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Southern Poverty Law Center: FRC President Tony Perkins' accusation 'outrageous'

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said Thursday that shooting suspect Floyd Lee Corkins II was "given a license" to fire at an FRC security guard by organizations including the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

Immediately after, a SPLC spokesman called Perkins' comment "outrageous."

Here's the complete statement from SPLC, which includes FRC on its "Hatewatch" list:

Editor’s Note: The following statement may be attributed to Mark Potok, Senior Fellow of the Southern Poverty Law Center and editor of its Intelligence Report and Hatewatch blog.

Yesterday’s attack on the Family Research Council and the shooting of a security guard there was a tragedy. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deplores all violence, and our thoughts are with the wounded victim, Leo Johnson, his family and others who lived through the attack.

For more than 40 years, the SPLC has battled against political extremism and political violence. We have argued consistently that violence is no answer to problems in a democratic society, and we have strongly criticized all those who endorse such violence, whether on the political left or the political right.

But this afternoon, FRC President Tony Perkins attacked the SPLC, saying it had encouraged and enabled the attack by labeling the FRC a “hate group.” The attacker, Floyd Corkins, “was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center,” Perkins said. “I believe the Southern Poverty Law Center should be held accountable for their reckless use of terminology.”

Perkins’ accusation is outrageous. The SPLC has listed the FRC as a hate group since 2010 because it has knowingly spread false and denigrating propaganda about LGBT people — not, as some claim, because it opposes same-sex marriage. The FRC and its allies on the religious right are saying, in effect, that offering legitimate and fact-based criticism in a democratic society is tantamount to suggesting that the objects of criticism should be the targets of criminal violence.

As the SPLC made clear at the time and in hundreds of subsequent statements and press interviews, we criticize the FRC for claiming, in Perkins’ words, that pedophilia is “a homosexual problem” — an utter falsehood, as every relevant scientific authority has stated. An FRC official has said he wanted to “export homosexuals from the United States.” The same official advocated the criminalizing of homosexuality.

Perkins and his allies, seeing an opportunity to score points, are using the attack on their offices to pose a false equivalency between the SPLC’s criticisms of the FRC and the FRC’s criticisms of LGBT people. The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse — claims that are provably false. It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people.

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SPLC reaped what it sowed.

It had no problem accusing right wingers of being complicit in the Arizona shootings even when the evidence was against that accusation.

"The SPLC has listed the FRC as a hate group since 2010 because it has knowingly spread false and denigrating propaganda about LGBT people — not, as some claim, because it opposes same-sex marriage."

>> Bunk. Opposing same marriage is, by definition, spreading false and denigrating propaganda in the gay fascist movement, of which Southern Poverty Lie Center exists as a propaganda appendage and nothing more.

"The FRC and its allies on the religious right are saying, in effect, that offering legitimate and fact-based criticism in a democratic society is tantamount to suggesting that the objects of criticism should be the targets of criminal violence."

>> Wrong. The FRC and its allies are saying that calling people you disagree with "hate groups", is tantamount to suggesting that the objects of criticism should be the targets of criminal violence.

The SPLC is, exactly, a hate group.

"The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse — claims that are provably false. It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people."

>> Bunk. Apparently painting gay people as child molesters is the way "teach the love of Jesus Christ" according to the Family Research Council. It's no different than doing the same to black people or jews.

Sorry Mr. Rick DeLano but when you put out a falsehood like that which was been debunked by numerous scientific researchers such as Dr. A. Nicholas Groth (whose work the Family Research Council has distorted in the past which Dr. Groth wrote a letter to FRC demanding to remove his name), that makes the Family Research Council a hate group!


No, actually iot doesn;t make the FRC a hate group, Tell.

It makes it a group with whom another scientist disagrees.

Particularly in soft sciences like sociology and psycholgy, such differences are often matters of ideological preference- an interpretation of the data- than any objective dataset itself.

So, you are wrong again.

Ideas are not hate, simply because you disagree with them, or even with their implications.

In 2001 FRC President Tony Perkins spoke at an event of the Louisiana chapter of the racist group Council of Conservative Citizens. Perkins also has ties to former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke paying to use Duke's mailing list for a campaign. The FRC's Peter Sprigg said in a video interview that he would "much prefer to export homosexuals from the United States than to import" & to outlaw gay behavior.

So you are accusing him of impure mailing list acquisition and the fervent hope that more homosexuals would emigrate than immigrate.

OK.

Both are his perfectly secure First Amendment rights.

Your point?

There is no evidence that homosexuals are more likey to molest children than heterosexuals. 98% of the time most cases of men molesting boys is from a heterosexual relative in the family NOT from strangers who are opnely gay men who are involved in gay relationships. When you distort the work of scientific researchers like Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, Dr. Kurt Freund & Dr. Gene Abel in the field who conduct studies & experiments on child molesters, the FRC is just misquoting their actual findings just to to scapegoat gays & support their anti-gay polical agenda. As if painting gay people as child molesters doesn't make people fear or hate gay people. Here are the facts:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm

http://www.internationalorder.org/scandal_response.html

Oh so the FRC President Tony Perkins speaking at a racist organizaton isn't suspicous bigot behavior? Or is another member Peter Sprigg saying he would rather export homosexuals out of the United States and wants gay people arrested for gay behavior? The Ku Klux Klan also has first ammendment rights but that doesn't make them any less a hate group either. Sorry but that adds up to the FRC being a hate group if you don't agree with it or not!


Suspicious bigot behavior, Tell, certainly involves taking a gun out of a backpack, pointing it at an unarmed security guard, saying "I don;t like your politics", and pulling the trigger.

I suggest we start with your side owning that terrorism, and handling it.

I find it ironic how Tony Perkins goes on to say that the reason the FRC was labeled a hate group was because his group is "against gay marriage" when the Southern Poverty Law Center did not list the FRC as a hate group for that reason at all. Why the need for Perkins to lie about the true reason to be labeled a hate group? The attack was condemed from gay activists and the SPLC, but no need for Perkins to lie about the SPLC like that or to blame the SPLC. He should be blaming himself and his whole staff at his group for their obsession for painting gay people as child molesters.

Perkins certainly did not lie.

The Southern Poverty Lie Center lied.

The "hate group" meme is applied to all groups which support traditional marriage and guess what?

That meme died two days ago.

America now knows exactly which side is employing hate.

It is not the pro-traditional marriage side.

It is the side which produced the terrorist who pulled a gun out of his backpack, said "I don;t like your politics", and shot an unarmed man.

The pseudo-marriage movement will never recover.

Neither will the Southern Poverty Lie Center.

Wrong, the SPLC does NOT list these groups as hate groups because they are againt gay marriage or because they oppose homosexuality because of biblical beliefs it's if they say any of these proven falsehoods:

1. Homosexuals molest children at far higher rates than heterosexuals.
2. Same-sex parents harm children.
3. People become homosexual because they were sexually abused as children or there was a deficiency in sex-role modelling by their parents.
4. Homosexuals don’t live nearly as long as heterosexuals.
5. Homosexuals controlled the Nazi Party and helped to orchestrate the Holocaust.
6. Hate crime laws will lead to the jailing of pastors who criticize homosexuality and the legalization of practices like bestiality and necrophilia.
7. Allowing homosexuals to serve openly would damage the armed forces.
8. Homosexuals are more prone to be mentally ill and to abuse drugs and alcohol.
9. No one is born a homosexual.
10. Gay people can choose to leave homosexuality.

So it's "proven" that homosexuals are born that way? Only to you. And BTW pastors in Canada have been jailed for preaching against homosexuality and they are barred from doing so still AFAIK. So why would we expect hate laws to unfold differently in this country. In fact I can prove that pastors have been jailed for preaching against the sin of homosexuality just north of our border. That's very close to proving the exact opposite of what you said was a proven fact. I still have trouble figuring out how you "prove" something in the future though.

Here is how bad it's gotten with the radical gender left:

1. SPLC brands FRC a hate group before Chik Fil A Day
2. Chik Fil A Day astounds America in a way that does not please the radical gender left
3. A terrorist walks into FRC, takes a gun out of his backpack, points it an an unarmed guard, says "I don;t like your politics", and pulls the trigger.
4. The radical gender left attacks FRC as a hate group.

One thing is certain.

The radical gender left does not speak for the vast majority of Americans. We found that out at Chik Fil A, and we will find it out again this November.

Yeah and we should rewrite history books that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were all gay and resposible for the deaths of millions of people because the Pink Swastika book alleges. We should go label gay people child molesters even though that is "teaching the love of Jesus Christ" and doesn't make people fear or hate gays. The U.S. military should stop allowing homosexuals because it will destroy the armed forces even though many countries have been allowing gays to join in their military. Only in these peoples' minds in the world of make believe.

BTW, regarding one of the myths about how Adolf Hitler & the Nazis were all gay and gays are to blame for the deaths of Jews in World War II, Jason Jones rips the creator of the myth & the author of the Pink Swastika book Scott Lively of Abiding Truth Ministries on the Daily Show with John Stewart here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-28-2010/gay-reichs

It's time these Christian groups and real Christians listen to Warren Throckmorton, A Christian man himself:

http://wthrockmorton.com/2010/11/30/splchatelist/

It's time these Christian groups and real Christians listened to the words that proceeded from the mouth of the hate-crazed terrorist, as he was pulling the trigger on an unarmed man:

"I don't like your politics".

The SPLC has destroyed itself, whatever credibility it might have had is gone.

We now understand that the term "hate group" is not a description, but rather a directive.

"And BTW pastors in Canada have been jailed for preaching against homosexuality and they are barred from doing so still AFAIK. So why would we expect hate laws to unfold differently in this country. In fact I can prove that pastors have been jailed for preaching against the sin of homosexuality just north of our border. That's very close to proving the exact opposite of what you said was a proven fact. I still have trouble figuring out how you "prove" something in the future though."

Isn't it ironic how these supposed "Christian" groups are claiming that pastors will be jailed yet the Family Research Council's Peter Sprigg wants gays to be arrested for gay sex?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTFEzzuj-VQ

Can't have it both ways!

The Family Research Council lost all credibility when it continues to use junk science and spew falsehoods at a group of people!

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/perkins-family-research-council-shooting-southern-poverty-law

I should also point out all the gay kids who have committed sucicide in the news after all the anti-gay bullying they've recieved. Yet the Family Research Council wants to stop anti-bullying programs in schools as if it doesn't give a damn about the safety of gay kids in school!

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