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UF, FSU, USF: Which one-loss team is better?

GAINESVILLE -- There are two schools of thought right now regarding the BCS-member football teams in the Sunshine State.

1. UF, one of the top-ranked teams in the nation, is clearly better than everyone else.
2. Boil away the hype and UF (5-1) has one loss just like two other BCS-member teams in this football-mad state. Florida State is 5-1 and USF is 6-1.

UF is ranked No.5 in the Week 8 Associated Press poll. USF is ranked No.14 (up six spots) and FSU is back in the AP poll at No.23.

Comparing the three teams' defeats, UF's 31-30 loss against Ole Miss at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium now seems to be the worst loss of the three one-loss Florida teams. Ole Miss is 3-4 and the Rebels have lost two straight (South Carolina and Alabama) since upsetting the Gators.

USF lost to Pittsburgh at home but Pitt is now 5-1 and ranked No.17 in the country. It's too bad USF doesn't play UF, FSU or Miami this season.

FSU's only loss came on the road to Wake Forest (4-2), which was ranked No.19 in the AP poll last week. Wake Forest dropped out of the AP Top 25 on Sunday after losing to Maryland 26-0 on Saturday. Is Wake Forest turning out to be just another overrated ACC team?

While UF's loss to Ole Miss could be considered the worst defeat among the three one-loss BCS Florida teams, the Gators' 51-21 blowout of LSU is certainly the most impressive win of any team in the Sunshine State. FSU's best wins have been against a pair of three-loss teams (Colorado and Miami). USF's best win was against No.19 Kansas (5-2).

This much we do know:

1. Both UF and FSU have knocked off Miami.
2. Similar to UF's loss to Ole Miss, FSU's loss to Wake Forest was made possible by mistakes. FSU had seven turnovers in its loss to Wake. UF had three turnovers and several other defensive and special teams errors in the Gators' only loss of the season.
3. Of the three one-loss BCS teams in the state, only UF has beaten a team ranked in the AP Top 5.
4. Of the three one-loss BCS teams in the state, only UF has lost to a four-loss team.

This sounds crazy right now but it is conceivable that both UF and FSU could be ranked in the BCS Top 5 by the final week of the season. UF is already No.5 in the AP poll and a win against Georgia would further boost the Gators' resume. FSU ends the season against Va. Tech (home), No.21 Georgia Tech (away), Clemson (home), No.23 Boston College (home), Maryland (away) and UF (home).

Can UF run the table and be 10-1 going into the final week of the season?
Can FSU run the table and be 10-1 going into the final week of the season?
Will UF at FSU determine which team plays in a BCS bowl?
Are there any scenarios out there pitting UF and USF against each other in a bowl game?

-jo-

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UF/FSU wont matter for a BCS bowl because it is a nonconference game. If UF wins the rest of their conference games, even if they lose to FSU, UF will go to a BCS bowl game.

Obviously, with talent and coaching Florida is by far the best team in the state and one of the best in the entire country. In addition they are tops because they play in the toughest conference in the country. When you can play in the ACC or Pac10 you can go on cruise control every week and still win. In the SEC, you better show up every week or you will lose.

CokerCane got it pretty darn close. It would be more appropriate if he referred to the conference out west with more appropriate moniker: PAC 01 though.

Even the Big 12 this year, I mean do they even know defense out there? You got random QBs putting up 400 yard games and the scoreboard is getting a workout every single week. The top teams in the Big 12 better sure up their defense or the NC wont come out of that conference.

I didn't even bother to finish reading this post.

All I can say is that it is A TRAVESTY that UF is No. 10 in the first BCS. They're No. 5 in the AP but No. 10 in the BCS BELOW Ohio State? GARBAGE!

Below OSU and Georgia!

Look it is ok where we are ranked right now eventhough it is below OSU.

This is how it needs to break down for Florida.

1) Win out
2) Beat a highly ranked Alabama team at #2 or #1 in the SEC champ game
3) Have Penn State lose or a Big 12 implosion where teams just start dropping games

Here is the BCS top 10:

1. Texas
2. Bama
3. Penn State
4. Oklahoma
5. USC
6. Oklahoma State
7. Georgia
8. Texas Tech
9. Ohio State
10. Florida


Now lets just say a Big 12 team makes the big game so that will eliminate all others.

Now lets eliminate all SEC teams because if Florida wins out they will have won the SEC

Who is left? Penn State, USC, OSU

What separates us from USC and OSU? We play a championship game and if that game comes against a #2 or #1 Alabama we jump them both

So Penn State is the only team left and they need to lose for the Gators to have a chance at this.

It is very simple

Nice break-down CokeCanes. And, realistically, you're 100% correct. Unfortunately, the BCS is not realistic. God-forbid we beat Alabama by 1 in the SEC Championship and USC blows out their last Pac-10 opponent. If Penn St. beats OSU, they don't really play anyone else the rest of the season. Then again, I could see a one-loss SEC getting the bid over Penn St...thought it would have to take an extraordinary circumstance for it to happen.

Fact of the matter is, until we have a playoff, nothing will be (a) fair or (b) legitimate. The fact that OSU is even in the top 10 proves the bias and ridiculousness of the BCS.

Miami has become IRRELEVANT. No one cares. They sit near the bottom of the ACC.

There was a 1 hour college football final on ESPN and they showed highlights from just about every game. South Florida-Syracuse was even one of the games they showed.

Guess what game they didnt show?

You got it right---Miami-Duke....NO ONE CARES that is why!

So not only is Miami not even televised (No one has ESPNU), their highlights or lowlights dont even get televised!

Yeah, I want to go to the U. Look at that great exposure! The only time they get exposure is when they get manhandled by Florida or Florida State!

Congrats Miami on being IRRELEVANT!!!!

Miami has become IRRELEVANT. No one cares. They sit near the bottom of the ACC.

There was a 1 hour college football final on ESPN and they showed highlights from just about every game. South Florida-Syracuse was even one of the games they showed.

Guess what game they didnt show?

You got it right---Miami-Duke....NO ONE CARES that is why!

So not only is Miami not even televised (No one has ESPNU), their highlights or lowlights dont even get televised!

Yeah, I want to go to the U. Look at that great exposure! The only time they get exposure is when they get manhandled by Florida or Florida State!

Congrats Miami on being IRRELEVANT!!!!

Miami has become IRRELEVANT. No one cares. They sit near the bottom of the ACC.

There was a 1 hour college football final on ESPN and they showed highlights from just about every game. South Florida-Syracuse was even one of the games they showed.

Guess what game they didnt show?

You got it right---Miami-Duke....NO ONE CARES that is why!

So not only is Miami not even televised (No one has ESPNU), their highlights or lowlights dont even get televised!

Yeah, I want to go to the U. Look at that great exposure! The only time they get exposure is when they get manhandled by Florida or Florida State!

Congrats Miami on being IRRELEVANT!!!!

I didn't even bother to finish reading this post.

All I can say is that it is A TRAVESTY that UF is No. 10 in the first BCS. They're No. 5 in the AP but No. 10 in the BCS BELOW Ohio State? GARBAGE!

We are gargabe!!!!!!

Looks like a few "Canes fans" want to imitate the real CokeCanes. Maybe they should show up to the irrelevant Canes games instead of trying to copy me.

Looks like a few "Canes fans" want to imitate the real CokeCanes. Maybe they should show up to the irrelevant Canes games instead of trying to copy me.

Sorry........BCS #10???

I thought we would at least be #9?? oooppppssss That's the U ESPN recruiting ranking, where are the gators???

Meyers, what are U doing???

Who is Meyers?

Grow up and post as yourself...not CokeCanes.

To anyone complaining about UF being #10 in the BCS...shut the hell up. If it weren't for hype and preseason rankings, you wouldn't be anywhere close to that high. The hype for you, LSU and the SEC in general is the only reason you're top 10. You lost to freakin Ole Miss AT HOME, shut up.

"Jonathon C" is canesrule in drag. This foamy mouth loser is so uncontrollably jealous of the Mighty Gators that he seethes with anger. He posts under dozens of different names but the bitter message is always the same.

UF is enjoying success on the national stage in the premier conference. Meanwhile the ACC languishes in IRRELEVANCE. Go ahead canesrule 9
'ships, keep posting your bitter vitriol. WE LAUGH AT U. Keep it up muttonhead.

Poor Canes cant even get their games on real TV or even their lowlights for that matter. The only people watching the Canes lowlights are in South Florida because no one cares. Heck, they cant even fill half their stadium for their last home game so even their fans dont care anymore.

Meanwhile the Gators are fine. TOP 10 AGAIN with a chance at the title game. That is all you can ask for. When will Miami even have that chance again???? Since joining a conference with a conference championship game, they cant even make it to their own WEAK CONFERENCE championship game, forget winning it.

Ohhhh but NEXT YEAR will be Miami's year! BAWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Here is my LOCK: MIami will NEVER win the ACC with that BOZO as Head Coach--WAAAAAAndy Shannon. NEVER!

So if WAAAAAAAAAandy is there next year or the year after--guess what??? Miami is not doing jack.

Maybe next year they can work at getting their highlights on ESPN.

BAWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

I'm off to school but just wanted to let you know that I posted this on every Miami blog out there. It's so funny!!!!!!!


Wow two game winning streak for WAAAAAAAAAAAANdy Shannon.

UCF and Duke!

What a darn awesome coach! Give him a 5 year extension PLEASE!!!!!

Maybe even strike a deal with ESPN so they start showing Canes highlights again because with a 3 hour show Sunday night, no one even mentioned the Canes name or showed a Miami highlight.

How does it feel Miami since you cant win anything since joining a conference with a conference championship game???? Forget going undefeated, you cant even get to the weak ACC championship game! It was much easier before being independent, playing FAMU, Temple and weak compeitition and then playing the title game in the Orange Bowl. Now what??????

You guys are IRRELEVANT!!!!!

Go Randy Shannon--lead the Canes to a mid December Bowl in Boise,

Love CokeCanes

I think the Gators are well-positioned in the first BCS standings.

The Ole Miss loss isn't looking as awful as it did at the time, given their strong performance against Bama this past weekend.

We've got a tough slate of games coming up that should give us a strength of schedule boost - Kentucky, Georgia, Vandy, South Carolina, FSU, and possibly Bama. We obviously have no room for error, but it's hard to keep a team that runs that table out of the title game.

At the end of the day, I think a one-loss SEC champ jumps ahead over a one-loss USC, a one-loss Ohio State/Penn State, and maybe even over an undefeated Penn State. Of course, this last scenario would be unfair in many ways and chalk up another strike against the BCS. However, speaking as an SEC partisan, just look at what our teams have done to the Big 10 in the last two title games. That's gotta count for something, although it'll be tough to overcome the sympathy human vote for seeing Joe Pa in the title game.

Anyways, there's still a lot of ball to be played. So for now, let's hope Ohio State beats Penn State this weekend, Bama and FSU keep winning, and the Big 12 beats each other up.

Go Waaaandy, go Waaandy, go Waandy.

Its your birthday, and we don't give a #&^% its your birthday!!!:)

Jon C...ridiculous post. Obviously bitter, salty and jealous.

I'm worried about an undefeated Penn St. and Texas above all-else. That would be doom for us and any other SEC team.

The Ole Miss loss, while at the time was big, is only a blow now because it was a L, not because of who it was to. I am still stunned that USC loses to Oregon St. (and has only beaten a consistently over-rated Ohio State team) and is ranked higher than Florida who DEMOLISHED the defending national champs.

We have to take care of our own business before we worry about others, though.

Also:

Nineteen of the 20 teams to reach the BCS National Championship Game were ranked in the top six of the initial BCS Standings. LSU won the 2003 title after being 12th in the first standings.

I'm happy with the 10 spot considering we didn't even play this weekend. We are respected enough for us not to drop in the AP and Coaches polls. If we beat Georgia we'll jump USC and OSU (assuming they beat PSU). How intriguing would it be if we play Texas in the NC game and Colt wins the Heisman? Two Heisman QB's going at it! WOW.

That's a big assumption considering OSU has looked like crap and PSU has looked outstanding.

1987 (oh, looky at the SEC teams)
Date UM Rank Opponent Result Score
Sept. 5 10 (20) Florida W 31-4
Sept. 26 5 at (10) Arkansas W 51-7
Oct. 3 3 at (4) Florida St. W 26-25
Oct. 10 3 Maryland W 46-16
Oct. 24 3 at Cincinnati W 48-10
Oct. 31 3 at East Carolina W 41-3
Nov. 7 3 Miami (Ohio) W 54-3
Nov. 14 3 Virginia Tech W 27-13
Nov. 21 3 Toledo W 24-14
Nov. 28 2 (10) Notre Dame W 24-0
Dec. 5 2 (8) South Carolina W 20-16
Jan. 1 2 *(1) Oklahoma W 20-14

OSU is still the reigning champs until proven otherwise. Plus OSU knows how to win their conference thats for sure.

Ah 1987, feels like yesterday to Miami fans. Pathetic! Like a clingy ex-girlfriend.

1987? SERIOUSLY?

OSU isn't the champs of anything, they don't have a conference championship game.

Obviously no championship game. My point is they know how to win in their conference. Plus they have home field advantage.

I get your point...but let's not forget they haven't had any real serious competition in the last few years...Penn. St. is legit.

Agreed

Who cares about the Canes? The Canes are irrelevant. Plus, they are hurting our strength of schedule. We should have brought in TCU or some other school instead of Miami.

Miami is a joke and it is unfortunate I have to live in South Florida and hear the preseason hype of this team. At least I dont have to hear much from them DURING the season. They were knocked out of contention at the SECOND game. BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lets talk about the Gators who are in the top 10 in the BCS and are National contenders every single year.

The Gators win out and play a #2 or #1 Alabama team in the SECCG, they will jump OSU and USCw easy. No doubt. 100%. The Gators then just need one Penn State loss or a Big 12 implosion. That is it.

So while the Gators go for a TITLE RUN, the Canes can talk about NEXT YEAR or the YEAR AFTER THAT.

Coke,

I meant the title game.

-jo-

Coke,

What is your obsession with the Hurricanes? Gators beat them already; drop it. They do not deserve so much attention.

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