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Valigator

Passed the buck task force..

Magister

Mr. Grimm, the link to the full report does not work. Is there another way to provide us with the full report?

tom

I find this all very hard to swallow . You create a sex offender camp segregate sex offenders after they have done there time in prison and continue to pass legislation that clearly punishes them NO END ! You have them living under bridges and on the streets thinking this is going to keep your children safe , What I would like to know is how is this keeping any one safe ? And what about the safety of the people that you have made homeless ? I find it odd that parents are not looking at there own parenting skills to look after there children , instead they are relying on feel good laws that do nothing at all to protect any one to do the parenting ! What also bothers me about all this is that the constitution and bill of rights was made for every one not just the people you deem desirable ! Segregation is against the constitution and bill of rights ! Another thing that gets me is that any time any one talks about sex offender rights they are also demonized , ridiculed and dismissed as being one them selves !
When you make a law that is X-Post-Fact-o pass it and have what you have now a huge mess what I find hard to swallow is just how much money that is costing tax payers and Just how this benefits not only the children but how this is affecting the human rights of people as well . Why is it that once a drug dealer , manslaughter , drunk driver , home robber , thief , or any other criminal get’s out of prison there punishment is over ? but a sex offender is constantly being punished even after serving there time ! Is this right ? NO it is not right ! Is this going to protect a child ? NO it will not ! Is this just making the sheeple feel good and get the public officials votes from them sheeple ? YES IT DOES THAT ! So just how well are the sex offender laws and punishment working out ? Well ? Tell me ONE child that has been protected at all in any way from any one sex offender law ? Now I can tell you NONE ! Not one Law that is on the books have done any thing at all but create a huge HUMAN RIGHTS MESS , and continue to add punishment far beyond the prison bars ! Now ask is that what this country is all about ? Is that what we do as American’s ? Then why not EVERY criminal ? It is easy to over look every one just not the sex offender ! When is the punishment over for them and just tell me why .

MSLGWCEO

Lets get to the real crux of the problem. It isn't so much the sex offenders as it is law makers passing laws without "Evidence based research."

The Adam Walsh Amendment (AWA), was passed under "Suspension of Rules," which means "non-controversial"

Now I ask you. HOW STUPID IS THAT? Law makers at both federal and state making laws without "Evidence Based Research!"

Now, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee met March 10 this year and will be meeting again soon I hope to look at "Evidence Based Research."

Why? Because the laws as they are written at both federal and state levels have many unintended consequences and are causing "MORE HARM THAN GOOD."

A recent study that has not as yet been released:
NEW STUDY: AWA (SORNA) Tier II & Tier III are less dangerous than Tier I

Here: http://cfcoklahoma.org/New_Site/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=0&func=view&catid=84&id=2312#2312

and HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE S REQUEST FOR INTERIM STUDY PROPOSAL Adam Walsh Amendment ( AWA). HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE(S)

REQUEST FOR INTERIM STUDY PROPOSAL
Community Safety – concerns regarding the implementation in Oklahoma of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act

Here: http://cfcoklahoma.org/New_Site/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=0&func=view&catid=42&id=2315#2315

This is an excellent read and every citizen of each state needs to read this and after doing so, WRITE EVERY MEMBER OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE BAT BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS AND DEMAND THEY ONLY PASS LAWS THAT ARE "EVIDENCE BASED RESEARCH.

Why? Because the laws as they are written "DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD." These laws are wasteing BILLIONS and BILLIONS of tax payers hard earned money and they PROTECT NO ONE! These laws are insane. They DON'T WORK


glenn

Either you can let them (sex offenders) out into society, or you can't.

Convicted killers get out of jail and have fewer restrictions placed on them. How is the risk of recidivism less for them? A killer is arguably worse than a pedophile, or at least just as bad.

Isn't there a more intelligent way to keep track of people like this besides making them walk 2500 feet to look for victims? My car and my phone both have GPS, what's the big deal with a technology solution here? You could even have some GPS-enabled Taser that shocks the hell out of them when they get too near a 'restricted zone'.

OK, just kidding about the Taser. Sort of.

ConcernedCitizenandMom

I've heard that nearly 200 people have been killed because of the registry. How many has it saved? I don't think there is even one case of someone being saved because of the registry. The killings aren't very reported because who cares about those "child molestors" yet out of the 100 or so former offenders I know, not one of them hurt a child. They're on the registry for consensual behavior with a teenager - and none were over the age of 25. Interesting eh? The lawmakers have it out for all young men. They've forgotten what it was like to be a typical teenager or young man. I sure remember as a teen girl what power we had over the teen guys and guys in their 20's. They were clueless! It was US going after them, not the other way around. No one wants to hear that though. Especially lawmakers.

I think they should be put on the registry for one DAY and feel the humiliation and grief..maybe then they'd understand the laws are not regulatory but punitive in nature. The registry is a joke and should have never been made public. It has killed more than it has saved.

The "zones" are ridiculous and won't prevent a REAL murderer or dangerous person from going wherever he wants to go. Let's get real here. Restrictions on where to live is ridiculous too, I want all the former offenders I know with a job, a family and an income! THAT is how we are all safe. They make all kinds of programs but leave out the dreaded "sex offender". Shoot, what I've read they cannot even go to college, is that true? (get help with college I mean) We're TRYING to punish them MORE for a crime (if it should even be called a crime for normal behavior either online or in person) after the fact. Isn't that ex-post-facto? I thought that wasn't legal?

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