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So Now U Want To Play

Knock It Bg Well, look who is knocking on FIU's door checking to see if FIU wants to come out and play basketball.

Guess, the spotlight is shining too bright on FIU from the Isiah Thomas hiring that now the crosstown school wants to have the light shine their way too. And u said u didn't care about FIU?

Kind of stinks when FIU is making all the local college hoops headlines. And wait until Tim Hardaway comes on board. U will be banging down the door with a sledgehammer wanting to play FIU.

And let's put aside the newly minted smokescreen excuse of "it's smart economically". Yeah, it may be "smart economically" to get a sellout at the Coral Gables arena with FIU visiting. But, what it really comes down to is that "it's smart Isiahnomically". 

From what I'm hearing, the green/orange wants to play FIU 2 games next season -- a home and home, (Guess the g/o's last proposal of 2 games in Coral Gables and 1 at FIU didn't work out too well for FIU's liking so the new proposed terms have been re-worked to an even number of home games).

But the Panthers schedule is filling up rather quickly with IT on board as head coach. Seems a lot of Osu teams around the nation want to play FIU. So there may not be a spot for the g/o onItpoint FIU's schedule next season.

Case in point, the Panthers are set to open this coming hoops season at Ohio State as part of a tournament like last season's O'Reilly Auto Parts Tournament where the Panthers visited Washington and then hosted the Miami round of the tournament.

After a visit to Columbus, Ohio for the 1st round of that tourney, FIU will host 3 teams from that tourney. IT and PG are currently sorting out the offers they have received from other teams around the nation and will have the FIU hoops schedule done later this summer.

Gm Back to the point of this post, while u won't play FIU because of THIS , there'sDm suddenly an interest to play, because of the national attention of IT. So if FIU hires Greg Maddux as its pitching coach and Dan Marino as its quarterbacks coach, then will u want to play baseball and football??

If I'm PG, I say make the hoops deal with the g/o, but it MUST include these 3 stipulations:

1) FIU/UM must also play in football and baseball

2) Make all 3 sports series -- home and home games

3) Make all 3 series be played every year.

Here are the simple terms of what the deal should be: Football at FIU Stadium one season, then the following season the 2 teams play at will-always-be-Joe-Robbie-Stadium-to-me. And don't worry about FIU Stadium only seating 20,000 right now, the actual crowds were less than 20,000 at JRS on Saturdays last fall anyway.

Baseball between the schools should be a 4-game series every season: 2 at FIU and 2 in Coral GablesTtjm {Jim Morris just clicked on the X in the right-hand corner of his screen upon reading the previous sentence}. This will also save travel costs for both schools in these economic times. Because we have to be "smart economically".  

It's good for the local community to see these crosstown teams suddenly have a chance to play each other again.

Because you know "There's history there." and "At this particular time it is in Miami's best interests" to play FIU.

LogoPANTHER PAWSE

Apaw

5-star recruit and 6-8 power forward Latavious Williams (right) was at FIU on Monday meeting with IT after postponing a press conference to announce where he would play hoops this fall. LW is supposed to be going to Memphis, but took a detour for the momentLatwill to meet with IT. Trying to get LW for an interview on the GPP.

Q&A

Jsuarez88: Pete, What's the story behind (5star prospect) Latavious Williams visiting FIU this past weekend? What are our chances in getting him? Any way we can get his opinions on his visit?

PP: Supposedly, LW is a raw talent that can rebound and score down low, but still needs to refine his skills and put on some weight (he's 210 right now) to play power forward. Memphis should land him, but it would not surprise to see him in an FIU uniform, because of IT. Trying to reach him on the phone to get his opinions about FIU.

Puma: Pete is this a record for the Marlins in terms of grand slams allowed so early in the season? Jeez, we can't catch a break. I wanted to know the following: 1. What was Alvarez a/k/a Rosenhaus demanding from IT in exchange for his clients (Asprilla, Soto) staying? 2. Have you spoken to TT, IT, or MC about replacing Mia/NY Josh as cleanup hitter on your softball team? 3. Is Crazy Cane really Manny Navarro’s alter ego?

PP: The Marlins record for allowing grand slams in a season is 7 back in 2000 and 2001. So far, Fish pitchers have allowed 5 grannies. 1) From what I'm hearing from 4 well-connected sources in the local basketball community is that he wanted one of his assistants on IT's coaching staff. The sources also said that IT wants to run a clean program and won't play Granny that game. 2) I'm trying to get Tyler Townsend and his 18 HRs as a clean-up hitter. 3) Manny's too busy now as the backup Marlins writer. The CC that showed up to FIU Stadium last year for the Louisiana-Monroe game, ironically enough, is a lawyer.

alt7787: Pete I have some marlins questions if you dont mind answering. 1) Have you heard anything about the Marlins bringing in another pitcher to take over Andrew Miller's spot? The taylor kid is ok, but he is definitely only a temp solution. plus even andrew miller wasnt the best starting pitcher. 2) Have you ever met Rich Waltz or Tommy Hutton? dont know why i ask. guess ive just been watching too many marlins broadcasts lately. they grow on you.

PP: Don't mind at all. 1) Andrew Miller (right) will be back in his spot when he's healthy. They will use Taylor for now. The pitcher that could challenge for Miller's spot eventually is lefty Sean West, who is 6-8 andAmiller throws in the mid-90's. He's currently at Double A Jacksonville, but is off to a so-so start at 2-2 with a 6.39 ERA. 2) Yes, have met them, both good guys.

c-UM: Pete, if possible, could you give us some stats on the baseball signees that were listed in the article on FIUsports.com a couple months ago?

PP: Listing the stats of all the players -- the two highest ranked of the FIU class are Texas slugger Rudy Flores (left) and Orlando's Jabari Henry -- takes up too much space, but here is the Flores link to the release on the FIU sports website: New FIU 2010 ballplayers They have all the stats for the players in the linked article.

ridgepanther: what is the time frame on renovations? two years?

PP: The arena renovations (new entrance, new FIU locker rooms and players lounge, new seating and courtside seating and floor) are expected to take 2 years.

Apaw

PG needs your help (well, not really) but what's your take on UM begging to play FIU again?

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You can't bother remembering my name yet you bother taking the time out of your busy day to respond? Yet I'm invisible in every respect. Just admit it, you messed up. You aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer. You don't even know what my name means, and have yet to bother looking it up regardless of how I've mentioned to someone only a few hours ago to look it up.

You might move up to a bigger conference, you might not. I know it's not the ACC or the SEC. Only shot is the Big East, and USF is already bitter with your AD for the bush league move he pulled with them.

Your facilities are average, I've seen your stadium and until the building plans are completed, if ever, you won't even know what the final product looks like. The FIU law school is weak and carries a 4th tier ranking as well, and on top of that won't even crack top tier for 25 years, if ever. The med school has had a whole set of issues which they have just seemed to finally resolve, and you still don't see what kind of product they produce.

But please, speculate as to how I am in my professional life, because the fact of the matter is that majority of those in my profession who do matter could care less about about a run of the mill state institution, much less FIU.

Fomenter, I must admit, you are definitely a self-indulging wiener. You've just confirmed it. I know plenty about the law but wish not to discuss it with the likes of you until you get the proper education. A school in New York? What are your ties to UM then? Why the obsession to come to an FIU blog and rant about nonsense? Are you that deprived of attention that you need to get it online?

What would you like to discuss? The legal environment, domestic/international law, international torts and negligence, professional malpractice, tort liability based on fraud, foreign affairs, international arbitration? So you'll now counter with "you got that from wikipedia". No way to discuss legal topics here, not to mention this is a sports forum and I'd rather not school you here for the sake of the other bloggers. Actually, the truth is you're not worth my time. Just as you're degree wasn't worth your money, you are not worth my time. Although I like your dark style a bit, but perhaps you should focus your negative energy to more productive matters, such as winning a legal case or two. Good luck with that, I highly doubt your arrogance has gotten you anywhere in the legal profession. But maybe I'm wrong. Just as maybe you're wrong about the future of FIU athletics.

Oh yes Chris, Cornell Go Big Red, and if you are so sure about the numbers I suggest you revisit your opinion about UM law school, because last time I checked UM was in the 70s and UF at 51, a spot ahead of FSU and is going to be jumped by them soon as well. Not that big of a difference, especially for students looking for work in Miami, but if you do see it as such how do you compare UF, FSU and UM's program to FIU?

Don't be jealous my friend, like you said, lighten up. You take yourself too seriously. Still want to avoid the defamation issue? Is your foot still in your mouth? Are you going to avoid the issue thinking I wouldn't hold you to your factually incorrect error. Torts 101 my friend.

Actually Chris my ties to the South Fla. community is me being born and raised and attending a fine private educational institution not a few miles from your illustrious school.

I'm a FSU fan strictly, and was directed to this blog by an ex-girlfriend who went to FIU, which actually made me chuckle and encouraged me to participate in it.

I love how you say I'm not worth your time, but here you are three hours later still pounding away on your keyboard. You're so much wiser, yet took you three + hours to figure that out?

You're right not a legal forum, yet you bring up defamation,and were obviously wrong? Ready to admit that yet, or are you prepared to school me? Please don't take pity on the other bloggers and use them as a scapegoat for your obvious error. So let's see you don't want to get into it until I reach a certain level of education, which I clearly have attained and surpassed your own, then it's not a sports forum and you, being the ever philanthropist, consider fellow bloggers, then all of a sudden not worth your time. Are you tired of hopping from one foot to the next?

You're right about one thing. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you're wrong, but I know I absolutely obliterated you with your defamation point.

Jealous?? No, actually I have a well respected job at a well respected firm. No need for details, but my degree has gotten me just as far as yours has gotten you and I'm not in debt up to my eyeballs.

We'll leave it at that. As I said before, maybe we'll have that legal chat in the future.

And yes I'm rather amused at your posts. I certainly haven't taken your comments to heart since I know they're flawed. All that nonsense you spewed tonight was rather entertaining.

You're such a kind and considerate soul. Way to avoid details and addressing my flawed arguments, without pointing out to how they were flawed since obviously they weren't. Have yourself a good one, I'm sure you're extremely proud of yourself, if you ever need outside advice, you know where to find me.

Take time out of my busy day? Check the clock, it's past 1AM, I'm responding out of pure entertainment and fascination with the egos of feeble-minded folk. My "speculation" has little to do with the current state of our stadium or the ranking of our law school, have some foresight, or even foreskin, I know both of which are hard for lawyers to come to grasp with, or not. My question to you is, why are you here? Why do you exist on my computer screen? Explain yourself and disprove all that I've said, share with us why a highly touted Cornell and crimiNOLE ambulance chaser has such a keen interest in FIU athletics and, seemingly, all things FIU. But let me spare myself the response and effort refreshing this blog and answer for you - insecurity offset by a poorly founded superiority complex complimented by increasing social anxiety caused by unfamiliarity or possibly even discrimination in the local community you attempt to do business in, all of which you associate with the sole public university of Miami. Sad. I bid adieu.

Don't worry, I had no debt, father was a legacy there so it was basically a free ride. Can't say the same for my malcontent brother though, he actually transferred from UM to OSU, which was weird and still overpriced.

It's a given your ex is smart considering she went to FIU...actually, I have to say, if nothing else, you probably have good taste in women considering FIU has many attrative ladies. That's about the only positive characteristic you have.

Other than that, I can see why she's your ex. But that's neither here nor there. Have a good one.

Again scum, take my name and put it in Webster's. Attain the definition and you'll see what I'm doing. It's purely entertainment and joy for me.

You couldn't comprehend the "take time out of your busy day" for sarcasm?

I can't even respond to your Freud-ian analysis. Social anxiety caused by unfamiliarity? Possible discrimination? As a minority (Hispanic) a find that hysterical.

FIU is the sole public university of Miami? Shouldn't you have to be in Miami to be considered that?

Oooh the gut shot by chris. Throw in the towel ladies, he's done and brings nothing to the table!

You're right again, I do have good taste in women, and FIU does have a plethora of beautiful women, I've got to give you that. As far as why she's my ex it's pretty self explanatory. She's the typical FIU girl. My wife puts her to shame, physically and intellectually.

Fomenter wrote:

I like the fact that Fanatic is my own little follower/stalker. He literally likes to follow me around, after saying multiple times things like "See you later" or "Good day" and yet he keeps coming back.

Now, he tells chrisfiu:

"Have yourself a good one"....

Oops!

Talk about follower...lol.....Please, stop it!

Got to love Fanatic. So if I'm a follower, what exactly are you?

Fomenter...shouldn't you be pleasing your wife right now??? I'm just wondering how sad your life must be that your hot FIU girlfriend canned you and now your pretend wife is alone in bed. Haha!!

Chris, Wife is asleep and its the time of the month my friend, even the bravest man knows those are tumultuous waters, at best

LMAO...

Shouldn't you be prepping for a big day at your well respected job tomorrow? Or beating away all the female suitors with a stick?

Somehow I doubt that's the case...

FIU is on the rise kid, so be prepared to come to this blog more often. Till next time...

I don't sleep, it's part of my company's culture. In any case, that's what busy adults do...they work.

No doubt it's on the rise, I just disagree with it being a premiere program. Their ceiling is a lot lower than you guys would think, just wearing your blue and gold glasses. Just doesn't have the surrounding support to make it possible. Thanks for calling me a kid, as someone approaching their over the hill era, I find it comforting. Unless that is the slang most of the youth still use, which makes it a bit humorous.

i know maaaannn....

formenter, you've got a lot of time on your hands for a damned attorney.

Great, we both agree on something! FIU is on the rise! We can definitely build on that, and build we shall!

Go Golden Panthers!

Again, champion. Re-read my first post. Back from vacation, and it's Tuesday. Do you think I'm going to give up my remaining week of vacation? Not likely.

I know what chris means about the not sleeping, but when I first broke into the field it wasn't because I was spending time on a blog, not that there was much blogging going on.

Fomenter,

Don't have time to get into a war of words with you, but thought I should share the following with you and the board. This isn't the first time this happens, and with a few more we'll likely join 1st tier status sooner than later. Sorry to burst your bubble...

Florida International University law graduates do well on state bar exam
Law school claims bragging rights in state

South Florida Sun-Sentinel
April 27, 2009

Florida International University's law school may not have the national prestige of a Harvard or Yale, but February bar exam results show it's doing something right.

The 6 1/2-year-old FIU College of Law led the state and likely exceeded the national average for passing the Florida Bar Exam with 22 out of 27 students passing, a success rate of 81.5 percent. This after scoring a state record of 97% in February 2007.

Stetson University in DeLand was a close second at 80 percent.

Farther behind were the more established law schools, with Florida State University at 65 percent, the University of Florida at 64.9 percent and the University of Miami at 61.1 percent. The state average was 70.7 percent. This is the second time in as many years that the University of Miami placed towards the bottom half in the Florida bar exam passing rates.

But I vehemently disagree about anything in football. You only play 12 game per year. To waste it on FIU?
Posted by: Really? | May 05, 2009 at 03:47 PM

As opposed to wasting it on Charleston Southern or FAMU? Thank god for having to play a divsion II program each year, if not you'd actually have to play 12 games a year. Don't think I'm advocating that FIU and UM play in football. I rather that they did not. Not for a couple of years.

As opposed to wasting it on Charleston Southern or FAMU? Thank god for having to play a divsion II program each year, if not you'd actually have to play 12 games a year.

Posted by: FIUrulez | May 06, 2009 at 08:54 AM

FAMU and Charleston Southern have proven they can be on the same field as UM without resorting to cheap shots and body slamming of our place kicker. Which was the point I was trying to make.

But I am glad that you mentioned "Don't think I'm advocating that FIU and UM play in football. I rather that they did not. Not for a couple of years" as it flies in the face of Chrisfiu's "speculative survey" which shows EVERYBODY wants this to currently happen.

On topic about that.....every UM fan I've spoken to (and I do mean EVERY fan) does not want this game to occur explicitly due to the brawl. I do have a few friends that have / are attending FIU who also agree.

Fomenter:

Attacking FIU ?? A University that is still settling in and growing up after 35 years ??

Time & Thought (paramount for any successful lawyer)...somehow you feel compelled to invest your TIME & THOUGHT to this BLOG and disparage FIU ??

This whole FIXATION with FIU as an irrelevant school is just Soooooooo tired. Now, I hope my boys go to Tallahassee and steal one from the NOLES tonight.

Sir, go pop another CIALIS - I guarantee that's more fun than ASEXUAL BLISS you get from ripping us on here.

Come on u scared little chickens in Coral Gables, step up and play your big brother in ALL THREE major sports or GET LOST!

Really?

You must be "Really" out of your mind to even think that FIU athletics is a waste of time. I'll show you "Facts" since you think someone that graduated from college can't do:

1)Who is the school that came up with the laime excuse about "it would not make financial reason to play each other". Hello are you guys planning to take airplanes for the 8 mile journey?

2) From what I understand FIU has better teams (this year) then UCG in Cross/Volleyball/Softball/Tennis/I'm probably missing one more..

3) I think other then men's soccer, every team at FIU has made drastic improvements in the last 2 years.

4) Our athletic department does not need to pay "Rent" to play a football game. And our endzones have our proud name written on them, while you guys have "Go Dolphines!"

5) The only one I can give to you will be the amazing difference of energy that your mascot has during games compared to ours. Wake up Roary!

6) If FIU athletics was not important why is there more then 40 postes that deals with FIU Athletics (half of them by people that did not or will not ever step a foot into FIU)

7) Last but not least, I realize its hard for you to understand that as proud students, faculty, and alums we cheer for the school that we are a part of. How many classes are you taking at UCG.... Final Answer "NONE" Who is the poser now.

Get a life looser!

Go FIU!!

Formenter - i havent read everything on here (way too much; you guys are writing novels here), but from what ive seen while skimming throw it has made me laugh. You are another c-UM fan that needs to get up off the green/orange flag pole. UM is really not that great, overall, in academics. It is not like it used to be. The place is soooooo overrated and is def. not worth the money. Any smart financially savy/business man could tell you that... The only place i would say it may be worth it is their Tax Law graduate program(law school) and maybe their medical school. All you other "special" kids that just go there for the undergrad i must laugh at because you made a terrible investment, good luck with that...I know some people that have graduated from there and have done absolutely nothing (probably the dumbest kids i know)... YOU'RE COOL!!!! You went to UM!!! YEAHHHHHH (sooooo 1996, HA!)

Get over it UM. There is a new game in town.

Formenter Pt 2 - thanks for the offer of showing the 2-3 canes players blah, blah, blahhh, but that wasnt me that said that. Read the post buddy... Now go back to your angry self, rrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!

REally?,

ive tried to stay out of this back and fourth between you and the other FIU fans on this board.. but let me set you strait on one thing that you keep refering too... the "brawl"... now try to understand this cause i know you are already lookin to turn this back on me...

THE BRAWL HAPPENED W/ 2 LAME DUCK COACHING STAFF'S THAT LOST THEIR PLAYERS

Don Strock was already told he would not be renewed.. and Larry Chocker had the writing on the walls... neither team had coaches that new how to control the situation.. i.e. dicipline..

now did FIU start it ... sure lets say they did start the brawl, although there was constant jawing back and forth. However, lets not mistake that as if the "U" had done no wrong. reddick swinging the helmet, Merriweather stomping on a downed FIU player (forgive any possible mispelling of names.) so ya FIU players (strock's players) prob did start it but cokers players didnt do anything to stop it either.

now gettin to your point of speaking to "UM" fans and FIU students (who are probably your friends and are UM fans cause they havnt accepted FIU football because of being raised a cane... again something i know of being i was raised a cane) not wanting this series because of the "brawl" is a load of crap... ask any real FIU fan they will tell you that they would want the series cause in reality the series would be good for the community. and the fact that the "fans" you ask say because of the brawl obviously do not keep up w/ current events. both the FIU and UM coaching staffs are all about dicipline and accountability... so the "brawl" is still a poor excuse..

ill go one further on you the following year w/ the 2nd game of the series the players played a game that was perfectly fine.(the fans... rowdy on both sides lol still remembering 2 girls fighting e/o for a guy)

so your argument sir... is full of it.

Casual - i guess my other post got deleted or didnt go through. Quick Summary... YOU'RE WRONG buddy. Your boyfriend really? told me that all he could remember was the cheating scandal and didnt think there was anything about a LB that had any sexual battery or trouble with the law so i showed him 2 LBs that had similar issues. The other 1 i threw in for free bc it popped up. Im sure if i actually search i could find you much more, but i really dont care that much. Thanks for trying to contribute though. Dont let it happen again

Really?

You must be "Really" out of your mind to even think that FIU athletics is a waste of time. I'll show you "Facts" since you think someone that graduated from college can't do:

1)Who is the school that came up with the laime excuse about "it would not make financial reason to play each other". Hello are you guys planning to take airplanes for the 8 mile journey?

2) From what I understand FIU has better teams (this year) then UCG in Cross/Volleyball/Softball/Tennis/I'm probably missing one more..

3) I think other then men's soccer, every team at FIU has made drastic improvements in the last 2 years.

4) Our athletic department does not need to pay "Rent" to play a football game. And our endzones have our proud name written on them, while you guys have "Go Dolphines!"

5) The only one I can give to you will be the amazing difference of energy that your mascot has during games compared to ours. Wake up Roary!

6) If FIU athletics was not important why is there more then 40 postes that deals with FIU Athletics (half of them by people that did not or will not ever step a foot into FIU)

7) Last but not least, I realize its hard for you to understand that as proud students, faculty, and alums we cheer for the school that we are a part of. How many classes are you taking at UCG.... Final Answer "NONE" Who is the poser now.

Get a life looser!

Go FIU!!

UM baseball's coaching staff isnt full of discipline... The wrinkled, double chin, flamer they call Jimmy allows his team to chant profanity to the opposing team's head coach in front of women and small children... true ROLE MODEL

CJ, you bring up good points but a person like "Really?" won't understand. Brawl was unfortunate, but it's time to move on. It's water under the bridge. RS and MC wouldn't allow that to ever happen again.

GO FIU!!!

Wow, where to start.

Gooch7: Showing that great FIU reading comprehension (maybe english isn't your primary language), I said playing FIU in FOOTBALL was a waste of time. Period. Which basically nulls all your points. Although LOL at you hyping up Cross/volleyball/softball/tennis. Wow.

"1)Who is the school that came up with the laime excuse about "it would not make financial reason to play each other". Hello are you guys planning to take airplanes for the 8 mile journey?" ============== I could be mistaken, but the word that was used was "economical". Nevertheless, if you factor the hospital bill that would have to be footed by the university after your players mug ours, you'll see that the $20 PG would offer to play us would not offset the cost.

"4) Our athletic department does not need to pay "Rent" to play a football game. And our endzones have our proud name written on them, while you guys have "Go Dolphines!" ============ Actually, they don't have that in the endzone at all. Nice try

"7) Last but not least, I realize its hard for you to understand that as proud students, faculty, and alums we cheer for the school that we are a part of. How many classes are you taking at UCG.... Final Answer "NONE" Who is the poser now." ====== You're right, not taking any classes at Miami. That's because I graduated in '05.

Great comeback Really?, way to get him guy(or possibly girl)!!! Beware of Mr. Witty, he'll get you everytime.

CJ: A few things wrong with your post.

First of all, it was discovered (and I was actually pretty upset about it) that there was absolutely no intention of getting rid of Coker up until that fight. He had just been given a 5 year extension and UM did not want to pay that off. Coker later said that "that brawl was the reason to finally oust" him.

Secondly, "jawing" occurs all the time in football. What doesn't occur are the flagrant late hits which FIU had (2 at least, though probably 3 since I missed the first quarter and they had already said it had been going on, personal foul late hits out of bounds). The swinging of the helmets were during the fight. I don't count whatever happened during the fight as anything which is why I don't mention that FIU player who was swinging his crutches.

For you to say that its "water under the bridge" is total cr*p. It's not. Since 1997, Miami has had, what, 2 players arrested? That's one of the best records in college football. Yet as soon as someone brings up how relatively clean Miami's program has been, they get thrown back in their face "the brawl." Maybe you're over it because a bunch of talentless hacks were suspended from your team. Maybe you think its nothing since your team is never in the spotlight and doesn't have to deal with the constant barrage of attacks and put downs from lesser teams. But I can assure you, that Miami, and its fans, are not over it. It could be 20 years from now, and if FIU and Miami play again for the first time, you better believe its going to come back again.

As for your point about the "second game." You realize that was the most boring game to watch? No, it had nothing to do with bad offenses or good defenses or good discipline. It had to do with the fact that everybody was so on edge about the previous year that they were afraid to do anything. It was the most cordial and fake game I have ever witnessed. Don't think for a second that if a game is played again, it's going to be like that. Your just being delusional.

And lastly, for c-UM.

You obviously are a complete idiot, and I mean absolutely no offense by it, seriously. I just don't understand how many times I can explain it to you before you get it. You wrote that Miami has been in bad behaviour according to the law. You went as far as to say that "FSU seems to be surpassing" us.

First of all, the notion that Miami has been in trouble with the law is wrong. It was a comment reeking of pure ignorance I didn't even bother to argue it. My argument (in trying to be sarcastic - guess you missed it) was that at least you should have used UF not FSU.

You have NOT proven me wrong once. I never once told you that FSU has 0 arrests or that they have not been in trouble with the law recently. I was arguing that out of the two (UF and FSU) UF takes the cake. In fact, UF had 13 arrests two summers ago. They just had another 2 or 3 since the end of the football season this year. So your premise that "FSU seems to have recently surpassed Miami" is technically correct (since they have had more arrests over the last 10 years than Miami, but it doesn't show how UF has been in WAY MORE trouble in that same amount of time. Do you get it now or are you too incompetent?

Wrongggggg!!!! you're the idiot. I said you could throw FSU in the argument...Secondly, you DID say that all you could remember was the cheating scandal, not any LBs getting in trouble and then you gave me one of your fruit cake examples... Thirdly Mr. Incompetent, i never once joined your conversation about UF. You wont find UF in any of my post except this one, so maybe you just dont get it... Fourthly, we are talking about in school history, not last 10 years. And what i said was that Miami is known (whether through its past or whatever) as a univ. who's football program has had trouble with the law and NCAA. Read post before you try to post and think you're picking apart people. You're a phony, you're not Smart, so get over it... A for effort, F for content. YOU"RE DUMB! good luck

Really ? No Really ? Yes, Really !!! Huh ??

get lost scUM !!

c-UM: I'll try this ONE more time before I dub your legally retarded.

I first started posting here because an idiot FIU fan said something to the effect of "not like UM that has 2 to 3 players involved in drive by shooting PER SEASON." I laughed and asked for a link. You later responded with:

"There is no list needed, you and everybody else know that UM is wayyyy more known for being in trouble with the law then almost any other university in the US (FSU is battling with them lately though)."

1. Just saying it, doesn't make it so. You're wrong about UM getting into trouble with the law. And the fact that you can't really find any links should tell you something. Instead, you close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and refuse to be educated. That's your perogative.

2. Even if you provide a link to Robert Marve, or Reddick or (can't remember his name, the WR, damn forgot) since 1997, it still doesn't show how UM is constantly in trouble (which wasn't even the original point).

3. The point at hand. "FSU is battling with them lately though". LATELY is the operative word here. It means recently, as of late, etc. What I take from this statement is that FSU has gotten into just as bad of legal issues as UM. This is incorrect. It is a statement so shrouded in stupidity I didn't even bother to argue it. My response was, "you should have used UF to at least be more relevant to your post". How is this wrong? UF = 13 arrests 2 summers ago, 2 arrests since the end of this season. FSU (per your links) = 3 arrests since 2005. I KNOW there's more than that, but my point was you should have used UF to at least make it relevant. Stop being an F'in MORON, it was meant to be a sarcastic remark. Why is this going over your head?

Wait a sec.. I just read this part in your post "a phony, you're not Smart, so get over it... A for effort, F for content. YOU"RE DUMB! good luck". LMAO. My apologies, I didn't realize I was talking to a 5 year old. Carry on.

A canes fan is one dousche bag too many! We have a few of those on this forum.

Chrisfiu:

::Cue in snare drum cadence::

Good one tough guy.

Wait really!!!!

You haven't addressed my post!

Really, you haven't. lol

LOL geez, too much hostility here. Where's the love...

Actually, don't pat yourself on the back just yet. You're just as big an idiot as they come. You see, you too tend to mix facts, but I'll address your comments later.

Are you a complete loser??? I guess the national recognition of "ThugU" just came out of nowhere. Come on guy!!!... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080319101047AAvLtSf .... or maybe you like something like this: The following was excerpted from TIME magazine:

The roll call of the past couple of decades at the U. of Miami is mournfully striking. A year ago this month senior Hurricane defensive lineman Bryan Pata was shot in the head and killed outside his apartment near UM's Coral Gables campus shortly after a practice. Four months earlier safety Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks outside his Miami home. A year before that, former defensive end Jerome McDougal was shot in the abdomen in Miami in his new Mercedes just weeks before reporting to training camp for the Philadelphia Eagles. (Cooper and McDougal survived.) In 1996, linebacker Marlin Barnes was bludgeoned to death in his campus apartment. Four years earlier Shane Curry, an Indianapolis Colts defensive lineman and former UM star, was shot in the head and killed during an argument in a Cincinnati lounge parking lot.

In 2003 Al Blades, 26, a former UM safety, was killed when the car he was riding in — and which witnesses say was racing another at high speeds — crashed into a Miami canal. A year before that 'Canes linebacker Chris Campbell, who had just finished his last UM season, was killed when his speeding car struck a tree in Coral Gables.

Because this is the University of Miami — whose football team's outlaw reputation prompted Sports Illustrated 12 years ago to call for the program to be shut down amidst a corruption scandal totaling more than $600,000 — it's hard not to ask if the tragedies somehow stem from the reckless culture that coaches and administrators have too often indulged. The team rocketed to prominence in the 1980s by showcasing what fans and critics alike called thug-ball, a smash-mouth gridiron style that seemed to reflect the city the Hurricanes played for: Miami in the era of Vice, of violent cocaine cowboys and shamelessly venal politicians. Controversial rap music star Luther Campbell of the Miami group 2 Live Crew offered "bounties" to UM players who could knock opposing players out of a game with an injury. Whenever Notre Dame played UM, the game was billed as Catholics vs. Convicts.

That aura often followed Hurricanes players off the field and into the NFL. Pro Bowl wide receiver Michael Irvin (UM Class of 1988) almost had his brilliant career derailed with the Dallas Cowboys when he was arrested in 1996 for cocaine possession, busted in a motel suite while sharing the coke with women he called "self-employed models." (He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to probation.) Pro Bowl linebacker Ray Lewis (who left UM in 1996) was arrested in 2000 for alleged involvement in the murder of two men outside an Atlanta nightclub. The murder charges against Lewis were eventually dropped. But such incidents highlight how Hurricanes alumni pioneered the kind of off-field legal trouble so many NFL players are known for today. Taylor, who in his short NFL career was fined at least seven times for infractions like late hits during games (once spitting in an opponent's face), was arrested in 2005 for threatening with a gun a group of people he accused of stealing his all-terrain vehicle. He later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault charges. Shortly after the altercation, Taylor's SUV was sprayed by bullets in a drive-by shooting, although no one was injured.

The recruiting standards of most major college football programs are a cynical joke when it comes to scholarship and character; UM football is known for being less scrutinizing than most 17th-century pirate vessels. But when former Hurricanes coach Larry Coker in 2004 recruited a Miami teen, linebacker Willie Williams, whose arrest record was longer than his high school transcript..."

And on and on it goes...

and the whole point of my FSU thing was, even though i said lately bc they have had cheating scandal, shopping mall issue, 2 LBs, gambling, etc..., that in addition to their past has them getting up there... Maybe i should of re-worded it to please you. Then again, with comments like "oh sorry, i didnt know i was dealing with a 5 year old", its really not even worth it.

Quijote:

?? Am I missing something, I don't see a post from you to me.

c-UM: I officially dub you legally retarded. Not a single one of those shootings had to do with their past lives or wheverever you were going with it. A car accident? You act like anybody who has been involved in a car accident is because they are thugs. Man you are stupid.

The moniker "ThugU" was given to us because of our actions in the 80's. If we lived in the 80's I would absolutely agree with you. Thug U would be a very accurate depiction of UM back in the 80's. Or even in the early 90's (1992 Cotton Bowl with 202 penalty yards mostly by way of flagrant personal fouls).

But this is 2009. You used the word "LATELY" and you can't find me anything for the last 12 years. My gosh you are ignorant. What a completely worthless post. Still waiting on a link to anything I discussed. Keep talking about the 80's. And you FIU penthugs talk about Miami living in the past. Wow

As always it's been fun. I'm out. Keep dancing around the subject c-UM. As your handle implies, that's exactly what you should have remained on your fathers dress.

First of all, it was discovered (and I was actually pretty upset about it) that there was absolutely no intention of getting rid of Coker up until that fight. He had just been given a 5 year extension and UM did not want to pay that off. Coker later said that "that brawl was the reason to finally oust" him.

Posted by: Really? | May 06, 2009 at 03:52 PM

ok my turn since this will develop into a back and fourth

1st point about coker... ok ill give you the ADMINISTRATION DID NOT WANT TO GET RID OF HIM CAUSE OF HIS REDICULOUSLY LARGE CONTRACT. but be real with yourself. you cannot tell me that there wasnt a public out cry for his job well before the brawl.. the brawl was just the icing on the cake... either way even coker said that the season after the Ohio State theft (i like you think the U was robbed) he had fans asking him that the following year wouldnt be as bad...

granted some fans need to get a reality check and know the good times dont always keep on coming.

and trust me when i say there was an outcry cause i was normally in defense of coker cause i know that the Miami fans are overly unrealistic.

Sean T is excused from this whole conversation though... He was a good friend and really was portrayed incorrectly by the media. Big kid in a mans body

Secondly, "jawing" occurs all the time in football. What doesn't occur are the flagrant late hits which FIU had (2 at least, though probably 3 since I missed the first quarter and they had already said it had been going on, personal foul late hits out of bounds). The swinging of the helmets were during the fight. I don't count whatever happened during the fight as anything which is why I don't mention that FIU player who was swinging his crutches.

Posted by: Really? | May 06, 2009 at 03:52 PM

2nd point.. you are 100% right about jawing during the games... it happens everywhere and it should not peak the way it did. however, to not count the swinging of the helmet or the stomping on a downed players is REDICULOUS. if you and me get in a fist fight we go down to the jail hall for assult. when you swing any object it becomes assult w/ a deadly weapon. so to completely excuse the helmet is a load of CR*P. as for you mentioning the FIu player on the crutches... you seem not to mention that he was physically on crutches didnt happen to see the fact that he was getting charged by UM players. that in my book is pretty low. he wasnt swingin it as reddick was swinging his helmet.. one is self defense the other is attack get your Sh*t Strait

I post the piece from the Times. everything on there may not be relevant. You are obviously "special", trying to pick at everything. and from the sounds of it have UM way too deep in you to see the truth (its not healthy for your eyesight buddy)...AREEEE YOOOUUUU JOOOOOKKKKINNGGGG MEEEE!!!!! Read my F*(*IN POST LOSER!!! you're wasting my time here. I have repeatedly said that i was talking about UM past, present, future, all time, history, etc... And your "moniker Thug U" is still associated with UM. Ask any random person what school is known as Thug U and they'll tell you UM. Look for your own links, its not that tough. You, me, everybody in the world know they are out there.

Fomenter,

Don't have time to get into a war of words with you, but thought I should share the following with you and the board. This isn't the first time this happens, and with a few more we'll likely join 1st tier status sooner than later. Sorry to burst your bubble...

Florida International University law graduates do well on state bar exam
Law school claims bragging rights in state

South Florida Sun-Sentinel
April 27, 2009

Florida International University's law school may not have the national prestige of a Harvard or Yale, but February bar exam results show it's doing something right.

The 6 1/2-year-old FIU College of Law led the state and likely exceeded the national average for passing the Florida Bar Exam with 22 out of 27 students passing, a success rate of 81.5 percent. This after scoring a state record of 97% in February 2007.

Stetson University in DeLand was a close second at 80 percent.

Farther behind were the more established law schools, with Florida State University at 65 percent, the University of Florida at 64.9 percent and the University of Miami at 61.1 percent. The state average was 70.7 percent. This is the second time in as many years that the University of Miami placed towards the bottom half in the Florida bar exam passing rates.

For you to say that its "water under the bridge" is total cr*p. It's not. Since 1997, Miami has had, what, 2 players arrested? That's one of the best records in college football. Yet as soon as someone brings up how relatively clean Miami's program has been, they get thrown back in their face "the brawl." Maybe you're over it because a bunch of talentless hacks were suspended from your team. Maybe you think its nothing since your team is never in the spotlight and doesn't have to deal with the constant barrage of attacks and put downs from lesser teams. But I can assure you, that Miami, and its fans, are not over it. It could be 20 years from now, and if FIU and Miami play again for the first time, you better believe its going to come back again.

Posted by: Really? | May 06, 2009 at 03:52 PM

3rd: o get over it the U has always been considered thug U dating back to the ND series.. so to tell me that your being looked on poorly is crap... you had that rep before and granted sometimes there not merited but you still had it. but dont tell me that FIU fans dont care cause we were never on the spot light. before that we never had the spot light and the first impression that FIU gets is we are a bunch of thugs. what did FIU do... out of the 31 people only was it... 13 maybe were suspended for 1 game... FIU suspended the difference for multiple games and 2 were kicked of the team.. that effected us greatly throughout the season. but it is still an irrelevent point being as both the coaches that lost control of the teams are no longer there nor are the players

As for your point about the "second game." You realize that was the most boring game to watch? No, it had nothing to do with bad offenses or good defenses or good discipline. It had to do with the fact that everybody was so on edge about the previous year that they were afraid to do anything. It was the most cordial and fake game I have ever witnessed. Don't think for a second that if a game is played again, it's going to be like that. Your just being delusional.

Posted by: Really? | May 06, 2009 at 03:52

lastly: the excitement of the game had nothign to do w/ everyone being on edge.. it had everything to do w/ the fact that UM was more talented that year.. we barely had an idea of what we had. as a matter of fact it did get exciting towards the end cause FIU actually scored on the U and made the score closer small victories my friend. as for if the game will be like the last game no .. i dont think so i think it will be more competative.. your are goin to see a few flags thrown cause these kids all grew up plaing e/o so ya there is still something there bgut if you think its goin to be like the brawl it is you who is delusional

Really? U r sUcH a ToOl........

You guys need to stop being such big "ENTER ANOTHER NAME FOR A CAT THAT STARTS WITH a P(plural)" and get over all the dumb excuses... Just play the d@mn game and thats it. UM is making this thing like a presidential election or something.

Fomenter?? And i thought i had a stupid name...Real clever Mr. Fomenter...No wonder why your hot FIU ex gf (One time for the college with the hottest girls baby) dumped u!!! Now about your new gf...I don't think Manuela counts homeboy...You are ridiculous and your arguments are nonsense...Here are the facts:

1) FIU is on the rise...Were actually getting better each year in football, baseball, basketball...Unlike UM which is going backwards...In my opinion MC is a better coach than Randy...TT is a better coach than JM...And Isiah is a way better coach than Haith or whatever that marshmallow's name is...Time will prove me right on this especially with Isiah...I wont even talk about FSU, ur suppose alma mater because they are irrelevant...Up north its UF that rules...

2) FIU stadium is a crown jewel...Have u ever been there? Its beautiful and its not even finished yet...It can only get better as they finish it..Havent heard one person yet who has disagreed on this...For the UM haterz of FIU: Where is UM playing? lol Dolphins stadium or should i say Landshark stadium...Pathetic...Talk about one of the worst stadiums for college...lame

3) FIU did not start the brawl in 06...UM was trash talking the whole game...That UM touchdown before the brawl where the player bowed down to the fans...Now thats total classless...Not to mention when they began using criminal tactics like swinging a helmet at a FIU player or using cleats to stomp on a FIU player's leg...

4) You have no life Mr. $30k a year lawyer...haha

At least I have a job!!!

CJ:

1. Trust me. I was very PO'ed when I heard it too. I didn't want to believe it, but yes, our former AD (the pig F'er from UF) and Shalala did not want to fire Coker up until that game, even WITH the public outcry. That game showed that Coker was not in control of the team and it gave a nasty black eye to the program....the only reason Shalala pulled the plug.

2. I'm not arguing nor excusing the events of the fight. I was trying to get you to focus on my problem, the LEAD UP to the fight. That's what I meant. However, since you did mention it. Don't for a second say that guy on the crutches was just defending himself. He ran (hobbled?) into the middle of the field and then started swinging his crutches at the UM players. Self-defense would have been that he was on the sidelines and a UM player ran over there and started swinging at him. Seriously, don't play that game or you'll seriously lose credibility with me.

3. Thug U has been our moniker. I never said it wasn't. However, just because the media and rival moron fans use it, doesn't really show the REALITY that PRESENTLY we are one of the cleanest programs in the nation. I was going to simply call out that moron FIU fan that started this whole back and forth, show him he's an idiot by pointing out our record, and then I was going to go on my merry way. So, once again, call us Thug U all you want, it's part of our reputation. But if you want to talk facts, I suggest you check it at the door.

4. FSU and UM kids also played against each other in HS. You don't see brawls happening every year do you? The problem was, that the last two times we played, FIU kids were the rejects. Kids that couldn't get into any good schools. They saw their friends that played with them head into UM and they got envious. Tempers flared, and you got what happened. The reason I'm saying to let it cool for a long time is to allow FIU to handle their own affairs. Let them get their own reputation. Let them recruit their own kids and not just the left overs. You do that, and you'll have a rivalry. But until that happens, you're going to get resentment.

I have no doubt in my mind that the decision to not play FIU goes all the way up to Shalala. She's trying to clean up the image at the U. Plain and simple. The last thing she wants is to see the football team get into another fist fight against a team that really doesn't serve a purpose to play. Yes I know FAMU and Charleston Southern don't serve a purpose either, but there's no risk in tempers flaring up there. FIU gets big enough, things might get interesting. But this whole "UM is scared," lol. Just look at our first 4 games next season and tell me if UM is scared to play anyone anytime. And trust me, UF and FSU stealing local talent is more dangerous than the "sleeping giant" FIU.

I make over $150k a year & im an FIU alumni...I'll be more than happy to exchange buisness cards at the Publix...Then we can see who is more successful...OH and CandyCane, since u like being a part of FIU so much, why dont u be the judge...

Btw here are some more FIU facts for u:

1) Miami-Dade Mayor: Carlos Alvarez, FIU alumnus

2) City of Miami Mayor: Manny Diaz, FIU alumnus

3) City of Coral Gables Mayor: Donald Slesnick, FIU almunus...Just to name a few

FIU alumni run Miami---dont forget that!! We are taking over!!

Fomenter paid 10x what it would have cost him to get the same (or in most cases) a BETTER education at FIU. What does that make him? Either a truly biased UM fan with rich parents or a financial idiot.

Be easy ArrozConPollo, the scUMheads got Gloria Estefan. That's a tough one to compete against.

Someon brough Sean T. and I agree he was a good guy, and that was very unfortunately. But can someone please tell me why his memorial service was at FIU not at ucg?

This blog is getting stupid, name calling, showing off earnings, wtf is that? Seriously Pete where's the claw??

ArrozConPollo:
I think you may have missed a few alumni.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Miami_alumni

Also kinda funny, didn't know it until now, but guess where the current mayor of Miami got his JD degree.

Just sayin...

Whoops meant to say scUMsanitizer. Meh.

Casual - where you trying to prove a point by posting that link? Not sure if you're for or against scUM...Steve-O? lol. If anything at all, that list just proves how much athletics has meant and still means to that university, which I guess only makes the fall for alumni and fans that much harder, hence the responses by said folk on this blog. Sad yet satisfying.

Sometimes these FIU haterz do get under our skin, but hopefully everyone understands that this whole discussion is just in fun...Maybe sometimes it gets a little heated and yea even stupid, but there are good points being made...

About the Sean Taylor memorial, all i can say is that he was a good man...Even a hero in my opinion...So for FIU to hold his funeral and not ucg, it just shows how much class that U has...

I think FIU has great academic programs, especially in the life sciences. During my freshman year, I knew a dental student who had transferred from the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, and he told me that FIU's biology courses were generally harder than those at Michigan. I am proud to be an FIU student!

Fomenter, why must you insult Pete? He has a passion for what he does. Just because he is not a doctor or a lawyer does not mean that he is a failure. I have a lot of respect for someone who pursues a career they truly enjoy. All the power to Pete for doing something he loves.

Casual observer u need to think more critically...Obviously FIU law school just began a few years ago, so of course the mayor of Miami would not have his JD from FIU, it did not exist...The only reason i brought up a few FIU alumni was to show how FIU alumni are CURRENTLY in important positions in Miami (more than ucg by the way)...What u are not realizing is that Ucg is a thing of the past and is slowly being overtaken by FIU...Realize that Ucg no longer has a monopoly in Miami...There are no longer people who are being brought up Canes by default...Now they have a choice...FIU now has a football team that is improving fast every year...Realize that there is no longer an OB (Miami's community stadium) but instead a lame Dolphins Stadium...Realize FIU has a NEW stadium (future Miami's community stadium)...Realize things change...Just like blacks were once slaves to whites in this country...Now a black man runs this country...I know its hard to accept the truth casual observer, but this is reality...Whats happening at FIU is unstoppable!!!

ArrozConPollo :

I have absolutely no idea what your last diatribe has to do with anything, so I'm not quite sure how to respond. I'll just simply ignore it.

scUMsanitizer:

I am for UM. The list I gave you was to show that we have more alumni than Gloria E. Yeah I know you were trying to be funny with your post, but the reality of it all is that you fell quite short. FIU boasts how many alumni again? In the 100k? Yet this private university has more current successful alumni than your school.

So your point is that FIU graduates more local talent? Well congratulations. Hispanics, going to a predominantly hispanic university, to graduate and become mayors in a hispanic speaking region. Meanwhile, UM graduates go on nationwide to become leaders in their communities. I'm not trying to incite anyone, I was just pointing out that your sarcasm fell on deaf ears. The truth is, UM has produced a lot more top talented alumni than FIU. Could that change? Maybe. I mean if you throw enough rocks out there sooner or later you'll hit something.

I did also chuckle at the Steve-O ref. (attended, but did not graduate). Nevertheless, in terms of popularity, more people HAVE heard of him more than they have of Manny Diaz. Just saying

Casual Observer:

"I mean if you throw enough rocks out there sooner or later you'll hit something"

Uh...same was said about UM's grads before FIU was around...lol

Nice try Casual Observer, but the reality is FIU grads are taking on key roles more and more, not only in South Florida but across the nation. Granted, the number of FIU grads in key roles outside of South Florida isn't large, but that number has and will continue to increase slowly. It's inevitable, just give FIU a little more time.

"Yet this private university has more current successful alumni than your school"

Uh...it's expected given the strong network that UM has developed since its inception in the 1920s.

Not a bad post Casual Observer, just keep in mind that given FIU's short history, its alumni have done quite well.

Well it seems as if I've gotten under a person's skin and he decided to try and mock me through impersonation. Great, stroke the ego, lad. My last post here was at about 1:44 a.m. on May 6th. I'm sure Pete knows due to the email address associated with my name.

c-UM. If I mistook your comment for someone else I totally apologize. My error.

Quijote. Congrats on your law school doing well preparing their kids for the bar exam. Now, if you can only shed that pesky 4th tier ranking and not have your graduates' resumes tossed in the can by the majority of big firms, you'd be on equal footing with the big 3 law schools in the state.

Cabin - My comments towards Pete is a direct criticism towards the job he is doing. When he blatantly lies, as a journalist, he should be called out for it. As should radio/t.v. personalities, etc.

Arroz con pollo - You do know that the majority of UM's students aren't from South Florida and end up going back home? Food for thought. And as far as UM starting the fight, at the risk of being redundant, it's obvious FIU began it. And the fact that you people defend Ned for being involved, when he's in mid field swinging crutches is laughable at best. You're going to say UM attack him first, which might be true, but it's not like they ran all the way to your sideline, attacked him, and waited for him to limp his way to midfield to begin another round.

And "homeboy"? Did you grow up in Westchester and go to Coral Park or Southwest? Do you wear backwards hats and say homie while you and your friends "ball". Keep talking like that, I'm sure you're respected by many.

And I've been to your stadium. I was actually there by halftime for your opening day game against USF, which you couldn't even fill up. Good job being on the rise. The truth of the matter is, FIU can only head in one direction, and when you are at the bottom of the pile, it's obviously up. But it's a cute and cozy stadium, if it was in Texas it might crack their top 100. Your stadium, as it stands right now, is a small notch above Lockhart. But it's cute, maybe one day you can fill it up. Here's a suggestion, get some of those die-hards and bring more than 1k fans to your rivalry game for the Shula trophy. It would fair a lot better. Also try to keep that student band. We know every school has one and if you want to be taken seriously you can't cut them and start rolling out DJ Laz to play your "Ole Ole Ole", which coincidentally has me in tears every time I hear it. The fact that FIU students care more about international soccer than their own football program is the icing on the cake, and the song is very fitting.

Thanks for the comments about the ex, too bad she wasn't good enough. I guess that's what happens when you date trash beneath you that is a product of the Miami Dade public school system, which ironically enough is your primary source for students.

But thanks for pegging my "income". I think I might spend that amount in donations to my alma matter, but hey, maybe I can just live off of your great income. I guess you don't have to worry about having your taxes raised under this new tax system. Oh, if we could only be so lucky....


Southpaw - Yea, I either went to UM or am a financial idiot. Ignore the part in which we discussed what school I've attended. As addressing your valuation of education, luckily for me my parents were smart and made me bust my butt. I didn't spend a dime to go to undergrad or law school. I was able to earn scholarships and grants, although it would have been affordable. Even took a nice trip to Europe after with the leftovers.

FIUPIKE - Thanks for the kind words, thankfully I don't need any cialis. How's that pike punch? Has it changed yet or are you still using it to try to get women that you couldn't pick up sober? Has your former member Dustin been stabbed again? Do you guys still have that cute own campus frat house for a largely commuter school?

Fomenter:

- "Well it seems as if I've gotten under a person's skin and he decided to try and mock me through impersonation"

It appears you have a gift of being incredibly annoying. But we FIU fans can tolerate you. We've learned it comes with the territory. I once heard that impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery. In this case, someone out there wants to be as annoying and arrogant as you, if that's possible.

- "Quijote. Congrats on your law school doing well preparing their kids for the bar exam. Now, if you can only shed that pesky 4th tier ranking and not have your graduates' resumes tossed in the can by the majority of big firms, you'd be on equal footing with the big 3 law schools in the state."

Equal footing with the big three law schools in Florida? That would be great considering our short history. Your comparison is weak considering the other three schools have been around far longer than FIU. But we shall close the gap in due time. After all, Cornell wasn't exactly an overnight success. So why would you expect any different with FIU? Unless your expectations of our school are set so high that by now you'd think (or hope) that it would be ranked with the big boys. That's perfectly fine and I'm incredibly flattered that you think so highly of the school's law program.

- "And I've been to your stadium. I was actually there by halftime for your opening day game against USF, which you couldn't even fill up. Good job being on the rise."

Sounds as if you follow FIU football. That's great and I encourage you to continue that same path. The program is only getting better and with time, you too will bleed blue and gold.

Congrats chris, on thinking you'll be top 50 one day, law wise. Pssst. Let me let you in on a little secret... ain't going to happen for another 25 years at best. By the way, go look at FSU's law program and find out how long they've been around. That should give you a target goal.

Sorry, I don't really follow FIU football anymore than I follow FAU football. Their programs, for the majority, just has reasonable expectations and realize they are a bottom rung school academically, and barely crack the top 60 football wise. Yours think you belong there by pure existence. Cute, and novel, but not enough. I follow all Florida football because it's one of my duties at my job.

Blue and gold...1/2 right. Garnet and gold is a lot better, and thus far, you can't say anything to say otherwise.

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