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Hastings boycotting Democratic convention

At least one high-profile Florida Democrat is not ready to set aside the dispute with the national party: U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings of Miramar said he would skip the nominating convention in Denver.

Here's his statement, a dramatic commentary on the right to vote by a black congressman:

It is with reluctance and disappointment that I accept the DNC’s decision today.  I do so not because I agree with the decision but because it is time for us to move on and focus on winning in November.

I applaud Karen Thurman and the Florida Democratic Party, Robert Wexler, Bill Nelson and others who represented our state and the candidates for doing the best they could with a bad situation.

Florida Democrats have been serially abused and the DNC is the latest of offenders.  How the DNC has the authority to ignore the votes of ‘Jack and Jane Lunch Bucket’ is beyond my understanding. The insiders who actively sought to disillusion and disenfranchise the more than 1.75 million Florida Democrats who voted on January 29 give new meaning to collective arrogance.

The DNC’s decision today ignores the core principle of our great democracy: the right to vote.  I know that the 1.75 million Democrats who voted on January 29 count and don’t give a damn what the DNC rules pronounce.

Going to a party’s convention is a privilege. Courts have said that political parties have a right to make their rules.  In this case, the DNC has chosen to take away that privilege from people who I believe have earned the right to participate in the National Convention in Denver with a full vote.  As Americans, we should never insinuate or give vent to taking away the constitutional, time honored, died for, and cherished rights of voters from any state.  Yet that is what today’s decision has done to the people of
Florida and Michigan.

I suppose the DNC has the right to block Democrats in Florida from attending the National Convention.  They also have the right to be stupid, and stupid they are.

At the beginning of our great country’s history my ancestors were counted as only 2/3 of a person.  Until passage of the 15th Amendment in 1870, they weren’t allowed to vote. During that same time and until 1920, women could not vote.  White men who did not own property could not vote at one point in our history as well.   

Now, on May 31, 2008, a group of elitist insiders of the DNC have effectively said that some of my ancestors’ progeny equal only 1/2 and that men and women in Florida who voted on January 29th are 1/2 also.  For a Party which will crown its historic nominee on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech, the DNC’s decision today is tragically ironic.

As a matter of protest, I do not intend to attend the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

Despite all of this, too much is at stake this November.  I refuse to allow those who have done me and my constituents wrong to stop us from taking back our country.  Together, we will do whatever it takes to increase our majority in the House and Senate and win the Presidency.

While I cannot speak for others, I do not intend to take any further legal action against the DNC.  If I believed that we could win, believe me, I would act and so would others.  But based on case history, it is an uphill battle screaming for a change in federal law.   

I will, however, spend enormous energy on convincing my colleagues in Congress that we must create a rotating regional Presidential primary system.  30 political insiders – nearly all of whom ain’t ever been elected to a damn thing in their lives – must never again have the ability to reject the will of and unilaterally disenfranchise 1.75 million voters.

This election is bigger than Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton.  It is certainly bigger than the DNC.  There are over 46 million Americans who are uninsured, gas and energy costs are spiraling out of control, America’s economy is faltering, and U.S. troops are dying nearly every day in Iraq and Afghanistan.  It will take the energy and resources of all of us to fix these problems and the others facing our nation.

As Florida voters have demonstrated time and time again, we will rise above those who have sought to silence our voices and vote big and win in November.

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cultfree

Anyone feeling united yet? Please don't boycott the convention; go and fight for our right to have our voices heard. This is not over. See you in Denver.

Dan

Excellent Histrionics. The adults in the party will get the business done. Alcee "bribe" Hastings can take his ball and go home.

B positive

Thank you, Rep. Hastings! You speak for so many!

John

Champion for democracy in the USA :)

Larry

This is very immature of Alcee Hastings, and many of the Clinton supporters. It is one thing to be passionate but another to be childish and petulant. Al Gore certainly must have felt that he was entitled to the presidency in 2000 but he did the honorable thing. It's too bad we don't see the same level of honor or even decorum today.

bayareavoter

Amen. I am sickened by the arrogance of the ROOLZ committee. And for Donna Brazile to bring up cheating...beyond rude and unprofessional.

Annagain

The DNC and by extension the Rules Committee disgraced itself today. I have never seen a primary handled so badly or unfairly.

Other states moved their primaries up beyond the legal limit with no penalty but FL & MI (states where the DNC KNEW Clinton would do well) are given the death penalty? Give me a break. And Donna Brazile and Wexler were and are out of control.

In the end, this is about the voters who came out in droves to vote for the candidate they wanted. You punish them now, they punish the Democrats in November. And it will be well deserved.

Bravo, Alcee Hastings for speaking up about this travesty.

p_lukasiak

Florida should never have been penalized in the first place.

But what Floridians should be most concerned about is this: Barack Obama sent two representatives to that meeting.

Bonier asked on behalf of Obama that Michigan delegates be seated with FULL votes.

Wexler asked on behalf of Obama that Florida be seated with HALF votes.

It was OBAMA that demanded that YOUR votes be counted as half votes -- but he wanted FULL votes for people in Michigan. Think about that for a moment.

And Wexler, whose district went for Clinton by 70.1% to 19.1%, went to the DNC and told them that he wanted HIS CONSTITUENTS who voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton to be treated as half-citizens.

Think about the kind of betrayal that represents --- not just supporting, but speaking on behalf of Obama, telling them that YOUR CONSTITUENTS are worth HALF what Michigan voters are worth---even though THREE TIMES AS MANY Floridians voted in your primary.

Unfortunately, the filing deadline to challenge Wexler is past...

Mary

I honor and respect Hastings' decision to boycott the convention. And I completely understand.

I watched it all, from beginning to end. It was a travesty of what I thought the Democratic Party stood for.

Yesterday was my own personal decision day, waiting fairly to see both sides, listen rationally, and then decide.

ALL of the "Uncommitteds" to Obama, with 4 of Clinton's delegates given to him to be "fair." It is, for Americans watching, now an Affirmative Action election. Donna Brazille's Mamma should have taught her common decency.

I have decided. I am now an Independent.

Enough.

Deniz R Ozan-George

Bravo Alcee! You are a true democrat (small d) and I applaud you.

Hillgirl

Thank you M. Hastings. You have echoed what so many are experiencing right now. And to someone earlier on the post who said this was "childish" I think perhaps you do not see what is happening to our democracy--this is dead serious and our democracy is in great trouble. I wish we had more party members willing to stand up as you did.

sjl106

Hasting's your an honorable man, thank you for taking a stand. Although, I will not be joining you in fighting for the Presidency, my 20+ years Democratic vote is going to Republican John McCain. I have no doubt the Super Delegates will do the right thing by supporting the candidate with the popular vote, that reflects the will of the people, they will select obama, who has gamed the system personally tried to destroy Hillary and Bill through racism, sexism, militant tactics by his supporters and other Democratic elites, the msm, the disenfranchisement of 2.5 million people and the defening silence from the Democrats on not taking a stand against this. I was resolved before yesterday never to vote for obama, but yesterday's display of what an election in China or Iran would look like told me my Democratic Party is gone and I don't believe I can vote for the down ticket candidates either. The thought that the DNC could only count 1/2 the votes of Floridian Democrats when they did nothing wrong is beyond my comprehension and then to usurp their will over the voters will in MI and STEAL delegates from Hillary and to give him all of the uncommitted (based on exit polls)to give to obama after he willfully took his name off the ballot in MI and then had his goons in the MI legislature block a revote is past beyond me being able to what I believed my party to stand for, equality and justice.

Unity? Representative Democracy? Change? Hillary has the popular vote the will of the people and the SDs are hell bent on giving this election to a loser, they will understand what they have done come November. McCain is not the same as bush, obama is more similar in many many ways. Thanks for your strength Alcee you are a great man.

Mary

There will BE no "unity."

There could have been.

But choices made and committee deals made behind closed doors have made that impossible.

Remember Richard Nixon's "Silent Majority?" They don't post on blogs, but they're out there.

And now they're gone.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

leahlex

Hillaryvoters4mccain.blogspot.com thats all i have to say. I'm so disappointed with the democrats.

ken

I have never voted for a republican in my life. But I will change my party affiliation to independent if Obama is nominated and I will vote for McCain if it can make a difference to the outcome of the election.

The Democratic Party insiders do not care about us Americans who take the time out of our busy lives and go to vote. We expect that our votes be counted and respected. I am so disgusted and dissapointed with them that I want nothing further to do with any of them.

Leslie123

Alcee Hastings is not going because he now realizes his mistake. He is not standing up for his constituents. He jumped on that Clinton bandwagon thinking it was going to get him somewhere. Now he has egg all over his face and he is just too chicken-s**t to go and support our nominee.

Bill in Dallas

As a FORMER lifelong Black democrat(small d),after yesterdays' supposed display of democracy(small d again),I am past livid.The elistist undermining of the core principles for what the democratic party used to stand for was a travesty and only confirmed that I will be leaving this party to the deans,kennedys,richardsons,dodds,brazilles(and your mama should whip your butt for all your disgraceful behavior),the mainstream msm,olberman and his ilk,kerrys and carters.I have NEVER voted for a Republican in my 59 years of living,but, if the Lord blesses me to reach November 4th,2008,I will gladly walk into the voting booth and cast my vote for Senator John McCain.Will not have to hold my nose to do so.That is how much I despise obama and anyone associated with him!Can't wait until November 5th when I can loudly proclaim to the anyone who will listen..."told you so."And to all of the followers of obama,they don't have caucuses in the general election so what will your excuse be then.Oh I know."It was Clintons' fault."I pray that will be correct.With all my heart and soul."Holla" democrats.I will not miss you at all!

Robert

While I am a loyal Democrat, all I can say about Congressman Hastings' decision is: Stupid is as stupid does.

Although the GOP-led Legislature made the decision to schedule our primary on January 29 in violation of both major parties' rules, there were a number of Democrats who supported the idea, both publicly and in silence.

They knew that there was a risk involved in doing so. Any child learns early in life that when you break the rules, there is a consequence to pay. That's exactly what happened in this case.

Congressman Hastings is acting like a spoiled brat who takes his ball and goes home when things don't go his way. Man Up, Alcee!

Amethyst

I am disgusted with the DNC and the decision for Florida and Michigan. HALF a vote? That's worse than no vote at all--just insulting. I'm now torn. I do NOT want to vote for Obama, as I do not support him whatsoever, but I'm afraid if I don't vote at all, it's just a vote for McCain, who I despise. If I thought a write-in would actually be counted, I'd write in Hillary's name. This country needs to stand up and enforce some REAL change--throw away the electoral college and delagates and just count the votes. Whoever gets the most, wins. Whoever gets the 2nd most is VP. And if they don't get along, too bad. Grow up and grow a set. I'm ashamed of this country.

Jeff

Alcee once again proves how irrelevant he is to the current political situation. He is just another throw back to the identity politics of the 70s and 80s to which the typical left wing extremists and Mondale wing losers who cost this party dearly for a generation. Where were all the Hillary supporters outside of Florida and Michigan decrying this alleged injustice six months ago? That's right, they were were not there.

Evy

I applaud U.S. Rep. Hastings on his courage and conviction to stand up for the rights of voters.
I was thinking exactly the same thing- how can you diminish a delegates vote that represents the will of the people by half? This is not right- the DNC Rules Committee cannot see the forest for the trees- so stuck on their rules. When rules violate the rights of people- they need to be broken. If our Civil Rights Movement taught us anything- it is exactly that.
Without the delegates of MI and FL getting full representation and reflecting the actual votes that were cast- then the Democratic Nomination cannot be seen as valid.

vanessa

This IS much bigger than Barry and Hillary, it's bigger than party platform, it was a chance to correct a wrong and the RBC got it wrong. Tsk tsk. Good luck with the GE with Barry, I'm taking my vote, along with 12 voting members of my family, and giving it to McCain. It's a protest and I, for one, don't feel a bit bad about it.

GaGirl

What courage from Representative Hastings! It makes me wonder if there will be more to follow. The committee took the easy way out and the members will "own" their decision forever. They will be forever players in this election. If it turns out well, it will be just an interesting historical event. If it does not, they will be forever held responsible for this outrageous rejection of the the principles of counting every vote and fair reflection.

michael

I feel the same way they made a big mistake im sorry but the dems have fallen once again i cant see myself voting for a man who i personally feel is lying cheating stealing this election and has no remorse at all its all about barack and nobody else but i guess the times comeing and repubs once again will rule sorry no hillary no obama ill cast my vote for mccain


hillary/mccain 08

sunshine

Thank you for this article, I admire your stamina.

So many want to condemn because you don't want to jump on the Obama bandwagon; stop and think with so many not wanting to take that ride that people don't think that he is the right democrat for the position. Who wants a president that steals delegates to win, that could have been handled better. If Senator Obama had integrity he would have refused the MI delegates; he has enough to win without them and he would be respected for that decision.

This primary has turned into a window of opportunity to see that the voters have no rights and just because you support Obama it still sends a loud message that none of us have any voting rights, spin it any way you want yesterday's event was a slap to Floridians/MI and the American people, regardless of who you support we all know right from wrong and yesterday was wrong.

Moonbeam

Why did the Dems bother to pretend to have an election? They have clearly wanted Obama as the representative and done everything to make it happen. It is laughable to think that "the people" have had anything to do with this selection. I think the majority of those who originally voted for Obama in the primaries have had an awakening and wish they could take back the vote they cast..I know I do! I certainly will not be casting a vote for him in the National Election and will jump parties if I must...I know MANY who express the same sentiment.

luvit125

Hillaryvoters4mccain.blogspot.com

Count me and all my 14 family members IN.
MOBLAMA NEVER-BRAZILLA AN COWARD DEAN THERE IS A LESSON COMING YOUR WAY. HERE'S A HINT
POTUS J. McCAIN

Alice

I cannot believe that I would hate the democratic party the way I hate the Republicans. But it is true. My family and friends are ready ti vote for McCain. Obama is a phony.

Nuff Said McGreavey

Since the 50% penalty is exactly the same penalty that the GOP also imposed on FL this year for violating GOP rules, how can they claim an advantage? I think that definitely figured into the reasoning of the RBC.

scrapiron

Who said you can't improve on the Castro, Chavez model of voting rights where all votes go to me, regardless of what you think. The democrats took the communist system to new highs. Practice makes perfect, they (Algorabge's crowd) attemped to steal a national election by not counting all Fl votes in 2000 and this time they seem to have succeeded in screwing each other. Democrats all appear to be like the members of Obambi's church. They have listened to rot for so long it in now true, in their minds. It was once called brainwashing, now its normal democrat politics. I wonder how it feels to be half a person, well having half a brain brought this on themselves. Hate is a powerful thing and thanks to the spread of BDS in the democrat party the democrats have nothing else left. It's funny, I've never hated anyone or anything in my life (68 years). I would love to see a million democrats drown or go before the firing squad as traitors to the country, but pity for or worry about their mental state isn't hate. Hate and traitorism is a trait of being a democrat.

Disappointed Democrat

Congressman Hastings thank you for your courage! I have seen you on C-Span many times, you are a true statesman and your Florida constituents are very fortunate to have you as their representative.

Purple Politics

Told you so! That's why I have left the Dem Party years ago. The DNC is a such a stupid, no sense party! They are their worst enemies. They are suckers. The Left Winger(s) wanted Obama to grab the nomination so they supported this good for nothing egomaniac, arrogant, inexperienced, first time senator in his bid. They supplied him with all the gold wrappings and trimmings! And ignored his questionable dealings and background. And now, they even "CHEAT the PEOPLE" of Florida and Michigan their votes -- to give to him. So, how "INTELLIGENT" are these DNC Party Leaders. Donna Brazile, Nancy Peloso, Howard Dean -- get off the Leadership of that Party because you do not have Leadership skills. You do not have character and conviction. Actually, you do deserve that party of suckers!

I will remain independent and WRITE IN the candidate of my choice -- the candidate of the people, HILLARY CLINTON! She remains to be the electable candidate this Fall!

Jonfk

You are the best Hastings....
It is a shame your boy Wexler is a sell-out to his entire district and the country.

You will not be re-elected.

Garble

Nice, but I think it was the 3/5ths compromise. Not 2/3

kathyk

The RNC is smarter than the DNC.
In an election that should be a sure win for Democrats, the Rebuplicans run an experienced, moderate vet who is a nice guy.
The Democrats are going to run an extremely liberal, unexperienced man with lots of skeletons in his closet.
The DNC has found the only way to lose an election that should have been a sure thing.
Come November, Dean and Brazile will surely blame everyone but themselves.

cordjones

I too admire Rep. Hastings for his courageous statement concerning the DNC 'travesty' meeting on Saturday. I have seen none of this sort of honesty coming from any other member of Congress over the past 15 months, and there have certainly been many instances in which they should have done so.

I'm very sorry to say that I will not show the kind of honor this man will have to have by continuing to fight for a strong Democratic Party and a Democratic win in the fall. I will vote only for Senator Clinton, if she wins the nomination. I could not make myself vote for a man in whom I have absolutely no faith, no trust, and of whom I have great fear.

Too many of our leaders, too many people who wanted to be our leaders but couldn't, and the mainstream media have turned this Democratic Primary into a fiasco in which they all tried to cram Barack Obama down everyone's collective throats. Well, I personally see nothing of worth in Obama that qualifies him to be President. The American people know very little about the real Obama, and the little that I've learned, I do not like.
I've seen no solutions that he has proffered to fix the many problems our country faces, and I've been really concerned about the amount of money he has acquired throughout this entire election season. I do not believe it all came through grassroots funding.
That's my opinion, be it right or wrong. I do not trust that man!

All that said, I DO trust that Hillary Clinton has the needs of our country at heart, and that she is more able, through experience and integrity, to help bring America back to its former glory and good standing in the world.

The Democratic Party has let all of us down and no longer has my loyalty. Thank you, Rep. Hastings, for doing your part to try to help some of the wrongs that have been done to the American people--especially in Florida and Michigan. It's good to know that a few of our leaders do care.

Huey

It was 3/5ths of a person, not 2/3rd. Man, how hard it must be to bribe a judge that can't do fractions.

Huey

It was 3/5ths of a person, not 2/3rd. Man, how hard it must be to bribe a judge that can't do fractions.

Huey

It was 3/5ths of a person, not 2/3rd. Man, how hard it must be to bribe a judge that can't do fractions.

Jacque James

Just made my John Macain sticker to go next to my Hillary Clinton for President sticker on my car.....If they crown no-bama on Tuesday Or Wednesday its going up...I intend to boldly drive everywhere for people to see my disdain with the Dem. party....

Betty

Saturday was an extremely sad day for me. Having been a democrat for forty years and moving to Florida early so that my husband and I would be able to vote..not only have we seen and heard for months that Hillary should drop out...now our vote meant nothing!! Never have I heard the media belittle..berate..bitched anyone the way Hillary has been. It has been a very upsetting few months and ends this way? The holier than thou DNC sees themselves has our rulers...not leaders of a political party..a political party which I no longer will be a part of. IF..the leaders had amounted to something someone would have stood up and put an end to the media asking Hillary to get out. Having endured all of the blasting and going on for the people ..shows me just how strong Hillary is. This party is making One BIG mistake and deserves to be taught a lesson. Did they forget where their money is coming from??? Did they forget who they are supposed to be representing? McCain should be a very happy man come November!

Raul

The committee meeting on Saturday had 1 purpose. How do you address a situation where the RULES that govern are not followed or ignored!!!

Any committee MUST ENFORCE it's rules or the committee becomes a non functional entity.

All the candidates AGREED not to campaign in these states. That the Republicans moved the primary date up is an excuse being used to avoid the fact that the Democratic Party in Florida WANTED to move-up the Primary Date.

I bet that if the shoe were on the other foot, HRC would not be so "INTERESTED" in having EVERY vote counted. When she speaks, she is clearly working off of her "Talking Points" based on what the "Polls" tell her to talk about. Conversely, B.O. speaks "Knowing" what the needs of this great nation are.

And another thing, don't believe the pundits or her staff. Just remember... figures lie and liers figure.

So, if she truly believes that she has the delegates ears and has won the popular vote (no matter how you do the math)... I want to see the tens of thousands of supporters at her last and final rallies, not the measly couple hundred, if at that.

Believe your eyes people, not the BS you are being force fed in order to select the BEST candidate that McCain can win against come November.

America is being driven to ruins by those in power. Instead of talking about REAL issues affecting Americans, the National media and Pundits along with HRC staff would rather squabble over a non issue such as a priest giving a Sunday sermon versus Education, Health Care, Energy, the War etc. etc. etc.

Wake up people and smell the coffee. Barak Obama is the ONLY person who WILL build support from the bottom up. From the American People to the White House. Not this trickle down economics where Special Interest groups decide and, if we're lucky, may trickle down to the American Taxpayer.

This President and his adminstration will be the "Enron" of the Presidency... just watch.

Raul

The committee meeting on Saturday had 1 purpose. How do you address a situation where the RULES that govern are not followed or ignored!!!

Any committee MUST ENFORCE it's rules or the committee becomes a non functional entity.

All the candidates AGREED not to campaign in these states. That the Republicans moved the primary date up is an excuse being used to avoid the fact that the Democratic Party in Florida WANTED to move-up the Primary Date.

I bet that if the shoe were on the other foot, HRC would not be so "INTERESTED" in having EVERY vote counted. When she speaks, she is clearly working off of her "Talking Points" based on what the "Polls" tell her to talk about. Conversely, B.O. speaks "Knowing" what the needs of this great nation are.

And another thing, don't believe the pundits or her staff. Just remember... figures lie and liers figure.

So, if she truly believes that she has the delegates ears and has won the popular vote (no matter how you do the math)... I want to see the tens of thousands of supporters at her last and final rallies, not the measly couple hundred, if at that.

Believe your eyes people, not the BS you are being force fed in order to select the BEST candidate that McCain can win against come November.

America is being driven to ruins by those in power. Instead of talking about REAL issues affecting Americans, the National media and Pundits along with HRC staff would rather squabble over a non issue such as a priest giving a Sunday sermon versus Education, Health Care, Energy, the War etc. etc. etc.

Wake up people and smell the coffee. Barak Obama is the ONLY person who WILL build support from the bottom up. From the American People to the White House. Not this trickle down economics where Special Interest groups decide and, if we're lucky, may trickle down to the American Taxpayer.

This President and his adminstration will be the "Enron" of the Presidency... just watch.

Raul

The committee meeting on Saturday had 1 purpose. How do you address a situation where the RULES that govern are not followed or ignored!!!

Any committee MUST ENFORCE it's rules or the committee becomes a non functional entity.

All the candidates AGREED not to campaign in these states. That the Republicans moved the primary date up is an excuse being used to avoid the fact that the Democratic Party in Florida WANTED to move-up the Primary Date.

I bet that if the shoe were on the other foot, HRC would not be so "INTERESTED" in having EVERY vote counted. When she speaks, she is clearly working off of her "Talking Points" based on what the "Polls" tell her to talk about. Conversely, B.O. speaks "Knowing" what the needs of this great nation are.

And another thing, don't believe the pundits or her staff. Just remember... figures lie and liers figure.

So, if she truly believes that she has the delegates ears and has won the popular vote (no matter how you do the math)... I want to see the tens of thousands of supporters at her last and final rallies, not the measly couple hundred, if at that.

Believe your eyes people, not the BS you are being force fed in order to select the BEST candidate that McCain can win against come November.

America is being driven to ruins by those in power. Instead of talking about REAL issues affecting Americans, the National media and Pundits along with HRC staff would rather squabble over a non issue such as a priest giving a Sunday sermon versus Education, Health Care, Energy, the War etc. etc. etc.

Wake up people and smell the coffee. Barak Obama is the ONLY person who WILL build support from the bottom up. From the American People to the White House. Not this trickle down economics where Special Interest groups decide and, if we're lucky, may trickle down to the American Taxpayer.

This President and his adminstration will be the "Enron" of the Presidency... just watch.

Tom Sutter

Rules should have been followed, otherwise you would have every state pushing to be first and the contests would get earlier and earlier each election cycle. Yes, the primary system is broken, but we ALL must follow the rules until it can be fixed (and yes, a rotating regional primary appears to be the only fair thing to do).

I am a MIchigan voter, and was for a time on the fence between supporting Clinton or Obama. But at present, the Clinton camp and their supporters are are bent on pressing their selfish agenda to the detriment of the party - and our country. They do this without any consideration of the election rules, or the feelings - and votes - of MANY other Americans out there. They act like they are having a landslide victory taken away from them. And to think that they would actually threaten to support McCain in the general election if their candidate is not nominated? Do they really think a McCain presidency would be better for this country than an Obama presidency?

Get real people! The nominating contest is all but over. Get over it and get behind the nominee - Barak Obama (and he WILL BE the nominee). Do it now, so Obama can concentrate on eviscerating McCain in the general election contest. Given McCain's positions on most issues (basically a Bush prototype), this should be easy, but the clinton folks - who just can't seem to let the dead horse lie - just won't let them.

C'mon fellow dems. We have a wonderful tradition of managing to lose important elections. Let's get over the petty immaturity and rise up to crush that smarmy little warmonger McCain in November!

One last thing: Harold Ickes should be ashamed of himself for looking like a complete pansy in a national forum. Anybody watching that and thinking of voting democratic may just change their minds after witnessing that. Be a man - own up to the fact that your candidate lost FAIRLY AND SQUARELY, and get behind the nominee. The way I look at it is that at least 40% of the people who voted in the Michigan primary didn't want Clinton (they voted uncommitted). Additionally, there are LOTS of people - like myself - who did not vote in the primary because we thought we really had one choice - to vote for Clinton. I wasn't about to go out in the snow to vote uncommitted. Now I know I should feel disenfranchised, but I don't. I am thinking now that if my state had just followed the election rules LIKE 48 OTHER STATES IN THE UNION they wouldn't be in this mess. I believe the solution proffered by the DNC is compeletely fair - ie. you don't want to alienate voters in either state, but y'know they do have to follow the rules.

So, long story short, GET OVER IT and lets move on to crushing McCain and the republicans in the fall. The republicans have done such a good job of trying to ensure a "permanent republican minority" for the last two years, that the dems should have no problem winning.

Mr. Spooge

Alcee needs to relearn his history. His claim that his ancestors were counted as 2/3 of a person is incorrect. The actual fraction was 3/5. Talk about giving him too much credit! ;-)

Bryce

I have a hard time with people who say Hillary or McCain to begin with, but those that are saying they're going to vote for McCain because the DNC is only giving Florida half a vote are just stupid. You do realize that the Republicans punished Florida by taking half their votes away as well, right?

C'mon guys, wake up.

You might've had a complaint if they chose not to seat ANY delegates because you broke the rules, but the 50% reduction is a mandatory one in the rule that was violated. Your state legislature knew it would happen when they decided to move your votes forward. If you have a problem with the reduction, please take it up with your state representatives and let them know just how you feel about their decision to move up the election.

vickey

Everyone of you Hillary people are to be ashame of how you are carry on. You all act like you are some kind of stupid nuts. All you are doing is hurting yourself. a bunch of OLD Ass women asking fruit cakes. If you are going to leave the party than leave. You were not going to vote for Obama anyway. So GOOD Bye.

Ann Wells

Thank you, Alcee Hastings for having the integrity to stand up for time honored principles. People like you have been seriously lacking in this farce of democracy some want to call a campaign. I applaud you. Integrity always, ALWAYS wins in the end. I'm sure you're being maligned by many-turn a deaf ear. When the dust settles and it will, you'll still be a respected statesman. Those who have comprimised their integrity-we won't even remember their names.

Thanks again for a breath of fresh air!!

bill

"Everyone of you Hillary people are to be ashame of how you are carry on. You all act like you are some kind of stupid nuts. All you are doing is hurting yourself."

vickey - u should run for office - with an intellect like that you would fit right in with the current democratic leadership.

the dnc just told florida democrats that their vote doesn't count and you act like nothing happened? this is how people like bush get elected - the majority of the voting public in this country is brain dead

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