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GameDay LIVE! Philadelphia Flyers @ Florida Panthers ... Tomas Vokoun Gets New Mask

Flyersfishing Another slow news day down in Sunrise, the end effect of a team not playing for three or four days.

The Flyers are in town; the Panthers have changed up some of their lines. Scott Clemmensen is in net. The power play needs to get more shots and more goals. The penalty kill needs to cut down on goals.

All this we know.

So let's play hockey!

-- Tomas Vokoun has shedded his boring looking Panthers mask and gone with a little something more daring. Vokoun's old mask just had the Florida logo on it.

Vokmask2 His new one, which came in today, features a leaping Panther (which might make for an interesting third Vokmask3 jersey logo in the future if the one they are coming out with bombs) on both sides of the mask.

It's a cool looking take on the Panther logo since its full sized (although it still has small legs).

The top features the yellow sun from the shoulder patches minus the hockey stick and palm tree.

Vokmask4 The back of the mask has the tails of the leaping Panthers wrapping around the Czech flag.

It's pretty nice. Tomas seems to like it. And he says hello to all of you out there in cyberspace. OK, that part I made up.

See you at The Billboard...Vokmask1

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Stat to watch as the season wears on.
Going into the night of 10/16/09.
Vokoun $5.7mil 5GP 1-4-0 3.80GA .903%SP 0SHT
Anderson $1.5mil 7GP 5-1-1 1.99GA .940%SP 1SHT
Clemmensen $1.2mil ???????????????????

Reach your own conclusion on the key personnel decision of this past off-season.

These four and five day gaps between games are driving me nuts. I can't wait until they're back to three or four games in a week.

The comparison of Anderson to our team may or may not be fair. Colorado has some very talented players. Svatos, Hejduk, Wolski, Stasny.
We don't have the talent to match. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

If we can somehow create more scoring and actually apply pressure when we are in the offensive zone, then things change and then you can make a fair comparison.
Also, how many shots is Andy facing?
He's never been a number one goalie, and I wouldn't want to bet my playoff chances on him.

Although the savings vsersus Vokoun is tremendous, the problem is Vokoun has a terrible contract that makes it hard for him to be traded.
JM panicked on that deal, but we can't cry over that.
Don't care what anyone says, JM ruined this teams future and chances more than Keenan did.

Vokoun earned his pay last season. Top three performance as far as I'm concerned. This season, he's definitely not earning his pay yet but who is?

No way JM hurt the team more than Keenan. Let's keep things in perspective.

Andy isn't facing just a few shots, he's making high 20s/low 30s. He was 1st star and 3rd star in both games this week. He's been really good, and yes, he has a better group of FORWARDs in front of him. The young Avs' D has also played pretty well too. But there's an organization that can draft and knows when to trade its aging vets. Their ownership is also committed to winning 1st and foremost.

Andy is facing about 3 less shots a game than Vokoun this season. I don't think that's a significant difference. Last season, when I think Anderson outperformed Vokoun, they faced an almost identical number of shots per game average.

But you're totally ignorant to the superior support Anderson had from the entire team compared to Andy.

Vokoun gets hung out to dry against the Lightning and people like you want his head. Andy gets scored on FROM BEHIND THE GOAL LINE and the only complaint is that people don't think it crossed the line.

This should kick-start Vokoun :)

Stat to watch...Georgia Panther obsession with Anderson vs. Clemmensen winning in his Panthers debut.

Let's stop rehashing the could've on the Anderson and Vokoun thing. They are both really good goalies and Anderson earned the right to be a #1. Good for him, Vokoun now has a comparable goalie in Clemmensen to now keep him hustling.

Tonight's effort was awesome. Now the questions to ask is...does PDB stick with Clemmensen for Buffalo. If they truly are 1 and 1A he should, we will find out. If the team wins with you in, you should keep playing if they lose no more than 2 in a row with you in, then you should sit. Simple way to do it.

Then we can watch the REAL stats unfold, keeps both goalies motivated.

Stat to watch as the season wears on.
As of the morning of 10/17/09.
Vokoun $5.7mil 5GP 1-4-0 3.80GA .903%SP 0SHT
Anderson $1.5mil 7GP 5-1-1 1.99GA .940%SP 1SHT
Clemmensen $1.0mil 1GP 1-0-0 2.00GA .926%SP 0SHT
Reach your own conclusion on the key personnel decision of this past off-season.

lets face it Martin, Keenan and Dudley all had a hand in why this franchise has no depth.

As far as the win last night, it is amazing what happens when Horton is in the slot.

Horton has played three good games in a row. This is the first time since he was a rookie, I hope this continues and maybe he finally realizes what needs to be done to be successful in this league.

I wasn't able to watch, so the only info I have is what I read. It could have gone the other way, but somehow didn't and lets take the win. 5 days off now, enought time to either build on it, or revert to old ways.
Slow starts in games are a big problem and they seem to always have them with a layoff.

As for the Martin, Keenan, Dudley situations, yes they all had a hand in where we are. The problem is that Cohen changed his mind and that was why we ended up with all the changes.
When you hire Keenan either as a coach or GM, you better realize that he wants to win now, not in 5 years.
As for Martin, he had absolutely no business being a GM. His hanging on to Bouwmeester and getting virtually a six pack in return is evidence. That is why he set this team back further than anyone.
Before last season started, he had a boatload of offers and prospects/young players to grab.

Even a "Caveman" knew that Jay wasn't going to stay!

Panthers woke up from the daze. Panthers keep missing rebounds (they need to fix that). I think that Clem should stay in goal till he loses a game. Voukoun would make a nice Blackhawk, Cap, or Canadien - those are the teams who are horrible picking up bad goalie and are gullible to pick up Vokoun (Think Huet and Theodore). I liked seeing Booth at the net looking for deflections, hopefully he will learn to stay there.

P.S. STillman and Allen's should be benched.

Detroit needs some help in goal too...

We can rehash the past management and yes they've all affected where we are today. But the Bouwmeester Blunder has really screwed with this team. I wanted him traded last summer when they couldn't extend him - the writing was on the wall. That 1st round pick, prospect or whatever really could have helped the team this year. His loss has set up back and it's, unfortunately, going to take some time this year to adjust.

Nice to see the unpredictable Cats show up.. Kudos to the unsung Campbell and Booth setting some nice screens in front..Horton could've had another, but it was nice to see him look active and into the game...IF he can give some consistency, they have a chance.. The problem being is when you only show up 1/2 the time, your other games don't do anything to help the team...

By the way, it was funny to hear Geldy and Lindsay say how great they were playing, and they were only up 1...One bounce away from a new game...But I guess that's the desperation of this team--nothing easy...Take the 2 points and run...

Also, they will still need moves to get them out of this perennial underdog, less-talented, have-to-have everything go right to win team of ours...


No way the Habs trade for T-vo.. I could see the Hawks, Caps, or maybe even the FLyers, but we'd need to take salary back in return.. If Emery got hurt or struggled, we could take a Flyer package(Briere, VanRiemsdyk,Cote, Boucher for T-Vo and McCabe) including an overpaid Danny Briere.. Not that we want to take on bad contracts, but sometimes you have to sweeten the pot to try to get a 2 for 1, 3 for 2,etc type deal...

Clearly you've been living under a rock if you think the Hawks (or even Caps for that matter) are going to acquire Vokoun. Yeah, lets not forget his money due next year... the Hawks are already having to ship someone very valuable off...

Caps probably don't have the right kind of guys to give back in return, but the HAWKS have plenty...Not saying we should take bad contracts, but if that's the only way we can get quality players that they can't afford, then it's a Win-Win situation for both teams. Obviously, we'd have to deal with Huet's contract in return, but if they were willing to throw in Byfuglien and/or Sharp, it would probably be worth talking about...

Brian Campbell's contract is really bad and I'm sure they'd like to free up that space, but that's probably not doable...Huet's contract is bad also, so they'd have to give in return to get a favor like that off their books...

Stat to watch as the season wears on.
As of 10PM on 10/17/09.
Vokoun $5.7mil 5GP 1-4-0 3.80GA .903%SP 0SHT
Anderson $1.5mil 8GP 6-1-1 2.09GA .935%SP 1SHT
Clemmensen $1.0mil 1GP 1-0-0 2.00GA .926%SP 0SHT
Reach your own conclusion on the key personnel decision of this past off-season.

Save the Cheerleader, Trade Vokoun to Toronto.

It was great hearing and being one of the fans booing during the 1st period of the game. Man, they were terrible! It was GREAT to see them spark up for the final 40 mins of the game though--the BAC was LOUD and full of excitement again. Say what you will about fighting, but Campbell and Allens scaps boosted some life in to the team! If all play is like that to follow, the arena will be selling TICKETS again and not CELCIUS ENERGY DRINK!!

I dont why everyone seems forget how dumb the GM's are for the CAPS and HAWKS when it comes to goalies (or Panthers for that matter). Let's not forget that the HAWKS went through like 4 goalies last year, and Huet was not the starter during the playoffs because he played horrible during the season.

The CAPS have a problem with Theodore and Vally (cant seem to save shots that are high) -McPhee is also never happy with the goalie situation. They change goalies like diapers in DC.

The LEAFS are also having trouble in net right now due to an injury.

Why do you always want to trade Vokoun? Vokoun is an "AVERAGE" goalie with a big contract. This is the type of player that if he starts standing on his head than you trade him immediately for whatever you can get. Clem = Vokoun talent wise. No loss if Vokoun leaves FLA. Besides, if we dont have the talented players around an average goalie, we lose either way whether he is in net or not. This is what the mistake was with Ollie and Bou (they play average most of the time, and sometimes great....But mostly, average.) We should have traded them while they were playing well so we could capitalize and get better players. Instead we hold, and end up folding.


Ohhhhh That's why Vokoun has been losing!

Put him in Deboer. That mask will change everything!


P.S.

What about that third jersey?

Everyone who is saying Vokoun isn't earning his pay this season is obviously not watching the games. Vokoun is the only reason we've been close in most of the games so far this season. He's been nothing short of incredible and I think it's time to stop putting the blame on Vokoun and putting it more on the team to score more goals and play better hockey. As for comparing him to Anderson, Andy is facing nearly the same amount of shots, but he has a lot of depth in the scoring dept of his team to help win games, we don't. We have talent but they have to breakout and work harder for it.

Third jersey is coming in NOV!

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