemouth Shannon. And that person speaks on behalf of a university...but then again, he is an alum, what else can you expect.

F! UM... They thought they were so hard earlier this year when they were saying they didnt want to play us for all of the dumb reasons they stated. Now its good for them, so we are expected to jump at the opportunity to play them in basketball... If it were me, i would say football, basketball, and baseball or nothing at all (I might even be fine with just basketball and baseball)

Your talking about having coaches with negative history. Hey how about UCG football team. At least we don't have two or three guys PER SEASON involved in a drive by killing or during spring break and summer vacation we make sure none of our guys are getting shot or getting caught stealing. Hello, "Negative History" should be your school logo..

Posted by: Gooch7 | May 05, 2009 at 11:15 AM

link? Idiot

Gooch7 - facts are not high on your list when posting are they?

The trueth hurts sometimes. What I can't understand is how it can hurt you so much to know that UCG is not all that great. If it was so damb good you would not be posting on this side of the fence. In the end you are simply another cheerleader of a school that you have never attended (and never will). You probably never played any competative sports in your life (don't even think about Div I), and cheerleading is your best ability.. Nothing wrong with it , I guess?

Pete, great job with all the info.. Keep us posted on the Football Stadium. Thanks!

I tend to agree with Gooch. As the luster over at ucg continues to wane and the star of FIU continues to rise we should be more magnanimous to them than they ever have been to us. Let's play them home and home in basketball (FIU first as we are the gratiating source of their request).

We now have so much more to focus on than a petty little rivalry with them. We are trying to build phase 2 of the stadium and the football team needs our complete focus (this is going to be a big year). IT (and PG) have made the basketball team more relevant than it ever has been. Baseball is on the rise. We're starting a Medical school this fall; we have a new President coming on board; our Law School is tops, etc., etc....

So I ask again, do we really need to take our eye off the ball to bicker about the 'canes? I think not, we've got plenty to concentrate on as it is. Let's play 'em in hoops and keep moving forward.

Go Panthers !!!

I hate to admit it, but I have to...Tim Hardaway makes Randy Shannon sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

Don't know how Timmy is with the kids or as a teacher, but in his prime - he was ONE HELL of a point guard to handle. Why not give him a shot ? He and Zeke can recruit Chicago with the best of them, they are legends on the playground.

I've seen on a few blogs that the Memphis people think Lat Williams might not qualify there. He is obviously looking at building his body and entering the draft in June 2010. I hope that Zeke and PG have come up with a strong "Value Proposition" for this kids' handlers to consider.

I think he signs with FIU. Probably delayed the press conference to make sure he clears admissions with us first ? Otherwise, he would of pulled the trigger with Memphis already.

Make it happen Isiah !!!

I'd say...after the (now REALLY, really obvious) lame excuses of the "history".."fight", yada, yada....has been proven to be just that...an excuse, only take that if it were home and home, and at least include baseball in the deal....while adding football in say...3-5 years' time would be preferable, but I wouldn't demand it now. If not...no deal. Hey, as I expressed less than a month ago....we don't need them as much as they don't need us....so now they "need" us...suddenly...well, let's make it a fair deal for both sides, then.

Go FIU!!!

The trueth hurts sometimes. What I can't understand is how it can hurt you so much to know that UCG is not all that great. If it was so damb good you would not be posting on this side of the fence. In the end you are simply another cheerleader of a school that you have never attended (and never will). You probably never played any competative sports in your life (don't even think about Div I), and cheerleading is your best ability.. Nothing wrong with it , I guess?

Pete, great job with all the info.. Keep us posted on the Football Stadium. Thanks!

Posted by: Gooch7 | May 05, 2009 at 12:29 PM

EPIC FAIL

Plus no link to what I quoted? LMAO

No link needed... It is a known fact, get over it

EPIC DOUCHE

No link needed... It is a known fact, get over it

Posted by: c-UM | May 05, 2009 at 01:35 PM

A known fact that UM has "at least two or three guys PER SEASON involved in a drive by killing or during spring break and summer vacation"?

LMAO. Ok Panthug. Run along

The tables have turned...

Miami, as predicted, wants to play FIU...

Baseball, basketball, and...oh yeah, FOOTBALL!! Home-and-home series...

End of story!

F-duh-U!!

Go Golden Panthers!!

EPIC DOUCHE

Posted by: Yeah Really | May 05, 2009 at 01:37 PM

Good come back a**clown. How about coming back with something less retarded.

Heterosexual?

Chrisfiu - says who exactly?

LMAO. Ok Panthug. Run along

Posted by: Really? | May 05, 2009 at 01:37 PM

Panthug? Are you serious? Very weak. Instead of being in FIU blog, you should write to UM athletics about how disappointed you are that they now want to play FIU and not before. Ask them why before it didn't make sense economically?

FIUer...

????

Great metaphorical use of the letter "u", Pete. I don't know what it is, but it seems like writing about the U brings out the best in you.

I meant that we should only play UM in basketball if they agree to play us in all three major sports...

That should be our only consensus. I've always said it is healthy for both schools to play each other and since UM jumped out in front against playing FIU, then we should in turn jump out in front and only play the Coral Gables school only if they agree to play us across the board. It's that simple, or no deal!

In football, however, I agree that FIU shouldn't schedule anything with UM in the near term. And that works out well since our schedule is full (or almost) full for the next couple of years. We can squeeze them in for the 2011 or 2012 seasons and by then, both teams should be up to par. That will absolutely bring a huge crowd to the game. But we need that in writing today! Even a verbal commitment will suffice haha!

Chrisfiu and the rest of you FIU chestbeaters - ever heard the phrase "becareful what you wish for, because you just might get it."

I'm just saying.

Chrisfiu and the rest of you FIU chestbeaters - ever heard the phrase "becareful what you wish for, because you just might get it."

I'm just saying.

Posted by: TheU24/7 | May 05, 2009 at 02:59 PM

It was UM that first said they didn't want to play FIU in any sports. You have to admit it was a poor excuse.

Read it for yourself...UM's Kirby Hocutt said, ''There's history there,'' referring to the 2006 brawl in UM's 35-0 victory. (Miami won 23-9, without incident, in 2007.) ''This particular time, it's not in Miami's best interests'' to play FIU, said Hocutt, who will allow FIU matchups in nonrevenue sports. ''Will it change in five years? Ten years? I don't want to speculate.'' FIU AD Pete Garcia declined to comment.

Miami FC will play in July at FIU beautiful stadium.

Got to love the irony of a CANEvict calling any other school a thug. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Panthug? Are you serious? Very weak. Instead of being in FIU blog, you should write to UM athletics about how disappointed you are that they now want to play FIU and not before. Ask them why before it didn't make sense economically?

Posted by: FIUJM | May 05, 2009 at 02:26 PM

Man you FIU idiots are completely delusional. Apparently you guys still don't get it. I'll try and explain. You guys offer NOTHING to us. We gain NOTHING by playing you. Now playing against IT, well, apparently UM thinks thats interesting enough to renew the basketball matchup. But if I could, I'd slap KH around and explain to him that the FIU athletics isn't worth the toilet paper Sebastian wipes his a** with.

Actually, if there's anything that I can gain from your rambling incoherent mess of a post, is that I should in fact write a letter to the AD at UM. May be I can convince them how stupid it is to play you guys in anything, seeing as even mentioning you guys in the same breath as UM gives you more credibility than you deserve.

Look at all of you. UM offers a home and home in basketball (something you panthugs have been dying for) and now you beat your chest and think you're in ANY position to demand for more games. LMAO. Like I said, legends in your own minds.

Got to love the irony of a CANEvict calling any other school a thug. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by: scUMsanitizer | May 05, 2009 at 03:17 PM

Oh, the irony.

You UM people have NO RIGHT to say anything right now. YOU were the ones who backed out and now YOU are the ones who are coming back asking to play us. WE are the ones in control of this situation because you gave it to us. That's the bottomline.

All we are asking is that this rivalry grows in all sports, or none at all. This IS an important rivalry for both sides, but in order to do so, both sides must be treated equally and go against each other on equal footing. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

That is not too much to ask for, from either side.

You UM people have NO RIGHT to say anything right now. YOU were the ones who backed out and now YOU are the ones who are coming back asking to play us. WE are the ones in control of this situation because you gave it to us. That's the bottomline.

All we are asking is that this rivalry grows in all sports, or none at all. This IS an important rivalry for both sides, but in order to do so, both sides must be treated equally and go against each other on equal footing. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

That is not too much to ask for, from either side.

Posted by: Joel | May 05, 2009 at 03:21 PM

A sensible post. You're missing the point. UM offered a home and home. That's a start. Shouldn't you be happy about that? It can grow from there. This all or nothing attitude will blow up in your collective faces. Hopefully for you guys, PG is not as shortsided.

Believe me, I am encouraged that UM is extending an offer and not simpling ignoring FIU as it seemed intent on doing. But it's just a start and it should not stop here.

In football, our schedules are set till 2011 so that's a bit far off. But in baseball, a similar offer needs to be made as well. Why not baseball, too? Why just basketball? Those are questions both sides need to be asking. The reasons given for the cancellation of baseball were petty and first grade in nature.

Let's use this opportunity to build a real rivalry that this community can embrace and get excited about.

Joel,

Sounds like you're back pedaling. You said "All we are asking is that this rivalry grows in all sports, or none at all" and now you're saying "But in baseball, a similar offer needs to be made as well. Why not baseball, too?"

I don't care either way for the baseball matchup. Maybe it'll be something down the road. But I vehemently disagree about anything in football. You only play 12 game per year. To waste it on FIU? Blah. Maybe in 15 years from now if you guys actually do something worth while, and show that your selling point is not "didn't get accepted to UM, come play here." Otherwise all you get is the 2006 brawl, which IS (unlike many of you FIU kids running around here) a completely legitimate reason. No reason to play a completely unnecessary game against a team that might mull you half-way through the game.

The Prestigious Alumni of da U:
(For the record, I feel sorry for the families of those killed, but unfortunately in some cases, its believed that those players' past caught up to them, even after they left it behind.)

KIA

Bryan Pata, DT
Sean Taylor, S
Shane Curry, DE
Marlin Barnes, LB

WIA

Jerome McDougle, OG

POW

Eddie Rios, G (Basketball)
Brandon Marti, LB
Robert "Crybaby" Marve, QB
Jammi German, WR
Jeffrey Taylor, LB
James Burgess, LB
Antrel Rolle, CB
Najeh Davenport, RB
Jonathan Vilma, LB
Willie Williams, LB
Zach Kane, LB
Kenny Kelly, QB
Lamar Thomas, WR
Michael Irvin, WR
Kevin Williams, WR
Bryant McKinney, OT

Honorable Mention

Luther Campbell, Financier
The 7th Floor Crew
Lamar "Not In Our House" Thomas, Announcer
Ray Lewis, Suspected of Murder

So Really?, you can just set up google with these names and respective keywords and knock yourself out with the links.

I like to lick Sebastian's balls.

Posted by: Really? | May 05, 2009 at 03:41 PM

Sigh. The intellectual drivel of an FIU student. You want to make another post? Maybe you can say something like "I love teab* Shalala" or "RS was my English teacher". Something that would be funny, and original. Alas, I forgot, you're an FIU fan.

For the record, I'm not going to get butt-hurt over UM's backtracking. In the end, whether its FIU or UM, both schools are going to pursue what's in their best interest. The only matchup that was questionable on UM's part was in baseball, where FIU can offer a decent challenge. But in football and basketball pre-IT and new influx of recruits, I can see where UM had nothing to gain by playing us.

FIU football matchups are going to be tough to consider. The fight ruined the 2006 game. A crappy FIU team actually gave UM a game when it was supposed to be a blowout in 2007. Fact is, UM fan or not, FIU has gotten better and will continue to be better. If FIU works its way up the ranks in football, nobody stands to lose out more than UM. Canes' know deep down the Miami locals identify more with FIU than the expensive exclusivity of UM.

Who's backpedaling? We want a deal in all sports. How is that not fair? We are not some school in Idaho. We are your crosstown rivals, and if you look in other places where crosstown rivalries thrive, there is a lot of excitement and benefits for all parties involved. For the fans, for the players, for the schools, etc.

And we have made leaps and bounds in football, so don't try and play that down. We're picking up big recruits, we have our newly opened on-campus stadium, and have one of the most explosive recievers in the country. And you would rather waste games on Florida A & M and Charleston Southern? Come on, be reasonable please and don't ignore the facts. At least we are not playing an FCS teams on our schedules.

And you guys didn't like who UF spurned you, yet you are doing the exact same thing. Reverse the trend and don't be like the Gators.

The Prestigious Alumni of da U:
(For the record, I feel sorry for the families of those killed, but unfortunately in some cases, its believed that those players' past caught up to them, even after they left it behind.)

KIA

Bryan Pata, DT
Sean Taylor, S
Shane Curry, DE
Marlin Barnes, LB

Posted by: Bryan R. (Really? Are you serious) | May 05, 2009 at 03:50 PM

You're pathetic. Sean Taylor was already in the NFL and was killed during a home invasion by some teens. Marlin Barnes was killed on campus by a lunatic who didn't want his ex going out with him. Shane Curry was in the NFL and was killed because he was arguing about a car that was in the way, and Bryan Pata was killed off campus (no motive and nothing suggesting it was because of his "private life").

You're disgusting. What are you going to say next? VT is full of thugs because of that jacka** that killed 32 students?

Seriously, go off yourself.

And you're a c-UM fan... you take it in shots, ***sicles, sandwiches, whichever way possible... Get over it, UM is out of style, a thing of the past. They blow harder then Jim Morris and Gino Dimare playing 5 minutes in heaven(or whatever that closet game is called... There is no list needed, you and everybody else know that UM is wayyyy more known for being in trouble with the law then almost any other university in the US (FSU is battling with them lately though). Bringing Willy Williams into school tops all moves.

Joel,

There was plently of history before UF decided to run out. Actually, UF is notorious for only trying to play games in neutral or in Florida territory. It actually is quite cowardly. UM has shown time and time again, it's willing to play anybody anywhere.

Like I said, the football program is going to have to do it on its own FIRST. Then, when it's actually worth it, and there's a legitimate guanrantee that we won't be mugged throughout the game and caught up in a fight that will basically only hurt us, THEN maybe we can schedule something.

Also Really?, is it really worth making an argument for the intellectual drivel of an FIU alumni. True, for a long time FIU had the reputation as MDC, Part Deux. But outside of its law and medical programs, UM doesn't exactly known as a bastion of academic prowess. A couple of friends on mine who went to Harvard and Columbia discussed once about how Ivy Leaguers referred to UM as a place where privileged prep school students who failed to get into the top schools go to party daddy's and mommy's money away.

Also, wasn't UM Law the butt of a long running SNL skit starring Phil Hartman?

But in the end, I can't respect someone who killed themselves on loans to get a Bachelor's in something like Education or Philosophy just so they could show off that expensive piece of paper that's worth no more than an FIU education, which year after year is becoming more selective.

Oh come on Really?, I made it clear, I take no satisfaction in the deaths of those men. I even suggested Sean Taylor likely left any questionable dealings behind him. But the investigation pointed out that he may have known some of the assailants who killed him. The Pata killing is full of question marks. Also, regardless of being in the NFL or not, they're still alumni and represent your school. Just like we know Ted Kaczynski went to Harvard.

So take your "moral indignation" and rub that off on someone who can't see through your BS.

"Get over it, UM is out of style, a thing of the past. They blow harder then Jim Morris and Gino Dimare playing 5 minutes in heaven(or whatever that closet game is called... There is no list needed, you and everybody else know that UM is wayyyy more known for being in trouble with the law then almost any other university in the US (FSU is battling with them lately though). Bringing Willy Williams into school tops all moves.

Posted by: c-UM | May 05, 2009 at 04:06 PM

LMAO. Coming from somebody with the name of c-UM, I'm really not going to lose any sleep over your idiocy. I might laugh though.....

"And you're a c-UM fan... you take it in shots, ***sicles, sandwiches, whichever way possible..." ===== Again, coming from a guy who's handle is "c-UM". LMAO That's just golden.

"Get over it, UM is out of style, a thing of the past. They blow harder then Jim Morris and Gino Dimare playing 5 minutes in heaven(or whatever that closet game is called" ====== LMAO. I don't know, what would it be called? Wow. LMAO

"There is no list needed, you and everybody else know that UM is wayyyy more known for being in trouble with the law then almost any other university in the US (FSU is battling with them lately though)."====== LMAO. I guess you stopped watching football in the 80's. FSU? You could have at least gone with UF to make your idiotic post more relevant.

"Bringing Willy Williams into school tops all moves." ==== I guess Louisville must be thug central since that's where WW went after he was kicked off the team. LMAO. He was being pursued by every team in the nation, UM snags him, and you're laughing at UM? LMAO

Hey everyone, doesn't it seem like Really? REALLY is Crazy Cane in a very bad disguise? lol what a loser

no, i actually initially thought it was a good move by UM (although getting him through the system def. was not to NCAA standards). But it back fired. We were talking about THUG U's here, not whether it was a good move or not... And FSU has been in the news way more as of late... Pretty much you responded to my post with laughs, but you could disprove anything or provide a rebuttle... Ur dumb, fact!!! .... and i rock this handle to make fun of people like you, get with it

Also, you must be pretty ignorant to the hatred directed at UM from all over. There I did see some pretty hateful disgusting stuff said about UM players who have been killed, even those killed in car accidents, who I didn't even include on my list.

Also, the VT mass murderer example was weak, because it isn't based on a pattern of violence or crime.

I agree FSU and UF have overtaken UM on the arrest record. Randy Shannon has done a much better job with discipline or the thug recruits don't look to go to UM anymore.

At least FSU can make good news with Myron Rolle and UF with Tim Tebow.

Ur dumb, fact!!! .... and i rock this handle to make fun of people like you, get with it

Posted by: c-UM | May 05, 2009 at 04:20 PM

The irony...again.

Not trying to be an FSU apologist, but the only thing FSu has been in teh news about has been that academic scandal. You may want to brush up on the arrests that UF has gone though since Urban Cryer has started coaching. One summer (I think it was 2 years ago), they had 9 arrests for separate incidents.

And no, I'm not CC. I don't think he would seriosuly be debating you guys with a different handle for no reason at all.

Also, the VT mass murderer example was weak, because it isn't based on a pattern of violence or crime.

Posted by: Bryan R. | May 05, 2009 at 04:20 PM

And the killings of those 4 players was based on a history of violence? Get the F' out of here.

Not to mention, the whole point I was asking for a "link" was based on the premise that UM has "2 to 3 people in drive by shooting and murders PER SEASON." Which was an idiotic statement.

Are you joking me?!?!?!?! what about shoplifting scandal? gambling? sexual battery or whatever it was by the linebacker?... You're not even worth talking to. You dont know anything, "HOW IRONICCCCC". Oh, "the irony", i cant take itttt!!!...

Are you joking me?!?!?!?! what about shoplifting scandal? gambling? sexual battery or whatever it was by the linebacker?... You're not even worth talking to. You dont know anything, "HOW IRONICCCCC". Oh, "the irony", i cant take itttt!!!...

Posted by: c-UM | May 05, 2009 at 04:30 PM

You're talking about FSU? I remember a sexual battery case. That was UF, not FSU. The one where he violated a restraining order? It was an OL and it was a UF player. Mind sending me a link of the FSU player who was caught in it? Again, not an FSU fan, but seriously, your initial post should have had UF not FSU in it. UF >>>> FSU in arrests over the last 5 years or so.

Anyways, I'm out. Play time is over.

Summary: Take what you can get from the basketball series. You want to thump your chest and try to play hardball, you're going to get left in the rain.

Sure... have a good one. We'll see you again on the blog when dates for football and baseball are announced.

"Really" shouldn't be allowed to use a computer. He should be upset at UM's AD for making them look like *******.

GO FIU!!!

Really? - I bet you do you scUM bag!

Anyways, I'm out. Play time is over.

Summary: Take what you can get from the basketball series. You want to thump your chest and try to play hardball, you're going to get left in the rain.

Posted by: Really? | May 05, 2009 at 04:36 PM


Are you kidding, left in the rain? We're not the ones looking for the basketball matchup. If i'm not mistaken, it's UM who came knocking on our door. Who's to say Miami won't do the same in baseball or football? Another Cane fan off his medication. Like Joel said, we'll see you on this post again when dates for football and baseball are announced.

LOL. Looks like "Really?" really got under yall's skin. I have no part in this fight, but c-UM, providing links to two incidents in 2005 and one in 2007 hardly solidifies your point. In fact, it makes it for Really?. considering UF tripled that amount of arrests in one summer alone and CONTINUE to have problems off-field, I'd say that "UF >>>> FSU" statement he made was pretty on target.

And Chrisfiu, I think Really? already said (maybe I misunderstood it) that he thinks baseball is a possibility in the future, but he's very much against football being in the mix. I happen to agree with him on this. FIU needs to settle their own business. I mean just looking into this blog, there's so much hostility.....how do you think a football game (where hitting is part of the game) is going to go? Who knows, maybe the AD comes back in a few years and tries to schedule a game with FIU, afterall, what someone says on these boards is hardly the voice of UM. But it won't change the probability of a brawl-like return to 2006. That brawl will always come back to haunt both teams, but at least if you give it a decade or two, it won't seem as bad.

Just my .02

Why is anyone from UM thinking they're better than ANYONE in college football currently? What delusional world do these people reside in? Try some humility because you've been getting humbled on the field pretty regularly these days. You couldn't blow out FIU when you played them 3 years ago, a team that lost EVERY game that year, so it's doubtful you could blow them out today, questionable whether you could even beat them. Dismount from the high horse and jump on the pony, the kids are lining up for rides around Joe Robbie.

Looks like UM is coming around. I can't wait for FIU to fully develop it's going to be marvelous.

Let's go Panthers!

Yeah the baseball series ended by UM's coach is a joke.

To deny the young men on these two teams the opportunity to play such a meaningful rivalry, a rivalry that both communities enjoy so much, ... Just because of a personal grudge

If I where Shalalah I'd tell the UM baseball coach to grow up and act like a professional if he wants to keep his job.

AWESOME!!!

Wow. Where to start with such an idiotic blog entry?

Let me begin with Pete, since he obviously is the catalyst for it all, and as such is the logical first step.

All I've seen mentioned, in your blog and Barry Jackson's, is that UM had a change of heart. Have I misread any article in which it shows that they initiated the conversation with FIU in regards to scheduling a basketball game? Please address this, since you seem to be spinning more facts, at this point and with the wording of your sentence, than our shockingly inept President.

Pete,
I know you are a horrible journalist, hence you covering FIU and the Marlins, two of the worst represented sporting interests in the Metro-Dade market, but I suggest you get your head out of your ass and do some simple research on the attendance.

UM will not play you in football as long as Randy Shannon is there, even Ice Harris has mentioned that. Secondly, FIU can't even fill it's own HS sized stadium for it's opening day, much less any other game. UM won't be scheduling a home and home with you anytime soon because you can't even accommodate their fans, much less the fans of both schools. I was able to attend a few of their home games this year and my associate attends all their games as he is a die hard, and I assure you that there was not less than 30k actual attendance at any game, but if you want to be a blatant liar, more power to you. I suggest you save up your money though, because with the economy heading the direction it's headed and newspapers going under, you might be relegated to very little work, if any at all. Congrats on the wise career choice.

If you would like for me to show you guys, yet again, how UM doesn't need to play FIU in football for revenue purposes, I will. But stick around to eat your crow. You guys barely surpassed "boosting" UM's attendance the last game you played to 40k, which is under their average for that year.

As far as those calling UM scums, UM fans have to realize they are always going to be called that. It comes with the territory, although they've had one arrest since 1997 (Robert Marve IIRC). I know just last year UF had 13 arrests, including using a dead girl's credit card. c-UM, if you would like, I can show you legal records on each UM player you insist that partakes in the 2-3 incidents a year, and they'll all be clean. But please, just sit there and play the part of the fool for us, every village needs an idiot and there doesn't seem to be anyone more suited for the role than you.

Unfortunately my Noles have plenty of more issues to worry about, heck in the last year we have more arrests than UM's had in the past 15, and UF makes us look good in comparison.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't FIU on probation? Didn't their players have some issues back in 2004 for attempted robbery? Was it 3 players? Jeesh even UM players don't attempt to rob anyone on campus. Seems a bit hypocritical and calling other teams and their players "thugs" is just redundant and unintelligent at this point. Those players that played for UM and passed away isn't due their connection to UM and to say otherwise is ignorant and low class.

I would expect you guys to understand that, but when there are people with names like "c-UM" and ideas to make T-shirts that say "F Da U" (really original by the way, I remember my brother trying to wear one back at the '91 game and my father slapping him upside the head, as he deserved it) just indicates a certain level of class, or lack thereof, that is basically representative of a large base of the FIU alums, although not their best and brightest, thankfully. Thank God those I work with do their best to disassociate themselves from that negative reputation.

Onto that reputation, with you guys saying aside from their Medical and Law school, they are pretty much even? Hardly, UF is #1 in the state, not by much either, and UM is closely nipping at their heels. Here's the link:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search/page+3

People on this blog need to get a lot of perspective. It's shameful that you guys actually think wearing a Tshirt that say "F Da U" is a good idea and then insist that the fight was a 50-50 affair. The inferiority complex in the air is palpable.

lol wow

FOMENTER = LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER!!!! (In classic Jim Carrey voice)

Hmm, you hurl insults but don't refute any of the facts. Par for the course with this blog. Please tell me you are worth more than one poor attempt at wit? Tell me your university prepared you better than that?

Fomenter, wow congrats on such a great post. Thanks for striking some sense into all who post on this blog. Our intellect, decor and general sense of being is no match to yours...

LOL, dude relax. You're wound a little too tight. My advice - don't take things too seriously b/c no one in this blog is. Just have fun with it.

Bottom line is that fans from both schools would like the rivalry to continue. I say let's give the fans what they want.

Did you just use decor? I'll let that one slide, have no fear I just got back from a nice 2 week vacation and I'm laughing at the blog and the replies.

To address your bottom line, do you know for a fact fans of both schools want to play this? Are you educated enough on the matter to speak for both schools?

Formenter, you reek of arrogance and an over inflated sense of self worth...

The UM- FIU stuff was funny as hell. I was having a blast reading all of that until you rode in on your little plastic horse. You sure know how to ruin a good time.

UM and FIU should play in all sports. It creates buzz, its fun, and I believe that its good for the city (if we can keep it civil.)

Fomenter - are you seriously asking if I know for a fact whether fans from both schools want the rivalry to continue? Facts, facts, facts. Why do I have the silly idea that you're a lawyer, or maybe you'd like to be one when you grow up. Or worse yet, you're one of those whose ego has gotten so big you feel the need to educate on a sports blog.

Needless to say, I'm not impressed. But I'll entertain the idea for a moment. Do I know whether fans of boths schools want this? No, I'm merely speculating. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a survey proved my theory correct. But given that I haven't conducted one, speculation is all I have to go on. Actually, it's not that far fetched. I'll explain it to you like you're four.

You see, UM has long been considered a sports dynasty locally and nationally and with FIU's recent success on and off the field, there's pressure on both sides; UM has to maintain that high-caliber athletic image whereas FIU wants to be on the spotlight. With both schools only 9 miles apart, it is conceivable that both schools will eventually knock heads. Don't take my word for it, just look at what MC has been doing on the recruting front. Clearly, UM and FIU will soon be recruiting the same caliber athletes. And academically, both schools face fierce competition. Not only do they compete for the brightest students with other schools, but with each other as well. Based on the foregoing, I would argue that, yes, both schools which are already in stiff competition for academic and athletic talent, have nurtured a competive spirit. It's only natural for this to occur. Now, whether you chose to accept this is your choice. Although I clearly don't speak for FIU as a whole, I've seen the competitive nature of both schools and I can't wait till both schools collide on the field in all sporting venues.

Again, I'm just speculating here, but two schools that are just miles apart with similar programs will undoubtedly want to compete with each other. The 2006 brawl undoubtedly embarrassed both programs, both the competitive spirit remained. It's evident on this forum and on other forums that many (although probably not all) fans would like to see the rivalry continue.

As for being educated on the matter, I wouldn't say that I'm entirely educated on the matter. But to ignore the obvious makes one incredulous. Or worse, ignorant. Based on your nonsensical comments, I have a pretty good idea about where you fall.

That diatribe is one of the most self-contradicting pieces of written work that I have read in over a year. Congrats on singling me out as a lawyer, as I've openly admitted on this blog before. See, I live in the real world and the only thing that really matters is facts, not speculation. If speculation means so much to you I suggest you join the ever shrinking groups of scientist and the lamb that follow them that believe in the global warming hype. That speculation has blown up in their face, as it normally does.

To address your issues on a point by point basis. You guys aren't going to go up against UM, FSU, or UF for the same caliber of athletes. You can say you are by offering them scholarships, but that's like saying you are dating the same women as George Clooney and Brad Pitt because you attempt to pick them up. When you start pulling that talent, and on a consistent basis, then you'd be correct. Right now you are not even making a dent in any of the Big 3's recruiting targets. You make it seem like it's so clear, yet when I look at ESPN's top 150 they still mention the Big 3, but no one really mentions FIU. Why is that, well it's because FIU plays in quite possibly the weakest conference, with the weakest student/fan support and an uncertain future. Do you really think that any quality success will go un-noticed and MC won't pack his bags up and leave for greener pastures? You really think he's going to stick around a try to build a powerhouse for a school that doesn't care for it and can't support it, much less guarantee him a shot at being a real powerhouse anytime soon?

Touching on your academics issue... are you serious? You really think that the quality of students, as a whole, at FIU are the same and that the people who apply (and get into) UM and FIU are the same? If so ignorance is bliss. I guarantee you the brightest students don't choose FIU over UM, much less other schools. Nobody with great grades and standardized testing scores would or should choose FIU over UM because it hurts them not only by the print of the school on the diploma, but in pursuing other graduate opportunities. Same way nobody who gets into Harvard chooses UM or UF, despite some in those schools trying to depict themselves as the Harvard of the south.

See your school is cutting NECESSARY programs, meanwhile throwing tens of thousands of dollars at a putz pocket liner like Marco Rubio to come in and "teach". And you really think you are going after the same talent? Really? And I know people are going to harp on the "but look at how selective FIU is" mantra they were crowing about months ago, meanwhile ignoring the fact that UM has a higher admissions requirement than FIU, so I'll mention that here.

To put it simply, when we sit down and hire twice a year we look at the resumes. When we see school listings like FIU, FAU, NOVA, St. Thomas, Barry, etc., we basically toss them in the garbage and get upset we wasted the money we spent on printing it out because it's just that, a waste. All those schools might have some smart students, no doubt, but it's not worth the risk. Smart students go to good schools, with the exception of a few, it's that simple. Money is not a factor because again, smart students get into good schools and get grants, scholarships, etc.

But please, if you say that it's evident on other forums, conduct your own research. I know the majority of the UM fans I talk to don't wish to play you. Again, like you said, you're post was pure speculation...which is worthless until facts actually back it up.

Now, if you truly think you are both going after, on a competitive basis, the same athletes and the same students, I have this wonderful bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy, and the area is top notch.

What makes you think I would remember you from prior posts? Are you really that egotistic that you feel the need to bash another school? Sounds to me you're not so fond of FIU. Since you're adamant about what FIU is, I wonder how you disguise it in front of your FIU colleagues, you know, the intelligent ones so you hypocritically mentioned in your prior post.

How comfortable would you say they would feel if they read the trash you spewed here tonight? I know very well you, as a professional, wouldn't be caught dead talking that nonsense in public. But alas, here you sit on this blog and spew trash like it's going out of style. Whether you went to UM or FSU, both are good schools. However, to trash a younger program like FIU is childish and unwarranted. I wonder what law firm hired you. Had that firm done its research, it would have noticed you're a walking lawsuit. And you want to talk about risk? As I said, you should be a little more careful about those types of comments. Defamatory comments like yours can land you in hot water. You're an attorney, you should know that (law 101).

Again, if all you're trying to do is impress on this blog, you're wasting your time. I'm not the least impressed.

On the other hand, if you want to talk sports in a more relaxed fashion, carry on. A little banter won't offend anyone. Well, maybe perhaps you. As I mentioned previously, this blog isn't meant to be taken to heart. So lighten up.

I'm not taking it to heart. Don't be like some of the others on this blog, pull out Webster's and look at my name and you'll see exactly what I'm doing here. I bet you never thought of wondering what my name meant before, have you? Or are you going to come out now and say you are? Tough position.

Yes, I'm adamant about my statements regarding FIU. I never once said it's not a good school in the traditional sense, it's just not a great school. It's a dime a dozen school. There's no prestige behind it and nothing that makes it stand apart from the thousands of other schools in the country, hence their 4th tier ranking. The colleagues who went there pretty much agree with me since they are insistent on sending their kids to top tier schools, and completely rip apart their experience at FIU, calling it a measure of last resort and a commuter school. Maybe you should think about suing USNews for defamation as well.


Walking law suit? I could barely type that without spilling my coffee, the last thing my comments are is defamatory since it's expressly an opinion that contains no lies, so obviously it's not defamation. That is the truth behind torts 101, which you clearly know nothing about. You couldn't even prove damages, much less the other actual elements to it, but please do pontificate about defamation, which you are so clearly learned about. See, Pete would be the one more liable for defamation considering his obviously, factually and facially incorrect comments about the attendance regarding that school you followers obviously feel so inferior to. And even that wouldn't stick. Maybe you should be a little more careful about venturing into a field in which you are woefully unarmed.

I don't feel the need to impress you or anyone else on a FIU blog, it's a FIU blog, not necessarily the movers and shakers of the country.

But please, thinly veil weak threats towards me with "hot water" comments which you clearly know nothing about. Want to swing by the trauma center and give advice about how to do a quadruple bypass because you saw it on ER? I'll let you research on how to do it on Wikipedia on the way there if you like.

Take a seat at the kid's table until you can discuss something you are knowledgeable about.

Honestly, you are too much fun, you take yourself, your school, and this blog way too seriously.

Fomenter is back!!..somehow, he really thinks he is a legend in his own mind. He will write, and write, and write...not make sense...and then spin what he wrote...even when clearly corrected of his obvious incorrect,factless statements. LOL....Ridiculously, he still believes people will take his little words seriously, and follow his lead....lastly, he has a delusion, where he believes he can make a psychoanalysis of every situation, and poster, with very simple....and unsubstantiated...reasons....truly delusional...

If it meows, and likes to chase mouses....it must be a cat!!

Really funny how some of these anti-FIU'ers...whether they claim to be UM fans or not...come out of the woodwork to mantain the status quo they so much want to keep. Change is a-coming, my friends...Accept realities....TDAOS!!!

God forbid you waste a game on FIU... you'll leave charlson southern and Florida A&M so lonely.

I remember going to an FIU-UM game just a year after the brawl and it was a nice game with good sportsmanship. Please that reason more dull than using a straw to cut a steak. There will be no brawls. Because our coaches have control of the team. The further we get away from that day the less it is a factor. The coaches and players of that day are for the most part gone. And UM is a little more level headed this year than to act like they are still National Champ calber after some average seasons.

The same "economically friendly" reason actualy applies in every other sport, and you can't tell me that every single team you play in any sport is better than FIU. So don't give us that you have nothing to gain crap, because you gain nothing from other teams also. No, no, no.... thats not the reason. The only logical reason is YOU HAVE MORE TO LOSE should you by some chance be defeated. The only differnce in Basketball now is that finally you guys can gain some of our spotlight.

I like the fact that Fanatic is my own little follower/stalker. He literally likes to follow me around, after saying multiple times things like "See you later" or "Good day" and yet he keeps coming back.

He says I'm wrong, yet can't prove it. Lovely work my friend, truly you are a regular Perry Mason. Ever think of taking up a job as a state prosecutor? T.D.A.O.S........ still can't beat a quality team 2 years later. My god that's some quality change, right under the Obama plan I bet. No one takes my word seriously, but he continues to respond to me. I love it, truly an ego booster on a worst day if I ever saw one. He's the Perez Hilton of the blog, if he pokes fun at you, you already know you are doing something right.

As far as UM wasting a game against FIU, it's pretty much up to them. They aren't making anymore money by scheduling FIU than they are by scheduling FAMU or Charleston Southern. In fact, the last time UM played FIU they drew 40,915 thousand. Last time they played FAMU, 40208 thousand. Last time they played Charleston Southern, 48,119 thousand (ouch). And they don't need to do any return trips or spend a year pocketing all the money. Seems economically intelligent to me.

Formentor sounds to me like another bitter fool who spent a small fortune on a lowly nationally regarded law school and is now trying to disregard local, and far more "smart economical", competition in order to justify his decision. Worry not Formentor, there's no way you could have seen what FIU will and is becoming, none of us really, really did, but we're pleasantly (and debt-free) surprised. As far as your assertion as to whether us "guys are not going to go up against UF, crimiNOLES or scUM for the same caliber athlete", well I don't have the crystal ball you apparently have but I will say I see nothing except for MEMORIES OF YESTER YEAR GLORIES that can EVER compete to the complete package FIU will one day in the not-too-distant-future offer potential student-athletes. When we get there, no current Florida school will have what we as a university, program or city have to offer. Until then, I love it when people like you come on here, with no vested interest in FIU, and devote time to typing up how much we suck, because all you inevitably do is display your own insecurities. You don't need a psychology degree to read through you little man.

Fomenter can't get me out of his clouded mind...Relax buddy, as your posts reek of desperate need for attention...you are a legend in your own mind...please, be a little more original, as you use the same "little" comment I used about you (little words)in your feeble attempt to respond to me...talk about a follower.....a desperate, bitter, lonely one.....

LOL this guy talks to a few folks who disliked their experience at FIU and he suddenly feels equipped to generalize about the school's alumni. How pathetic. I have news for you; I happen to know UM alumni who aren't so fond of their experience at UM. Is that sinking in yet? Did you almost spill your coffee again? Your comments are absolutely ridiculous and entertaining at best. Tell you what, you keep nursing your coffee and we'll discuss this further as game day approaches. It won't be long before your alma mater comes knocking on our door asking to play us in other sporting venues.

Don't be mad at the FIU fans, it's your AD who you should be mad at...we're just reacting. Besides, a big success like you shouldn't be threatened by a small-time university. You can just write us off. It'll just make the noise louder when we come face-to-face on the grid iron.

Come to think of it, I do agree about the smart students choosing good schools comment. I'm not sure which school you got your degree from, but I would venture to say you didn't attend Florida Law. Only bright students make it to the Ivy League of the south!

Ahh, Fomenter...a self-proclaimed god, dude that's as funny as your silly remarks! Maybe one day we'll sit down and have a witty and stimulating conversation about the law, but for now I suggest you become familiar with it first. I wouldn't want to school you, I'll let UF grads do that for now.

You might not need a psychology degree, but what institution awarded you any degree when you can't clearly copy my name? Please, don't belittle someone when looking the fool every time you address that person. At least make an effort to be somewhat competent.

Please, what is FIU going to offer these student-athletes? Living in between Doral, Westchester, and Sweetwater? Attending a 4th tier school? Having little to none fan support? The marquee of the sunbelt conference? Great public transportation being miles away from any major attraction in the city, except for the Fair which comes for what, 2-3 weeks out of the year?

Don't worry about my law school, if you know where Cornell is you know exactly how regarded it is nationally.

The only thing that might save your school from treading the waters of average is your new President, who would undo some of the educational mess Modesto made of it the past few years.

I love getting a rise out of you guys, but that has to be an act on your part right? I mean Fanatic said so, yet we have evidence to the contrary.

Cornell?? I'd like to think the admissions committee at Cornell is a bit more selective, so I'll dismiss that nonsense. Admit it, you went to UM and aren't even proud enough to admit that you flushed over $100k down the toilet. UF has a much better law program for a fraction of the cost. But I guess your legal education didn't teach you anything about numbers. Oh, wait, that's something most of us learned prior to law school. You're a sad case Fomenter.

You think someone would care enough about your comments to type your name correctly, or remember your name, or remember you? You are invisible in every respect. What FIU will be able to offer one day (whether it be 3, 5 or 10 years from now) will be a well-regarded urban institution, not in the boondocks like Tally or Hicksville but in greater Miami (one of the top destinations in the country), with a 40k + on-campus stadium with top-rate facilities, eventual move to a bigger conference (pretend like you think this will not happen) and add to that an established and climbing business school, budding law school, brand new med school, to name a few, and you get to the key drivers behind your defensive and aggressive posture on this blog. I hope, for your sake, you're not this transparent in your professional life...but I have the strong suspicion you are and are none the wiser.

Chris, I find your post both fantastic and intriguing. You're right, my alma won't come knocking on your door to play football, or any other sporting events for that matter, since it's all the way in NY.

And you're right yet again, I didn't go to Florida Law, it was beneath the amount of hard work I put myself through to go there. See I worked hard in HS and undergrad, so I had greater opportunities. And Florida Law is a fantastic school.

And I'm sure you're right again, because I know plenty of people not happy with their experience at UM. But then when you look at the size of the school, the involvement of the students and alums, and compare the same criteria to those of FIU, I'm sure the majority of people are happy there. Same goes with Miami Dade College and ITT Tech.

It's clear as day you know absolutely nothing about the law, since you couldn't even list the elements for defamation after I proved you wrong. Your chances of schooling me in the legal field are slightly better than your chances of upsetting UF on the grid iron.

But please, don't deny the Florida law students the joy of schooling me, do it yourself. I doubt we'd have a stimulating and witty conversation about the law since the other end of the conversation would implicitly involve you, and you know zilch about it. I'd even pay the costs for you to attempt to school me, I so love to do the mandatory Pro Bono.

Fanatic, keep it coming. Keep showing me how little you think of my posts by responding, I find it so hysterically ironic and hypocritical that I can do nothing but encourage it.

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