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Ex.1:UF 108, Warner 49

GAINESVILLE -- Based on what I've seen so far, this Florida team is not significantly different from last season's squad. Center Kenny Kadji is young and needs to grow up quickly. Freshman point guard Erving Walker already appears good enough to push sophomore Jai Lucas for playing time.

Center Alex Tyus is playing out of position and needs another body inside to free up his explosiveness. (This according to UF coach Billy Donovan.) Dan Werner led UF with 17 points and senior shooting guard Walter Hodge came off the bench.

Ray Shipman fouled during a 3-point attempt and makes all three free throws. Five points in a row for Shipman. UF 75, Warner 32. (Live blogging ends after 40-point leads.) Shipman finished with 10 points (3-of-6) in his Gators' debut.

Chandler Parsons with the Gators' first dunk of the preseason. UF 61, Warner 28

Nick Calathes begins the second half with a 3-pointer. UF 59, Warner 25; 18:49.

Dan Werner six consecutive points to end the first half, including a 3-pointer at the buzzer. UF 56-23.

Miami's own Ray Shipman scores the first bucket of his career. He was fouled in the process and made it a 3-point play. UF 47-17, 3:59.

Nick Calathes called for kicking the ball...he learned that move in Greece. UF freshman forward Allan Chaney of Connecticut in the game and he gives UF a 40-12 lead; 42-14. Allan Chaney not related to the Vice President.

Didn't take long for Kadji to record his first block...and his first foul. Walter Hodge with a 3-pointer. Moments later, Kadji (pronounced KAY-gee) records first bucket of his preseason career, followed by a three-point play from Dan Werner.

UF on a quick 8-2 run. UF center Kenny Kadji first appearance of the preseason. He's tall (6-10).

It's the Erving Walker vs. Jai Lucas show here in the first half and Walker is winning. He just drained another jumper and then recorded a steal. UF 20, Warner 7; 9:52.

Jai Lucas must have heard us talking about him. He entered the game and made a 3-pointer. UF 18, Warner 5; 11:31.

UF freshman guard Erving Walker looking good. Nice move by the New York City point guard, pushing off a defender and draining a 17-footer. UF 15, Warner 4, 11:56. Jai Lucas take a seat says the guy sitting next to me, who shall remain nameless.

Miami's own Ray Shipman in the game for Nick Calathes...and Shipman air balls a 3-point attempt (two feet long). Welcome to the O'Dome, Ray. Florida has attempted eight shots and seven have been from behind the arc.

Nick Calathes drains a 3-pointer to give UF a 11-2 lead, 15:00. Warner is 1-of-9 from the floor. Jai Lucas missed two 3-point attempts and was summarily sent to the bench by Billy D. Freshman guard Erving Walker in the game.

--First basketball live blog comment of the season...Chandler Parsons is still skinny. But he can drain an NBA-range 3-pointer. UF 6, Warner 2; 17:33.

Basketball season again. Live from the O'Connell Center tonight for the Gators' first exhibition game of the preseason. Tonight's opponent, Warner, is not ranked in the AP Top 25...but the Gators debuted in the preseason poll at No.19. Let's see if they're worth it.

Tonight's UF starters: F Dan Werner,(no relation to the school), F Alex Tyus, F Chandler Parsons, G Nick Calathes and G Jai Lucas.



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Damnit...TV is out right now...guess I will check up on this...

#@*!!! Anonymous anger rampant on Internet

By Todd Leopold

(CNN) -- There's a whole world of people out there, and boy, are they pissed off.

On political blogs, the invective flies. Posters respond to the latest celebrity gossip with mockery or worse. Sports fans set up Web sites with names that begin with "fire," hoping coaches, athletic directors and sportscasters lose their jobs.

And though there are any number of bloggers and commenters who attempt to keep their postings and responses on a civil level, all too often interactive Web sites descend into ad hominem attacks, insults and plain old name-calling. Indeed, there are even whole sites devoted to venting, such as justrage.com (one screed there was titled, "I don't give a flying f***, so f*** you") and mybiggestcomplaint.com.

This is not a world Emily Post would want to be caught in after dark.

"The Internet can be a great tool," said Sara Black, a professor of health studies at St. Joseph's University who takes a particular interest in online bullying. "Like any tool, it can also be misused." See examples of Internet anger »

One reason for the vitriol that emerges on the Web, experts say, is the anonymity the Internet provides. Commenters seldom use their real names, and even if they do, the chance for retaliation is slim.

"In the [pre-Internet era], you had to take ownership [of your remarks]. Now there's a perception of anonymity," said Lesley Withers, a professor of communication at Central Michigan University. "People think what they say won't have repercussions, and they don't think they have to soften their comments."

Contrast that with a face-to-face conversation, or even a phone conversation, where you can judge people's moods from facial movements or vocal inflections, observes University of Texas psychology professor Art Markman.

"It's hard to be aggressive when you're face to face," he said.

"A lot of times, real anger is an attempt to get control over a situation where the person doesn't usually have it," he said. In that respect, comments to blog posts are attempts to strike back.

Those power games are innately grasped by children and teens, with schools serving as a perennial social laboratory.

Cheryl Dellasega, a Penn State women's studies professor, ticks off hypothetical examples that could have come straight from the scripts to "Mean Girls" or "Heathers."

"Girls who are getting teased come home and let their [aggressors] have it by putting something on their blog and starting a rumor campaign," she said. And instead of rumors simply making the rounds among peer groups -- which can be bad enough -- "they go out to a much bigger group, a worldwide group. The impact is devastating, and it's as easy as clicking a button."

"Kids don't realize that one post can destroy somebody's life forever," she added.

Indeed, such incidents have made headlines. In 2006, 13-year-old Megan Meier committed suicide after becoming attracted to a boy on MySpace who then turned on her. The boy turned out to be a hoax created by a neighbor family that included a former friend of Meier's.

In August, The New York Times Magazine did a story about trolls, some barely out of their teens, who antagonize others for the sake of "lulz": "Lulz is watching someone lose their mind at their computer 2,000 miles away while you chat with friends and laugh," one ex-troll told the publication.

Adults aren't immune by any means. A Japanese woman, angry at her online "husband," killed his avatar after he divorced her. A South Korean actress committed suicide after being harassed by online rumors following a divorce. Celebrity gossip sites are full of snarky comments about stars; reaction from readers is often brutal, turning the story into the online equivalent of a pile-on.

Markman is quick to observe that he doesn't believe there's more anger out there. But, he said, "there are more ways of expressing it on the Internet."

"We've all had interactions with unpleasant people, but we don't confront them. We take it out elsewhere," he said. "What the Internet has created is groups of people where there are no repercussions with being too aggressive."

Indeed, though electronically transmitted anger has parallels throughout human history -- the bitter letter, the village gossip -- the speed at which it travels, and the number of people who may come in contact with it, is something new, says St. Joseph's Black.

"[Electronic] media can increase potential for violence in a number of ways," she said in an e-mail interview. "First, it introduces ideas (good and bad) that people may not have come up with on their own. Second, it is easier to depersonalize the victim, facilitating perpetration. Third, aggressive behaviors may be reinforced with points, attention or status, especially in games."

Withers has seen that first hand. She teaches a course on the "dark side of communication" at Central Michigan, involving "the mean or evil things we do on a day-to-day basis," as she describes it: cheating, for example, or lying.

As part of the course, several of her students work on a collaborative project with students at other schools, and they come together in Second Life, the virtual reality environment. If someone isn't pulling his or her weight, says Withers, others can be harsh in their judgments -- harsher than in real life, because the anger is expressed at the person's avatar.
Which led at least one of Withers' students to forget that the avatar was attached to a real person.

"One student went off on another student and she was sitting in the classroom a few rows behind him," she said. "He knew she was there, but didn't -- there was that distancing."

Is there a way to restore civility to the Internet? Among children and teenagers, say Dellasega and Black, it's up to parents to exercise control.

"I think parents need to take responsibility," Dellasega said. "They give kids computers and leave them alone. ... When a child is 8 or 9, the computer should be in a public place. Kids should understand that using a computer is a privilege, not a right."

Schools can also play a role, she says.

Black adds that parents should set clear rules on behavior and build empathy in their kids by having them reach out to those who are different.

As for adults, human nature dictates that people will always lash out at others, whether it's over a perceived insult or simply because of a power differential. Web sites may ban the worst offenders, but they'll almost always pop up elsewhere, using a different name, e-mail address or even computer.

"Some people are just bitter and angry," said psychiatrist Dr. Terry Eagan, medical director of the Moonview Sanctuary in Santa Monica, California. "Sometimes, they're against everyone, other times against a specific group. That person can get really stimulated and can say all sorts of horrible things. But I don't think it's not like they didn't exist before."

Whether the problem will get control of us, or we will get control of the problem, is in the way we face up to it, he says. Anger, he says, is rolled up with anxiety and fear, and nothing creates more fear like a lack of understanding.

"I tell patients that I'd rather know everything about people; information is powerful," he said. "When the climate of the world is more fear-based, it permeates everything."

Guys we shouldnt be talking a single thing until we can win the ACC. We havent done it. Since joining a real conference like the ACC, we havent won it once. Lets win it or how about maybe beat a ranked team ONCE before we start talking. Beating Duke, UCF, A and M, and Charelston Southern is nice but we need to start beating ranked teams--even teams ranked in the 20s forget the top 5. We are a LONG way away from anything and with Randy Shannon as head coach we are even further. Maybe we could hire Mike Leach, he would be a big hire since Greg Schiano wanted nothing to do with us.

Posted by: TX Cane | November 03, 2008 at 08:00 PM

What a dum* a** U are!

If your going to copy my name at least get it correct. TXCane not TX Cane

Posted by: TXCane | November 03, 2008 at 09:07 PM

Hey 5ringsIZahandful, if you're going to stoop to the same lowlife level as CokeCane, as least know how to speak and type English. LOSER!

Posted by: GatorAlum | November 03, 2008 at 05:18 PM



Hey 5ringsIZahandful, if you're going to stoop to the same lowlife level as CokeCane, as least know how to speak and type English. LOSER!

Posted by: GatorAlum | November 03, 2008 at 05:18 PM

Didn't you mean: "...at least LEARN how to speak and SPELL the English language."

What college did you attend? NOT UF! As much as I hate UF's football team, they would never award a diploma to anyone who writes like that!

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